https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
ScottW
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
On 11/29/22 5:46 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.Cite please the US green airplane proposal you disagree with.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
ScottW
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:50:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 11/29/22 5:46 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket. >> Cite please the US green airplane proposal you disagree with.
You think there might be an advantage by having our transportation industry all running on a common fuel?
On 11/30/22 11:52 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:50:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 11/29/22 5:46 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/Cite please the US green airplane proposal you disagree with.
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
You think there might be an advantage by having our transportation industry all running on a common fuel?Is that what Biden is proposing?
The WH: "In the future, electric and hydrogen-powered aviation may
unlock affordable and convenient local and regional travel. But for today’s long-distance travel, we need bold partnerships to spur the deployment of billions of gallons of sustainable aviation fuels quickly.
That is why President Biden proposed a Sustainable Aviation Fuel tax
credit as part of the Build Back Better Agenda. This credit will help
cut costs and rapidly scale domestic production of sustainable fuels for aviation."
LoL....credits paid by taxpayers cut costs.
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:29:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 11/30/22 11:52 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:50:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:Is that what Biden is proposing?
On 11/29/22 5:46 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/Cite please the US green airplane proposal you disagree with.
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
You think there might be an advantage by having our transportation industry all running on a common fuel?
The WH: "In the future, electric and hydrogen-powered aviation may
unlock affordable and convenient local and regional travel. But for
today’s long-distance travel, we need bold partnerships to spur the
deployment of billions of gallons of sustainable aviation fuels quickly.
That is why President Biden proposed a Sustainable Aviation Fuel tax
credit as part of the Build Back Better Agenda. This credit will help
cut costs and rapidly scale domestic production of sustainable fuels for
aviation."
LoL....credits paid by taxpayers cut costs.
On 11/30/22 1:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:29:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 11/30/22 11:52 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:50:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:Is that what Biden is proposing?
On 11/29/22 5:46 PM, ScottW wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/Cite please the US green airplane proposal you disagree with.
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
You think there might be an advantage by having our transportation industry all running on a common fuel?
The WH: "In the future, electric and hydrogen-powered aviation may
unlock affordable and convenient local and regional travel. But for
today’s long-distance travel, we need bold partnerships to spur the
deployment of billions of gallons of sustainable aviation fuels quickly. >>
That is why President Biden proposed a Sustainable Aviation Fuel tax
credit as part of the Build Back Better Agenda. This credit will help
cut costs and rapidly scale domestic production of sustainable fuels for >> aviation."
LoL....credits paid by taxpayers cut costs.Cool. You took two words out of context to evade the question. While the armchair economist you are is correct to point out the costs are moved
from one place to another,
a real economist would provide the context
that the credit would be substantial to the recipients while the cost to
the individual taxpayer so small as to be unnoticeable.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential
to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet fuel but with a
fraction of its carbon footprint, giving airlines solid footing for decoupling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
Where did Biden propose using a common fuel for transportation?
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:22:47 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 11/30/22 1:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:29:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:Cool. You took two words out of context to evade the question. While the
On 11/30/22 11:52 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:50:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote: >>>>>> On 11/29/22 5:46 PM, ScottW wrote:Is that what Biden is proposing?
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/Cite please the US green airplane proposal you disagree with.
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
You think there might be an advantage by having our transportation industry all running on a common fuel?
The WH: "In the future, electric and hydrogen-powered aviation may
unlock affordable and convenient local and regional travel. But for
today’s long-distance travel, we need bold partnerships to spur the
deployment of billions of gallons of sustainable aviation fuels quickly. >>>>
That is why President Biden proposed a Sustainable Aviation Fuel tax
credit as part of the Build Back Better Agenda. This credit will help
cut costs and rapidly scale domestic production of sustainable fuels for >>>> aviation."
LoL....credits paid by taxpayers cut costs.
armchair economist you are is correct to point out the costs are moved
from one place to another,
So costs aren't cut.....they are in fact increased.
a real economist would provide the context
that the credit would be substantial to the recipients while the cost to
the individual taxpayer so small as to be unnoticeable.
Your tax bill may be unnoticeable....but most real taxpayers do
notice their tax bills.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential
to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet fuel but with a
fraction of its carbon footprint, giving airlines solid footing for
decoupling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
Where did Biden propose using a common fuel for transportation?
duh....
On 12/1/22 10:13 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:22:47 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 11/30/22 1:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:29:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote: >>>> On 11/30/22 11:52 AM, ScottW wrote:Cool. You took two words out of context to evade the question. While the >> armchair economist you are is correct to point out the costs are moved
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:50:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote: >>>>>> On 11/29/22 5:46 PM, ScottW wrote:Is that what Biden is proposing?
