Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers, and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free >association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the U.S. were >fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is this
really going to happen?
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 01:17:19 -0700, Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers,
and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free
association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the
U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing
Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time.
The only other possibility is
if Russia were to implode.
That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is this
really going to happen?
It's all so predictable.
Donor fatigue will set in, (it's costing the US and UK trillions),
the "climate change" cult will grow and grow and
displace any concern over Russia,
the Russians will get smarter,
and the Ukranian Oligarch what's-'is-name
will be overthrown by some
well-paid Russian sympathizer.
On Mon, 24 Jul 2023 08:56:48 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 01:17:19 -0700, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers,
and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free
association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the
U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing
Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time.
Just like they did with Georgia eh ?
The only other possibility is
if Russia were to implode.
Or they give up, just like they did with Georgia.
That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is this
really going to happen?
It's all so predictable.
We'll see...
Donor fatigue will set in, (it's costing the US and UK trillions),
Not really. They are mostly sending obsolete
stuff that they are in the process of scrapping.
the "climate change" cult will grow and grow and
displace any concern over Russia,
Fantasy.
the Russians will get smarter,
Just like they did in Georgia, eh ?
and the Ukranian Oligarch what's-'is-name
Just more of your mindless pig ignorant drivel
will be overthrown by some
well-paid Russian sympathizer.
Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers,
and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in
free
association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the
U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing
Baja. Russia will just take more and more of Ukraine over time.
Just like they did with Georgia eh ?
The past does not predict the future.
Ukraine is a better catch anyway.
Read the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk
The only other possibility is
if Russia were to implode.
Or they give up, just like they did with Georgia.
That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is this
really going to happen?
It's all so predictable.
We'll see...
Donor fatigue will set in, (it's costing the US and UK trillions),
Not really. They are mostly sending obsolete
stuff that they are in the process of scrapping.
the "climate change" cult will grow and grow and
displace any concern over Russia,
Fantasy.
In the good old days mad scientists cooked up monsters, bombs and
noxious gases. These days they obsess over hot weather.
Clearly
the universities are disgorging too many boffins.
Publish or Perish?
the Russians will get smarter,
Just like they did in Georgia, eh ?
and the Ukranian Oligarch what's-'is-name
Just more of your mindless pig ignorant drivel
It is not drivel, ignorance, pig or otherwise.
will be overthrown by some
well-paid Russian sympathizer.
Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
How rude. I know nothing of fairies.
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers, and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is this
really going to happen?
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers, and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is this
really going to happen?
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:54:27 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
If you want the truth it's all here!
Robert F Kennedy Jr. <https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1691228480556429312?fbclid=IwAR0sgLVbBtYWG6YLrCZZGhq_uIcOzoRyUCy8JMfHRXlXOD_JZLwxr3hSb0g>
https://tinyurl.com/2clayovn
Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle
23:24 in video
The Crimean population is largely Russian
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 08:45:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:54:27 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
If you want the truth it's all here!
Bullshit it is. That fool has never ever had a fucking clue about anything.
Robert F Kennedy Jr.
<https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1691228480556429312?fbclid=IwAR0sgLVbBtYWG6YLrCZZGhq_uIcOzoRyUCy8JMfHRXlXOD_JZLwxr3hSb0g>
https://tinyurl.com/2clayovn
Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle
23:24 in video
The Crimean population is largely Russian
BULLSHIT
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:01:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 08:45:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:54:27 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >>>> Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
If you want the truth it's all here!
Bullshit it is. That fool has never ever had a fucking clue about
anything.
"What is truth"?
Yours???
Robert F Kennedy Jr.
<https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1691228480556429312?fbclid=IwAR0sgLVbBtYWG6YLrCZZGhq_uIcOzoRyUCy8JMfHRXlXOD_JZLwxr3hSb0g>
https://tinyurl.com/2clayovn
Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle
23:24 in video
The Crimean population is largely Russian
BULLSHIT
It was in 2013
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea#:~:text=82%25%20Russian,3%25%20Russian%20and%20Ukrainian%20equally>
https://tinyurl.com/28xq4rz7
82% Russian
10% Crimean Tatar
3% Russian and Ukrainian equally
3% Russian and another language equally
2% Ukrainian
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:40:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:01:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 08:45:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:54:27 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >>>>> Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
If you want the truth it's all here!
Bullshit it is. That fool has never ever had a fucking clue about
anything.
"What is truth"?
Yours???
What actually happened, fuckwit.
Robert F Kennedy Jr.
<https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1691228480556429312?fbclid=IwAR0sgLVbBtYWG6YLrCZZGhq_uIcOzoRyUCy8JMfHRXlXOD_JZLwxr3hSb0g>
https://tinyurl.com/2clayovn
Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle
23:24 in video
The Crimean population is largely Russian
BULLSHIT
It was in 2013
BULLSHIT.
?<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea#:~:text=82%25%20Russian,3%25%20Russian%20and%20Ukrainian%20equally>
https://tinyurl.com/28xq4rz7
82% Russian
10% Crimean Tatar
3% Russian and Ukrainian equally
3% Russian and another language equally
2% Ukrainian
Pity about the 2001 census, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:28:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:40:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:01:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 08:45:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:54:27 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist >>>>>>>> and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far >>>>>>>> away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. >>>>>>>> It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going >>>>>>>> to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if
Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
If you want the truth it's all here!
Bullshit it is. That fool has never ever had a fucking clue about
anything.
"What is truth"?
Yours???
What actually happened, fuckwit.
References would be nice
Robert F Kennedy Jr.
<https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1691228480556429312?fbclid=IwAR0sgLVbBtYWG6YLrCZZGhq_uIcOzoRyUCy8JMfHRXlXOD_JZLwxr3hSb0g>
https://tinyurl.com/2clayovn
Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle >>>>>
23:24 in video
The Crimean population is largely Russian
BULLSHIT
It was in 2013
BULLSHIT.
According to census it was?
?<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea#:~:text=82%25%20Russian,3%25%20Russian%20and%20Ukrainian%20equally>
https://tinyurl.com/28xq4rz7
82% Russian
10% Crimean Tatar
3% Russian and Ukrainian equally
3% Russian and another language equally
2% Ukrainian
Pity about the 2001 census, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit
artist
The Russians invaded Crimea in 2014? <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation>
On 30/08/2023 10:54 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
:-)) Now Daniel, you really should stop your habit of throwing out
baited lines to loony trolls.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
On 30/08/2023 10:54 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
:-)) Now Daniel, you really should stop your habit of throwing out
baited lines to loony trolls.
