• Doctor Fauci admits he made up COVID rules

    From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 2 21:09:08 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet
    social distancing and masking kids

    Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule
    came from

    He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html

    Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel
    are starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether government-backed scientists were fully transparent about controversial
    virus research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci skirted public
    records requests.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109

    NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.

    https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/



    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Jun 3 10:41:36 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Sun, 2 Jun 2024, Lucas McCain wrote:

    Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet social distancing and masking kids

    Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule came from

    He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html

    Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel are starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether government-backed scientists were fully transparent about controversial virus research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci skirted public records requests.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109

    NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.

    https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/

    Is anyone surprised? They were so silly it was kind of obvious. My
    favourite was the mask off when sitting down at a restaurant, mask on when standing up to go to the toilet. Brilliant!

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    Sadly I don't think it will work to copy someone elses QR code next time though. That was very convenient as well to go into vax-only territories
    to buy food.

    At the beginning of corona, it was even possible to print your own
    corona-test result papers although that was eventually locked down.

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 3 06:34:10 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On 6/3/2024 2:41 AM, D wrote:


    On Sun, 2 Jun 2024, Lucas McCain wrote:

    Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet
    social distancing and masking kids

    Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule
    came from

    He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html

    Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel
    are starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether
    government-backed scientists were fully transparent about
    controversial virus research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci
    skirted public records requests.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109

    NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.

    https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/

    Is anyone surprised? They were so silly it was kind of obvious. My
    favourite was the mask off when sitting down at a restaurant, mask on
    when standing up to go to the toilet. Brilliant!

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    Sadly I don't think it will work to copy someone elses QR code next time though. That was very convenient as well to go into vax-only territories
    to buy food.

    At the beginning of corona, it was even possible to print your own corona-test result papers although that was eventually locked down.

    If my memory serves me well, "Mr. Science" (Fauci) had a checkered past
    with regard to the AIDS / HIV "pandemic" as well as with regard to
    COVID. He also made a fortune off patents that he held with regard to
    the mRNA "vaccines" and funded horrific animal experiments. Physicians
    who challenged his decisions with regard to lock downs and masks were
    smeared by the mainstream media, banned from social media, and often had
    their careers ruined.
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Jun 3 17:18:59 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, Lucas McCain wrote:

    On 6/3/2024 2:41 AM, D wrote:


    On Sun, 2 Jun 2024, Lucas McCain wrote:

    Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet
    social distancing and masking kids

    Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule came >>> from

    He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids. >>>
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html

    Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel are >>> starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether
    government-backed scientists were fully transparent about controversial
    virus research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci skirted public
    records requests.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109

    NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.

    https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/

    Is anyone surprised? They were so silly it was kind of obvious. My
    favourite was the mask off when sitting down at a restaurant, mask on when >> standing up to go to the toilet. Brilliant!

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
    international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
    governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    Sadly I don't think it will work to copy someone elses QR code next time
    though. That was very convenient as well to go into vax-only territories to >> buy food.

    At the beginning of corona, it was even possible to print your own
    corona-test result papers although that was eventually locked down.

    If my memory serves me well, "Mr. Science" (Fauci) had a checkered past with regard to the AIDS / HIV "pandemic" as well as with regard to COVID. He also made a fortune off patents that he held with regard to the mRNA "vaccines" and funded horrific animal experiments. Physicians who challenged his decisions with regard to lock downs and masks were smeared by the mainstream media, banned from social media, and often had their careers ruined.


    Sounds like the typical definition of a civil servant or politician!

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 3 19:20:40 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:41:36 +0200, D wrote:

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. I
    was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Jun 3 22:36:49 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:41:36 +0200, D wrote:

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
    international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
    governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. I
    was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.


    Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a mask
    due to medical reasons, and that this results in them discriminating
    against sick people. ;)

    That's kind of the gist of my power note and worked on all airlines except
    one, and that airline I will never fly with again. That brings back fun memories. I refused wearing the mask once the plane was in the air and was threatened by the staff and the captain but just ignored them. There was
    talk of fines, prison, but I wouldn't even look at them, but just kept
    looking out the window or ignoring them. In the end they gave up, did not emergency land the plane, and eventually just moved on to harassing other passengers instead.

