I NEED A REBUILD! I dropped it off at a shop some weeks back , only
to discover recently that the business had changed hands - and the new
owner was not informed about my transmission . We got that straightened
out , and though he doesn't usually work on 700R4's he agreed to do some minor stuff .
 I got a call early this morning ... he found what he considered
excessive amounts of metal "dust" in the oil , and declined to do the
mods I wanted , he recommended a full rebuild . Fortunately there's a
garage here in town that has lots of experience with these and he agreed
to build this one for me . And at a very agreeable price too . So this morning I picked it up from the first guy (and paid him for the shift
kit he ordered in for me , with a few bucks added for his time) and
dropped it off at the other shop .
 An update on the motor - I had the bottom end buttoned up , but was unsure if I had the right bolt for my new high flow oil pump . So I
pulled the pan back off and checked again , and decided that I didn't
have enough thread engagement . I'm now awaiting the arrival of a stud
kit that will engage all the threads in the bearing cap the pump mounts
on . As soon as that is taken care of I'll be bolting the heads on and getting the valves adjusted . I sure hope the light I'm seeing at the
end of the tunnel isn't a train !
On 3/31/2022 7:34 PM, Snag wrote:
  I NEED A REBUILD! I dropped it off at a shop some weeks back , only
to discover recently that the business had changed hands - and the new
owner was not informed about my transmission . We got that
straightened out , and though he doesn't usually work on 700R4's he
agreed to do some minor stuff .
  I got a call early this morning ... he found what he considered
excessive amounts of metal "dust" in the oil , and declined to do the
mods I wanted , he recommended a full rebuild . Fortunately there's a
garage here in town that has lots of experience with these and he
agreed to build this one for me . And at a very agreeable price too .
So this morning I picked it up from the first guy (and paid him for
the shift kit he ordered in for me , with a few bucks added for his
time) and dropped it off at the other shop .
  An update on the motor - I had the bottom end buttoned up , but was
unsure if I had the right bolt for my new high flow oil pump . So I
pulled the pan back off and checked again , and decided that I didn't
have enough thread engagement . I'm now awaiting the arrival of a stud
kit that will engage all the threads in the bearing cap the pump
mounts on . As soon as that is taken care of I'll be bolting the heads
on and getting the valves adjusted . I sure hope the light I'm seeing
at the end of the tunnel isn't a train !
A word of warning. If you have a high flow or high volume oil pump you
may need a larger sump pan so that you do not get a drop in oil pressure
when running at higher RPM or when you rev up the motor. Its something
I ran across in doing some research on putting my dad's old Bronco on
the road again. I recall he had been fighting low oil pressure after
his last rebuild. It has the typical Ford crap idiot gages from that
era, so he put in a direct pressure gage below the dash, and confirmed
it. I recall him saying he had put a high volume oil pump in it, and it doing some Internet sleuthing I ran across a few reference to this as a problem. I don't recall al the details, but it might be a worth a bit of Internet sleuthing of your own.
On 4/2/2022 7:08 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 3/31/2022 7:34 PM, Snag wrote:
  I NEED A REBUILD! I dropped it off at a shop some weeks back ,
only to discover recently that the business had changed hands - and
the new owner was not informed about my transmission . We got that
straightened out , and though he doesn't usually work on 700R4's he
agreed to do some minor stuff .
  I got a call early this morning ... he found what he considered
excessive amounts of metal "dust" in the oil , and declined to do the
mods I wanted , he recommended a full rebuild . Fortunately there's a
garage here in town that has lots of experience with these and he
agreed to build this one for me . And at a very agreeable price too .
So this morning I picked it up from the first guy (and paid him for
the shift kit he ordered in for me , with a few bucks added for his
time) and dropped it off at the other shop .
  An update on the motor - I had the bottom end buttoned up , but
was unsure if I had the right bolt for my new high flow oil pump . So
I pulled the pan back off and checked again , and decided that I
didn't have enough thread engagement . I'm now awaiting the arrival
of a stud kit that will engage all the threads in the bearing cap the
pump mounts on . As soon as that is taken care of I'll be bolting the
heads on and getting the valves adjusted . I sure hope the light I'm
seeing at the end of the tunnel isn't a train !
