Me: As you can see in the 3D model this is the only position in which
these parts fit. If you consider a different part here with a different anchor shape you may have greater ease of use and better fit-up. In
addition we will have greater flexibility in our final positions so that
a greater range of other components will fit up and look good.
Them: Okay do whatever you need to do, but move those pieces in
opposite directions (so they coincide in space and time), and make it
fit multiple different parts so I can swap on the fly and it needs to
look great.
Me: If you do it that way your components will interfere with each
other, and if you force it you will have spring back in the wrong
position for some components. May I suggest an alternative component
that will not adversely impact appearance or performance in anyway, and
will allow for a better over all quality of casting and ease of use.
Them: Well, this component works just fine in other molds. We are
using this one.
Me: Okay, but I need you to acknowledge that you may have the issues I talked about along with flashing,and less than aesthetically appealing component location, and spring back in the final castings and that I
advised you of these possibilities. I need you to say you are okay with that.
Then: Here is a picture of somebody else's product showing what I want.
Me: If you look at your picture it has ever single issue I brought up.
Them: Well IF you can make it perfect I want you to make it with every criteria I gave you...
Me: FRACK!!!
God has granted me a fair number of abilities. One of those is the
capacity to learn new things which has served me well. For this I am
very thankful. The capacity to violate the commonly accepted working
laws of physics is not among those abilities.
On 3/8/2023 12:42 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
Me: As you can see in the 3D model this is the only position in which
these parts fit. If you consider a different part here with a
different anchor shape you may have greater ease of use and better
fit-up. In addition we will have greater flexibility in our final
positions so that a greater range of other components will fit up and
look good.
Them: Okay do whatever you need to do, but move those pieces in
opposite directions (so they coincide in space and time), and make it
fit multiple different parts so I can swap on the fly and it needs to
look great.
Me: If you do it that way your components will interfere with each
other, and if you force it you will have spring back in the wrong
position for some components. May I suggest an alternative component
that will not adversely impact appearance or performance in anyway,
and will allow for a better over all quality of casting and ease of use.
Them: Well, this component works just fine in other molds. We are
using this one.
Me: Okay, but I need you to acknowledge that you may have the issues
I talked about along with flashing,and less than aesthetically
appealing component location, and spring back in the final castings
and that I advised you of these possibilities. I need you to say you
are okay with that.
Then: Here is a picture of somebody else's product showing what I want.
Me: If you look at your picture it has ever single issue I brought up.
Them: Well IF you can make it perfect I want you to make it with
every criteria I gave you...
Me: FRACK!!!
God has granted me a fair number of abilities. One of those is the
capacity to learn new things which has served me well. For this I am
very thankful. The capacity to violate the commonly accepted working
laws of physics is not among those abilities.
I once had an architect (female ...) that just couldn't understand
that I couldn't hang a panel on thin air ... This was part of a display column/register station in the center of a sales kiosk in a major
Memphis mall .
On 3/8/2023 12:42 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
Me: As you can see in the 3D model this is the only position in which
these parts fit. If you consider a different part here with a
different anchor shape you may have greater ease of use and better
fit-up. In addition we will have greater flexibility in our final
positions so that a greater range of other components will fit up and
look good.
Them: Okay do whatever you need to do, but move those pieces in
opposite directions (so they coincide in space and time), and make it
fit multiple different parts so I can swap on the fly and it needs to
look great.
Me: If you do it that way your components will interfere with each
other, and if you force it you will have spring back in the wrong
position for some components. May I suggest an alternative component
that will not adversely impact appearance or performance in anyway,
and will allow for a better over all quality of casting and ease of use.
Them: Well, this component works just fine in other molds. We are
using this one.
Me: Okay, but I need you to acknowledge that you may have the issues
I talked about along with flashing,and less than aesthetically
appealing component location, and spring back in the final castings
and that I advised you of these possibilities. I need you to say you
are okay with that.
Then: Here is a picture of somebody else's product showing what I want.
Me: If you look at your picture it has ever single issue I brought up.
Them: Well IF you can make it perfect I want you to make it with
every criteria I gave you...
Me: FRACK!!!
God has granted me a fair number of abilities. One of those is the
capacity to learn new things which has served me well. For this I am
very thankful. The capacity to violate the commonly accepted working
laws of physics is not among those abilities.
