I may take this afternoon off to finish installing that new bumper...
once I come to the realization that I'm just going to have to cut the
stock plugs off the factory wiring harness.
And this is why nothing ever gets done.
"Bob La Londe"Â wrote in message news:uago6g$rlmd$1@dont-email.me...
Five years ago I bought a new winch bumper for the front of the Jeep.
The box has been laying on the floor in that work bay ever since. Well yesterday I threw that box away and now there is a lot less room in that
bay to work. There is a Jeep parked in there (its shorter than the boat
and trailer), and there is a bumper and air dam that came off the Jeep
laying on the floor. The new bumper atleast isn't also laying there. I set in the back on the welding table so I could extend the pigtails. I would have finished, but the LED "fog" lights in the new off road winch bumper are just pig tailed and the stock ones mated with pigtail plugs
on the factory wiring harness.  I'm not sure I want to cut those plugs
off so I can hard wire in the lights in the new bumper.
---------------------------
Amazon sells kits of waterproof automotive connectors that you could Y
splice into the plug leads, or just add flat "SAE" trailer connectors.
If you do cut off the factory plug I'd leave about 6" of wire attached
to be able to reuse it. Marine grade heatshrink has hot melt glue inside
to seal the splice.
"Bob La Londe"Â wrote in message news:uaha63$u5l4$1@dont-email.me...
I didn't think there was any chance at all, but this looks like it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/174710405437
Just cut off the end that matches the plug on the jeep, and wire the
other to the lights in the bumper. Then it can always be swapped back
to the stock bumper.
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
-----------------------------
https://www.autozone.com/parts/electrical-and-lighting/electrical-connectors/jeep
"Bob La Londe"Â wrote in message news:uaj9hm$1beee$1@dont-email.me...
To be fair I do not think I have ever turned on the fog lights on the
Jeep, and at the moment I'm not even sure I know exactly how. Its like extra fish hooks or a bigger motor. Its better to have it and not need
it than to need it and not have it.
Bob La Londe
-----------------
Arizona has fog??
On 8/4/2023 9:48 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe"Â wrote in message news:uaj9hm$1beee$1@dont-email.me...
To be fair I do not think I have ever turned on the fog lights on the
Jeep, and at the moment I'm not even sure I know exactly how. Its
like extra fish hooks or a bigger motor. Its better to have it and
not need it than to need it and not have it.
Bob La Londe
-----------------
Arizona has fog??
Yeah, about once or twice a year actually. It usually lifts/dissipates
with the sun. I'm not sure where it comes from, but we do have a direct path to the Sea of Cortez with no mountains in between. You old farts
would have been taught to call it the Gulf of California. I guess a fog
in the gulf could push right up the Colorado River valley.
Dust is more likely, but the way my life and business are structured
these days I almost never "have to" go anywhere "right now."Â The
exception being if a family member is in trouble or if one of my four
friends needs me.... and three of them don't live here. If they are in trouble its possible they went off the road in the fog.
Send me a pin and give me a few minutes to gather up emergency gear. I still don't have a winch installed on the Jeep. Ha! Id be more likely
to bring the truck anyway due to the weight advantage, and close to the
house I might bring the tractor.
Interestingly I have gotten both the truck and the tractor stuck before,
but I have not yet gotten the Jeep stuck. If you jack it up and fill in
the holes the truck usually will drive right out if I flatten the tires.
 So far anyway. The tractor (also 4wd) can drag or push itself out
with the loader bucket. I could claim that's why the Jeep is getting
the winch, but the honest truth is its vanity. I hate the look of the plastic bumpers on the Jeep. I guess not that much since its taken me almost 6 years to start swapping them out. Maybe by the time its worn
out and blown up I'll get rid of those stupid looking plastic wheel
fenders too. Anyway, if I'm going to swap the bumper on a Jeep it
should be to winch bumper, so when people gather around the sugar barrel
at the general store to lie about their hotrods I can honestly say,
"Well my Jeep is modified too."
Its funny, when I first bought it I had half a dozen people ask me, "So
what are you going to do with it?" like it was just assumed anybody who bought a Jeep was either building a rock crawler or a swamp buggy.
My answer was always the same, "Drive it."Â I wouldn't mind someday
driving the "modern" Devil's Highway along the border, but not enough to build a special rig for it. Then I ran trap lines with a station wagon
my first year doing it. LOL.
"Bob La Londe"Â wrote in message news:uasdbg$37nr7$1@dont-email.me...
Well, the bumper is installed. The plugs I found on FleaBay seem to be
the right ones. The lights work anyway. Yes. I am certain I had never turned the fog lights on before. I had to hunt for a while to figure
out how.