A word of warning. If you have a high flow or high volume oil pump
you may need a larger sump pan so that you do not get a drop in oil
pressure when running at higher RPM or when you rev up the motor. Its
something I ran across in doing some research on putting my dad's old
Bronco on the road again. I recall he had been fighting low oil
pressure after his last rebuild. It has the typical Ford crap idiot
gages from that era, so he put in a direct pressure gage below the
dash, and confirmed it. I recall him saying he had put a high volume
oil pump in it, and it doing some Internet sleuthing I ran across a
few reference to this as a problem. I don't recall al the details, but
it might be a worth a bit of Internet sleuthing of your own.
 That's something I hadn't considered ... I'm not planning on this
motor seeing much high RPM operation . But I will be watching that oil pressure gauge if I do wind it up ! I'm not sure what to expect , this
motor always ran about 45 PSI except at idle it was around 40 .
On 4/3/2022 5:22 AM, Snag wrote:
On 4/2/2022 7:08 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 3/31/2022 7:34 PM, Snag wrote:
I NEED A REBUILD! I dropped it off at a shop some weeks back ,
only to discover recently that the business had changed hands - and
the new owner was not informed about my transmission . We got that
straightened out , and though he doesn't usually work on 700R4's he
agreed to do some minor stuff .
I got a call early this morning ... he found what he considered
excessive amounts of metal "dust" in the oil , and declined to do the
mods I wanted , he recommended a full rebuild . Fortunately there's a
garage here in town that has lots of experience with these and he
agreed to build this one for me . And at a very agreeable price too .
So this morning I picked it up from the first guy (and paid him for
the shift kit he ordered in for me , with a few bucks added for his
time) and dropped it off at the other shop .
An update on the motor - I had the bottom end buttoned up , but
was unsure if I had the right bolt for my new high flow oil pump . So
I pulled the pan back off and checked again , and decided that I
didn't have enough thread engagement . I'm now awaiting the arrival
of a stud kit that will engage all the threads in the bearing cap the
pump mounts on . As soon as that is taken care of I'll be bolting the
heads on and getting the valves adjusted . I sure hope the light I'm
seeing at the end of the tunnel isn't a train !
A word of warning. If you have a high flow or high volume oil pump
you may need a larger sump pan so that you do not get a drop in oil
pressure when running at higher RPM or when you rev up the motor. Its
something I ran across in doing some research on putting my dad's old
Bronco on the road again. I recall he had been fighting low oil
pressure after his last rebuild. It has the typical Ford crap idiot
gages from that era, so he put in a direct pressure gage below the
dash, and confirmed it. I recall him saying he had put a high volume
oil pump in it, and it doing some Internet sleuthing I ran across a
few reference to this as a problem. I don't recall al the details, but
it might be a worth a bit of Internet sleuthing of your own.
That's something I hadn't considered ... I'm not planning on this
motor seeing much high RPM operation . But I will be watching that oil
pressure gauge if I do wind it up ! I'm not sure what to expect , this
motor always ran about 45 PSI except at idle it was around 40 .
Depending on the year and if you are running the stock Ford gage clusterThat is virtually every Ford olil pressure guage since at leat the
that may have been an idiot gage. A certain range for Ford years didn't >actually show actual oil pressure. They just showed a good appearing
range unless it actually had a serious oil pressure problem. They were
no better than idiot lights.
On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 11:55:44 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 4/3/2022 5:22 AM, Snag wrote:That is virtually every Ford olil pressure guage since at leat the
On 4/2/2022 7:08 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 3/31/2022 7:34 PM, Snag wrote:
  I NEED A REBUILD! I dropped it off at a shop some weeks back , >>>>> only to discover recently that the business had changed hands - and
the new owner was not informed about my transmission . We got that
straightened out , and though he doesn't usually work on 700R4's he
agreed to do some minor stuff .
  I got a call early this morning ... he found what he considered >>>>> excessive amounts of metal "dust" in the oil , and declined to do the >>>>> mods I wanted , he recommended a full rebuild . Fortunately there's a >>>>> garage here in town that has lots of experience with these and he
agreed to build this one for me . And at a very agreeable price too . >>>>> So this morning I picked it up from the first guy (and paid him for
the shift kit he ordered in for me , with a few bucks added for his
time) and dropped it off at the other shop .
  An update on the motor - I had the bottom end buttoned up , but >>>>> was unsure if I had the right bolt for my new high flow oil pump . So >>>>> I pulled the pan back off and checked again , and decided that I
didn't have enough thread engagement . I'm now awaiting the arrival
of a stud kit that will engage all the threads in the bearing cap the >>>>> pump mounts on . As soon as that is taken care of I'll be bolting the >>>>> heads on and getting the valves adjusted . I sure hope the light I'm >>>>> seeing at the end of the tunnel isn't a train !
