• Brush suppliers

    From David Lesher@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 10 16:46:46 2022
    I need a brush for the motor in a Rigid-branded shopvac.

    It's 250 mils by 318 mils, and about an inch long with braided
    tail out the end. The holder has the spring so the brush does
    not need one.

    I found one supplier of something close but they had a $35
    minimum order charge.

    Any suggestions?

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Sun Apr 10 13:52:53 2022
    On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:46:46 -0000 (UTC)
    David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:

    I need a brush for the motor in a Rigid-branded shopvac.

    It's 250 mils by 318 mils, and about an inch long with braided
    tail out the end. The holder has the spring so the brush does
    not need one.

    I found one supplier of something close but they had a $35
    minimum order charge.

    Any suggestions?

    Have you tried Ebay?

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=carbon%20brushes%20vacuum%20motor

    or if you're lucky...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/303457936903

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 10 13:23:02 2022
    "David Lesher" wrote in message news:t2v1lm$89i$1@reader1.panix.com...

    I need a brush for the motor in a Rigid-branded shopvac.

    It's 250 mils by 318 mils, and about an inch long with braided
    tail out the end. The holder has the spring so the brush does
    not need one.

    I found one supplier of something close but they had a $35
    minimum order charge.

    Any suggestions?

    --------------------------

    If you can't find the right size, a larger brush with a suitable wire connection can be trimmed. down with a razor saw and sandpaper. They can be
    cut to size more accurately on a milling machine as long as the cut is into
    or parallel to the brush edge, it will chip if the cutter exits an edge.

    Buy brushes meant for 120V use, battery tool brushes may have different properties.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sun Apr 10 14:18:23 2022
    On 4/10/2022 10:23 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "David Lesher"  wrote in message news:t2v1lm$89i$1@reader1.panix.com...

    I need a brush for the motor in a Rigid-branded shopvac.

    It's 250 mils by 318 mils, and about an inch long with braided
    tail out the end. The holder has the spring so the brush does
    not need one.

    I found one supplier of something close but they had a $35
    minimum order charge.

    Any suggestions?

    --------------------------

    If you can't find the right size, a larger brush with a suitable wire connection can be trimmed. down with a razor saw and sandpaper. They can
    be cut to size more accurately on a milling machine as long as the cut
    is into or parallel to the brush edge, it will chip if the cutter exits
    an edge.

    Buy brushes meant for 120V use, battery tool brushes may have different properties.



    ie: Climb cut around the edges, and if possible use a mill with a 45
    degree corner chamfer.

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  • From Clare Snyder@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 11 00:12:18 2022
    On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:18:23 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 4/10/2022 10:23 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "David Lesher"  wrote in message news:t2v1lm$89i$1@reader1.panix.com...

    I need a brush for the motor in a Rigid-branded shopvac.

    It's 250 mils by 318 mils, and about an inch long with braided
    tail out the end. The holder has the spring so the brush does
    not need one.

    I found one supplier of something close but they had a $35
    minimum order charge.

    Any suggestions?

    --------------------------

    If you can't find the right size, a larger brush with a suitable wire
    connection can be trimmed. down with a razor saw and sandpaper. They can
    be cut to size more accurately on a milling machine as long as the cut
    is into or parallel to the brush edge, it will chip if the cutter exits
    an edge.

    Buy brushes meant for 120V use, battery tool brushes may have different
    properties.



    ie: Climb cut around the edges, and if possible use a mill with a 45
    degree corner chamfer.
    Isthere no authorized service depot for Ridgid tools? The part should
    be available. Or check a local vacuum shop. Unless it is total CRAP
    there should be parts available. Around here I'd head to RMW electric
    or Scheils electric and have them check their stock -definitely want
    brushes for 120 volt AC motor if at all possible

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Mon Apr 11 01:39:35 2022
    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    "David Lesher" wrote in message news:t2v1lm$89i$1@reader1.panix.com...

    I need a brush for the motor in a Rigid-branded shopvac.

    It's 250 mils by 318 mils, and about an inch long with braided
    tail out the end. The holder has the spring so the brush does
    not need one.

    I found one supplier of something close but they had a $35
    minimum order charge.

    Any suggestions?

    --------------------------

    If you can't find the right size, a larger brush with a suitable wire connection can be trimmed. down with a razor saw and sandpaper. They can be cut to size more accurately on a milling machine as long as the cut is into or parallel to the brush edge, it will chip if the cutter exits an edge.

    My Land Rover generator died once when I was 400 miles from home. I
    had tools, found a place to work on it half an hour before store
    closing time. Found too-large brushes at Canadian Tire in a bin of
    loose odd parts that I filed to fit. They worked and lasted the life
    of the vehicle.

