1TB Micro SD cards are about $5664 dollars per ounce.

Roughly 28.34 grams per ounce times 2 since its a half gram.

OOPS! Surprised none of you guys called me out for that one.


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On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 09:55:10 -0700
Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

1TB Micro SD cards are about $5664 dollars per ounce.

Roughly 28.34 grams per ounce times 2 since its a half gram.

OOPS! Surprised none of you guys called me out for that one.

The "precise" details weren't important to me. The gist of the
comparisons being made was the point😉️

My Dad use to talk about HF stuff as "That's only a dollar a pound to
buy..." He was enamored with their big 5.5 inch? swivel vise. He'd
order one for ~$30 with free shipping just to see if it was real or
not. I still have two of them. One that's used A LOT. Sold one to a
neighbor that was still boxed up as delivered. I think he gave some
away too...

I'm old enough now to see my own similar hoarding quirks but for
different items😆️

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On 7/12/2025 11:18 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 09:55:10 -0700
Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

1TB Micro SD cards are about $5664 dollars per ounce.

Roughly 28.34 grams per ounce times 2 since its a half gram.

OOPS! Surprised none of you guys called me out for that one.

The "precise" details weren't important to me. The gist of the
comparisons being made was the point😉️

My Dad use to talk about HF stuff as "That's only a dollar a pound to
buy..." He was enamored with their big 5.5 inch? swivel vise. He'd
order one for ~$30 with free shipping just to see if it was real or
not. I still have two of them. One that's used A LOT. Sold one to a
neighbor that was still boxed up as delivered. I think he gave some
away too...

I'm old enough now to see my own similar hoarding quirks but for
different items😆️

I have a Harbor Freight swivel vise. I use it about 50/50/50/5 with the
4" Columbia vise on the back other bench, the smaller Harbor Freight
swivel vise on the front bench, and the Zyliss vise on the machine room
bench.

Seriously its a great universal vise for most casual handyman types, but
the center rotation took a while to get used to. You would think the
bottom jaws would be more use with its pipe jaws, but I haven't used
them in years. Good thing too. One of those internal jaws fell out,
and I have no idea where it is. I'll have to make one before I can use it.

I would say for machine shop secondary work I like the fixed Columbia
best, but not by as much as you might think. I think for most people
who just want to have a vise in case they might need one, the larger
Harbor Freight swivel vise is a lifetime vise.

This one, although from the picture it looks like the pipe jaws are cast
in now instead of a separate part.

https://www.harborfreight.com/5-in-multi-purpose-vise-with-anvil-59275.html

They also have a heavier version for a hundred dollars more in their
Doyle line.

https://www.harborfreight.com/5-in-multipurpose-vise-with-anvil-58157.html

Funny. Except for the paint color (mine is blue) mine looks more like
the Doyle than its name sake Central Machinery current version.



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On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 15:46:16 -0700
Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

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They also have a heavier version for a hundred dollars more in their
Doyle line.

https://www.harborfreight.com/5-in-multipurpose-vise-with-anvil-58157.html

Funny. Except for the paint color (mine is blue) mine looks more like
the Doyle than its name sake Central Machinery current version.

Same here. Looks more like the Doyle...

If you look at the very last picture for the Doyle after clicking the
+3 more button... I took those V-shaped plates off on the bottom off
mine. The ~1/4 inch or so recess for them is good enough for gripping
most wide items with a decent hold. That increases the max-opening by 3
inches on mine. After doing that I probably use the bottom equally with
the top. With the wider opening I often use it to press items in/out
too. The three exposed bolt holes also can be used.

The other one is mounted on a custom 2 inch tube that fits a Reese
style hitch. Tube sticks out maybe 2 ft and then up 2 ft. Besides using
it on a vehicle I figured mounting a 2 inch hitch adapter to something
stout would work with it too.

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On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 12:35:22 -0400
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

"Leon Fisk" wrote in message news:1050fd4$2p0ho$1@dont-email.me...

The other one is mounted on a custom 2 inch tube that fits a Reese
style hitch. Tube sticks out maybe 2 ft and then up 2 ft. Besides using
it on a vehicle I figured mounting a 2 inch hitch adapter to something
stout would work with it too.
Leon Fisk

----------------------------

I should have done that. Mounting the vise close to the bumper put the rear >of the truck at risk of scratches and grinding sparks.

When I was still working in 2-way radio service I had access to a
heated shop you could drive several vehicles into. Their work bench was
a joke and it had a small, maybe 3 inch vise that had been beat to
hell. Bent sliding handle, chewed up jaws and almost a full turn on
the handle to move the jaws. I'd put this vise in the back of my truck
and bring it along when I thought it might be handy for working after
hours on my stuff. Had a cap on my truck so it wasn't obvious in the
bed and out of the weather. It worked nice for those occasions🙂️

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On 7/13/2025 11:44 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 12:35:22 -0400
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

"Leon Fisk" wrote in message news:1050fd4$2p0ho$1@dont-email.me...