A word of warning. If you have a high flow or high volume oil pump
you may need a larger sump pan so that you do not get a drop in oil
pressure when running at higher RPM or when you rev up the motor. Its >>>> something I ran across in doing some research on putting my dad's old
Bronco on the road again. I recall he had been fighting low oil
pressure after his last rebuild. It has the typical Ford crap idiot
gages from that era, so he put in a direct pressure gage below the
dash, and confirmed it. I recall him saying he had put a high volume >>>> oil pump in it, and it doing some Internet sleuthing I ran across a
few reference to this as a problem. I don't recall al the details, but >>>> it might be a worth a bit of Internet sleuthing of your own.
 That's something I hadn't considered ... I'm not planning on this
motor seeing much high RPM operation . But I will be watching that oil
pressure gauge if I do wind it up ! I'm not sure what to expect , this
motor always ran about 45 PSI except at idle it was around 40 .
Depending on the year and if you are running the stock Ford gage cluster
that may have been an idiot gage. A certain range for Ford years didn't
actually show actual oil pressure. They just showed a good appearing
range unless it actually had a serious oil pressure problem. They were
no better than idiot lights.
late '80s Grounf the sensor wire and they jump to roughk=ly half scale
(and not ONLY Ford - although I believe they were the first to pull
the stunt.)
On 4/3/2022 5:22 AM, Snag wrote:
On 4/2/2022 7:08 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 3/31/2022 7:34 PM, Snag wrote:
  I NEED A REBUILD! I dropped it off at a shop some weeks back ,
only to discover recently that the business had changed hands - and
the new owner was not informed about my transmission . We got that
straightened out , and though he doesn't usually work on 700R4's he
agreed to do some minor stuff .
  I got a call early this morning ... he found what he considered
excessive amounts of metal "dust" in the oil , and declined to do
the mods I wanted , he recommended a full rebuild . Fortunately
there's a garage here in town that has lots of experience with these
and he agreed to build this one for me . And at a very agreeable
price too . So this morning I picked it up from the first guy (and
paid him for the shift kit he ordered in for me , with a few bucks
added for his time) and dropped it off at the other shop .
  An update on the motor - I had the bottom end buttoned up , but
was unsure if I had the right bolt for my new high flow oil pump .
So I pulled the pan back off and checked again , and decided that I
didn't have enough thread engagement . I'm now awaiting the arrival
of a stud kit that will engage all the threads in the bearing cap
the pump mounts on . As soon as that is taken care of I'll be
bolting the heads on and getting the valves adjusted . I sure hope
the light I'm seeing at the end of the tunnel isn't a train !
A word of warning. If you have a high flow or high volume oil pump
you may need a larger sump pan so that you do not get a drop in oil
pressure when running at higher RPM or when you rev up the motor.
Its something I ran across in doing some research on putting my dad's
old Bronco on the road again. I recall he had been fighting low oil
pressure after his last rebuild. It has the typical Ford crap idiot
gages from that era, so he put in a direct pressure gage below the
dash, and confirmed it. I recall him saying he had put a high volume
oil pump in it, and it doing some Internet sleuthing I ran across a
few reference to this as a problem. I don't recall al the details,
but it might be a worth a bit of Internet sleuthing of your own.
  That's something I hadn't considered ... I'm not planning on this
motor seeing much high RPM operation . But I will be watching that oil
pressure gauge if I do wind it up ! I'm not sure what to expect , this
motor always ran about 45 PSI except at idle it was around 40 .
Depending on the year and if you are running the stock Ford gage cluster
that may have been an idiot gage. A certain range for Ford years didn't actually show actual oil pressure. They just showed a good appearing
range unless it actually had a serious oil pressure problem. They were
no better than idiot lights.
On 4/3/2022 1:55 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 4/3/2022 5:22 AM, Snag wrote:
On 4/2/2022 7:08 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 3/31/2022 7:34 PM, Snag wrote:
  I NEED A REBUILD! I dropped it off at a shop some weeks back ,
only to discover recently that the business had changed hands - and
the new owner was not informed about my transmission . We got that
straightened out , and though he doesn't usually work on 700R4's he
agreed to do some minor stuff .