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/Cite please the US green airplane proposal you disagree with.
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
You think there might be an advantage by having our transportation industry all running on a common fuel?
The WH: "In the future, electric and hydrogen-powered aviation may
unlock affordable and convenient local and regional travel. But for >>>> today’s long-distance travel, we need bold partnerships to spur the >>>> deployment of billions of gallons of sustainable aviation fuels quickly.
That is why President Biden proposed a Sustainable Aviation Fuel tax >>>> credit as part of the Build Back Better Agenda. This credit will help >>>> cut costs and rapidly scale domestic production of sustainable fuels for
aviation."
LoL....credits paid by taxpayers cut costs.
from one place to another,
So costs aren't cut.....they are in fact increased.Spread it out over a hundred million or two and it's imperceptible.
a real economist would provide the context
that the credit would be substantial to the recipients while the cost to >> the individual taxpayer so small as to be unnoticeable.
Your tax bill may be unnoticeable....but most real taxpayers doThat fraction of a cent will not be a burden.
notice their tax bills.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential >> to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet fuel but with a
fraction of its carbon footprint, giving airlines solid footing for
decoupling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
Where did Biden propose using a common fuel for transportation?
duh....Is there anything more "common" than hydrogen?
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:06:42 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/1/22 10:13 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:22:47 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:Spread it out over a hundred million or two and it's imperceptible.
On 11/30/22 1:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:29:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote: >>>>>> On 11/30/22 11:52 AM, ScottW wrote:Cool. You took two words out of context to evade the question. While the >>>> armchair economist you are is correct to point out the costs are moved >>>> from one place to another,
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:50:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/29/22 5:46 PM, ScottW wrote:Is that what Biden is proposing?
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/Cite please the US green airplane proposal you disagree with.
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
You think there might be an advantage by having our transportation industry all running on a common fuel?
The WH: "In the future, electric and hydrogen-powered aviation may >>>>>> unlock affordable and convenient local and regional travel. But for >>>>>> today’s long-distance travel, we need bold partnerships to spur the >>>>>> deployment of billions of gallons of sustainable aviation fuels quickly. >>>>>>
That is why President Biden proposed a Sustainable Aviation Fuel tax >>>>>> credit as part of the Build Back Better Agenda. This credit will help >>>>>> cut costs and rapidly scale domestic production of sustainable fuels for >>>>>> aviation."
LoL....credits paid by taxpayers cut costs.
So costs aren't cut.....they are in fact increased.
That fraction of a cent will not be a burden.a real economist would provide the context
that the credit would be substantial to the recipients while the cost to >>>> the individual taxpayer so small as to be unnoticeable.
Your tax bill may be unnoticeable....but most real taxpayers do
notice their tax bills.
Yet a pile of straw can break a donkey's back.
Is there anything more "common" than hydrogen?https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential >>>> to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet fuel but with a
fraction of its carbon footprint, giving airlines solid footing for
decoupling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
Where did Biden propose using a common fuel for transportation?
duh....
Do you like being insulted for stupidity?
On 12/1/22 11:14 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:06:42 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/1/22 10:13 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:22:47 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:Spread it out over a hundred million or two and it's imperceptible.
On 11/30/22 1:17 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:29:45 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote: >>>>>> On 11/30/22 11:52 AM, ScottW wrote:Cool. You took two words out of context to evade the question. While the
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:50:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/29/22 5:46 PM, ScottW wrote:Is that what Biden is proposing?
You think there might be an advantage by having our transportation industry all running on a common fuel?https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rolls-royce-successfully-tests-hydrogen-powered-jet-engine-2022-11-28/Cite please the US green airplane proposal you disagree with. >>>>>>>
I'm ever more convinced that Joe's green energy egg is in the wrong basket.
The WH: "In the future, electric and hydrogen-powered aviation may >>>>>> unlock affordable and convenient local and regional travel. But for >>>>>> today’s long-distance travel, we need bold partnerships to spur the >>>>>> deployment of billions of gallons of sustainable aviation fuels quickly.
That is why President Biden proposed a Sustainable Aviation Fuel tax >>>>>> credit as part of the Build Back Better Agenda. This credit will help >>>>>> cut costs and rapidly scale domestic production of sustainable fuels for
aviation."
LoL....credits paid by taxpayers cut costs.
armchair economist you are is correct to point out the costs are moved >>>> from one place to another,
So costs aren't cut.....they are in fact increased.
That fraction of a cent will not be a burden.a real economist would provide the context
that the credit would be substantial to the recipients while the cost to
the individual taxpayer so small as to be unnoticeable.
Your tax bill may be unnoticeable....but most real taxpayers do
notice their tax bills.