    Maybe I'm just lucky. In a Datsun pickup in Maine in a snow storm,
    engine began to miss badly. Visible cascade of sparks running down
    over the coil tower. Only service station in town, about to close,
    didn't have a coil on hand but they let me use a spray can of some
    kind of electric-resistant lacquer. Scraped the burned track on the
    tower, sprayed it and made 500 miles home. The truck owner later told
    me it, too, lasted the life of the vehicle.

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  • From Bob Engelhardt@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Mon Apr 11 09:00:57 2022
    On 4/10/2022 12:46 PM, David Lesher wrote:
    I need a brush for the motor in a Rigid-branded shopvac.

    It's 250 mils by 318 mils, and about an inch long with braided
    tail out the end. The holder has the spring so the brush does
    not need one.

    I found one supplier of something close but they had a $35
    minimum order charge.

    Any suggestions?



    Ridgid is a popular brand and there must be parts suppliers for it.
    Unless it's a long-out-of-production model. Googling Ridgid parts
    returns lots of sources. Even Amazon has Rigid parts.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Clare Snyder on Mon Apr 11 10:27:10 2022
    On 4/10/2022 9:12 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:18:23 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 4/10/2022 10:23 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "David Lesher"  wrote in message news:t2v1lm$89i$1@reader1.panix.com... >>>
    I need a brush for the motor in a Rigid-branded shopvac.

    It's 250 mils by 318 mils, and about an inch long with braided
    tail out the end. The holder has the spring so the brush does
    not need one.

    I found one supplier of something close but they had a $35
    minimum order charge.

    Any suggestions?

    --------------------------

    If you can't find the right size, a larger brush with a suitable wire
    connection can be trimmed. down with a razor saw and sandpaper. They can >>> be cut to size more accurately on a milling machine as long as the cut
    is into or parallel to the brush edge, it will chip if the cutter exits
    an edge.

    Buy brushes meant for 120V use, battery tool brushes may have different
    properties.



    ie: Climb cut around the edges, and if possible use a mill with a 45
    degree corner chamfer.
    Isthere no authorized service depot for Ridgid tools? The part should
    be available. Or check a local vacuum shop. Unless it is total CRAP
    there should be parts available. Around here I'd head to RMW electric
    or Scheils electric and have them check their stock -definitely want
    brushes for 120 volt AC motor if at all possible


    Ridgid Power tools is Home Depot. They play all kinds of games with
    warranty and service. You can't walk in to a Home Depot anywhere and
    buy parts or drop off a warranty repair. Not even the ones where the
    repair center is located. I quit buying Ridgid power tools because of
    this total unadulterated bullshit. I had a brand new out of the box
    Ridgid router my wife bought for her router table with a stuck switch
    that was so tight it required a screw driver wedged in the housing to
    turn it on and off. They jerked me around in just trying to register
    the tool (has to be registered) for weeks. Their registration system
    didn't seem to work and my internet security software went into full on
    battle mode trying to protect my computer from their cookies and
    scripts. When push came to shove it would cost me nearly as much to
    jump through the hoops and ship the router to their authorized repair
    center (insured of course) as to replace the router. I bought my wife a
    Porter Cable to replace it instead.

    I was a contractor, and I bought a lot of Ridgid power tools before
    that. My first Ridgid power tool was a contractor's table saw that was unbelievably good. A buddy and I did take the time to put it together
    "right" so I am sure that was part of it, but its been very good. I
    think that was close to 20 years ago. I bought my wife a Ridgid
    vertical bandsaw for Christmas one year (she used to make doll houses)
    and its been excellent. I've had it for atleast 15 years. I've got a
    few other Ridgid power tools I bought because of those experiences, but
    no more. The other thing is now often in the stores I see other brands
    that don't have a "screw you 'trick' lifetime warranty" with larger
    machines and better features for around the same price. Brands I know I
    can buy parts for online.

    So factory direct repair parts may be difficult, I finally need to redo
    the fence on my table saw and I won't even ask Home Depot for parts.
    I'll either follow Jeremey Schmidt's (talented builder/YouTuber) example
    to build my own or I'll spend real money on something like an Incra.

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Mon Apr 11 13:55:14 2022
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 10:27:10 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    So factory direct repair parts may be difficult, I finally need to redo
    the fence on my table saw and I won't even ask Home Depot for parts.