    Sometimes you just need to say no, and stand by that no, no matter what
    happens or what the threat is.

    And no fines ever showed up.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 3 20:54:37 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 22:36:49 +0200, D wrote:



    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:41:36 +0200, D wrote:

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
    international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
    governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke.
    I was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.


    Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
    mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
    discriminating against sick people.

    I haven't been in the store since well before covid and I don't know if
    that is their policy. I went to a reading/signing at the public library
    last month and there wasn't a mask in sight. There are still some who wear
    them but other than that store I don't think anyone requires them.

    The county health official who was behind the masks/lockdowns was fired. According to my dentist she has a long history of being fired for
    incompetence so a local government job was her last resort.

    I still have the letter stating I work in an essential industry to cover
    me for lockdowns although I never had to present it.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Jun 4 10:24:01 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 22:36:49 +0200, D wrote:



    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:41:36 +0200, D wrote:

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
    international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
    governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke.
    I was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.


    Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
    mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
    discriminating against sick people.

    I haven't been in the store since well before covid and I don't know if
    that is their policy. I went to a reading/signing at the public library
    last month and there wasn't a mask in sight. There are still some who wear them but other than that store I don't think anyone requires them.

    The county health official who was behind the masks/lockdowns was fired. According to my dentist she has a long history of being fired for incompetence so a local government job was her last resort.

    I still have the letter stating I work in an essential industry to cover
    me for lockdowns although I never had to present it.


    Ahh... the power of a smaller town, where nuggets like that actually
    spread around and it is more difficult for politicians and civil
    "servants" to hide in plain sight.

    That's why democracy on a national level breaks down. Too many people too little accountability.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 4 09:53:58 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, or.politics, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns

    D wrote:


    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:41:36 +0200, D wrote:

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
    international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
    governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. I
    was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.


    Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
    mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
    discriminating against sick people. ;)

    That's kind of the gist of my power note and worked on all airlines
    except one, and that airline I will never fly with again. That brings
    back fun memories. I refused wearing the mask once the plane was in the
    air and was threatened by the staff and the captain but just ignored
    them. There was talk of fines, prison, but I wouldn't even look at them,
    but just kept looking out the window or ignoring them. In the end they
    gave up, did not emergency land the plane, and eventually just moved on
    to harassing other passengers instead.

    Sometimes you just need to say no, and stand by that no, no matter what happens or what the threat is.

    And no fines ever showed up.

    It's all a ginormous genocidal HOAX!

    Only the senseless death and lingering myocarditis in our young is real.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 4 09:51:47 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    D wrote:


    On Sun, 2 Jun 2024, Lucas McCain wrote:

    Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet
    social distancing and masking kids

    Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule
    came from

    He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html


    Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel
    are starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether
    government-backed scientists were fully transparent about
    controversial virus research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci
    skirted public records requests.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109


    NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.

    https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/


    Is anyone surprised? They were so silly it was kind of obvious. My
    favourite was the mask off when sitting down at a restaurant, mask on
    when standing up to go to the toilet. Brilliant!

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    Sadly I don't think it will work to copy someone elses QR code next time though. That was very convenient as well to go into vax-only territories
    to buy food.

    At the beginning of corona, it was even possible to print your own corona-test result papers although that was eventually locked down.

    All this plandemic scheme handily and publicly displayed for decades in
    little Elberton, Georgia:

    https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/georgia-guidestones-mysterious-instructions-for-the-post-apocalypse/

    "On a barren field in Georgia, US, five granite slabs rise in a star
    pattern. Each of them weighs over 20 tons and on top of them, there is a capstone. Nobody knows who built it or why they were placed there, but
    one popular opinion that their purpose is to guide humanity after a
    predicted post-apocalyptic event that will come in the not so distant
    future. The huge blocks send a message out to the world in eight
    different current languages, as well as four extinct ones (ancient Greek
    and Egyptian hieroglyphs for example). The set of ten guidelines has
    baffled people around the world, with descriptions ranging from perfect
    and utopian to satanic or quirky. But no matter what the case, these ten commandments should definitely get you thinking:

    Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

    Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.