The new winch was supposed to arrive today, but its coming by FedEx.
I'll be happy if it arrives intact. On time? That's not even an option.
Bob La Londe
--------------
Here is a rooftop accessory you might like: https://inertproducts.com/product/m2-hb-50-cal-oxy-propane-gunfire-simulator/
Some warbirds have them in the wings, remotely operated. I watched a
P-40 and a replica Zero meet head-on, then the P-40 did a surprisingly
quick and nimble wingover turn and dropped onto the Zero's tail, firing
those guns, while the Zero made smoke.
On 8/8/2023 4:33 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe"Â wrote in message news:uasdbg$37nr7$1@dont-email.me...
Well, the bumper is installed. The plugs I found on FleaBay seem to be
the right ones. The lights work anyway. Yes. I am certain I had never >> turned the fog lights on before. I had to hunt for a while to figure
out how.
The new winch was supposed to arrive today, but its coming by FedEx.
I'll be happy if it arrives intact. On time? That's not even an option. >>
Bob La Londe
--------------
Here is a rooftop accessory you might like:
https://inertproducts.com/product/m2-hb-50-cal-oxy-propane-gunfire-simulator/
Some warbirds have them in the wings, remotely operated. I watched a
P-40 and a replica Zero meet head-on, then the P-40 did a surprisingly
quick and nimble wingover turn and dropped onto the Zero's tail,
firing those guns, while the Zero made smoke.
Sounds like a fun air show.
If I could find the right mount that might look cool to put on my dad's
'42 Willys Jeep. His is painted olive drab of course. I think he had
some olive drab paint surplus from something because I remember him
painting file cabinets and benches with the stuff long before he had
traded for the Jeep.
One day I was out fishing in a local irrigation canal, when I heard a
shot way to close. I was ducked down behind the Jeep hand on my pistol before my front brain even kicked in. When I'd stopped there I hadn't
seen anybody, and I'm not terribly in observant. Very carefully I
checked the area, not really knowing even what direction the shot came
from.
Finally I saw an automatic propane cannon in the corner of a field. they
use them to scare birds off fresh planted fields and emerging
seedlings.  As I stood up to figure out where I had dropped my fishing
rod when it went off again. I still jumped.
It was some 20-30 yards away, but it sounded like a big bore rifle going
off right next to me. Like an old Sharps or something like that.
Sharper crack than a typical BP cannon, but maybe not as sharp as a high power rifle like a 30-06 or a 270. It wasn't even pointed in my
direction. No sonic boom of course.
Yeah, propane guns can be quite good gunfire simulators.
On 8/8/2023 9:42 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/8/2023 4:33 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe"Â wrote in message news:uasdbg$37nr7$1@dont-email.me...
Well, the bumper is installed. The plugs I found on FleaBay seem to be >>> the right ones. The lights work anyway. Yes. I am certain I had
never
turned the fog lights on before. I had to hunt for a while to figure
out how.
The new winch was supposed to arrive today, but its coming by FedEx.
I'll be happy if it arrives intact. On time? That's not even an
option.
Bob La Londe
--------------
Here is a rooftop accessory you might like:
https://inertproducts.com/product/m2-hb-50-cal-oxy-propane-gunfire-simulator/
Some warbirds have them in the wings, remotely operated. I watched a
P-40 and a replica Zero meet head-on, then the P-40 did a
surprisingly quick and nimble wingover turn and dropped onto the
Zero's tail, firing those guns, while the Zero made smoke.
Sounds like a fun air show.
If I could find the right mount that might look cool to put on my
dad's '42 Willys Jeep. His is painted olive drab of course. I think
he had some olive drab paint surplus from something because I
remember him painting file cabinets and benches with the stuff long
before he had traded for the Jeep.
One day I was out fishing in a local irrigation canal, when I heard a
shot way to close. I was ducked down behind the Jeep hand on my
pistol before my front brain even kicked in. When I'd stopped there
I hadn't seen anybody, and I'm not terribly in observant. Very
carefully I checked the area, not really knowing even what direction
the shot came from.
Finally I saw an automatic propane cannon in the corner of a field.
they use them to scare birds off fresh planted fields and emerging
seedlings.  As I stood up to figure out where I had dropped my
fishing rod when it went off again. I still jumped.
It was some 20-30 yards away, but it sounded like a big bore rifle
going off right next to me. Like an old Sharps or something like
that. Sharper crack than a typical BP cannon, but maybe not as sharp
as a high power rifle like a 30-06 or a 270. It wasn't even pointed
in my direction. No sonic boom of course.
Yeah, propane guns can be quite good gunfire simulators.
 I've read that acetylene does it better ... haven't tested that
myself but I've been tempted .
