On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:37:30 -0000 (UTC), TonyAs is the case with global warming and the imaginary climate emergency.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://waikanaewatch.org/2024/07/13/consumerism-and-climate-change/#comments >>Good to see there are more and more vocal intelligent folk.
Again that seems to be largely opinionIrrelevant.
- no actual evidence, but the
comment from Lew should cause some to think a little further:
"If New Zealand disappeared below the waves tomorrow we would never be
missed so far as our effect on global warming is concerned."
So just imagine what could happen should "Clean Green New Zealand" (toOff topic, non sequitur.
use a past political slogan) not meet the level of emissions targets
that a National-led Government put us into all those years ago.
Would a fickle population somewhere else around the world (UK? Europe?Pure conjecture and irrelevant therefore.
Asia?) decide that they no longer wish to buy frozen meat, or dairy
products - and instead concentrate on supporting their own food
producers? Is that in the best interests of our farmers?
https://waikanaewatch.org/2024/07/13/consumerism-and-climate-change/#comments >Good to see there are more and more vocal intelligent folk.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:37:30 -0000 (UTC), TonyAs is the case with global warming and the imaginary climate emergency. >>Again that seems to be largely opinion
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Good to see there are more and more vocal intelligent folk.https://waikanaewatch.org/2024/07/13/consumerism-and-climate-change/#comments
- no actual evidence, but theIrrelevant.
comment from Lew should cause some to think a little further:
"If New Zealand disappeared below the waves tomorrow we would never be >>missed so far as our effect on global warming is concerned."
Off topic, non sequitur.
So just imagine what could happen should "Clean Green New Zealand" (to
use a past political slogan) not meet the level of emissions targets
that a National-led Government put us into all those years ago.
Pure conjecture and irrelevant therefore.
Would a fickle population somewhere else around the world (UK? Europe? >>Asia?) decide that they no longer wish to buy frozen meat, or dairy >>products - and instead concentrate on supporting their own food
producers? Is that in the best interests of our farmers?
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 06:40:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyMore completelly off topic rubbish.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:37:30 -0000 (UTC), TonyAs is the case with global warming and the imaginary climate emergency. >>>Again that seems to be largely opinion
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Good to see there are more and more vocal intelligent folk.https://waikanaewatch.org/2024/07/13/consumerism-and-climate-change/#comments
- no actual evidence, but theIrrelevant.
comment from Lew should cause some to think a little further:
"If New Zealand disappeared below the waves tomorrow we would never be >>>missed so far as our effect on global warming is concerned."
Off topic, non sequitur.
So just imagine what could happen should "Clean Green New Zealand" (to >>>use a past political slogan) not meet the level of emissions targets
that a National-led Government put us into all those years ago.
Pure conjecture and irrelevant therefore.
Would a fickle population somewhere else around the world (UK? Europe? >>>Asia?) decide that they no longer wish to buy frozen meat, or dairy >>>products - and instead concentrate on supporting their own food >>>producers? Is that in the best interests of our farmers?
Since writing that I have read this: >https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/learning-from-brexit
which ends with:
"A new area of regulatory alignment is likely to be about carbon
emissions. The EU is already moving towards requiring those who export >products to it from the ‘heavy’ industries – such as aluminium,
cement, chemicals and steel – to meet the EU’s domestic carbon
emission standards.
They have not yet begun addressing farm emissions of methane and
nitrous oxide. But they will. Our farm sector needs to be preparing
for that. Rather than the government imposing an emissions regime, it
might tell them:
‘Over to you. If you don’t get on with developing your own strategy
you will be one day be excluded from some of your valuable export
markets. The government’s advice is to get onto it as fast as you can. >Biological change takes time. Inconvenient regulatory can change a lot >faster. The government will give you all the reasonable support you >require.’"
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 09:15:21 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou made the threat, you justify it. Geez you are thick.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:What evidence do you have that the threat you describe is empty?
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 06:40:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyMore completelly off topic rubbish.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:37:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:As is the case with global warming and the imaginary climate emergency. >>>>>Again that seems to be largely opinion
Good to see there are more and more vocal intelligent folk.https://waikanaewatch.org/2024/07/13/consumerism-and-climate-change/#comments
- no actual evidence, but theOff topic, non sequitur.
comment from Lew should cause some to think a little further:
"If New Zealand disappeared below the waves tomorrow we would never be >>>>>missed so far as our effect on global warming is concerned." >>>>Irrelevant.
So just imagine what could happen should "Clean Green New Zealand" (to >>>>>use a past political slogan) not meet the level of emissions targets >>>>>that a National-led Government put us into all those years ago.
Pure conjecture and irrelevant therefore.
Would a fickle population somewhere else around the world (UK? Europe? >>>>>Asia?) decide that they no longer wish to buy frozen meat, or dairy >>>>>products - and instead concentrate on supporting their own food >>>>>producers? Is that in the best interests of our farmers?
Since writing that I have read this: >>>https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/learning-from-brexit
which ends with:
"A new area of regulatory alignment is likely to be about carbon >>>emissions. The EU is already moving towards requiring those who export >>>products to it from the ‘heavy’ industries – such as aluminium,
cement, chemicals and steel – to meet the EU’s domestic carbon
emission standards.