    Unite humanity with a living new language.

    Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.

    Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

    Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world
    court.

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Balance personal rights with social duties.

    Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.

    Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature

    While some of them are clearly noble and laudable (like having fair laws
    and avoiding petty ones), some of them have stirred controversy —
    especially “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance
    with nature”, and “Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity”. If we were to apply these now, we’d have to kill over 90% of the planet.

    Update: unfortunately, the Georgia Guidestones have been blown up by
    vandals. It’s unclear who and why destroyed the stones, which were kept
    by locals as a piece of history. At least one of the slabs was destroyed
    in an explosion, and authorities flattened the entire structure for
    safety reasons. The monument, which was hated by some Christian groups,
    may be rebuilt or restored, but it’s unclear exactly if and when this
    will happen."


    Not too hard to read between THOSE genocidal lines, now is it?

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 4 09:54:30 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    D wrote:


    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 22:36:49 +0200, D wrote:



    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:41:36 +0200, D wrote:

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
    international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the >>>>> governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. >>>> I was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.


    Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
    mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
    discriminating against sick people.

    I haven't been in the store since well before covid and I don't know if
    that is their policy. I went to a reading/signing at the public library
    last month and there wasn't a mask in sight. There are still some who
    wear
    them but other than that store I don't think anyone requires them.

    The county health official who was behind the masks/lockdowns was fired.
    According to my dentist she has a long history of being fired for
    incompetence so a local government job was her last resort.

    I still have the letter stating I work in an essential industry to cover
    me for lockdowns although I never had to present it.


    Ahh... the power of a smaller town, where nuggets like that actually
    spread around and it is more difficult for politicians and civil
    "servants" to hide in plain sight.

    That's why democracy on a national level breaks down. Too many people
    too little accountability.

    Amen!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Loran on Tue Jun 4 12:28:24 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jablonsky@21:1/5 to Loran on Tue Jun 4 14:11:16 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, or.politics, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns

    On 6/4/2024 8:53 AM, Loran wrote:
    D wrote:


    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:41:36 +0200, D wrote:

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
    international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
    governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. I >>> was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.


    Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
    mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
    discriminating against sick people. ;)

    That's kind of the gist of my power note and worked on all airlines
    except one, and that airline I will never fly with again. That brings
    back fun memories. I refused wearing the mask once the plane was in
    the air and was threatened by the staff and the captain but just
    ignored them. There was talk of fines, prison, but I wouldn't even
    look at them, but just kept looking out the window or ignoring them.
    In the end they gave up, did not emergency land the plane, and
    eventually just moved on to harassing other passengers instead.

    Sometimes you just need to say no, and stand by that no, no matter
    what happens or what the threat is.

    And no fines ever showed up.

    It's all a ginormous genocidal HOAX!

    Only the senseless death and lingering myocarditis in our young is real.

    Joe Biden and Kamala Harris stinking up the Whitehouse and making a
    complete fool of the US is real.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 4 20:35:52 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 10:24:01 +0200, D wrote:

    Ahh... the power of a smaller town, where nuggets like that actually
    spread around and it is more difficult for politicians and civil
    "servants" to hide in plain sight.

    That's why democracy on a national level breaks down. Too many people
    too little accountability.

    A state of 330 million is way to big. I won't even call it a nation since
    a nation implies a common culture, ethic, language, and so forth. I am not
    a civic nationalist by any means.

    The differences become apparent even on a local level. This is a blue
    county surrounded by red neighbors. I don't know if the county 15 miles to
    the south even had a mask mandate but if it did nobody paid attention to
    it. for that matter even within the county the city is blue and the rest
    of the county is red.