The other one is mounted on a custom 2 inch tube that fits a Reese
style hitch. Tube sticks out maybe 2 ft and then up 2 ft. Besides using
it on a vehicle I figured mounting a 2 inch hitch adapter to something
stout would work with it too.
Leon Fisk

----------------------------

I should have done that. Mounting the vise close to the bumper put the rear >> of the truck at risk of scratches and grinding sparks.

When I was still working in 2-way radio service I had access to a
heated shop you could drive several vehicles into. Their work bench was
a joke and it had a small, maybe 3 inch vise that had been beat to
hell. Bent sliding handle, chewed up jaws and almost a full turn on
the handle to move the jaws. I'd put this vise in the back of my truck
and bring it along when I thought it might be handy for working after
hours on my stuff. Had a cap on my truck so it wasn't obvious in the
bed and out of the weather. It worked nice for those occasions🙂️

For you truck vise guys...

1. Harbor freight makes a receiver / draw bar vise already. As do more expensive brands like Wilton.

https://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-hitch-vise-58880.html

2. Harbor fright and others make a simple flat plate bolt on receiver
draw tube. They are cheap, and work great on the bottom of an old
school heavy step bumper even if you can't or don't want to mount a
proper frame mounted receiver, and they also work great under work
benches and welding tables for those who don't want a permanently in the
way vise on their work surfaces.

Cheap: https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/trailers-towing/hitches-receivers/3500-lb-step-bumper-receiver-69673.html

Better:
https://www.harborfreight.com/5000-lb-step-bumper-receiver-69670.html

I suggest in any case add some holes, welded on nuts, and clamping bolts
to the receiver draw tube for making the vise more solid. Receiver
tubes and draw bars are inherently by designed a little loose and sloppy.

For a welding table if you happen to have a piece of draw tube laying
around you can just weld it to the bottom or legs of your welding table
(if you have a real welding table).



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On 7/13/2025 12:20 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

On 7/13/2025 11:44 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 12:35:22 -0400
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

"Leon Fisk"  wrote in message news:1050fd4$2p0ho$1@dont-email.me...

The other one is mounted on a custom 2 inch tube that fits a Reese
style hitch. Tube sticks out maybe 2 ft and then up 2 ft. Besides using
it on a vehicle I figured mounting a 2 inch hitch adapter to something
stout would work with it too.
Leon Fisk

----------------------------

I should have done that. Mounting the vise close to the bumper put
the rear
of the truck at risk of scratches and grinding sparks.

When I was still working in 2-way radio service I had access to a
heated shop you could drive several vehicles into. Their work bench was
a joke and it had a small, maybe 3 inch vise that had been beat to
hell. Bent sliding handle, chewed up jaws and almost a full turn on
the handle to move the jaws. I'd put this vise in the back of my truck
and bring it along when I thought it might be handy for working after
hours on my stuff. Had a cap on my truck so it wasn't obvious in the
bed and out of the weather. It worked nice for those occasions🙂️

For you truck vise guys...

1.  Harbor freight makes a receiver / draw bar vise already.  As do more expensive brands like Wilton.

https://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-hitch-vise-58880.html

2.  Harbor fright and others make a simple flat plate bolt on receiver
draw tube.  They are cheap, and work great on the bottom of an old
school heavy step bumper even if you can't or don't want to mount a
proper frame mounted receiver, and they also work great under work
benches and welding tables for those who don't want a permanently in the
way vise on their work surfaces.

Cheap: https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/trailers-towing/hitches- receivers/3500-lb-step-bumper-receiver-69673.html

Better: https://www.harborfreight.com/5000-lb-step-bumper- receiver-69670.html

I suggest in any case add some holes, welded on nuts, and clamping bolts
to the receiver draw tube for making the vise more solid.  Receiver
tubes and draw bars are inherently by designed a little loose and sloppy.

For a welding table if you happen to have a piece of draw tube laying
around you can just weld it to the bottom or legs of your welding table
(if you have a real welding table).

It occurs to me that using a draw tube mount at a 45 at the corner of
the of the rear of the vehicle might be ideal for working clearance.

This is something I will consider as one of my plans (of which I have
many crazier ones) is to turn an old utility body into a service
trailer. The idea being when a friend (fortunately I only have a few I
would do this for) calls and needs help with a project I can hook it up,
and go. I have duplicates of most tools (maybe all) or triplicates or quadruplicates I would use in the field I can just keep the trailer
loaded and locked up. Only a few things I might take out when not is
use, like one of my OA torch rigs.*

* I now have enough bottles, hoses, and regulators to setup three OA
rigs. I keep two setup now. One in the front of the shop, and one in
the rear. I really don't want a rig to sit out in the sun when not is
use. That's why I probably wouldn't leave one permanently on the trailer.

No I am not planning to get into the handyman business and I definitely
don't plan to get back into contracting. It will just save time when I
do decide to help somebody out, and it will save some space in the shop
or my storage containers.

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