On 8/8/2023 9:42 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:Pinch off the hose of an OA torch then use the torch to blow up a
On 8/8/2023 4:33 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:uasdbg$37nr7$1@dont-email.me...
Well, the bumper is installed. The plugs I found on FleaBay seem to be
the right ones. The lights work anyway. Yes. I am certain I had never >>> turned the fog lights on before. I had to hunt for a while to figure
out how.
The new winch was supposed to arrive today, but its coming by FedEx.
I'll be happy if it arrives intact. On time? That's not even an option. >>>
Bob La Londe
--------------
Here is a rooftop accessory you might like:
https://inertproducts.com/product/m2-hb-50-cal-oxy-propane-gunfire-simulator/
Some warbirds have them in the wings, remotely operated. I watched a
P-40 and a replica Zero meet head-on, then the P-40 did a surprisingly
quick and nimble wingover turn and dropped onto the Zero's tail,
firing those guns, while the Zero made smoke.
Sounds like a fun air show.
If I could find the right mount that might look cool to put on my dad's
'42 Willys Jeep. His is painted olive drab of course. I think he had
some olive drab paint surplus from something because I remember him
painting file cabinets and benches with the stuff long before he had
traded for the Jeep.
One day I was out fishing in a local irrigation canal, when I heard a
shot way to close. I was ducked down behind the Jeep hand on my pistol
before my front brain even kicked in. When I'd stopped there I hadn't
seen anybody, and I'm not terribly in observant. Very carefully I
checked the area, not really knowing even what direction the shot came
from.
Finally I saw an automatic propane cannon in the corner of a field. they
use them to scare birds off fresh planted fields and emerging
seedlings. As I stood up to figure out where I had dropped my fishing
rod when it went off again. I still jumped.
It was some 20-30 yards away, but it sounded like a big bore rifle going
off right next to me. Like an old Sharps or something like that.
Sharper crack than a typical BP cannon, but maybe not as sharp as a high
power rifle like a 30-06 or a 270. It wasn't even pointed in my
direction. No sonic boom of course.
Yeah, propane guns can be quite good gunfire simulators.
I've read that acetylene does it better ... haven't tested that
myself but I've been tempted .
On 8/8/2023 9:42 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/8/2023 4:33 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe"Â wrote in message news:uasdbg$37nr7$1@dont-email.me...
Well, the bumper is installed. The plugs I found on FleaBay seem to be >>> the right ones. The lights work anyway. Yes. I am certain I had never >>> turned the fog lights on before. I had to hunt for a while to figure
out how.
The new winch was supposed to arrive today, but its coming by FedEx.
I'll be happy if it arrives intact. On time? That's not even an
option.
Bob La Londe
--------------
Here is a rooftop accessory you might like:
https://inertproducts.com/product/m2-hb-50-cal-oxy-propane-gunfire-simulator/
Some warbirds have them in the wings, remotely operated. I watched a
P-40 and a replica Zero meet head-on, then the P-40 did a
surprisingly quick and nimble wingover turn and dropped onto the
Zero's tail, firing those guns, while the Zero made smoke.
Sounds like a fun air show.
If I could find the right mount that might look cool to put on my
dad's '42 Willys Jeep. His is painted olive drab of course. I think
he had some olive drab paint surplus from something because I remember
him painting file cabinets and benches with the stuff long before he
had traded for the Jeep.
One day I was out fishing in a local irrigation canal, when I heard a
shot way to close. I was ducked down behind the Jeep hand on my
pistol before my front brain even kicked in. When I'd stopped there I
hadn't seen anybody, and I'm not terribly in observant. Very
carefully I checked the area, not really knowing even what direction
the shot came from.
Finally I saw an automatic propane cannon in the corner of a field.
they use them to scare birds off fresh planted fields and emerging
seedlings.  As I stood up to figure out where I had dropped my
fishing rod when it went off again. I still jumped.
It was some 20-30 yards away, but it sounded like a big bore rifle
going off right next to me. Like an old Sharps or something like
that. Sharper crack than a typical BP cannon, but maybe not as sharp
as a high power rifle like a 30-06 or a 270. It wasn't even pointed
in my direction. No sonic boom of course.
Yeah, propane guns can be quite good gunfire simulators.
 I've read that acetylene does it better ... haven't tested that
myself but I've been tempted .
On 8/8/2023 6:46 PM, Snag wrote:
On 8/8/2023 9:42 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/8/2023 4:33 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe"Â wrote in message news:uasdbg$37nr7$1@dont-email.me... >>>>
Well, the bumper is installed. The plugs I found on FleaBay seem to be >>>> the right ones. The lights work anyway. Yes. I am certain I had
never
turned the fog lights on before. I had to hunt for a while to figure >>>> out how.
