Me neither....until now.

Turns out it's the tip of the spear used to pierce the heart of the constitution and eliminate our first amendment right to free speech.

Here's a snip of Tucker's monologue last night outlining what's been revealed in the twitter dump.

On October 29, 2020, for example, an official with the Washington Secretary of State's office wrote to CISA, quote, "I wanted to flag two tweets with possible misinformation about the election."

So one of the offending tweets that this political official in Washington state was upset about was a reference to an election dispute in Washington State's 2004 gubernatorial election, which played out in the courts. And ultimately Democrats won that
court battle.

The tweet read, "Washington State in 2004 judges ignored the real count and rewarded the Democrats. Another tweet from the same account read simply, "Ballots can appear whenever from whomever." Now, you could agree or disagree with those tweets. They
seem true. But in any case, they're opinions, they're a political take. And you see tweets like that all the time on Twitter because this is a free country or was.

But what happened next is shocking and it's amazing that anyone would defend it. The federal government shut down those opinions. Within minutes, CISA flagged the tweets to several DHS accounts. These are people with guns. Then CISA sent the report
directly to Twitter. "Please see the report below from Washington," CISA wrote. And the tweets, of course, were censored. The government got a random Twitter user with a small following shut down because they didn't like his or her views on the 2004
election in Washington State because they criticized Democrats. The government.

This is not a close call. This is a violation of the First Amendment to the Bill of Rights, to the centerpiece of our Constitution. And it's happening constantly. States reported posts they didn't like and CISA, an arm of DHS, guys with guns, got Twitter
to censor it. Kentucky's secretary of state did this all, all the time. The documents show that. So did Colorado's. In fact, Colorado reported several political parody accounts to DHS, which then alerted Twitter, and all of them were pulled off.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-this-how-system-supposed-work

Just as damning....if you google CISA you won't find a peep on the above news until page 4.

ScottW

ScottW

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I forgot to mention....CISA is for Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency.
It's part of DHS.

ScottW

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On 12/6/22 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:

Me neither....until now.

Sure you did:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fires-cisa-director-chris-krebs-election-security

"President Trump fired top U.S. cybersecurity official Chris Krebs on
Tuesday, days after the agency Krebs led issued a statement that
categorically rejected the Trump campaign’s allegations of voter fraud
during the 2020 election."

You must remember his quote I've paraphrased: “The November 3rd election
was the most secure in American history."

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-this-how-system-supposed-work

Just as damning....if you google CISA you won't find a peep on the above news until page 4.

The news about Twitter voluntarily taking down a tweet that refers to 2004?

Wiki: On June 6, 2005, Judge John E. Bridges ruled that the Republican
party did not provide enough evidence that the disputed votes were
ineligible -or for whom they were cast- to overturn the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/07/cisa-is-taking-hands-off-approach-election-lies-twitter/
The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency says it’s taking
a hands-off approach when it comes to false claims about the election
process on Twitter.

CISA spokesperson Michael Feldman told me the agency isn’t flagging any election-related disinformation to Twitter or any social media platform.
His comments come after an Intercept report last week detailed
communications between the government and tech companies, prompting
criticism from conservatives and raising concerns among some civil
rights advocates.

Instead, Feldman said, state and local officials can flag potential disinformation about their elections to the Center for Internet Security
(CIS), a nonprofit which may then pass it on to social media platforms
“who, as always, make their own decisions according to their own
policies,” he wrote in an email.

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On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 9:02:47 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/6/22 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:

Me neither....until now.

Sure you did:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fires-cisa-director-chris-krebs-election-security

"President Trump fired top U.S. cybersecurity official Chris Krebs on Tuesday, days after the agency Krebs led issued a statement that categorically rejected the Trump campaign’s allegations of voter fraud during the 2020 election."

Aside from the obvious obfuscation.....how would a cybersecurity guy
know if any voter fraud occurred?
All he knows (or thinks he knows) is the networks weren't hacked.

Meanwhile...it's his team that is doing all the election meddling.
He should have been fired a long time earlier.

ScottW

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On 12/6/22 11:19 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 9:02:47 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/6/22 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:

Me neither....until now.

Sure you did:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fires-cisa-director-chris-krebs-election-security

"President Trump fired top U.S. cybersecurity official Chris Krebs on
Tuesday, days after the agency Krebs led issued a statement that
categorically rejected the Trump campaign’s allegations of voter fraud
during the 2020 election."

Aside from the obvious obfuscation...

Not obfuscation.

how would a cybersecurity guy know if any voter fraud occurred?

Maybe he asked these guys:

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council
(GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security
Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries
of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association
of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia
County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the
members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC)
– Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam
Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems &
Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and
Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works)

All he knows (or thinks he knows) is the networks weren't hacked.