They have not yet begun addressing farm emissions of methane and
nitrous oxide. But they will. Our farm sector needs to be preparing
for that. Rather than the government imposing an emissions regime, it >>>might tell them:
‘Over to you. If you don’t get on with developing your own strategy
you will be one day be excluded from some of your valuable export >>>markets. The government’s advice is to get onto it as fast as you can. >>>Biological change takes time. Inconvenient regulatory can change a lot >>>faster. The government will give you all the reasonable support you >>>require.’"
The topic is that there is no climate emergency and no reason for us to >>destroy
our farming for a non-existent threat.
If you want to continue to change the topic to empty threats from other >>countries please start your own thread.
In yoiur dreams dumbo.This thread is way beyond your ability to follow.From the evidence that description fits you better, Tony . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:What evidence do you have that the threat you describe is empty?
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 06:40:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyMore completelly off topic rubbish.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:37:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:As is the case with global warming and the imaginary climate emergency. >>>>Again that seems to be largely opinion
Good to see there are more and more vocal intelligent folk.https://waikanaewatch.org/2024/07/13/consumerism-and-climate-change/#comments
- no actual evidence, but theIrrelevant.
comment from Lew should cause some to think a little further:
"If New Zealand disappeared below the waves tomorrow we would never be >>>>missed so far as our effect on global warming is concerned."
Off topic, non sequitur.
So just imagine what could happen should "Clean Green New Zealand" (to >>>>use a past political slogan) not meet the level of emissions targets >>>>that a National-led Government put us into all those years ago.
Pure conjecture and irrelevant therefore.
Would a fickle population somewhere else around the world (UK? Europe? >>>>Asia?) decide that they no longer wish to buy frozen meat, or dairy >>>>products - and instead concentrate on supporting their own food >>>>producers? Is that in the best interests of our farmers?
Since writing that I have read this: >>https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/learning-from-brexit
which ends with:
"A new area of regulatory alignment is likely to be about carbon
emissions. The EU is already moving towards requiring those who export >>products to it from the ‘heavy’ industries – such as aluminium,
cement, chemicals and steel – to meet the EU’s domestic carbon
emission standards.
They have not yet begun addressing farm emissions of methane and
nitrous oxide. But they will. Our farm sector needs to be preparing
for that. Rather than the government imposing an emissions regime, it
might tell them:
‘Over to you. If you don’t get on with developing your own strategy
you will be one day be excluded from some of your valuable export
markets. The government’s advice is to get onto it as fast as you can. >>Biological change takes time. Inconvenient regulatory can change a lot >>faster. The government will give you all the reasonable support you >>require.’"
The topic is that there is no climate emergency and no reason for us to destroy
our farming for a non-existent threat.
If you want to continue to change the topic to empty threats from other >countries please start your own thread.
This thread is way beyond your ability to follow.From the evidence that description fits you better, Tony . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I made no threat; I reported a potential threat articulated in an
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 09:15:21 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou made the threat, you justify it. Geez you are thick.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:What evidence do you have that the threat you describe is empty?
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 06:40:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:More completelly off topic rubbish.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:37:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:As is the case with global warming and the imaginary climate emergency. >>>>>>Again that seems to be largely opinion
Good to see there are more and more vocal intelligent folk.https://waikanaewatch.org/2024/07/13/consumerism-and-climate-change/#comments
- no actual evidence, but theOff topic, non sequitur.
comment from Lew should cause some to think a little further:
"If New Zealand disappeared below the waves tomorrow we would never be >>>>>>missed so far as our effect on global warming is concerned." >>>>>Irrelevant.
So just imagine what could happen should "Clean Green New Zealand" (to >>>>>>use a past political slogan) not meet the level of emissions targets >>>>>>that a National-led Government put us into all those years ago.
Pure conjecture and irrelevant therefore.
Would a fickle population somewhere else around the world (UK? Europe? >>>>>>Asia?) decide that they no longer wish to buy frozen meat, or dairy >>>>>>products - and instead concentrate on supporting their own food >>>>>>producers? Is that in the best interests of our farmers?
Since writing that I have read this: >>>>https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/learning-from-brexit
which ends with:
"A new area of regulatory alignment is likely to be about carbon >>>>emissions. The EU is already moving towards requiring those who export >>>>products to it from the ‘heavy’ industries – such as aluminium,
cement, chemicals and steel – to meet the EU’s domestic carbon
emission standards.
They have not yet begun addressing farm emissions of methane and >>>>nitrous oxide. But they will. Our farm sector needs to be preparing
for that. Rather than the government imposing an emissions regime, it >>>>might tell them:
‘Over to you. If you don’t get on with developing your own strategy >>>>you will be one day be excluded from some of your valuable export >>>>markets. The government’s advice is to get onto it as fast as you can. >>>>Biological change takes time. Inconvenient regulatory can change a lot >>>>faster. The government will give you all the reasonable support you >>>>require.’"
