• Re: Those Axles

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Thu Mar 21 16:58:18 2024
    On 3/21/2024 4:27 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Sometimes nothing goes quite right.  3ish years ago I picked up a
    gooseneck trailer to haul stuff and help my dad get his collection of
    junk vehicles in order.  Then my dad started making it difficult to do
    the things we agreed to do, so I parked the trailer and let him decide
    how he wanted to handle it.  Well, he passed away last month and nothing
    was done.  In fact there is now yet another vehicle that needs to be
    dealt with.  Along with everything else and taking care of my mom.

    I started to get the trailer ready to go recover a truck on the other
    half of the state (can't drive it as far as I know), and figured I'd
    finally get around to fixing the brakes on the trailer.  One axle had
    brake (not plural) and the other axle had no place to put brakes.  No problem.  If I am careful brakes on one axle would be adequate.  I
    figured I'd buy two brake assemblies.  Install one and replace the one
    that was still there, so they would be new good chappe and matching.
    Yeah, not a freaking chance.  As near as I can tell nobody anywhere
    makes trailer brake hubs in that configuration anywhere.  The original manufacturer is still in business, but they list them as long obsolete.
     After days of chasing parts, emailing, and calling a new axle was the
    only option.  They are drop axles so just swapping the spindles would be problematic.

    I started chasing axles.  Nobody makes an axle in quite the right configuration with the same bolt pattern hub either anymore.  So, both axles, and new rims... I figured new tires anyway, but still.  It got to
    be a quite expensive purchase.  Two new electric brake drop axles.  4
    tires and rims, assorted hardware.  I found one (JUST ONE) company that
    had something that would fit if I customize it slightly myself.  They
    listed them as two plus weeks to ship, so I contacted them to ask what
    two "plus" means in real world time.   The person I chatted with assured
    me they were in fact in stock and would ship within a day or two.  On
    the third full day after I paid for them I asked when they would ship.
    "Oh no.  Those are not in stock.  We have to get them from the manufacturer."  To say I was not happy with them would be a little bit
    of an understatement.

    It's been ten days and they were supposed to be delivered today here in
    Yuma between 12:00 and 1:00pm.  They were.  Between 12:00 and 1:00
    Honolulu time.  They definitely were not shipped in 1 to 2 days.  On a positive note it hasn't been two plus weeks either.

    So now a week behind schedule I have to put these axles on this trailer.

    Images visible here:  https://www.yumabassman.com/2024/03/21/those-axles/

    If you are going to call me up and tell me how I could have done it
    better faster cheaper... please don't.  I have the new axles now.  I may not have checked every possible option, but I spent a lot of time
    chasing down options, and the expensive solution was the best I could
    find.  **

    If you are going to call me up and say you will take those free axles f
    I am going to throw them away... because you are that kind of person... don't.  I have plans for those axles on trailers that do not require brakes.  Bearings and seals are still available, so they should last a
    long time in a lighter load application as long I as repack them, and I
    don't burn up a bearing so bad it takes out the spindle.

    ** Well, there was another option I considered.  I have an old "junk"
    travel trailer with similar drop axles, and the brakes are complete all
    the way around.  I considered jerking them out from under it, and
    setting the frame on blocks so I could use those axles on the
    gooseneck.  It would have been double the work, and they are old too. If
    I needed parts I'd have probably run into the same issues with those
    axles.  I thought it would be faster to just order new axles with good complete brakes for the gooseneck.  Yeah, maybe not.  LOL

    I did have one thing sorta go right. I received a message from Linked
    in yesterday day saying if I took a survey they would give me five
    dollars. It was a very short survey, and today five dollars appeared in
    my backup PayPal account. **

    I went on Ebay and discovered with tax I could buy something priced at
    4.69 and it came out to exactly 5 dollars. I bought an automatic center
    punch. It would have been cheaper at Harbor Freight, but hey, this was basically free money, and no gas to go get it (free shipping). I was
    torn between the automatic punch or a receiver hitch pin.

    ** I have two business PayPal accounts. One for CNC Molds N Stuff, and
    one for my old contracting company. The Security Consultant. I let
    them send the money to the older account because its linked to my
    throwaway spam trap email address. Just in case they figured five bucks
    was a cheap way to harvest an email address they didn't already have.