    An author, Malka Older, wrote a trilogy where the world consisted of
    centenals, areas of 100,000 people that shared a common set of values. If
    you didn't like the way the one you were in was run, move to an acceptable
    one. Two adjacent centenals might have a completely different system of government. Mninmal controls were in place to prevent inter-centenal aggression.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Jun 5 07:36:30 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 10:24:01 +0200, D wrote:

    Ahh... the power of a smaller town, where nuggets like that actually
    spread around and it is more difficult for politicians and civil
    "servants" to hide in plain sight.

    That's why democracy on a national level breaks down. Too many people
    too little accountability.

    A state of 330 million is way to big. I won't even call it a nation since
    a nation implies a common culture, ethic, language, and so forth. I am not
    a civic nationalist by any means.

    The differences become apparent even on a local level. This is a blue
    county surrounded by red neighbors. I don't know if the county 15 miles to the south even had a mask mandate but if it did nobody paid attention to
    it. for that matter even within the county the city is blue and the rest
    of the county is red.

    An author, Malka Older, wrote a trilogy where the world consisted of centenals, areas of 100,000 people that shared a common set of values. If
    you didn't like the way the one you were in was run, move to an acceptable one. Two adjacent centenals might have a completely different system of government. Mninmal controls were in place to prevent inter-centenal aggression.

    Interesting book. I'm not a nationalist but I do acknowledge that
    nationalism or having a common culture, to a certain extent, is good for
    the stability of society.

    It's an interesting thought to imagine that we split land areas today
    along political/ideological lines, republican/democrat, white/black etc.
    How many subdivisions would we have to go through before the remaining
    society would become stable and harmonius?

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Wed Jun 5 09:36:07 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person shrinkage/genocide?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 5 16:37:54 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 07:36:30 +0200, D wrote:

    It's an interesting thought to imagine that we split land areas today
    along political/ideological lines, republican/democrat, white/black etc.
    How many subdivisions would we have to go through before the remaining society would become stable and harmonius?

    It would be an interesting project. Even the states would be splitting.
    Unless it's changed radically from when I lived there upstate NY doesn't
    have much use for NYC and its environs. Another example is the more or
    less serious movement in eastern Oregon to secede and join Idaho.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Loran on Wed Jun 5 12:43:39 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On 6/5/2024 9:36 AM, Loran wrote:
    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person shrinkage/genocide?


    From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500
    million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance
    to support all life in the long term. I would not personally involve
    myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are
    far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
    degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead.

    In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
    population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
    Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
    off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Wed Jun 5 14:12:26 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/5/2024 9:36 AM, Loran wrote:
    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
    shrinkage/genocide?


    From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500 million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance
    to support all life in the long term.

    You'd be both:

    1. wrong
    2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations


    I would not personally involve
    myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are
    far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
    degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead.

    Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that
    soon!

    In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
    population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
    Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
    off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.

    ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.

    Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Jablonsky on Wed Jun 5 14:22:30 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, or.politics, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns

    Jablonsky wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 8:53 AM, Loran wrote:
    D wrote:


    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:41:36 +0200, D wrote:

    I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
    international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the >>>>> governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

    A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee
    Burke. I
    was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.


    Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
    mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
    discriminating against sick people. ;)

    That's kind of the gist of my power note and worked on all airlines
    except one, and that airline I will never fly with again. That brings
    back fun memories. I refused wearing the mask once the plane was in
    the air and was threatened by the staff and the captain but just
    ignored them. There was talk of fines, prison, but I wouldn't even
    look at them, but just kept looking out the window or ignoring them.
    In the end they gave up, did not emergency land the plane, and
    eventually just moved on to harassing other passengers instead.

    Sometimes you just need to say no, and stand by that no, no matter
    what happens or what the threat is.

    And no fines ever showed up.

    It's all a ginormous genocidal HOAX!

    Only the senseless death and lingering myocarditis in our young is real.

    Joe Biden and Kamala Harris stinking up the Whitehouse and making a
    complete fool of the US is real.