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers, and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free
association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is this
really going to happen?
c
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:40:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:01:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 08:45:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:54:27 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >>>>> Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
If you want the truth it's all here!
Bullshit it is. That fool has never ever had a fucking clue about
anything.
"What is truth"?
Yours???
What actually happened, fuckwit.
Robert F Kennedy Jr.
<https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1691228480556429312?fbclid=IwAR0sgLVbBtYWG6YLrCZZGhq_uIcOzoRyUCy8JMfHRXlXOD_JZLwxr3hSb0g>
https://tinyurl.com/2clayovn
Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle
23:24 in video
The Crimean population is largely Russian
BULLSHIT
It was in 2013
BULLSHIT.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea#:~:text=82%25%20Russian,3%25%20Russian%20and%20Ukrainian%20equally>
https://tinyurl.com/28xq4rz7
82% Russian
10% Crimean Tatar
3% Russian and Ukrainian equally
3% Russian and another language equally
2% Ukrainian
Pity about the 2001 census, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers,
and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free
association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the
U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing
Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other
possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war,
and is this
really going to happen?
c
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.
If the west could top the
Ukrainian one, peace would break out.
Fran wrote on 31/8/23 1:23 pm:
On 30/08/2023 10:54 pm, Daniel65 wrote:But ...!! But ..!! But..!! ;-P
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
:-)) Now Daniel, you really should stop your habit of throwing out
baited lines to loony trolls.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go
back to their own country if they like?
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:28:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:40:32 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:Russians were in majority then also
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:01:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 08:45:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:54:27 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist >>>>>>>> and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far >>>>>>>> away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. >>>>>>>> It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going >>>>>>>> to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if
Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
If you want the truth it's all here!
Bullshit it is. That fool has never ever had a fucking clue about
anything.
"What is truth"?
Yours???
What actually happened, fuckwit.
Robert F Kennedy Jr.
<https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1691228480556429312?fbclid=IwAR0sgLVbBtYWG6YLrCZZGhq_uIcOzoRyUCy8JMfHRXlXOD_JZLwxr3hSb0g>
https://tinyurl.com/2clayovn
Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle >>>>>
23:24 in video
The Crimean population is largely Russian
BULLSHIT
It was in 2013
BULLSHIT.
12% less Russians in 2001, from 2013.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea#:~:text=82%25%20Russian,3%25%20Russian%20and%20Ukrainian%20equally>
https://tinyurl.com/28xq4rz7
82% Russian
10% Crimean Tatar
3% Russian and Ukrainian equally
3% Russian and another language equally
2% Ukrainian
Pity about the 2001 census, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit
artist
According to the (2001 census), the ethnic makeup of Crimea's
population consisted of the following self-reported groups:
Russians:1.492 million (67.9%), Ukrainians: 344,515 (15.7%), Crimean
Tatars: 245,000 (12.6%), Belarusians: 35,000 (1.4%), other Tatars:
13,500 (0.5%), Armenians: 10,000 (0.4%), and Jews: 5,500 (0.2%).
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:13:38 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers,
and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free >>>> association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the
U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing
Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other
possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war,
and is this
really going to happen?
c
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.
Zalinskyy isnt an oligarch.
If the west could top the
Ukrainian one, peace would break out.
Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and
that'ssaying something.
On 31/08/2023 7:36 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Fran wrote on 31/8/23 1:23 pm:
On 30/08/2023 10:54 pm, Daniel65 wrote:But ...!! But ..!! But..!! ;-P
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
:-)) Now Daniel, you really should stop your habit of throwing out
baited lines to loony trolls.
I know. I too am guilty of playing with trolls but you and I both know
that doing so is a total waste of time and we also both know that you
won't get a logical or reasoned response to your questions.
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:13:38 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com>
wrote:
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.
Zalinskyy isnt an oligarch.
Rod Speed wrote on 1/9/23 9:52 am:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:13:38 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com>
wrote:
<Snip>
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.Zalinskyy isnt an oligarch.
Yeah! I thought he had been a stage performer previously .... Comedian, maybe!
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:52:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:13:38 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers, >>>>> and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in
free
association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the >>>>> U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing >>>>> Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other
possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, >>>>> and is this
really going to happen?
c
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.
Zalinskyy isnt an oligarch.
Yes, he was.
They're all the same.
If the west could top the Ukrainian one, peace would break out.
Have you ever read a history book?
Have you ever read a book?
Wars are about leaders & personalities.
Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and
that'ssaying something.
T'was a little boy who saw the naked emperor.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go
back to their own country if they like?
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:52:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and
that'ssaying something.
T'was a little boy who saw the naked emperor.
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 19:19:10 +1000, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> >wrote:
Rod Speed wrote on 1/9/23 9:52 am:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:13:38 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com>
wrote:
<Snip>
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.Zalinskyy isnt an oligarch.
Yeah! I thought he had been a stage performer previously .... Comedian,
maybe!
Yep, right on both counts.
Peter Jason wrote on 1/9/23 2:39 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:52:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
<Snip>
Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and
that'ssaying something.
T'was a little boy who saw the naked emperor.
So was this the start of Kiddy-fiddling?? ;-P
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.
Zalinskyy isnt an oligarch.
Yeah! I thought he had been a stage performer previously .... Comedian,
maybe!
Yep, right on both counts.
& Hitler was a painter.
Amateurs running things?
Well you know what happens.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go
back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??) about
15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??) about
15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
Yep. He had moved to Oz as a child with his family but never bothered
to take out citizenship. Big mistake on his part.
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.
Zalinskyy isnt an oligarch.
Yeah! I thought he had been a stage performer previously .... Comedian, >>>> maybe!
Yep, right on both counts.
& Hitler was a painter.
He was also a soldier.
Amateurs running things?
Everyone has to be an amateur sometime.
Well you know what happens.
Everyone has to be an amateur sometime.
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.
Zelenskyy isnt an oligarch.
Yeah! I thought he had been a stage performer previously ....
Comedian, maybe!
Yep, right on both counts.
& Hitler was a painter.
He was also a soldier.
But no politician.
Amateurs running things?
Everyone has to be an amateur sometime.
You can't weasel out that easy.
Well you know what happens.
Everyone has to be an amateur sometime.
You can't weasel out like that.
Napoleon was an amateur in his cradle.
On 31/08/2023 10:33 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go
back to their own country if they like?
