• Gauge blocks

    From Snag@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 27 14:35:35 2024
    Am I really going to need to allow for millionths of an inch ? I'm
    looking at an 81 piece set from Shars , a grade B with the deviation
    table for under a hundred bucks . Looks like the biggest variance is
    .000034" , or about a third of a ten thousandth . I can't see any
    project that I might get needing that kind of precision ...
    I'm considering buying the set just because I've kinda wanted some
    and I think they'll get me closer to perfect in my upcoming depth mike
    project . Since they can trace back to a national standard I can also
    use them to check all my other micrometers , none of which have been
    calibrated for at least 40 years , and in some cases longer than that .

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Thu Jun 27 14:56:16 2024
    On 6/27/2024 12:35 PM, Snag wrote:
      Am I really going to need to allow for millionths of an inch ? I'm looking at an 81 piece set from Shars , a grade B with the deviation
    table for under a hundred bucks . Looks like the biggest variance is
    .000034" , or about a third of a ten thousandth . I can't see any
    project that I might get needing that kind of precision ...
      I'm considering buying the set just because I've kinda wanted some
    and I think they'll get me closer to perfect in my upcoming depth mike project . Since they can trace back to a national standard I can also
    use them to check all my other micrometers , none of which have been calibrated for at least 40 years , and in some cases longer than that .


    You will probably be fine. I hardly even use my gage blocks. I just
    CNC machine an angle plate with a stop. I have a cheap B grade set, and
    I miced them (I have Starret standards), and they are as good as I can
    measure except the 4 inch which for some reason is almost exactly 4.001

    I have a set of gage pins too. Most of the time I just use my set of
    drill blanks because its faster and most holes I'm checking are nominal standard sizes anyway. If they aren't I measure them with an inside mic.





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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Thu Jun 27 19:09:28 2024
    On 6/27/2024 5:30 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Snag"  wrote in message news:v5keu4$2sp2r$1@dont-email.me...

      Am I really going to need to allow for millionths of an inch ? I'm looking at an 81 piece set from Shars , a grade B with the deviation
    table for under a hundred bucks . Looks like the biggest variance is
    .000034" , or about a third of a ten thousandth . I can't see any
    project that I might get needing that kind of precision ...
      I'm considering buying the set just because I've kinda wanted some
    and I think they'll get me closer to perfect in my upcoming depth mike project . Since they can trace back to a national standard I can also
    use them to check all my other micrometers , none of which have been calibrated for at least 40 years , and in some cases longer than that .


    I could have done this without them , but I never let an opportunity
    to buy tooling go to waste . Already told the wife , her response was
    "Well , if you need them you need them ." because she knows how much
    money I've saved us over the years by doing repairs to "stuff" .
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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Thu Jun 27 18:56:26 2024
    On 6/27/2024 4:56 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 6/27/2024 12:35 PM, Snag wrote:
       Am I really going to need to allow for millionths of an inch ? I'm
    looking at an 81 piece set from Shars , a grade B with the deviation
    table for under a hundred bucks . Looks like the biggest variance is
    .000034" , or about a third of a ten thousandth . I can't see any
    project that I might get needing that kind of precision ...
       I'm considering buying the set just because I've kinda wanted some
    and I think they'll get me closer to perfect in my upcoming depth mike
    project . Since they can trace back to a national standard I can also
    use them to check all my other micrometers , none of which have been
    calibrated for at least 40 years , and in some cases longer than that .


    You will probably be fine.  I hardly even use my gage blocks.  I just
    CNC machine an angle plate with a stop.  I have a cheap B grade set, and
    I miced them (I have Starret standards), and they are as good as I can measure except the 4 inch which for some reason is almost exactly 4.001

    I have a set of gage pins too.  Most of the time I just use my set of
    drill blanks because its faster and most holes I'm checking are nominal standard sizes anyway.  If they aren't I measure them with an inside mic.






    I'll probably only use them for calibration checks . And only because
    one of these days something I make is going to have to be a pretty
    precise fit for something somebody else makes . Gauge pins are on my
    wish list too . I got a set of thread wires a while back . Haven't used
    them yet but then I haven't needed a precise thread fit . I have a
    couple of projects in mind that will require a fairly precise thread ...
    OBTW , I did order that set of Shars blocks . Under 110 bucks , and
    there's no doubt that if I waited I'd be paying more .
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Thu Jun 27 17:44:41 2024
    On 6/27/2024 4:56 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 6/27/2024 4:56 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 6/27/2024 12:35 PM, Snag wrote:
       Am I really going to need to allow for millionths of an inch ? I'm
    looking at an 81 piece set from Shars , a grade B with the deviation
    table for under a hundred bucks . Looks like the biggest variance is
    .000034" , or about a third of a ten thousandth . I can't see any
    project that I might get needing that kind of precision ...
       I'm considering buying the set just because I've kinda wanted some
    and I think they'll get me closer to perfect in my upcoming depth
    mike project . Since they can trace back to a national standard I can
    also use them to check all my other micrometers , none of which have
    been calibrated for at least 40 years , and in some cases longer than
    that .


    You will probably be fine.  I hardly even use my gage blocks.  I just
    CNC machine an angle plate with a stop.  I have a cheap B grade set,
    and I miced them (I have Starret standards), and they are as good as I
    can measure except the 4 inch which for some reason is almost exactly
    4.001

    I have a set of gage pins too.  Most of the time I just use my set of
    drill blanks because its faster and most holes I'm checking are
    nominal standard sizes anyway.  If they aren't I measure them with an
    inside mic.