Yet a pile of straw can break a donkey's back.And a virus can bring the world to a stop. So? BTW, the idiom is about camels.
Is there anything more "common" than hydrogen?https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential >>>> to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet fuel but with a
fraction of its carbon footprint, giving airlines solid footing for >>>> decoupling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
Where did Biden propose using a common fuel for transportation?
duh....
Do you like being insulted for stupidity?Less than you like evading questions.
I'll stop wasting my time.
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/1/22 11:14 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:06:42 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
Less than you like evading questions.Is there anything more "common" than hydrogen?https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential >>>>>> to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet fuel but with a
fraction of its carbon footprint, giving airlines solid footing for >>>>>> decoupling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
Where did Biden propose using a common fuel for transportation?
duh....
Do you like being insulted for stupidity?
Perhaps you misunderstood the meaning of common...
as in same for cars, trucks, trains.
If not, I'll stop wasting my time.
On 12/1/22 11:37 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/1/22 11:14 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:06:42 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
Less than you like evading questions.Is there anything more "common" than hydrogen?https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels >>>>>>
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential
to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet fuel but with a >>>>>> fraction of its carbon footprint, giving airlines solid footing for >>>>>> decoupling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
Where did Biden propose using a common fuel for transportation?
duh....
Do you like being insulted for stupidity?
Perhaps you misunderstood the meaning of common...
as in same for cars, trucks, trains.
If not, I'll stop wasting my time.Diesel, gasoline, ethanol, jet fuel, LPG, biodiesel, flex fuel, etc.
Which of those does Biden think should be the only one?
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 1:27:52 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/1/22 11:37 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:Diesel, gasoline, ethanol, jet fuel, LPG, biodiesel, flex fuel, etc.
On 12/1/22 11:14 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:06:42 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
Less than you like evading questions.Is there anything more "common" than hydrogen?https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels >>>>>>>>duh....
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential
to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet fuel but with a >>>>>>>> fraction of its carbon footprint, giving airlines solid footing for >>>>>>>> decoupling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
Where did Biden propose using a common fuel for transportation? >>>>>>>
Do you like being insulted for stupidity?
Perhaps you misunderstood the meaning of common...
as in same for cars, trucks, trains.
If not, I'll stop wasting my time.
Which of those does Biden think should be the only one?
You do understand we're looking forward to retooling the entire energy industry...or do you?
From this scatterbrained response it would appear you're not.....or you really have
no consideration of how this might be done the most efficiently at the lowest cost with
the least disruption.
On 12/1/22 6:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 1:27:52 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/1/22 11:37 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:Diesel, gasoline, ethanol, jet fuel, LPG, biodiesel, flex fuel, etc.
On 12/1/22 11:14 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:06:42 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
Less than you like evading questions.Is there anything more "common" than hydrogen?https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels >>>>>>>>duh....
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential
to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet fuel but with a >>>>>>>> fraction of its carbon footprint, giving airlines solid footing for >>>>>>>> decoupling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
Where did Biden propose using a common fuel for transportation? >>>>>>>
Do you like being insulted for stupidity?
Perhaps you misunderstood the meaning of common...
as in same for cars, trucks, trains.
If not, I'll stop wasting my time.
Which of those does Biden think should be the only one?
You do understand we're looking forward to retooling the entire energy industry...or do you?Better get started.
From this scatterbrained response it would appear you're not.....or you really haveThat's a different subject. Seems like SAF, as proposed by Biden, would
no consideration of how this might be done the most efficiently at the lowest cost with
the least disruption.
be the least disruptive during the transition to green energy.
On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:17:15 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:
On 12/1/22 6:30 PM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 1:27:52 PM UTC-8, MINe109
wrote:
On 12/1/22 11:37 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-8, MINe109
wrote:
On 12/1/22 11:14 AM, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:06:42 AM UTC-8,
MINe109 wrote:
https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels >>>>>>>>>>
"SAF made from renewable biomass and waste resources have the potential >>>>>>>>>> to deliver the performance of petroleum-based jet
fuel but with a fraction of its carbon footprint,
giving airlines solid footing for decoupling
greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from flight."
That's a different subject. Seems like SAF, as proposed by Biden,
would be the least disruptive during the transition to green
energy.
Oh yeah....this is going to so cheap and easy to implement.
An estimated 1 billion dry tons of biomass can be collected
sustainably each year in the United States, enough to produce 50–60
billion gallons of low-carbon biofuels. These resources include:
Corn grain Oil seeds Algae Other fats, oils, and greases Agricultural residues Forestry residues Wood mill waste Municipal solid waste
streams Wet wastes (manures, wastewater treatment sludge) Dedicated
energy crops.
I look forward to your new and so much more important job than
anything you've done before.
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