As expected Daniel. The troll gives you a whataboutist response.....
Next time you either need to use better bait or choose a better class of troll.
On 31/08/2023 7:36 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Fran wrote on 31/8/23 1:23 pm:
On 30/08/2023 10:54 pm, Daniel65 wrote:But ...!! But ..!! But..!! ;-P
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
:-)) Now Daniel, you really should stop your habit of throwing out
baited lines to loony trolls.
I know. I too am guilty of playing with trolls but you and I both know
that doing so is a total waste of time and we also both know that you
won't get a logical or reasoned response to your questions.
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:13:38 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers,
and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free >>>> association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the
U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing
Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other
possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war,
and is this
really going to happen?
c
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.
Zalinskyy isnt an oligarch.
If the west could top the
Ukrainian one, peace would break out.
Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and
that'ssaying something.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go
back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??) about
15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
On 1/09/2023 7:32 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >>>> Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go
back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??) about
15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
Yep. He had moved to Oz as a child with his family but never bothered
to take out citizenship. Big mistake on his part.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers, and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in free
association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is this
really going to happen?
c
It's a brawl between two oligarchs. If the west could top the
Ukrainian one, peace would break out.
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:52:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:13:38 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:33:56 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro powers, >>>>> and not with
countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine will be in EU, and in
free
association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and
fight Russia,
because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away
from Russia
like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. It's like if the >>>>> U.S. were
fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to stop the U.S. from annexing >>>>> Baja. Russia
will just take more and more of Ukraine over time. The only other
possibility is
if Russia were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, >>>>> and is this
really going to happen?
c
It's a brawl between two oligarchs.
Zalinskyy isnt an oligarch.
? You sure
he was funded by Obama with US$5 billion in a "election for peace".
US$Trillions disappear to him since the "war" began
If the west could top the
Ukrainian one, peace would break out.
Russia paid the Ukraine a trillion plus a gas supply deal where they
got Russian gas at third discount to what Europe pay, to not become a European Economic Community member
Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and
that'ssaying something.
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they
can go back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
We don't tend
to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine mistreating the Russians?
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??)
about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of
that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all politically
correct now.
Australians ...
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 02:03:10 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 31/08/2023 10:33 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >>>> Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go
back to their own country if they like?
As expected Daniel. The troll gives you a whataboutist response.....
Next time you either need to use better bait or choose a better class of
troll.
It's called an "analogy".
other person is wrong, by using a simpler or more familiar subject for comparison.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
<Snip>
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they
can go back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
Clearly it wasn't "Clearly"!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
We don't tend
to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight?? The
way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The Ukraine.
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots are British.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??)
about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of
that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all politically
correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!!
DO have some sense, but not Australia!!
Australians ... P.C.!! Not all of us!
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 01:59:55 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 31/08/2023 7:36 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Fran wrote on 31/8/23 1:23 pm:
On 30/08/2023 10:54 pm, Daniel65 wrote:But ...!! But ..!! But..!! ;-P
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they?? >>>>>
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
:-)) Now Daniel, you really should stop your habit of throwing out
baited lines to loony trolls.
I know. I too am guilty of playing with trolls but you and I both know
that doing so is a total waste of time and we also both know that you
won't get a logical or reasoned response to your questions.
Contrarywise, the people you call trolls give lots of information.
just respond with "that's just stupid" or some other simple dismissive comment, which only goes to show you have nothing to back your claims.
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 01:57:50 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 1/09/2023 7:32 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >>>>> Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go >>>> back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK >>> people, if there is sufficient reason.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??) about
15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
Yep. He had moved to Oz as a child with his family but never bothered
to take out citizenship. Big mistake on his part.
Citizenship is just a piece of paper, it shouldn't mean anything.
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >>>> Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go
back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist. We don't tend to
beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are British.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??) about
15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all politically
correct now.
On 2/09/2023 5:17 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 01:59:55 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 31/08/2023 7:36 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Fran wrote on 31/8/23 1:23 pm:
On 30/08/2023 10:54 pm, Daniel65 wrote:But ...!! But ..!! But..!! ;-P
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. >>>>>>>> It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they?? >>>>>>
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
:-)) Now Daniel, you really should stop your habit of throwing out
baited lines to loony trolls.
I know. I too am guilty of playing with trolls but you and I both know
that doing so is a total waste of time and we also both know that you
won't get a logical or reasoned response to your questions.
Contrarywise, the people you call trolls give lots of information.
You put forward conspiracy theories and/or logical fallacies. Neither
of those are 'information'.
You
just respond with "that's just stupid" or some other simple dismissive
comment, which only goes to show you have nothing to back your claims.
The only 'accusation' I've made is that you are a troll. I don't need
to back my accusation. Daniel agrees with my assessment of you and your posts provide proof of my accusation.
On 2/09/2023 5:12 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 02:03:10 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 31/08/2023 10:33 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >>>>> Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go >>>> back to their own country if they like?
As expected Daniel. The troll gives you a whataboutist response.....
Next time you either need to use better bait or choose a better class of >>> troll.
It's called an "analogy".
No, it's not called an analogy. It's called a logical fallacy.
A common technique used in pointing out the
other person is wrong, by using a simpler or more familiar subject for
comparison.
Trolls like you use logical fallacies frequently because you can't
answer the questions asked by Daniel.
On 2/09/2023 6:11 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States.
It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those Russian >>>>> Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go >>>> back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
No, it was a logical fallacy.
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK >>> people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist. We don't tend to
beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Logical fallacy. Daniel made no such claim.
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are British.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??) about
15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all politically
correct now.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
<Snip>
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they
can go back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
Clearly it wasn't "Clearly"!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
We don't tend
to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight?? The
way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The Ukraine.
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots are British.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??)
about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of
that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all politically
correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!! Sure *Australians* did AND
DO have some sense, but not Australia!!
Australians ... P.C.!! Not all of us!
On 2/09/2023 11:21 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
<Snip>
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they
can go back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
Clearly it wasn't "Clearly"!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
We don't tend
to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight?? The
way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The Ukraine.
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots are
British.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??)
about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of
that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all politically
correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!!
LOL. Indeed. One of my favourite gripes is commentators who remark: 'Canberra says...' When 'Canberra' said no such thing.
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:25:37 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 2/09/2023 6:11 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. >>>>>>>> It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go >>>>> back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
No, it was a logical fallacy.
You've just discovered that phrase and love using it.
smart using it don't you? The only other person I know who uses that
phrase is a Jew with OCD.