    I'll probably only use them for calibration checks . And only because
    one of these days something I make is going to have to be a pretty
    precise fit for something somebody else makes . Gauge pins are on my
    wish list too . I got a set of thread wires a while back . Haven't used
    them yet but then I haven't needed a precise thread fit . I have a
    couple of projects in mind that will require a fairly precise thread ...
      OBTW , I did order that set of Shars blocks . Under 110 bucks , and there's no doubt that if I waited I'd be paying more .

    Yes. Everything always goes up and lately very quickly. I've been
    bringing in some cash the last couple months, so I have been buying
    things I need and stocking up on materials so I'll have it when things inevitably crash again.






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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Thu Jun 27 21:06:45 2024
    On 6/27/2024 7:44 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 6/27/2024 4:56 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 6/27/2024 4:56 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 6/27/2024 12:35 PM, Snag wrote:
       Am I really going to need to allow for millionths of an inch ?
    I'm looking at an 81 piece set from Shars , a grade B with the
    deviation table for under a hundred bucks . Looks like the biggest
    variance is .000034" , or about a third of a ten thousandth . I
    can't see any project that I might get needing that kind of
    precision ...
       I'm considering buying the set just because I've kinda wanted
    some and I think they'll get me closer to perfect in my upcoming
    depth mike project . Since they can trace back to a national
    standard I can also use them to check all my other micrometers ,
    none of which have been calibrated for at least 40 years , and in
    some cases longer than that .


    You will probably be fine.  I hardly even use my gage blocks.  I just
    CNC machine an angle plate with a stop.  I have a cheap B grade set,
    and I miced them (I have Starret standards), and they are as good as
    I can measure except the 4 inch which for some reason is almost
    exactly 4.001

    I have a set of gage pins too.  Most of the time I just use my set of
    drill blanks because its faster and most holes I'm checking are
    nominal standard sizes anyway.  If they aren't I measure them with an
    inside mic.






    I'll probably only use them for calibration checks . And only because
    one of these days something I make is going to have to be a pretty
    precise fit for something somebody else makes . Gauge pins are on my
    wish list too . I got a set of thread wires a while back . Haven't
    used them yet but then I haven't needed a precise thread fit . I have
    a couple of projects in mind that will require a fairly precise thread
    ...
       OBTW , I did order that set of Shars blocks . Under 110 bucks , and
    there's no doubt that if I waited I'd be paying more .

    Yes.  Everything always goes up and lately very quickly.  I've been bringing in some cash the last couple months, so I have been buying
    things I need and stocking up on materials so I'll have it when things inevitably crash again.

    I'm lucky , we're debt-free and have enough in the bank that I can
    pretty much buy what I want within reason . I ain't gonna be buying a
    new Corvette , but if I want a beer ... or a set of gauge blocks . Well ...
    I can see Bad Shit coming down the road . If y'all have read The Mote
    in God's Eye , I'm trying to position our "Holler" as one of those
    warehouses out in the fields . I have a unique position as a volunteer
    with the Friends of the Library which gives me first access to all kinds
    of material that would be useful for rebuilding society ... for free ,
    and one of my neighbors has agreed to host the library .
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Thu Jun 27 19:01:36 2024
    On 6/27/2024 5:59 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Snag"  wrote in message news:v5kuvs$2vope$1@dont-email.me...

      I could have done this without them , but I never let an opportunity
    to buy tooling go to waste .

    ---------------------------
    I rarely pass up on measuring equipment, especially second hand. And sometimes, years later, I really do need it, like a Mitutoyo 146-102
    Groove Micrometer I got cheap from a seller who didn't know what it was,
    and I needed a week or two ago. IIRC I was the only bidder on the gauge
    block set with a couple of common sizes missing. MSC had them for ~$16
    each, accurate to better than 10 microinches.


    I have a Starrett can lid micrometer. Never know when I might need it.
    I could wind up at Libbey chopping green beans and sealing lids. LOL.

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    CNC Molds N Stuff


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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Thu Jun 27 21:29:48 2024
    On 6/27/2024 9:01 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 6/27/2024 5:59 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Snag"  wrote in message news:v5kuvs$2vope$1@dont-email.me...

       I could have done this without them , but I never let an opportunity
    to buy tooling go to waste .

    ---------------------------
    I rarely pass up on measuring equipment, especially second hand. And
    sometimes, years later, I really do need it, like a Mitutoyo 146-102
    Groove Micrometer I got cheap from a seller who didn't know what it
    was, and I needed a week or two ago. IIRC I was the only bidder on the
    gauge block set with a couple of common sizes missing. MSC had them
    for ~$16 each, accurate to better than 10 microinches.


    I have a Starrett can lid micrometer.  Never know when I might need it.
    I could wind up at Libbey chopping green beans and sealing lids.  LOL.


    Ummm , we can green beans ... and tomatoes , and peaches and ... but
    not in tin cans , just Mason (tm?) jars . My paternal grandmother had a "canner" that actually used metal cans . I don't remember details but I
    know she was using metal cans and lids .
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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Thu Jun 27 21:17:09 2024
    On 6/27/2024 7:59 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Snag"  wrote in message news:v5kuvs$2vope$1@dont-email.me...

      I could have done this without them , but I never let an opportunity
    to buy tooling go to waste .

    ---------------------------
    I rarely pass up on measuring equipment, especially second hand. And sometimes, years later, I really do need it, like a Mitutoyo 146-102
    Groove Micrometer I got cheap from a seller who didn't know what it was,
    and I needed a week or two ago. IIRC I was the only bidder on the gauge
    block set with a couple of common sizes missing. MSC had them for ~$16
    each, accurate to better than 10 microinches.


    I'm a Tool Whore ... and she understands me . But after being married
    for over 50 years she's still a mystery to me .
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