• lathe chuck scroll lube?

    From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 29 18:15:53 2022
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which is
    exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks. The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but the
    manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as careful. Pix
    of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip and reassemble,
    as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sat Oct 29 16:16:56 2022
    On 10/29/2022 3:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from
    way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in
    some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which
    is exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks.
    The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but
    the manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as
    careful. Pix of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip
    and reassemble, as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?


    It may depend on the chuck. LeBlonde suggests starting with the manual
    that came with your chuck. Then they go on to write more on the
    subject. https://leblondusa.com/lubricate-your-chuck/

    I'd probably be more inclined to consider LeBlonde to be an
    authoritative source than a lot of other sources.

    "After reassembling the chuck and attaching to your manual, engine lathe
    like the RKL Series that LeBlond sells, stand to the side of the machine
    to avoid getting drenched by the oil when the lathe gets up to speed."


    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


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  • From Laura Allen@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Oct 29 20:33:53 2022
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:17:01 PM UTC-7, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 10/29/2022 3:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which
    is exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks. The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but
    the manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as careful. Pix of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip and reassemble, as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?

    It may depend on the chuck. LeBlonde suggests starting with the manual
    that came with your chuck. Then they go on to write more on the
    subject. https://leblondusa.com/lubricate-your-chuck/

    I'd probably be more inclined to consider LeBlonde to be an
    authoritative source than a lot of other sources.

    "After reassembling the chuck and attaching to your manual, engine lathe like the RKL Series that LeBlond sells, stand to the side of the machine
    to avoid getting drenched by the oil when the lathe gets up to speed."


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    CNC Molds N Stuff


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    I believe either Bison or Buck or maybe both make a lube for their chucks . Jim I have been very happy with my Sanou chuck for many years now . Just make sure the jaws & slots are numbered before dissembling . I made that mistake with my first chuck many
    years back . It took a lot longer to put back together than it took to take apart . Kicked myself in the ass a couple of times for that one .
    good luck
    animal

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 30 08:45:58 2022
    "Laura Allen" wrote in message news:6b2ab927-c1e3-4292-9f79-4143d1ab6426n@googlegroups.com...

    I believe either Bison or Buck or maybe both make a lube for their chucks .
    Jim I have been very happy with my Sanou chuck for many years now . Just
    make sure the jaws & slots are numbered before dissembling . I made that mistake with my first chuck many years back . It took a lot longer to put
    back together than it took to take apart . Kicked myself in the ass a couple
    of times for that one .
    good luck
    animal

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    I used to rebuild motorcycles so I have muffin trays to keep track of parts that shouldn't be marked, like engine valves, and a set of dollar store nail polish in the electronic color codes for numbering and marking polarity. A
    red '+' on a black battery case shows up much better on a white background. It's fun to see the clerk's reaction when I ask for help with the nail
    polish, they are very helpful after getting over their initial negativity.

    I have number punches for soft or thin metal, a broken tap reground to a
    punch for dotting steel, to avoid damaging my good center and number
    punches, and a Dremel cutoff wheel to mark hard steel with Roman numerals
    which consist of straight lines up to C. The acid pen I tried expands into a blur.

    The real question is if anyone can recommend from experience an effective
    and readily available lubricant that doesn't hold dust or chips, possibly a bicycle chain lube or the Liquid Wrench dry lube that the LeBlond video suggests. Someone suggested putting a cardboard box over the chuck before spinning it at max speed to expel the grease or oil. I'd retract the jaws
    into the chuck body first to avoid a dramatic display of confetti.

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sun Oct 30 10:00:13 2022
    On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:45:58 -0400
    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

    <snip>
    The real question is if anyone can recommend from experience an effective
    and readily available lubricant that doesn't hold dust or chips, possibly a >bicycle chain lube or the Liquid Wrench dry lube that the LeBlond video >suggests. Someone suggested putting a cardboard box over the chuck before >spinning it at max speed to expel the grease or oil. I'd retract the jaws >into the chuck body first to avoid a dramatic display of confetti.