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist. We don't tend to
beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Logical fallacy. Daniel made no such claim.
And there you go again.
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak for himself?
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:21:32 +0100, Daniel65
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots are
British.
USSR is Russia.
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:32:53 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 2/09/2023 11:21 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
<Snip>
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they
can go back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
Clearly it wasn't "Clearly"!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
We don't tend
to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight?? The
way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The Ukraine. >>>
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots are
British.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??)
about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of
that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all politically
correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!!
LOL. Indeed. One of my favourite gripes is commentators who remark:
'Canberra says...' When 'Canberra' said no such thing.
You have OCD, go see a doctor about your fucked up head.
Most people have enough brain cells to realise what is meant.
example "it was the truck's fault" when discussing a car/truck
collision. Most of us realise it's the truck driver. But you can't,
because you're thick as fuck.
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:23:20 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 2/09/2023 6:09 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 01:57:50 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>
On 1/09/2023 7:32 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro >>>>>>>>> powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist >>>>>>>>> and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and >>>>>>>>> annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far >>>>>>>>> away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. >>>>>>>>> It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was
going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if >>>>>>>>> Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the >>>>>>> U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they
can go
back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??) about >>>>> 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
Yep. He had moved to Oz as a child with his family but never bothered >>>> to take out citizenship. Big mistake on his part.
Citizenship is just a piece of paper, it shouldn't mean anything.
And yet you whine when I describe you as being a troll......
How is being called a troll anything to do with gaining citizenship?
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:12:48 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 2/09/2023 5:12 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 02:03:10 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>
On 31/08/2023 10:33 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro
powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and
annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. >>>>>>>> It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the
U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go >>>>> back to their own country if they like?
As expected Daniel. The troll gives you a whataboutist response.....
Next time you either need to use better bait or choose a better
class of
troll.
It's called an "analogy".
No, it's not called an analogy. It's called a logical fallacy.
A common technique used in pointing out the
other person is wrong, by using a simpler or more familiar subject for
comparison.
Trolls like you use logical fallacies frequently because you can't
answer the questions asked by Daniel.
Wow, you can't understand it at all can you? The analogy was a straight link, I just changed the country. Here's the simplified version just
for you:
Foreigner in a country gets mistreated, ok or not ok?
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:18:22 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 2/09/2023 5:17 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
You just respond with "that's just stupid" or some other simple
dismissive comment, which only goes to show you have nothing to
back your claims.
The only 'accusation' I've made is that you are a troll. I don't
need to back my accusation. Daniel agrees with my assessment of
you and your posts provide proof of my accusation.
Is Daniel your boyfriend?
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:21:32 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to
deport non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
Just there: "why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK
people".
We don't tend to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're
ok with te Ukraine mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight??
The way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The
Ukraine.
Because the Ukraine refused to stop mistreating the Russians.
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots
are British.
USSR is Russia.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall
Australia deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary??
Turkey??) about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't
speak a word of that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all
politically correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!! Sure *Australians* did
AND DO have some sense, but not Australia!!
Australia is comprised of Australians, so both must be true.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 4/9/23 1:05 am:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:18:22 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 2/09/2023 5:17 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
You just respond with "that's just stupid" or some other simple
dismissive comment, which only goes to show you have nothing to
back your claims.
The only 'accusation' I've made is that you are a troll. I don't
need to back my accusation. Daniel agrees with my assessment of
you and your posts provide proof of my accusation.
Is Daniel your boyfriend?
"friend" .... I hope so, .... "boy" .... those days ended a looonnngg
time ago!! ;-P
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:25:37 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 2/09/2023 6:11 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go >>>>>> back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
No, it was a logical fallacy.
You've just discovered that phrase and love using it.
Fantasising and conclusion jumping
is also a common trolling tactic you use.
You think you're
smart using it don't you? The only other person I know who uses that
phrase is a Jew with OCD.
Anti-semitism
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist. We don't tend to >>>> beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Logical fallacy. Daniel made no such claim.
And there you go again.
Yep. I can read for comprehension. You should try it some time.
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak for himself?
He does speak for himself.
You have trouble understanding what he writes.
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:25:37 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>
On 2/09/2023 6:11 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they
can go
back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
No, it was a logical fallacy.
You've just discovered that phrase and love using it.
Fantasising and conclusion jumping
More buzzwords.
is also a common trolling tactic you use.
I'm not trolling, I'm disagreeing with the opinion of the majority, and
you can't handle it, so you assign the label troll.
You think you're
smart using it don't you? The only other person I know who uses that
phrase is a Jew with OCD.
Anti-semitism
Should be a world-wide belief. They think god exists for fuck's sake.
And that was a terrible swerve away from the topic. >
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist. We don't
tend to
beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Logical fallacy. Daniel made no such claim.
And there you go again.
Yep. I can read for comprehension. You should try it some time.
But can you spot when you're being repetetive?
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak for
himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
You have trouble understanding what he writes.
You confuse understanding and believing.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 4/9/23 1:08 am:
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots
are British.
USSR is Russia.
U.S.S.R. stands/stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union
Sure, Russia was PART of U.S.S.R., the major part, even, but *NOT* all
of U.S.S.R.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall
Australia deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary??
Turkey??) about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't
speak a word of that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all
politically correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!! Sure *Australians* did
AND DO have some sense, but not Australia!!
Australia is comprised of Australians, so both must be true.
No, one is inanimate, the other, hopefully, sensible!!
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 10:02:16 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 4/9/23 1:05 am:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:18:22 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 2/09/2023 5:17 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
You just respond with "that's just stupid" or some other simple
dismissive comment, which only goes to show you have nothing to
back your claims.
The only 'accusation' I've made is that you are a troll. I don't
need to back my accusation. Daniel agrees with my assessment of
you and your posts provide proof of my accusation.
Is Daniel your boyfriend?
"friend" .... I hope so, .... "boy" .... those days ended a looonnngg
time ago!! ;-P
So are you 67 or 45?
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak
for himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
--You have trouble understanding what he writes.
You confuse understanding and believing.
On 4/09/2023 1:10 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:32:53 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 2/09/2023 11:21 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
<Snip>
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they
can go back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
Clearly it wasn't "Clearly"!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
We don't tend
to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine >>>>> mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight?? The >>>> way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The Ukraine. >>>>
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots are >>>> British.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??)
about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of
that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all politically
correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!!