The new winch was supposed to arrive today, but its coming by FedEx.
I'll be happy if it arrives intact. On time? That's not even an
option.
Bob La Londe
--------------
Here is a rooftop accessory you might like:
https://inertproducts.com/product/m2-hb-50-cal-oxy-propane-gunfire-simulator/
Some warbirds have them in the wings, remotely operated. I watched a
P-40 and a replica Zero meet head-on, then the P-40 did a
surprisingly quick and nimble wingover turn and dropped onto the
Zero's tail, firing those guns, while the Zero made smoke.
Sounds like a fun air show.
If I could find the right mount that might look cool to put on my
dad's '42 Willys Jeep. His is painted olive drab of course. I think
he had some olive drab paint surplus from something because I
remember him painting file cabinets and benches with the stuff long
before he had traded for the Jeep.
One day I was out fishing in a local irrigation canal, when I heard a
shot way to close. I was ducked down behind the Jeep hand on my
pistol before my front brain even kicked in. When I'd stopped there
I hadn't seen anybody, and I'm not terribly in observant. Very
carefully I checked the area, not really knowing even what direction
the shot came from.
Finally I saw an automatic propane cannon in the corner of a field.
they use them to scare birds off fresh planted fields and emerging
seedlings.  As I stood up to figure out where I had dropped my
fishing rod when it went off again. I still jumped.
It was some 20-30 yards away, but it sounded like a big bore rifle
going off right next to me. Like an old Sharps or something like
that. Sharper crack than a typical BP cannon, but maybe not as sharp
as a high power rifle like a 30-06 or a 270. It wasn't even pointed
in my direction. No sonic boom of course.
Yeah, propane guns can be quite good gunfire simulators.
  I've read that acetylene does it better ... haven't tested that
myself but I've been tempted .
I tend not to not play with acetylene. I've seen an open air detonation with no apparent ignition source. I went and got a welding glove to
reach in and turn the bottle off. I'm pretty sure this group back when
it happened.
That being said when I was a kid there was a well drilling outfit that
used the lots between our grocery store and our hardware store when they
were working in our area. On the fourth of July they were filling
balloons with acetylene and dropping them into a burning barrel. I
don't recall if they were running straight acetylene, or if it was an O2 mix. They were igniting them by tossing a burning piece of trash into
the barrel. It made a pretty satisfying boom.
I've seen videos of small balloons going off . Convinced me that I
don't need to try it myself . If I want to make boom-boom noises I'll
use gunpowder ... it's more stable .
On 8/8/2023 9:42 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/8/2023 4:33 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:uasdbg$37nr7$1@dont-email.me...
Well, the bumper is installed. The plugs I found on FleaBay seem to be
the right ones. The lights work anyway. Yes. I am certain I had never >>> turned the fog lights on before. I had to hunt for a while to figure
out how.
The new winch was supposed to arrive today, but its coming by FedEx.
I'll be happy if it arrives intact. On time? That's not even an option. >>>
Bob La Londe
--------------
Here is a rooftop accessory you might like:
https://inertproducts.com/product/m2-hb-50-cal-oxy-propane-gunfire-simulator/
Some warbirds have them in the wings, remotely operated. I watched a
P-40 and a replica Zero meet head-on, then the P-40 did a surprisingly
quick and nimble wingover turn and dropped onto the Zero's tail,
firing those guns, while the Zero made smoke.
Sounds like a fun air show.
If I could find the right mount that might look cool to put on my dad's
'42 Willys Jeep. His is painted olive drab of course. I think he had
some olive drab paint surplus from something because I remember him
painting file cabinets and benches with the stuff long before he had
traded for the Jeep.
One day I was out fishing in a local irrigation canal, when I heard a
shot way to close. I was ducked down behind the Jeep hand on my pistol
before my front brain even kicked in. When I'd stopped there I hadn't
seen anybody, and I'm not terribly in observant. Very carefully I
checked the area, not really knowing even what direction the shot came
from.
Finally I saw an automatic propane cannon in the corner of a field. they
use them to scare birds off fresh planted fields and emerging
seedlings. As I stood up to figure out where I had dropped my fishing
rod when it went off again. I still jumped.
It was some 20-30 yards away, but it sounded like a big bore rifle going
off right next to me. Like an old Sharps or something like that.
Sharper crack than a typical BP cannon, but maybe not as sharp as a high
power rifle like a 30-06 or a 270. It wasn't even pointed in my
direction. No sonic boom of course.
Yeah, propane guns can be quite good gunfire simulators.
I've read that acetylene does it better ... haven't tested that
myself but I've been tempted .
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