    I've used Chain Wax similar to:

    https://www.amazon.com/Speedmaster-Wax-Bicycle-Chain-Lube/dp/B071VZ7D4Z/

    on my bicycle. Heat container in double boiler and let chain sit in
    melted wax for several minutes. Lift out and let solidify. Good for 500
    miles or so. It's not really messy to handle and is really sweat for
    the first couple hundred miles riding.

    Now how to apply it to your chuck if you wanted to try some is another
    story ;-) Close tolerances in fittings maybe an issue...

    Dri-Slide is still around too:

    https://www.drislide.com

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    Grand Rapids MI

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Mon Oct 31 10:26:15 2022
    On 10/29/2022 3:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from
    way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in
    some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which
    is exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks.
    The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but
    the manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as
    careful. Pix of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip
    and reassemble, as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?



    FYI: My six jaw has a ball oil port right on the face.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Mon Oct 31 18:38:28 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tjp0fn$1o3c$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    On 10/29/2022 3:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from
    way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in
    some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which is exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks.
    The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but the manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as careful.
    Pix of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip and reassemble, as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?


    FYI: My six jaw has a ball oil port right on the face.

    ----------------

    I saw pictures of chucks like that, but no agreement on what type or weight
    of oil to use. Since mine is a leather belt driven lathe with HSS tools it doesn't usually spin very fast with the larger chucks. I have small chucks
    and collets for small close-in work and a smaller, faster lathe for deep drilling and polishing.

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  • From Laura Allen@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Mon Oct 31 19:14:15 2022
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-7, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tjp0fn$1o3c$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
    On 10/29/2022 3:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in
    some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which is exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks. The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but the manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as careful.
    Pix of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip and reassemble, as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?


    FYI: My six jaw has a ball oil port right on the face.
    ----------------

    I saw pictures of chucks like that, but no agreement on what type or weight of oil to use. Since mine is a leather belt driven lathe with HSS tools it doesn't usually spin very fast with the larger chucks. I have small chucks and collets for small close-in work and a smaller, faster lathe for deep drilling and polishing.

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  • From Laura Allen@21:1/5 to Laura Allen on Mon Oct 31 19:22:10 2022
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-7, Laura Allen wrote:
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-7, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tjp0fn$1o3c$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
    On 10/29/2022 3:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which is
    exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks. The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but the
    manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as careful. Pix of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip and reassemble, as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?


    FYI: My six jaw has a ball oil port right on the face.
    ----------------

    I saw pictures of chucks like that, but no agreement on what type or weight of oil to use. Since mine is a leather belt driven lathe with HSS tools it doesn't usually spin very fast with the larger chucks. I have small chucks and collets for small close-in work and a smaller, faster lathe for deep drilling and polishing.
    Amazon has some https://www.amazon.com/CHUCK-EEZ-Chuck-Lubricant-oz-Cartridge/dp/B075FD2GYP/ref=sr_1_28?crid=2CI9VBU4BH9UT&keywords=lathe+chuck+lube&qid=1667268752&sprefix=lathe+chuck+lu%2Caps%2C1116&sr=8-28
    Bison has theirs https://www.ajaxtoolsupply.com/bilachgrforb.html?cmp=googleproducts&kw=bilachgrforb&gclid=CjwKCAjw5P2aBhAlEiwAAdY7dGOgGGYKOjkrDuv_RBdPcueyD4U4Es4MR6nCM4ye-6BYyu1eTvcH1RoCwdYQAvD_BwE
    A google came up with a few .
    animal

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  • From Laura Allen@21:1/5 to Laura Allen on Mon Oct 31 19:20:19 2022
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-7, Laura Allen wrote:
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-7, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tjp0fn$1o3c$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
    On 10/29/2022 3:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which is
    exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks. The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but the
    manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as careful. Pix of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip and reassemble, as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?