LOL. Indeed. One of my favourite gripes is commentators who remark:
'Canberra says...' When 'Canberra' said no such thing.
You have OCD, go see a doctor about your fucked up head.
Yawn. You do have a sad habit of conclusion jumping and limp insult attempts. Typical troll.
Most people have enough brain cells to realise what is meant.
Well Duh! If I didn't know what it meant then I wouldn't notice how
poorly it was expressed! Do try to think before responding troll.
For example "it was the truck's fault" when discussing a car/truck
collision. Most of us realise it's the truck driver. But you can't,
because you're thick as fuck.
Attempted but very boring and dull attempt at insult noted.
On 4/09/2023 1:08 am, Commander Kinsey wrote more ridiculous drivel.:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:21:32 +0100, Daniel65
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots are
British.
USSR is Russia.
Just one major howler from the troll.....
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:23 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak
for himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
I guessing .... because what I post is correct .... at least in Fran's opinion. But, sometimes, we two do disagree!!
On 4/09/2023 1:05 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:23:20 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 2/09/2023 6:09 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 01:57:50 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/09/2023 7:32 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro >>>>>>>>>> powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist >>>>>>>>>> and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and >>>>>>>>>> annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far >>>>>>>>>> away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. >>>>>>>>>> It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was >>>>>>>>>> going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if >>>>>>>>>> Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe >>>>>>>>> propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those >>>>>>>> Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the >>>>>>>> U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they
can go
back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport
non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia
deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??) about >>>>>> 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
Yep. He had moved to Oz as a child with his family but never bothered >>>>> to take out citizenship. Big mistake on his part.
Citizenship is just a piece of paper, it shouldn't mean anything.
And yet you whine when I describe you as being a troll......
How is being called a troll anything to do with gaining citizenship?
No connection at all. It was a reaction to your ignorance of the
existence of laws on citizenship, the sovereign powers of nations to
form and enforce those laws and your trolling response which has no
relevance to a person failing to take up citizenship.
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:20:48 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:08 am, Commander Kinsey wrote more ridiculous drivel.:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:21:32 +0100, Daniel65
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots are >>>> British.
USSR is Russia.
Just one major howler from the troll.....
No, your denial of the past.
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:16:08 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:10 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:32:53 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>
On 2/09/2023 11:21 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
<Snip>
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they >>>>>>>> can go back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
Clearly it wasn't "Clearly"!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport >>>>>>> non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
We don't tend
to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine >>>>>> mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight?? The >>>>> way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The
Ukraine.
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots
are
British.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia >>>>>>> deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??)
about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of >>>>>>> that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all politically >>>>>> correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!!
LOL. Indeed. One of my favourite gripes is commentators who remark:
'Canberra says...' When 'Canberra' said no such thing.
You have OCD, go see a doctor about your fucked up head.
Yawn. You do have a sad habit of conclusion jumping and limp insult
attempts. Typical troll.
I wasn't insulting you, I was stating a fact. No normal person would
care about such trivialities as the Canberra thing.
Most people have enough brain cells to realise what is meant.
Well Duh! If I didn't know what it meant then I wouldn't notice how
poorly it was expressed! Do try to think before responding troll.
If you know what it meant then it was expressed well enough. The point
was to make you understand, and they succeeded.
For example "it was the truck's fault" when discussing a car/truck
collision. Most of us realise it's the truck driver. But you can't,
because you're thick as fuck.
Attempted but very boring and dull attempt at insult noted.
No, it was an observation. If you're not thick, tell me the real reason
you care about the above sentence.
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:35:43 +0100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:05 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:23:20 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>
On 2/09/2023 6:09 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 01:57:50 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 1/09/2023 7:32 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro >>>>>>>>>>> powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say >>>>>>>>>>> Ukraine
will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist >>>>>>>>>>> and
fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and >>>>>>>>>>> annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far >>>>>>>>>>> away
from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. >>>>>>>>>>> It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was >>>>>>>>>>> going to
stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more >>>>>>>>>>> and
more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if >>>>>>>>>>> Russia
were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, >>>>>>>>>>> and is
this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people >>>>>>>>>> living
in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe >>>>>>>>>> propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those >>>>>>>>> Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they?? >>>>>>>>>
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they >>>>>>>>> give up
their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the >>>>>>>>> U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they >>>>>>>> can go
back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport >>>>>>> non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall Australia >>>>>>> deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary?? Turkey??)
about
15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't speak a word of that
countries language.
Yep. He had moved to Oz as a child with his family but never
bothered
to take out citizenship. Big mistake on his part.
Citizenship is just a piece of paper, it shouldn't mean anything.
And yet you whine when I describe you as being a troll......
How is being called a troll anything to do with gaining citizenship?
No connection at all. It was a reaction to your ignorance of the
existence of laws on citizenship, the sovereign powers of nations to
form and enforce those laws and your trolling response which has no
relevance to a person failing to take up citizenship.
Why do you love governments so much?
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:23 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak
for himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
I guessing .... because what I post is correct .... at least in Fran's opinion. But, sometimes, we two do disagree!!
Fran
Daniel65No, your pig ignorance of geopolitics and your inability to use a search engine.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like ScotsJust one major howler from the troll.....
are British.
On 5/09/2023 5:17 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:23 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak
for himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
I guessing .... because what I post is correct .... at least in Fran's
opinion. But, sometimes, we two do disagree!!
Yep. You and I do sometimes disagree. At least you bother to check
your facts (most of the time) and if I challenge you, you put some
effort into a response.
Our poor troll is learn resistant, can't think (logically or otherwise)
and just posts mindless garbage. I suspect this one doesn't suffer from
the slide into dementia like our other resident retard but is just
ignorant and lazy.
On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 08:09:33 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:24 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 10:02:16 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 4/9/23 1:05 am:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:18:22 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 2/09/2023 5:17 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
You just respond with "that's just stupid" or some other
simple dismissive comment, which only goes to show you
have nothing to back your claims.
The only 'accusation' I've made is that you are a troll. I
don't need to back my accusation. Daniel agrees with my
assessment of you and your posts provide proof of my
accusation.
Is Daniel your boyfriend?
"friend" .... I hope so, .... "boy" .... those days ended a
looonnngg time ago!! ;-P
So are you 67 or 45?
Hmm!! Why just those two options, I wonder?? What's wrong with 59,
or 72, or 47, I wonder??
I was going by your name and email address as filled in on your
newsreader.