    Al under the corrupted communist tutelage and commands of Obammy and
    Valerie Jarret.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Jun 5 22:22:49 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024, rbowman wrote:

    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 07:36:30 +0200, D wrote:

    It's an interesting thought to imagine that we split land areas today
    along political/ideological lines, republican/democrat, white/black etc.
    How many subdivisions would we have to go through before the remaining
    society would become stable and harmonius?

    It would be an interesting project. Even the states would be splitting. Unless it's changed radically from when I lived there upstate NY doesn't
    have much use for NYC and its environs. Another example is the more or
    less serious movement in eastern Oregon to secede and join Idaho.

    Thinking of Stockholm, the different parts of the city are divided along
    party lines. Suburbs you have immigrants and criminals, one part is the financial sector, one parts the artsy people, one part lots of media
    people etc.

    Those would all seem like natural divisions.

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Wed Jun 5 14:23:26 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    Nice if we could hold it there, sure.

    Giverment is a self-enriching, self-replicating monster of monolithic
    control.

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Loran on Wed Jun 5 17:02:40 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On 6/5/2024 2:12 PM, Loran wrote:
    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/5/2024 9:36 AM, Loran wrote:
    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
    shrinkage/genocide?


     From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say
    500 million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a
    chance to support all life in the long term.

    You'd be both:

    1. wrong
    2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations


    One can't be proven wrong per events that haven't happened yet and to
    your second point, one can't provide critical proofs and citations per a
    future that has yet to come to pass. I am reminded of a Japanese
    geologist who predicted a tsunami and earthquake would cause a meltdown
    of the Daichi nuclear reactors in Fukushima before 2011. He was
    silenced, cancelled, fired and dismissed as essentially "in deficit of
    critical proofs and citations" so that General Electric could build the
    nuclear reactors in the earthquake, tsunami prone area. The media
    whores and bureaucrats who laughed at him and scorned his warnings were
    proven wrong by the tsunami and earthquake that resulted in an ongoing
    crisis in Fukushima.

    I've seen in my lifetime a pronounced and catastrophic loss of insect populations and fish in lakes, rivers and oceans. I've witnessed vast
    losses of rain forests in Central and South America. Farmland in North
    America is being lost to urban sprawl at a frightening rate. Based on
    what I've observed, there are far too many humans and mother nature is powerless to fight back against our destructive, mindless war against
    nature.


    I would not personally involve myself with some cull on moral grounds,
    but I do believe that there are far too many humans for the planet to
    support long term without degrading the planet to the point that the
    living would envy the dead.

    Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that soon!

    In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
    population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
    Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
    off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.

    ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.

    ZPG was and is a goal to achieve, not propaganda. ZPG is not a
    prediction, it is a desired goal by some people. The only failure was
    allowing Chamber of Commerce "growth is good" spokesholes to define net
    zero population growth as harmful, racist, xenophobic, nationlist and
    selfish.


    Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.

    One might make the same claim with regard to Joe Biden's foreign policy
    with regard to Ukraine and the state of Israel and his open borders
    policy with regard to "migrants".

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 5 23:57:48 2024
    XPost: alt.survival

    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 22:22:49 +0200, D wrote:

    Thinking of Stockholm, the different parts of the city are divided along party lines. Suburbs you have immigrants and criminals, one part is the financial sector, one parts the artsy people, one part lots of media
    people etc.

    Those would all seem like natural divisions.

    You could say the same of Baltimore.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to Loran on Thu Jun 6 00:51:03 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:36:07 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person >shrinkage/genocide?

    It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
    remained after a nuclear war. It would be far easier to maintain that
    level after such a war. Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
    KNOW if it would be far easier or not.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From CaLaVeRa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Jun 6 08:36:28 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On 6/6/2024 1:51 AM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:36:07 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
    shrinkage/genocide?

    It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
    remained after a nuclear war.

    The now demolitioned guidestones made no mention of such.

    It would be far easier to maintain that
    level after such a war.