The topic is that there is no climate emergency and no reason for us to >>>destroy
our farming for a non-existent threat.
If you want to continue to change the topic to empty threats from other >>>countries please start your own thread.
In yoiur dreams dumbo.
This thread is way beyond your ability to follow.From the evidence that description fits you better, Tony . . .
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 00:02:19 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou posted the threat. Justify it. You really are getting worse.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I made no threat; I reported a potential threat articulated in an
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 09:15:21 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou made the threat, you justify it. Geez you are thick.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:What evidence do you have that the threat you describe is empty?
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 06:40:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:More completelly off topic rubbish.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:37:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:As is the case with global warming and the imaginary climate emergency. >>>>>>>Again that seems to be largely opinion
Good to see there are more and more vocal intelligent folk.https://waikanaewatch.org/2024/07/13/consumerism-and-climate-change/#comments
- no actual evidence, but thePure conjecture and irrelevant therefore.
comment from Lew should cause some to think a little further:
"If New Zealand disappeared below the waves tomorrow we would never be >>>>>>>missed so far as our effect on global warming is concerned." >>>>>>Irrelevant.
So just imagine what could happen should "Clean Green New Zealand" (to >>>>>>>use a past political slogan) not meet the level of emissions targets >>>>>>>that a National-led Government put us into all those years ago. >>>>>>Off topic, non sequitur.
Would a fickle population somewhere else around the world (UK? Europe? >>>>>>>Asia?) decide that they no longer wish to buy frozen meat, or dairy >>>>>>>products - and instead concentrate on supporting their own food >>>>>>>producers? Is that in the best interests of our farmers?
Since writing that I have read this: >>>>>https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/learning-from-brexit
which ends with:
"A new area of regulatory alignment is likely to be about carbon >>>>>emissions. The EU is already moving towards requiring those who export >>>>>products to it from the ‘heavy’ industries – such as aluminium, >>>>>cement, chemicals and steel – to meet the EU’s domestic carbon >>>>>emission standards.
They have not yet begun addressing farm emissions of methane and >>>>>nitrous oxide. But they will. Our farm sector needs to be preparing >>>>>for that. Rather than the government imposing an emissions regime, it >>>>>might tell them:
‘Over to you. If you don’t get on with developing your own strategy >>>>>you will be one day be excluded from some of your valuable export >>>>>markets. The government’s advice is to get onto it as fast as you can. >>>>>Biological change takes time. Inconvenient regulatory can change a lot >>>>>faster. The government will give you all the reasonable support you >>>>>require.’"
The topic is that there is no climate emergency and no reason for us to >>>>destroy
our farming for a non-existent threat.
If you want to continue to change the topic to empty threats from other >>>>countries please start your own thread.
article - see the link above. If you do not believe that the potential
threat is real then justify that opinion.
In yoiur dreams dumbo.
This thread is way beyond your ability to follow.From the evidence that description fits you better, Tony . . .
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 09:15:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:What evidence do you have that the threat you describe is empty?
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 06:40:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyMore completelly off topic rubbish.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:37:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:As is the case with global warming and the imaginary climate emergency. >>>>>Again that seems to be largely opinion
Good to see there are more and more vocal intelligent folk.https://waikanaewatch.org/2024/07/13/consumerism-and-climate-change/#comments
- no actual evidence, but theOff topic, non sequitur.
comment from Lew should cause some to think a little further:
"If New Zealand disappeared below the waves tomorrow we would never be >>>>>missed so far as our effect on global warming is concerned." >>>>Irrelevant.
So just imagine what could happen should "Clean Green New Zealand" (to >>>>>use a past political slogan) not meet the level of emissions targets >>>>>that a National-led Government put us into all those years ago.
Pure conjecture and irrelevant therefore.
Would a fickle population somewhere else around the world (UK? Europe? >>>>>Asia?) decide that they no longer wish to buy frozen meat, or dairy >>>>>products - and instead concentrate on supporting their own food >>>>>producers? Is that in the best interests of our farmers?
Since writing that I have read this: >>>https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/learning-from-brexit
which ends with:
"A new area of regulatory alignment is likely to be about carbon >>>emissions. The EU is already moving towards requiring those who export >>>products to it from the ‘heavy’ industries – such as aluminium, >>>cement, chemicals and steel – to meet the EU’s domestic carbon
emission standards.
They have not yet begun addressing farm emissions of methane and
nitrous oxide. But they will. Our farm sector needs to be preparing
for that. Rather than the government imposing an emissions regime, it >>>might tell them:
‘Over to you. If you don’t get on with developing your own strategy >>>you will be one day be excluded from some of your valuable export >>>markets. The government’s advice is to get onto it as fast as you can. >>>Biological change takes time. Inconvenient regulatory can change a lot >>>faster. The government will give you all the reasonable support you >>>require.’"
The topic is that there is no climate emergency and no reason for us to destroy
our farming for a non-existent threat.
If you want to continue to change the topic to empty threats from other >>countries please start your own thread.
This thread is way beyond your ability to follow.From the evidence that description fits you better, Tony . . .
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