Fran
/Autosnip all inputs of mentally deranged home grown and septic trash malicious wankers residing in my kill file/
FranFran, don't you think that it is high time to bozobin that troll???
Daniel65No, your pig ignorance of geopolitics and your inability to use a
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like ScotsJust one major howler from the troll.....
are British.
search engine.
Fran
/Autosnip all inputs of mentally deranged home grown and septic trash
malicious wankers residing in my kill file/
FranFran, don't you think that it is high time to bozobin that troll???
Daniel65No, your pig ignorance of geopolitics and your inability to use a
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just likeJust one major howler from the troll.....
Scots are British.
search engine.
On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 08:17:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:23 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak
for himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
I guessing .... because what I post is correct .... at least in Fran's
opinion. But, sometimes, we two do disagree!!
That would be like placing antimatter on a desk.
On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 08:44:17 +1000, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:
On 5/09/2023 5:17 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:23 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak
for himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
I guessing .... because what I post is correct .... at least in Fran's
opinion. But, sometimes, we two do disagree!!
Yep. You and I do sometimes disagree. At least you bother to check
your facts (most of the time) and if I challenge you, you put some
effort into a response.
Our poor troll is learn resistant, can't think (logically or otherwise)
and just posts mindless garbage. I suspect this one doesn't suffer from
the slide into dementia like our other resident retard but is just
ignorant and lazy.
Mummy always said those with an open mind get a lot of rubbish chucked
in.
On 4/09/2023 1:04 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:12:48 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 2/09/2023 5:12 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 02:03:10 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>>
On 31/08/2023 10:33 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:54:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 30/8/23 5:34 pm:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:17:19 +0100, Intelligent Party
<Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> wrote:
Say Ukraine will only be in military alliance only with Euro >>>>>>>>> powers, and not with countries across the ocean. And say Ukraine >>>>>>>>> will be in EU, and in free association with Russia.
It's likely Russians saying to have NATO in Ukraine, the resist and >>>>>>>>> fight Russia, because this allows Russia to fight Ukraine and >>>>>>>>> annex it.
You don't win a war through defense alone. Ukraine is not far away >>>>>>>>> from Russia like Afghanistan, or Vietnam to the United States. >>>>>>>>> It's like if the U.S. were fighting Mexico, and Russia was going to >>>>>>>>> stop the U.S. from annexing Baja. Russia will just take more and >>>>>>>>> more of Ukraine over time. The only other possibility is if Russia >>>>>>>>> were to implode. That is, to overthrow through civil war, and is >>>>>>>>> this really going to happen?
The Ukraine started the war. They mistreated Russian people living >>>>>>>> in the Ukraine,and they asked Russia for help. Don't believe
propaganda from US and UK governments.
If Ukraine mistreated Russians who lived in The Ukraine, those
Russian
Citizens had the option to go back to Russian, didn't they??
If they were Ukraine Citizens of Russian Birth, why did they give up >>>>>>> their Russian Citizenship??
Or were they Russian born whilst that area was all tied up in the >>>>>>> U.S.S.R.??
Or something else??
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they can go >>>>>> back to their own country if they like?
As expected Daniel. The troll gives you a whataboutist response..... >>>>>
Next time you either need to use better bait or choose a better
class of
troll.
It's called an "analogy".
No, it's not called an analogy. It's called a logical fallacy.
A common technique used in pointing out the
other person is wrong, by using a simpler or more familiar subject for >>>> comparison.
Trolls like you use logical fallacies frequently because you can't
answer the questions asked by Daniel.
Wow, you can't understand it at all can you? The analogy was a straight
link, I just changed the country. Here's the simplified version just
for you:
Foreigner in a country gets mistreated, ok or not ok?
LOL. Did you think about that before you wrote that?
Are you now claiming those (allegedly) mistreated Russians in Ukraine
are foreigners?
Foreigners have no rights in any foreign country other than those
afforded to them, by the laws of the country which they are visiting.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 4/9/23 1:08 am:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:21:32 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
<Snip>
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to
deport non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
Just there: "why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK
people".
YOU were the one that brought up The UK, specificly.
Each and EVERY Country has the right to evict those non-citizens IT
doesn't want around.
We don't tend to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're
ok with te Ukraine mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight??
The way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The
Ukraine.
Because the Ukraine refused to stop mistreating the Russians.
If the Russians in The Ukraine didn't like the way they were being
treated THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO GO BACK HOME TO RUSSIA!!
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots
are British.
USSR is Russia.
U.S.S.R. stands/stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union
Sure, Russia was PART of U.S.S.R., the major part, even, but *NOT* all
of U.S.S.R.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall
Australia deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary??
Turkey??) about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't
speak a word of that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all
politically correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!! Sure *Australians* did
AND DO have some sense, but not Australia!!
Australia is comprised of Australians, so both must be true.
No, one is inanimate, the other, hopefully, sensible!!
On 4/09/2023 7:24 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 4/9/23 1:08 am:
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots
are British.
USSR is Russia.
U.S.S.R. stands/stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union
Sure, Russia was PART of U.S.S.R., the major part, even, but *NOT* all
of U.S.S.R.
:-)) I particularly liked that howler from the troll.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall
Australia deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary??
Turkey??) about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't
speak a word of that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all
politically correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!! Sure *Australians* did
AND DO have some sense, but not Australia!!
Australia is comprised of Australians, so both must be true.
No, one is inanimate, the other, hopefully, sensible!!
I bet that comment goes over the troll's head ;-)
Get your OCD sorted you look an arse.
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 10:24:16 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 4/9/23 1:08 am:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:21:32 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
<Snip>
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to
deport non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
Just there: "why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK
people".
YOU were the one that brought up The UK, specificly.
Each and EVERY Country has the right to evict those non-citizens IT
doesn't want around.
This makes you racist. That's why you back the Nazi Ukraine.
We don't tend to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're
ok with te Ukraine mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight??
The way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The
Ukraine.
Because the Ukraine refused to stop mistreating the Russians.
If the Russians in The Ukraine didn't like the way they were being
treated THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO GO BACK HOME TO RUSSIA!!
"Go back to your own country" - try saying that in your own street to a negro.
Mind you, Ukrainians are Russians anyway, just like Scots are
British.
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots
are British.
USSR is Russia.
U.S.S.R. stands/stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union
Sure, Russia was PART of U.S.S.R., the major part, even, but *NOT* all
of U.S.S.R.