    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 21 16:27:42 2024
    Sometimes nothing goes quite right.  3ish years ago I picked up a
    gooseneck trailer to haul stuff and help my dad get his collection of
    junk vehicles in order.  Then my dad started making it difficult to do
    the things we agreed to do, so I parked the trailer and let him decide
    how he wanted to handle it.  Well, he passed away last month and nothing
    was done.  In fact there is now yet another vehicle that needs to be
    dealt with.  Along with everything else and taking care of my mom.

    I started to get the trailer ready to go recover a truck on the other
    half of the state (can't drive it as far as I know), and figured I'd
    finally get around to fixing the brakes on the trailer.  One axle had
    brake (not plural) and the other axle had no place to put brakes.  No problem.  If I am careful brakes on one axle would be adequate.  I
    figured I'd buy two brake assemblies.  Install one and replace the one
    that was still there, so they would be new good chappe and matching. 
    Yeah, not a freaking chance.  As near as I can tell nobody anywhere
    makes trailer brake hubs in that configuration anywhere.  The original manufacturer is still in business, but they list them as long obsolete. 
     After days of chasing parts, emailing, and calling a new axle was the
    only option.  They are drop axles so just swapping the spindles would be problematic.

    I started chasing axles.  Nobody makes an axle in quite the right configuration with the same bolt pattern hub either anymore.  So, both
    axles, and new rims... I figured new tires anyway, but still.  It got to
    be a quite expensive purchase.  Two new electric brake drop axles.  4
    tires and rims, assorted hardware.  I found one (JUST ONE) company that
    had something that would fit if I customize it slightly myself.  They
    listed them as two plus weeks to ship, so I contacted them to ask what
    two "plus" means in real world time.   The person I chatted with assured
    me they were in fact in stock and would ship within a day or two.  On
    the third full day after I paid for them I asked when they would ship. 
    "Oh no.  Those are not in stock.  We have to get them from the manufacturer."  To say I was not happy with them would be a little bit
    of an understatement.

    It's been ten days and they were supposed to be delivered today here in
    Yuma between 12:00 and 1:00pm.  They were.  Between 12:00 and 1:00
    Honolulu time.  They definitely were not shipped in 1 to 2 days.  On a positive note it hasn't been two plus weeks either.

    So now a week behind schedule I have to put these axles on this trailer.

    Images visible here: https://www.yumabassman.com/2024/03/21/those-axles/

    If you are going to call me up and tell me how I could have done it
    better faster cheaper... please don't.  I have the new axles now. I may
    not have checked every possible option, but I spent a lot of time
    chasing down options, and the expensive solution was the best I could
    find.  **

    If you are going to call me up and say you will take those free axles f
    I am going to throw them away... because you are that kind of person... don't.  I have plans for those axles on trailers that do not require
    brakes.  Bearings and seals are still available, so they should last a
    long time in a lighter load application as long I as repack them, and I
    don't burn up a bearing so bad it takes out the spindle.

    ** Well, there was another option I considered.  I have an old "junk"
    travel trailer with similar drop axles, and the brakes are complete all
    the way around.  I considered jerking them out from under it, and
    setting the frame on blocks so I could use those axles on the
    gooseneck.  It would have been double the work, and they are old too. 
    If I needed parts I'd have probably run into the same issues with those axles.  I thought it would be faster to just order new axles with good complete brakes for the gooseneck.  Yeah, maybe not.  LOL
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Thu Mar 21 22:46:41 2024
    On 3/21/2024 6:27 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Sometimes nothing goes quite right.

    <snippage of Bob's trials and tribulations has occurred in this location>


    So now a week behind schedule I have to put these axles on this trailer.

    Images visible here:  https://www.yumabassman.com/2024/03/21/those-axles/


    I feel your pain ... but there is a semi-precious metal lining to
    your cloud . It's very unlikely you'll ever need to repair those
    axles/brakes . Realizing that many of my projects will outlive me has
    put a new perspective on life .
    I've got 2 of the 3 new scales mounted and aligned on my mill now .
    Still haven't heard from the vendor if a computer power cord will work
    since they sent one with the wrong plug - the pin marked "line" is the
    hot on both plugs at the device end . Z axis is going to be fun , it
    looks like the scale will have to be static and the read head the moving component .
    --
    Snag
    "They may take our lives but
    they'll never take our freedom."
    William Wallace

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sun Mar 31 15:20:01 2024
    On 3/21/2024 4:58 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 3/21/2024 4:27 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Sometimes nothing goes quite right.  3ish years ago I picked up a
    gooseneck trailer to haul stuff and help my dad get his collection of
    junk vehicles in order.  Then my dad started making it difficult to do
    the things we agreed to do, so I parked the trailer and let him decide
    how he wanted to handle it.  Well, he passed away last month and
    nothing was done.  In fact there is now yet another vehicle that needs
    to be dealt with.  Along with everything else and taking care of my mom.

