• Re: Identify carbide parting insert?

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Thu Apr 25 16:31:41 2024
    On 4/25/2024 4:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    Since my lathe is old and worn carbide tends to chip easily on it. Today
    I found a used parting holder and some Teledyne MP91M carbide inserts
    that I'd like to learn about. The damaged label appears to show MP91M
    and T?B?TN-21?4 and the inserts are inked MP91M, the holder has no
    markings and may not even be right for them, they seem to fit snugly
    without bottoming in the slot.
    TIA


    Weird. The only MP91M I found look a lot like the TDEX or SEHT used
    mostly in face mills.

    Oh, I also found one that looks like its for a shoulder mill.


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  • From David Billington@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Fri Apr 26 01:08:54 2024
    On 26/04/2024 00:36, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 4:31 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 4:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    Since my lathe is old and worn carbide tends to chip easily on it.
    Today I found a used parting holder and some Teledyne MP91M carbide
    inserts that I'd like to learn about. The damaged label appears to
    show MP91M and T?B?TN-21?4 and the inserts are inked MP91M, the
    holder has no markings and may not even be right for them, they seem
    to fit snugly without bottoming in the slot.
    TIA


    Weird.  The only MP91M I found look a lot like the TDEX or SEHT used
    mostly in face mills.

    Oh, I also found one that looks like its for a shoulder mill.




    Oh, here is one that's a parting insert.  Looks like its from
    Stellram. Now to just figure out if they make the size you need.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/186261864314?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1woCLvQvbRYeGTmhRsksReg23&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=186261864314&targetid=4580909052765420&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=
    603247545&mkgroupid=1236951576251627&rlsatarget=pla-4580909052765420&abcId=9316119&merchantid=51291&msclkid=f64af2bbb3b2192c44f9949154a6058f




    Bob,

    In case you weren't aware of it, you only the URL up to the question
    mark like https://www.ebay.com/itm/186261864314 .

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Thu Apr 25 16:36:19 2024
    On 4/25/2024 4:31 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 4:15 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    Since my lathe is old and worn carbide tends to chip easily on it.
    Today I found a used parting holder and some Teledyne MP91M carbide
    inserts that I'd like to learn about. The damaged label appears to
    show MP91M and T?B?TN-21?4 and the inserts are inked MP91M, the holder
    has no markings and may not even be right for them, they seem to fit
    snugly without bottoming in the slot.
    TIA


    Weird.  The only MP91M I found look a lot like the TDEX or SEHT used
    mostly in face mills.

    Oh, I also found one that looks like its for a shoulder mill.




    Oh, here is one that's a parting insert. Looks like its from Stellram.
    Now to just figure out if they make the size you need.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/186261864314?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1woCLvQvbRYeGTmhRsksReg23&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=186261864314&targetid=4580909052765420&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=603247545&
    mkgroupid=1236951576251627&rlsatarget=pla-4580909052765420&abcId=9316119&merchantid=51291&msclkid=f64af2bbb3b2192c44f9949154a6058f



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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Thu Apr 25 21:20:50 2024
    On 4/25/2024 6:36 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:


    Oh, here is one that's a parting insert.  Looks like its from Stellram.
    Now to just figure out if they make the size you need.




    That insert looks just like the ones for my Shars holder . The holder
    is a Shars P3W x 3/4 , number on the container is 202-9578 . The insert
    package is numbered 404-0416 , might be the Shars part number . They are
    1/8 thick , .562 long and .311 wide at the widest point .

    Snag
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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Fri Apr 26 06:48:27 2024
    On 4/26/2024 5:30 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Snag"  wrote in message news:v0f325$3eot8$1@dont-email.me...

      That insert looks just like the ones for my Shars holder . The holder
    is a Shars P3W x 3/4 , number on the container is 202-9578 . The insert package is numbered 404-0416 , might be the Shars part number . They are
    1/8 thick , .562 long and .311 wide at the widest point .
    Snag

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    Thanks, the picture for 202-9578 shows the insert not bottomed in the
    slot, same as mine, so the inserts should be correct for the holder,
    they were in separate drawers of used tooling from auctions. The series
    is GTN which I can now look up. Google is like magic; you have to know
    the right words.

    Are there any special tricks to using them? With HSS I run below chatter speed and keep the bottom of the groove constantly oiled with a needle dropper bottle.


    No special tricks that I've found . I run them the same way you do
    HSS .
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  • From Hul Tytus@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sat May 4 19:35:50 2024
    One key is to use a releif (sp?) angle of almost zero. If the cutoff tool wants to chatter or
    dig into the work, it runs into itself.

    Hul

    Jim Wilkins <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
    "Snag" wrote in message news:v0f325$3eot8$1@dont-email.me...

    That insert looks just like the ones for my Shars holder . The holder
    is a Shars P3W x 3/4 , number on the container is 202-9578 . The insert package is numbered 404-0416 , might be the Shars part number . They are
    1/8 thick , .562 long and .311 wide at the widest point .
    Snag

    -----------------------------------------
    Thanks, the picture for 202-9578 shows the insert not bottomed in the slot, same as mine, so the inserts should be correct for the holder, they were in separate drawers of used tooling from auctions. The series is GTN which I
    can now look up. Google is like magic; you have to know the right words.

    Are there any special tricks to using them? With HSS I run below chatter speed and keep the bottom of the groove constantly oiled with a needle dropper bottle.

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