I once had an architect (female ...) that just couldn't understand
that I couldn't hang a panel on thin air ... This was part of a display column/register station in the center of a sales kiosk in a major
Memphis mall .
On 3/8/2023 3:00 PM, Snag wrote:
On 3/8/2023 12:42 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
Me: As you can see in the 3D model this is the only position in
which these parts fit. If you consider a different part here with a
different anchor shape you may have greater ease of use and better
fit-up. In addition we will have greater flexibility in our final
positions so that a greater range of other components will fit up and
look good.
Them: Okay do whatever you need to do, but move those pieces in
opposite directions (so they coincide in space and time), and make it
fit multiple different parts so I can swap on the fly and it needs to
look great.
Me: If you do it that way your components will interfere with each
other, and if you force it you will have spring back in the wrong
position for some components. May I suggest an alternative component
that will not adversely impact appearance or performance in anyway,
and will allow for a better over all quality of casting and ease of use. >>>
Them: Well, this component works just fine in other molds. We are
using this one.
Me: Okay, but I need you to acknowledge that you may have the issues
I talked about along with flashing,and less than aesthetically
appealing component location, and spring back in the final castings
and that I advised you of these possibilities. I need you to say you
are okay with that.
Then: Here is a picture of somebody else's product showing what I want. >>>
Me: If you look at your picture it has ever single issue I brought up. >>>
Them: Well IF you can make it perfect I want you to make it with
every criteria I gave you...
Me: FRACK!!!
God has granted me a fair number of abilities. One of those is the
capacity to learn new things which has served me well. For this I am
very thankful. The capacity to violate the commonly accepted working
laws of physics is not among those abilities.
I once had an architect (female ...) that just couldn't understand
that I couldn't hang a panel on thin air ... This was part of a
display column/register station in the center of a sales kiosk in a
major Memphis mall .
This was after he said, "can't we just rotate it so the hook/anchor is
off to one side?"
This was the simpler demo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK9K24yrxAc
I'm about ready to refund his money and write off the time (quite a bit) spent explaining the basic conundrum that two physical parts can't
occupy the same space at the same time.
This is not a home hack guy just making a few jigs in his garage. This
is somebody with a real tackle making business who has tried to impress
me that he is doing work for guys in Major League Fishing, done a bit of
name dropping, etc, etc, etc.
I even suggested an alternative part that doesn't have the glaringly
obvious (I guess not so obvious) problem.
I am thankful he only went for one mold instead of the multiples he
tried to use to negotiate, but I am even more thankful it says in every
email that quotes are only good for ten days.
[snip rant]
God has granted me a fair number of abilities. One of those is the
capacity to learn new things which has served me well. For this I am
very thankful. The capacity to violate the commonly accepted working
laws of physics is not among those abilities.
Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> writes:
[snip rant]
God has granted me a fair number of abilities. One of those is the
capacity to learn new things which has served me well. For this I am
very thankful. The capacity to violate the commonly accepted working
laws of physics is not among those abilities.
Or mathematics? I have a photographer friend who took someone's
wedding photos using 2"x2" film/negatives. Some months later, the
client returned with one of the prints and asked for an 8x10 of the
same photo. He explained that he could crop part of the photo (No,
no! I want the whole photo!) or black bars above and/or below (No, no,
no! Just exactly like this one but 8x10!). She finally went away
believing he was an obstinate, arrogant nffubyr who simply refused
to do what she wanted out of sheer cussedness.
"Mike Spencer" wrote in message news:87pm9ibk0x.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere...
Or mathematics? I have a photographer friend who took someone's
wedding photos using 2"x2" film/negatives. Some months later, the
client returned with one of the prints and asked for an 8x10 of the
same photo. He explained that he could crop part of the photo (No,
no! I want the whole photo!) or black bars above and/or below (No, no, no! Just exactly like this one but 8x10!). She finally went away believing he was an obstinate, arrogant nffubyr who simply refused
to do what she wanted out of sheer cussedness.
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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The classic rebuttal to a misconception was Feynman dunking an O-ring
into his glass of ice water at the Challenger disaster hearing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raMmRKGkGD4
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