    Home Depot is working on activation too :(

    ===
    The Home Depot is trying a new approach when it comes to stopping what
    they say has become a huge problem. Individuals or a team walking into
    a store, grabbing a stack of power tools, and then head straight out
    the front of the store. Officials say another method people are using
    is to ring up a few smaller items in the self checkout lane to mask the
    crime. The store's corporate security says several criminals will
    repeat the crime at the same store or other locations.

    Home Depot says their new anti-theft strategy is now being used in
    several stores nationwide to combat the thefts of their most popular
    power tools. A chip is inserted into power tools of major brands like
    DeWalt and Milwaukee brand tools, similar to how gift cards need to be
    scanned and paid for at a store to activate. Once the tools are paid
    for, the store will use Bluetooth technology to activate the tool.

    Company officials believe this will cut down on tool thefts, its just
    to early to tell just how much.
    ===

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/home-depot-to-use-bluetooth-technology-to-stop-theft/ar-AAMsoEp

    Plus both Milwaukee and Dewalt are adding bluetooth with user tracking,
    kill and probably more to power tools also:

    ===
    Contractor Tool Tracking System: Milwaukee® ONE-KEY™
    onekey.milwaukeetool.com/Tool-Tracking
    Contractor Tool Tracking System: Milwaukee® ONE-KEY™ One-Key Works for
    You Get Started—It's Free Digital Inventory Tool Tracking Crew
    Management Places Management Connected Tools Tool and equipment
    tracking built for the trades Nothing wreaks havoc on productivity and
    profits like stolen and misplaced equipment.

    Tool Connect™ | Dewalt
    www.dewalt.com/systems/tool-connect
    Optimize the jobsite with DEWALT® TOOL CONNECT™. With the power to
    track tools and equipment, you can finish the job on time and on
    budget. CONSTRUCTION INVENTORY MANAGEMENT Improve productivity with a
    seamless tracking solution. Get real-time updates from the field,
    create assignments, and automate reports from one scalable app.
    ===

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Leon Fisk on Mon Apr 11 11:14:28 2022
    On 4/11/2022 10:55 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 10:27:10 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    So factory direct repair parts may be difficult, I finally need to redo
    the fence on my table saw and I won't even ask Home Depot for parts.

    Home Depot is working on activation too :(

    ===
    The Home Depot is trying a new approach when it comes to stopping what
    they say has become a huge problem. Individuals or a team walking into
    a store, grabbing a stack of power tools, and then head straight out
    the front of the store. Officials say another method people are using
    is to ring up a few smaller items in the self checkout lane to mask the crime. The store's corporate security says several criminals will
    repeat the crime at the same store or other locations.

    Home Depot says their new anti-theft strategy is now being used in
    several stores nationwide to combat the thefts of their most popular
    power tools. A chip is inserted into power tools of major brands like
    DeWalt and Milwaukee brand tools, similar to how gift cards need to be scanned and paid for at a store to activate. Once the tools are paid
    for, the store will use Bluetooth technology to activate the tool.

    Company officials believe this will cut down on tool thefts, its just
    to early to tell just how much.
    ===

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/home-depot-to-use-bluetooth-technology-to-stop-theft/ar-AAMsoEp

    Plus both Milwaukee and Dewalt are adding bluetooth with user tracking,
    kill and probably more to power tools also:

    ===
    Contractor Tool Tracking System: Milwaukee® ONE-KEY™
    onekey.milwaukeetool.com/Tool-Tracking
    Contractor Tool Tracking System: Milwaukee® ONE-KEY™ One-Key Works for
    You Get Started—It's Free Digital Inventory Tool Tracking Crew
    Management Places Management Connected Tools Tool and equipment
    tracking built for the trades Nothing wreaks havoc on productivity and profits like stolen and misplaced equipment.

    Tool Connect™ | Dewalt
    www.dewalt.com/systems/tool-connect
    Optimize the jobsite with DEWALT® TOOL CONNECT™. With the power to
    track tools and equipment, you can finish the job on time and on
    budget. CONSTRUCTION INVENTORY MANAGEMENT Improve productivity with a seamless tracking solution. Get real-time updates from the field,
    create assignments, and automate reports from one scalable app.
    ===



    You know its about creating a forced tool replacement. I don't care
    what lie they tell to justify it.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Mon Apr 11 11:17:53 2022
    On 4/11/2022 11:14 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 4/11/2022 10:55 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 10:27:10 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    So factory direct repair parts may be difficult,  I finally need to redo >>> the fence on my table saw and I won't even ask Home Depot for parts.