    FYI: My six jaw has a ball oil port right on the face.
    ----------------

    I saw pictures of chucks like that, but no agreement on what type or weight of oil to use. Since mine is a leather belt driven lathe with HSS tools it doesn't usually spin very fast with the larger chucks. I have small chucks and collets for small close-in work and a smaller, faster lathe for deep drilling and polishing.

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  • From Laura Allen@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Mon Oct 31 19:19:55 2022
    On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 3:39:12 PM UTC-7, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tjp0fn$1o3c$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
    On 10/29/2022 3:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in
    some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which is exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks. The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but the manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as careful.
    Pix of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip and reassemble, as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?


    FYI: My six jaw has a ball oil port right on the face.
    ----------------

    I saw pictures of chucks like that, but no agreement on what type or weight of oil to use. Since mine is a leather belt driven lathe with HSS tools it doesn't usually spin very fast with the larger chucks. I have small chucks and collets for small close-in work and a smaller, faster lathe for deep drilling and polishing.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Tue Nov 1 08:44:26 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tjkc99$3oah9$1@dont-email.me...

    On 10/29/2022 3:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    The Net abounds with answers to what to use, all different, ranging from
    way oil to antiseize to powdered graphite. Dry molybdenum disulfide in
    some expensive form seems to be a preferred answer for the scroll which is exposed to chips.

    I ordered the 6-jaw after reading many positive reviews of Sanou chucks.
    The general opinion appears to be that they are precisely machined but the manual ops of deburring and cleaning them may not have been as careful.
    Pix of opened chucks suggested that they aren't tricky to strip and reassemble, as long as every part goes back where it came from.

    How do you maintain your lathe chucks?


    It may depend on the chuck. LeBlonde suggests starting with the manual
    that came with your chuck. Then they go on to write more on the
    subject. https://leblondusa.com/lubricate-your-chuck/

    I'd probably be more inclined to consider LeBlonde to be an
    authoritative source than a lot of other sources.

    "After reassembling the chuck and attaching to your manual, engine lathe
    like the RKL Series that LeBlond sells, stand to the side of the machine
    to avoid getting drenched by the oil when the lathe gets up to speed."


    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

    ----------------

    It's odd that LeBlond's Halligan142 video link features a South Bend lathe.
    In part 2 he used grease on the scroll and shows that the old grease
    collected chips and the new stuff slung out inside the cardboard box. I'm leaning toward my usual marine lower unit grease on the bevel gear side and moly dry lube on the scroll and jaw tracks.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 3 18:21:48 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tjp0fn$1o3c$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    FYI: My six jaw has a ball oil port right on the face.

    -------------------

    This Sanou does too. What oil do you use?

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Thu Nov 3 15:56:43 2022
    On 11/3/2022 3:21 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:tjp0fn$1o3c$1@gioia.aioe.org...
    FYI:  My six jaw has a ball oil port right on the face.

    -------------------

    This Sanou does too. What oil do you use?


    I just use #2 way oil on everything except those items that specify
    otherwise. My CNC rotab, knee mill spindle, and gear boxes on the lathe specify other stuff, and a few things like power feed bevel gears and
    surface grinder gears specify grease, but for everything else... if it
    has an oil port I pump it full of #2 way oil.



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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Fri Nov 4 07:14:33 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tk1gvd$u3$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    On 11/3/2022 3:21 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tjp0fn$1o3c$1@gioia.aioe.org...
    FYI: My six jaw has a ball oil port right on the face.

    -------------------

    This Sanou does too. What oil do you use?


    I just use #2 way oil on everything except those items that specify
    otherwise. My CNC rotab, knee mill spindle, and gear boxes on the lathe specify other stuff, and a few things like power feed bevel gears and
    surface grinder gears specify grease, but for everything else... if it
    has an oil port I pump it full of #2 way oil.

    ---------------------

    Thanks. I use way oil on everything that slides or rotates slowly. It's in a classic brass Eagle #66 oiler that I bought new at the last nearby
    industrial supply house shortly before it closed.

    O'Reilly carries CRC Dry Moly Lube spray on special order. I try to support local stores before ordering on line.

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