    I started to get the trailer ready to go recover a truck on the other
    half of the state (can't drive it as far as I know), and figured I'd
    finally get around to fixing the brakes on the trailer.  One axle had
    brake (not plural) and the other axle had no place to put brakes.  No
    problem.  If I am careful brakes on one axle would be adequate.  I
    figured I'd buy two brake assemblies.  Install one and replace the one
    that was still there, so they would be new good chappe and matching.
    Yeah, not a freaking chance.  As near as I can tell nobody anywhere
    makes trailer brake hubs in that configuration anywhere.  The original
    manufacturer is still in business, but they list them as long
    obsolete.   After days of chasing parts, emailing, and calling a new
    axle was the only option.  They are drop axles so just swapping the
    spindles would be problematic.

    I started chasing axles.  Nobody makes an axle in quite the right
    configuration with the same bolt pattern hub either anymore.  So, both
    axles, and new rims... I figured new tires anyway, but still.  It got
    to be a quite expensive purchase.  Two new electric brake drop axles.
    4 tires and rims, assorted hardware.  I found one (JUST ONE) company
    that had something that would fit if I customize it slightly myself.
    They listed them as two plus weeks to ship, so I contacted them to ask
    what two "plus" means in real world time.   The person I chatted with
    assured me they were in fact in stock and would ship within a day or
    two.  On the third full day after I paid for them I asked when they
    would ship. "Oh no.  Those are not in stock.  We have to get them from
    the manufacturer."  To say I was not happy with them would be a little
    bit of an understatement.

    It's been ten days and they were supposed to be delivered today here
    in Yuma between 12:00 and 1:00pm.  They were.  Between 12:00 and 1:00
    Honolulu time.  They definitely were not shipped in 1 to 2 days.  On a
    positive note it hasn't been two plus weeks either.

    So now a week behind schedule I have to put these axles on this trailer.

    Images visible here:  https://www.yumabassman.com/2024/03/21/those-axles/ >>
    If you are going to call me up and tell me how I could have done it
    better faster cheaper... please don't.  I have the new axles now.  I
    may not have checked every possible option, but I spent a lot of time
    chasing down options, and the expensive solution was the best I could
    find.  **

    If you are going to call me up and say you will take those free axles
    f I am going to throw them away... because you are that kind of
    person... don't.  I have plans for those axles on trailers that do not
    require brakes.  Bearings and seals are still available, so they
    should last a long time in a lighter load application as long I as
    repack them, and I don't burn up a bearing so bad it takes out the
    spindle.

    ** Well, there was another option I considered.  I have an old "junk"
    travel trailer with similar drop axles, and the brakes are complete
    all the way around.  I considered jerking them out from under it, and
    setting the frame on blocks so I could use those axles on the
    gooseneck.  It would have been double the work, and they are old too.
    If I needed parts I'd have probably run into the same issues with
    those axles.  I thought it would be faster to just order new axles
    with good complete brakes for the gooseneck.  Yeah, maybe not.  LOL

    I did have one thing sorta go right.  I received a message from Linked
    in yesterday day saying if I took a survey they would give me five
    dollars.  It was a very short survey, and today five dollars appeared in
    my backup PayPal account. **

    I went on Ebay and discovered with tax I could buy something priced at
    4.69 and it came out to exactly 5 dollars.  I bought an automatic center punch.  It would have been cheaper at Harbor Freight, but hey, this was basically free money, and no gas to go get it (free shipping).  I was
    torn between the automatic punch or a receiver hitch pin.

    ** I have two business PayPal accounts.  One for CNC Molds N Stuff, and
    one for my old contracting company.  The Security Consultant.  I let
    them send the money to the older account because its linked to my
    throwaway spam trap email address.  Just in case they figured five bucks
    was a cheap way to harvest an email address they didn't already have.



    Ha! I should have gone for the hitch pin. I'm in the process of making
    a mount on the gooseneck so the 12 ton Warn Winch is easily removable to
    be used on other equipment. I've got the permanent part of the mount
    about half welded onto the trailer.

    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


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