    Along with mutations and disease efficacy, true.


    Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
    KNOW if it would be far easier or not.

    Hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which fills up first.

    Covid was just a test balloon.

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  • From CaLaVeRa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Jun 6 08:38:26 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On 6/6/2024 1:51 AM, KWills wrote:
    ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.

    ZPG isn't a prediction.

    It most certainly was a failed one:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/

    As 1968 began, Paul Ehrlich was an entomologist at Stanford University,
    known to his peers for his groundbreaking studies of the co-evolution of flowering plants and butterflies but almost unknown to the average
    person. That was about to change. In May, Ehrlich released a quickly
    written, cheaply bound paperback, The Population Bomb. Initially it was ignored. But over time Ehrlich’s tract would sell millions of copies and
    turn its author into a celebrity. It would become one of the most
    influential books of the 20th century—and one of the most heatedly attacked.

    The first sentence set the tone: “The battle to feed all of humanity is over.” And humanity had lost. In the 1970s, the book promised, “hundreds
    of millions of people are going to starve to death.” No matter what
    people do, “nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world
    death rate.”

    Published at a time of tremendous conflict and social upheaval,
    Ehrlich’s book argued that many of the day’s most alarming events had a single, underlying cause: Too many people, packed into too-tight spaces,
    taking too much from the earth. Unless humanity cut down its numbers—soon—all of us would face “mass starvation” on “a dying planet.”

    Ehrlich, now 85, told me recently that the book’s main contribution was
    to make population control “acceptable” as “a topic to debate.” But the book did far more than that. It gave a huge jolt to the nascent
    environmental movement and fueled an anti-population-growth crusade that
    led to human rights abuses around the world.

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Thu Jun 6 09:55:19 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/5/2024 2:12 PM, Loran wrote:
    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/5/2024 9:36 AM, Loran wrote:
    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
    shrinkage/genocide?


     From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say
    500 million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a
    chance to support all life in the long term.

    You'd be both:

    1. wrong
    2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations


    One can't be proven wrong per events that haven't happened yet

    Never heard of paleo-climates and the fossil record, or remnant magnetism?

    Seriously?

    We use the past as prologue with scientific method to confirm constantly.


    and to
    your second point, one can't provide critical proofs and citations per a future that has yet to come to pass.

    Wrong again - see Revelations.


    I am reminded of a Japanese
    geologist who predicted a tsunami and earthquake would cause a meltdown
    of the Daichi nuclear reactors in Fukushima before 2011.  He was
    silenced, cancelled, fired and dismissed as essentially "in deficit of critical proofs and citations" so that General Electric could build the nuclear reactors in the earthquake, tsunami prone area.  The media
    whores and bureaucrats who laughed at him and scorned his warnings were proven wrong by the tsunami and earthquake that resulted in an ongoing
    crisis in Fukushima.

    Yes, all true.

    I've seen in my lifetime a pronounced and catastrophic loss of insect populations and fish in lakes, rivers and oceans.  I've witnessed vast losses of rain forests in Central and South America.  Farmland in North America is being lost to urban sprawl at a frightening rate.  Based on
    what I've observed, there are far too many humans and mother nature is powerless to fight back against our destructive, mindless war against
    nature.

    But that isn't a malady of numbers, it's rather a rigged game by our
    masters of enforced artificial scarcity.

    Slaves do as told, or work endlessly to escape that control matrix.

    Both scenarios cause despoliation, which the global elites both cause,
    lampoon, and continue to let happen.

    I would not personally involve myself with some cull on moral
    grounds, but I do believe that there are far too many humans for the
    planet to support long term without degrading the planet to the point
    that the living would envy the dead.

    Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of
    that soon!

    In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
    population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
    Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
    off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.

    ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.

    ZPG was and is a goal to achieve, not propaganda.

    No it was failed propaganda.


    ZPG is not a
    prediction, it is a desired goal by some people.