Major is good enough. Since the USSR was destroyed by America and it's little shoe shiners in NATO, it's up to Russia to rebuild it to it's
former glory.
Australia certainly has that ability ... I even recall
Australia deporting a guy back to his 'Home' country (Hungary??
Turkey??) about 15-20 years ago .... even though he didn't
speak a word of that countries language.
Australia used to have some sense, but they've gone all
politically correct now.
I never knew that Australia had any sense!! Sure *Australians* did
AND DO have some sense, but not Australia!!
Australia is comprised of Australians, so both must be true.
No, one is inanimate, the other, hopefully, sensible!!
Get your OCD sorted you look an arse.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 13/09/2023 4:37 pm:
<Snip>
Get your OCD sorted you look an arse.
No, Commander, I can't see you!
--
Daniel
On 5/09/2023 6:23 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:25:37 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>>
On 2/09/2023 6:11 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
So you're ok if the UK mistreats any non-UK people because they >>>>>>>> can go
back to their own country if they like?
(Sorry, Fran, but .....)
UK?? I thought this thread was about The *Ukraine* not The UK!!
Clearly it was an analogy.
No, it was a logical fallacy.
You've just discovered that phrase and love using it.
Fantasising and conclusion jumping
More buzzwords.
is also a common trolling tactic you use.
I'm not trolling, I'm disagreeing with the opinion of the majority, and
you can't handle it, so you assign the label troll.
You think you're
smart using it don't you? The only other person I know who uses that
phrase is a Jew with OCD.
Anti-semitism
Should be a world-wide belief. They think god exists for fuck's sake.
Billions of people right round the world believe in the existence of
some form of God. Your singling out Jews for doing so says more about
you than it does about Jews.
And that was a terrible swerve away from the topic. >
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport >>>>>>> non-UK
people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist. We don't
tend to
beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're ok with te Ukraine
mistreating the Russians?
Logical fallacy. Daniel made no such claim.
And there you go again.
Yep. I can read for comprehension. You should try it some time.
But can you spot when you're being repetetive?
Yes and I do that as thickos like you need repetition.
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak for
himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
Thickos trolls like you need repetition.
You have trouble understanding what he writes.
You confuse understanding and believing.
You neither understand nor believe but you are a troll and an ignorant
one and also boring.
On 5/09/2023 6:23 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Should be a world-wide belief. They think god exists for fuck's sake.
Billions of people right round the world believe in the existence of
some form of God. Your singling out Jews for doing so says more about
you than it does about Jews.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 6/09/2023 2:23 am:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 08:09:33 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:24 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 10:02:16 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 4/9/23 1:05 am:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:18:22 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 2/09/2023 5:17 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
You just respond with "that's just stupid" or some other
simple dismissive comment, which only goes to show you
have nothing to back your claims.
The only 'accusation' I've made is that you are a troll. I
don't need to back my accusation. Daniel agrees with my
assessment of you and your posts provide proof of my
accusation.
Is Daniel your boyfriend?
"friend" .... I hope so, .... "boy" .... those days ended a
looonnngg time ago!! ;-P
So are you 67 or 45?
Hmm!! Why just those two options, I wonder?? What's wrong with 59,
or 72, or 47, I wonder??
I was going by your name and email address as filled in on your
newsreader.
Ah!! O.K., that makes sense. I set up this news account when I was
45'ish and I've had it for about 20 years.
So what??
On 6/09/2023 2:15 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:35:43 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:05 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:23:20 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>>
On 2/09/2023 6:09 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Citizenship is just a piece of paper, it shouldn't mean anything.
And yet you whine when I describe you as being a troll......
How is being called a troll anything to do with gaining citizenship?
No connection at all. It was a reaction to your ignorance of the
existence of laws on citizenship, the sovereign powers of nations to
form and enforce those laws and your trolling response which has no
relevance to a person failing to take up citizenship.
Why do you love governments so much?
Yawn. More conclusion jumping from you. Get back to me when you grow up.
On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 06:25:38 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 6/09/2023 2:23 am:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 08:09:33 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:24 am:
So are you 67 or 45?
Hmm!! Why just those two options, I wonder?? What's wrong with 59,
or 72, or 47, I wonder??
I was going by your name and email address as filled in on your
newsreader.
Ah!! O.K., that makes sense. I set up this news account when I was
45'ish and I've had it for about 20 years.
So you change your name each year?
So what??
I was wondering how looonnngg ago it was.
Fran wrote on 5/9/23 8:29 am:
On 5/09/2023 6:23 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
Should be a world-wide belief. They think god exists for fuck's sake.
Billions of people right round the world believe in the existence of
some form of God. Your singling out Jews for doing so says more about
you than it does about Jews.
I've said it before and I'll say it again ..... Christianity is a Jewish Sect!! ;-P
Commander Kinsey wrote on 14/9/23 7:36 pm:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 06:25:38 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 6/09/2023 2:23 am:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 08:09:33 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:24 am:
<Snip>
So are you 67 or 45?
Hmm!! Why just those two options, I wonder?? What's wrong with 59,
or 72, or 47, I wonder??
I was going by your name and email address as filled in on your
newsreader.
Ah!! O.K., that makes sense. I set up this news account when I was
45'ish and I've had it for about 20 years.
So you change your name each year?
No!! In the last 20 or so years, I've had just three nyms!!
So what??
I was wondering how looonnngg ago it was.
How looonnngg ago "WHAT" was??
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 11:27:56 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 14/9/23 7:36 pm:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 06:25:38 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 6/09/2023 2:23 am:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 08:09:33 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:24 am:
<Snip>
So are you 67 or 45?
Hmm!! Why just those two options, I wonder?? What's wrong with 59, >>>>>> or 72, or 47, I wonder??
I was going by your name and email address as filled in on your
newsreader.
Ah!! O.K., that makes sense. I set up this news account when I was
45'ish and I've had it for about 20 years.
So you change your name each year?
No!! In the last 20 or so years, I've had just three nyms!!
So what??
I was wondering how looonnngg ago it was.
How looonnngg ago "WHAT" was??
If you unsnip the above, you'll find out.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 6/09/2023 2:23 am:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 08:17:27 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:23 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak
for himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
I guessing .... because what I post is correct .... at least in Fran's
opinion. But, sometimes, we two do disagree!!
That would be like placing antimatter on a desk.
Oh!! Yeah!! Right! Like we've all seen what happens then, haven't we??
You're not real bright, are you, Commander??