Read for yourself:

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/04/statement-cisa-director-krebs-following-final-day-voting

And whatever those other guys know.

Meanwhile...it's his team that is doing all the election meddling.
He should have been fired a long time earlier.

Why would he be fired before making the statement Trump noticed?

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On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:51:21 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/6/22 11:19 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 9:02:47 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/6/22 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:

Me neither....until now.

Sure you did:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fires-cisa-director-chris-krebs-election-security

"President Trump fired top U.S. cybersecurity official Chris Krebs on
Tuesday, days after the agency Krebs led issued a statement that
categorically rejected the Trump campaign’s allegations of voter fraud >> during the 2020 election."

Aside from the obvious obfuscation...

Not obfuscation.

how would a cybersecurity guy know if any voter fraud occurred?

Maybe he asked these guys:

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council
(GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries
of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association
of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the
members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC)
– Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam
Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems &
Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works)

All he knows (or thinks he knows) is the networks weren't hacked.

Read for yourself:

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/04/statement-cisa-director-krebs-following-final-day-voting

And whatever those other guys know.

One day after and they're already making statements. That stinks on that alone.

Meanwhile...it's his team that is doing all the election meddling.
He should have been fired a long time earlier.

Why would he be fired before making the statement Trump noticed?

I am not arguing Trump wasn't on the ball here. A lot of this gov't censoring happened on his watch.

ScottW

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On 12/7/22 10:12 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:51:21 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/6/22 11:19 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 9:02:47 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/6/22 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:

Me neither....until now.

Sure you did:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fires-cisa-director-chris-krebs-election-security

Aside from the obvious obfuscation...

Not obfuscation.

how would a cybersecurity guy know if any voter fraud occurred?

Maybe he asked these guys:

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

Read for yourself:

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/04/statement-cisa-director-krebs-following-final-day-voting

And whatever those other guys know.

One day after and they're already making statements. That stinks on that alone.

That's Krebs. The joint statement was a week later. Since no credible
fraud has been discovered in the two years since, the stench has receded.

Meanwhile...it's his team that is doing all the election meddling.
He should have been fired a long time earlier.

Why would he be fired before making the statement Trump noticed?

I am not arguing Trump wasn't on the ball here. A lot of this gov't censoring
happened on his watch.

Yes, the Trump campaign and White House requests are unknown at this
point, whereas the known Biden ones simply ask twitter to apply its own
rules for salacious content.

As for "censorship," media had cause to be cautious about anything from Giuliani given his association with Russian-connected Ukrainian Andrii
Derkach, especially with missing metadata making verification impossible:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/treasury-department-ukrainian-linked-rudy-giuliani-russian-agent/story?id=72942083

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On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/7/22 10:12 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:51:21 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/6/22 11:19 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 9:02:47 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/6/22 10:33 AM, ScottW wrote:

Me neither....until now.

Sure you did:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fires-cisa-director-chris-krebs-election-security

Aside from the obvious obfuscation...

Not obfuscation.

how would a cybersecurity guy know if any voter fraud occurred?

Maybe he asked these guys:

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election
Read for yourself:

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/04/statement-cisa-director-krebs-following-final-day-voting

And whatever those other guys know.

One day after and they're already making statements. That stinks on that alone.

That's Krebs. The joint statement was a week later. Since no credible
fraud has been discovered in the two years since, the stench has receded.

Meanwhile...it's his team that is doing all the election meddling.
He should have been fired a long time earlier.

Why would he be fired before making the statement Trump noticed?

I am not arguing Trump wasn't on the ball here. A lot of this gov't censoring
happened on his watch.

Yes, the Trump campaign and White House requests are unknown at this
point, whereas the known Biden ones simply ask twitter to apply its own
rules for salacious content.

As for "censorship," media had cause to be cautious

Twitter, facebook, and Youtube are not "media".

Get that straight.

ScottW

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On 12/7/22 12:46 PM, ScottW wrote:

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/7/22 10:12 AM, ScottW wrote:

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:51:21 PM UTC-8, MINe109 wrote:

On 12/6/22 11:19 AM, ScottW wrote:

I am not arguing Trump wasn't on the ball here. A lot of this gov't censoring
happened on his watch.

Yes, the Trump campaign and White House requests are unknown at this
point, whereas the known Biden ones simply ask twitter to apply its own
rules for salacious content.

As for "censorship," media had cause to be cautious

Twitter, facebook, and Youtube are not "media".

You prefer to miss the point. The NYT, WaPo, etc passed on the story
just as they passed on the Steele Dossier and for similar reasons.

And, twitter, Facebook, and YouTube? They're social media.

Say, anything in the news about that Derkach guy?

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