    Home Depot is working on activation too :(

    ===
    The Home Depot is trying a new approach when it comes to stopping what
    they say has become a huge problem. Individuals or a team walking into
    a store, grabbing a stack of power tools, and then head straight out
    the front of the store. Officials say another method people are using
    is to ring up a few smaller items in the self checkout lane to mask the
    crime. The store's corporate security says several criminals  will
    repeat the crime at the same store or other locations.

    Home Depot says their new anti-theft strategy is now being used in
    several stores nationwide to combat the thefts of their most popular
    power tools. A chip is inserted into power tools of major brands like
    DeWalt and Milwaukee brand tools, similar to how gift cards need to be
    scanned and paid for at a store to activate.  Once the tools are paid
    for,  the store will use  Bluetooth technology  to activate the tool.

    Company officials believe this will cut down on tool thefts, its just
    to early to tell just how much.
    ===

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/home-depot-to-use-bluetooth-technology-to-stop-theft/ar-AAMsoEp


    Plus both Milwaukee and Dewalt are adding bluetooth with user tracking,
    kill and probably more to power tools also:

    ===
    Contractor Tool Tracking System: Milwaukee® ONE-KEY™
      onekey.milwaukeetool.com/Tool-Tracking
    Contractor Tool Tracking System: Milwaukee® ONE-KEY™ One-Key Works for
    You Get Started—It's Free Digital Inventory Tool Tracking Crew
    Management Places Management Connected Tools Tool and equipment
    tracking built for the trades Nothing wreaks havoc on productivity and
    profits like stolen and misplaced equipment.

    Tool Connect™ | Dewalt
      www.dewalt.com/systems/tool-connect
    Optimize the jobsite with DEWALT® TOOL CONNECT™. With the power to
    track tools and equipment, you can finish the job on time and on
    budget. CONSTRUCTION INVENTORY MANAGEMENT Improve productivity with a
    seamless tracking solution. Get real-time updates from the field,
    create assignments, and automate reports from one scalable app.
    ===



    You know its about creating a forced tool replacement.  I don't care
    what lie they tell to justify it.



    They have watched automakers and cellphone makers get away with this
    bullshit, and they said, "Hey lets get on board." Deliberately making
    changes to actively prevent repair (among other things) and then phasing
    out all repair at the absolute minimum allowed by law (and sometimes not
    even that long). Be a good little consumer and buy your replacement on schedule or walk.



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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Leon Fisk on Mon Apr 11 11:57:30 2022
    On 4/11/2022 11:51 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:17:53 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    They have watched automakers and cellphone makers get away with this
    bullshit, and they said, "Hey lets get on board." Deliberately making
    changes to actively prevent repair (among other things) and then phasing
    out all repair at the absolute minimum allowed by law (and sometimes not
    even that long). Be a good little consumer and buy your replacement on
    schedule or walk.

    Yeah, we still don't have a nationwide right to repair bill :(

    https://www.repair.org/stand-up/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_repair

    "The right to repair refers to proposed government legislation that
    would allow consumers the ability to repair and modify their own
    consumer products (e.g. electronic, automotive devices or farm vehicles
    such as tractors), where otherwise the manufacturer of such products
    requires the consumer to use only their offered services by restricting access to tools and components, or software barriers put in place to
    hinder independent repair or modification. These obstacles often lead
    to higher consumer costs or drive consumers to replace devices instead
    of repairing them. While the global community is concerned over the continuously growing size of the waste stream (especially electronic components), the primary debate over the right to repair has been
    centered on the United States and within the European Union..."



    ... and tractors. When a farmer can't get a 3/4 million dollar combined
    fixed until after his crop has rotted on the stem there is a problem.

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Mon Apr 11 14:51:58 2022
    On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:17:53 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    They have watched automakers and cellphone makers get away with this >bullshit, and they said, "Hey lets get on board." Deliberately making >changes to actively prevent repair (among other things) and then phasing
    out all repair at the absolute minimum allowed by law (and sometimes not
    even that long). Be a good little consumer and buy your replacement on >schedule or walk.

    Yeah, we still don't have a nationwide right to repair bill :(

    https://www.repair.org/stand-up/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_repair

    "The right to repair refers to proposed government legislation that
    would allow consumers the ability to repair and modify their own
    consumer products (e.g. electronic, automotive devices or farm vehicles
    such as tractors), where otherwise the manufacturer of such products
    requires the consumer to use only their offered services by restricting
    access to tools and components, or software barriers put in place to
    hinder independent repair or modification. These obstacles often lead
    to higher consumer costs or drive consumers to replace devices instead
    of repairing them. While the global community is concerned over the continuously growing size of the waste stream (especially electronic components), the primary debate over the right to repair has been
    centered on the United States and within the European Union..."

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    Grand Rapids MI

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