On 5/09/2023 5:15 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:16:08 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:10 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 11:32:53 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote: >>>>
LOL. Indeed. One of my favourite gripes is commentators who remark: >>>>> 'Canberra says...' When 'Canberra' said no such thing.
You have OCD, go see a doctor about your fucked up head.
Yawn. You do have a sad habit of conclusion jumping and limp insult
attempts. Typical troll.
I wasn't insulting you, I was stating a fact. No normal person would
care about such trivialities as the Canberra thing.
Earth to dumb troll!!!!!! You are posting into aus.pol. You're stupid
if you can't join the dots connecting a usenet political group with
having knowledge of, interest in, and commitment to politics. I know
you're a troll but now I know you're also a retard.
Most people have enough brain cells to realise what is meant.
Well Duh! If I didn't know what it meant then I wouldn't notice how
poorly it was expressed! Do try to think before responding troll.
If you know what it meant then it was expressed well enough. The point
was to make you understand, and they succeeded.
It was expressed well enough for people with limited abilities when it
comes to the English language or for those who lack more than the most
basic level of education.
For example "it was the truck's fault" when discussing a car/truck
collision. Most of us realise it's the truck driver. But you can't,
because you're thick as fuck.
Attempted but very boring and dull attempt at insult noted.
No, it was an observation. If you're not thick, tell me the real reason
you care about the above sentence.
I have. You're just too thick, ignorant and ill educated to understand
what I wrote.
That is why you post howlers like you did about Russia.
On 6/09/2023 2:14 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:20:48 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:08 am, Commander Kinsey wrote more ridiculous drivel.:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:21:32 +0100, Daniel65
No, The Ukrainians were U.S.S.R,'ians, not Russians just like Scots are >>>>> British.
USSR is Russia.
Just one major howler from the troll.....
No, your denial of the past.
No, your pig ignorance of geopolitics and your inability to use a search engine.
On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 08:44:17 +1000, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:
On 5/09/2023 5:17 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:23 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak
for himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
I guessing .... because what I post is correct .... at least in Fran's
opinion. But, sometimes, we two do disagree!!
Yep. You and I do sometimes disagree. At least you bother to check
your facts (most of the time) and if I challenge you, you put some
effort into a response.
Our poor troll is learn resistant, can't think (logically or otherwise)
and just posts mindless garbage. I suspect this one doesn't suffer from
the slide into dementia like our other resident retard but is just
ignorant and lazy.
Mummy always said those with an open mind get a lot of rubbish chucked
in.
On 5/09/2023 5:17 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:23 am:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 02:04:17 +0100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:
On 4/09/2023 1:06 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
<Snip>
And why do you keep backing up Daniel as though he can't speak
for himself?
He does speak for himself.
So why do you back him up?
I guessing .... because what I post is correct .... at least in Fran's
opinion. But, sometimes, we two do disagree!!
Yep. You and I do sometimes disagree. At least you bother to check
your facts (most of the time) and if I challenge you, you put some
effort into a response.
Our poor troll is learn resistant,
can't think (logically or otherwise)
and just posts mindless garbage. I suspect this one doesn't suffer from
the slide into dementia like our other resident retard but is just
ignorant and lazy.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 13/09/2023 4:37 pm:
<Snip>
Get your OCD sorted you look an arse.
No, Commander, I can't see you!
On 13/9/2023 4:37 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2023 10:24:16 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 4/9/23 1:08 am:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:21:32 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 2/9/23 6:11 pm:
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:32:19 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 31/8/23 10:33 pm:
<Snip>
But, in any case, why shouldn't The UK have the ability to
deport non-UK people, if there is sufficient reason.
Well yes, I agree. But I assumed you weren't racist.
Where have I indicated that I *AM* racist??
Just there: "why shouldn't The UK have the ability to deport non-UK
people".
YOU were the one that brought up The UK, specificly.
Each and EVERY Country has the right to evict those non-citizens IT
doesn't want around.
This makes you racist. That's why you back the Nazi Ukraine.
Ah, the old troll standby - the *racist* tag. Such a pity you don't understand the meaning of the word.
Keep your mind focused on the term *non-citizen*.
We don't tend to beat up the Mozzies who invaded us, but you're
ok with te Ukraine mistreating the Russians?
Sorry!! When did The Ukraine invade Russia to *START* this fight??
The way I understand it, Russia invaded the eastern portions of The
Ukraine.
Because the Ukraine refused to stop mistreating the Russians.
If the Russians in The Ukraine didn't like the way they were being
treated THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO GO BACK HOME TO RUSSIA!!
"Go back to your own country" - try saying that in your own street to a
negro.
You don't read so good. You might have noticed he said, and quite
distinctly so, *Russians*. From that you could assume people who
migrated to Ukraine but still maintain Russian citizenship.
Commander Kinsey wrote on 17/9/23 6:44 pm:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 11:27:56 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 14/9/23 7:36 pm:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 06:25:38 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 6/09/2023 2:23 am:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 08:09:33 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:24 am:
<Snip>
So are you 67 or 45?
Hmm!! Why just those two options, I wonder?? What's wrong with 59, >>>>>>> or 72, or 47, I wonder??
I was going by your name and email address as filled in on your
newsreader.
Ah!! O.K., that makes sense. I set up this news account when I was
45'ish and I've had it for about 20 years.
So you change your name each year?
No!! In the last 20 or so years, I've had just three nyms!!
So what??
I was wondering how looonnngg ago it was.
How looonnngg ago "WHAT" was??
If you unsnip the above, you'll find out.
Nope! Still as Clear as Mud!!
On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 11:40:43 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 17/9/23 6:44 pm:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 11:27:56 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 14/9/23 7:36 pm:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 06:25:38 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 6/09/2023 2:23 am:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2023 08:09:33 +0100, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 5/9/23 6:24 am:
<Snip>
So are you 67 or 45?
Hmm!! Why just those two options, I wonder?? What's
wrong with 59, or 72, or 47, I wonder??
I was going by your name and email address as filled in
on your newsreader.
Ah!! O.K., that makes sense. I set up this news account
when I was 45'ish and I've had it for about 20 years.
So you change your name each year?
No!! In the last 20 or so years, I've had just three nyms!!
So what??
I was wondering how looonnngg ago it was.
How looonnngg ago "WHAT" was??
If you unsnip the above, you'll find out.
Nope! Still as Clear as Mud!!
I just looked that up, I always though it meant very clear! Everyone
I've heard using it must have been double sarcastic....
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