  I got a call early this morning ... he found what he considered >>>>> excessive amounts of metal "dust" in the oil , and declined to do
the mods I wanted , he recommended a full rebuild . Fortunately
there's a garage here in town that has lots of experience with
these and he agreed to build this one for me . And at a very
agreeable price too . So this morning I picked it up from the first
guy (and paid him for the shift kit he ordered in for me , with a
few bucks added for his time) and dropped it off at the other shop . >>>>> Â Â An update on the motor - I had the bottom end buttoned up , but >>>>> was unsure if I had the right bolt for my new high flow oil pump .
So I pulled the pan back off and checked again , and decided that I
didn't have enough thread engagement . I'm now awaiting the arrival
of a stud kit that will engage all the threads in the bearing cap
the pump mounts on . As soon as that is taken care of I'll be
bolting the heads on and getting the valves adjusted . I sure hope
the light I'm seeing at the end of the tunnel isn't a train !
A word of warning. If you have a high flow or high volume oil pump
you may need a larger sump pan so that you do not get a drop in oil
pressure when running at higher RPM or when you rev up the motor.
Its something I ran across in doing some research on putting my
dad's old Bronco on the road again. I recall he had been fighting
low oil pressure after his last rebuild. It has the typical Ford
crap idiot gages from that era, so he put in a direct pressure gage
below the dash, and confirmed it. I recall him saying he had put a
high volume oil pump in it, and it doing some Internet sleuthing I
ran across a few reference to this as a problem. I don't recall al
the details, but it might be a worth a bit of Internet sleuthing of
your own.
  That's something I hadn't considered ... I'm not planning on this
motor seeing much high RPM operation . But I will be watching that
oil pressure gauge if I do wind it up ! I'm not sure what to expect ,
this motor always ran about 45 PSI except at idle it was around 40 .
Depending on the year and if you are running the stock Ford gage
cluster that may have been an idiot gage. A certain range for Ford
years didn't actually show actual oil pressure. They just showed a
good appearing range unless it actually had a serious oil pressure
problem. They were no better than idiot lights.
 Why would I have Ford cluster in my 1986 GMC pickup ?
On 4/3/2022 1:55 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:GMC does the same thing on many models - do the "grounf test" to know
On 4/3/2022 5:22 AM, Snag wrote:
On 4/2/2022 7:08 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 3/31/2022 7:34 PM, Snag wrote:
I NEED A REBUILD! I dropped it off at a shop some weeks back ,
only to discover recently that the business had changed hands - and
the new owner was not informed about my transmission . We got that
straightened out , and though he doesn't usually work on 700R4's he
agreed to do some minor stuff .
I got a call early this morning ... he found what he considered
excessive amounts of metal "dust" in the oil , and declined to do
the mods I wanted , he recommended a full rebuild . Fortunately
there's a garage here in town that has lots of experience with these >>>>> and he agreed to build this one for me . And at a very agreeable
price too . So this morning I picked it up from the first guy (and
paid him for the shift kit he ordered in for me , with a few bucks
added for his time) and dropped it off at the other shop .
An update on the motor - I had the bottom end buttoned up , but
was unsure if I had the right bolt for my new high flow oil pump .
So I pulled the pan back off and checked again , and decided that I
didn't have enough thread engagement . I'm now awaiting the arrival
of a stud kit that will engage all the threads in the bearing cap
the pump mounts on . As soon as that is taken care of I'll be
bolting the heads on and getting the valves adjusted . I sure hope
the light I'm seeing at the end of the tunnel isn't a train !
A word of warning. If you have a high flow or high volume oil pump
you may need a larger sump pan so that you do not get a drop in oil
pressure when running at higher RPM or when you rev up the motor.
Its something I ran across in doing some research on putting my dad's
old Bronco on the road again. I recall he had been fighting low oil
pressure after his last rebuild. It has the typical Ford crap idiot
gages from that era, so he put in a direct pressure gage below the
dash, and confirmed it. I recall him saying he had put a high volume
oil pump in it, and it doing some Internet sleuthing I ran across a
few reference to this as a problem. I don't recall al the details,
but it might be a worth a bit of Internet sleuthing of your own.
That's something I hadn't considered ... I'm not planning on this
motor seeing much high RPM operation . But I will be watching that oil
pressure gauge if I do wind it up ! I'm not sure what to expect , this
motor always ran about 45 PSI except at idle it was around 40 .
Depending on the year and if you are running the stock Ford gage cluster
that may have been an idiot gage. A certain range for Ford years didn't
actually show actual oil pressure. They just showed a good appearing
range unless it actually had a serious oil pressure problem. They were
no better than idiot lights.
Why would I have Ford cluster in my 1986 GMC pickup ?
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