    Bullshit it sure as Hell was a prediction:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/

    The first sentence set the tone: “The battle to feed all of humanity is over.” And humanity had lost. In the 1970s, the book promised, “hundreds
    of millions of people are going to starve to death.” No matter what
    people do, “nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world
    death rate.”

    Published at a time of tremendous conflict and social upheaval,
    Ehrlich’s book argued that many of the day’s most alarming events had a single, underlying cause: Too many people, packed into too-tight spaces,
    taking too much from the earth. Unless humanity cut down its numbers—soon—all of us would face “mass starvation” on “a dying planet.”


    The only failure was
    allowing Chamber of Commerce "growth is good" spokesholes to define net
    zero population growth as harmful, racist, xenophobic, nationlist and selfish.

    This is generally true, but somewhat beside the point of the scripted
    Covid genocide we just were subjected to by...wait for it...OUR OWN
    GLOBAL ELITES!

    Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe
    for genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.

    One might make the same claim with regard to Joe Biden's foreign policy
    with regard to Ukraine and the state of Israel and his open borders
    policy with regard to "migrants".

    And one would be entirely correct!

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Jun 6 09:46:28 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 14:12:26 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/5/2024 9:36 AM, Loran wrote:
    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
    shrinkage/genocide?

    From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500 >>> million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance
    to support all life in the long term.

    You'd be both:

    1. wrong

    Possible.

    2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations


    How would Lucas offer proof and citations for a personal
    observation?

    With supportive citations from said places, duh.

    And then expansion of the micro cases into the macro, duh.



    I would not personally involve
    myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are
    far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
    degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead.

    Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that
    soon!


    How? Are you expecting an ice comet to land on earth?

    That has happened before and will again.

    Rev. 8: 10-12


    “The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a
    torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water—the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned
    bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.”

    In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
    population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
    Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
    off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.

    ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.


    ZPG isn't a prediction.

    Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for
    genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.

    Unlikely. Most accept that it was to be a means of running the
    world after a nuclear war.

    No, there is no "most", that's a fictional appeal to a consensus
    definition of the guidestones' purpose and authorship where none exists.

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Loran on Thu Jun 6 12:04:38 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On 6/6/2024 9:55 AM, Loran wrote:

    ZPG was and is a goal to achieve, not propaganda.

    No it was failed propaganda.


    ZPG is not a prediction, it is a desired goal by some people.

    Bullshit it sure as Hell was a prediction:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/

    The first sentence set the tone: “The battle to feed all of humanity is over.” And humanity had lost. In the 1970s, the book promised, “hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death.” No matter what
    people do, “nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world
    death rate.”

    Published at a time of tremendous conflict and social upheaval,
    Ehrlich’s book argued that many of the day’s most alarming events had a single, underlying cause: Too many people, packed into too-tight spaces, taking too much from the earth. Unless humanity cut down its numbers—soon—all of us would face “mass starvation” on “a dying planet.”


    Zero population growth is a concept and an ideal completely removed and
    apart from a book by the same title or acronym. Governor Dick Lamm of
    Colorado and Governor Tom McCall in Oregon both subscribed to limited population growth in an attempt to preserve the qualities that made both
    states a target destination for people fleeing California due to its
    urban sprawl and massive growth in the post World War II period.

    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
    Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced the
    best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a dried
    up wasteland ever since irrigation water there was diverted to Pueblo
    and Colorado Springs to provide water for "newcomers" who moved to my
    state from California and from across the Mexican border.

    You are arguing that through water diversion projects and turning
    farmland into cities that the earth can provide all that is needed for
    more humans to continue to multiply. I am countering that the price
    paid for that growth in terms of loss of land, wildlife, fish, birds,
    forests, and wilderness is unacceptable to thinking people.

    The U.S. reached ZPG in the '70s. It's a pity that "employers" and
    their bought off politicians were unhappy with the replacement fertility
    rate and decided that endless population growth is preferable to clean
    air, clean water, and a land of plenty.


    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Thu Jun 6 12:59:01 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/6/2024 9:55 AM, Loran wrote:

    ZPG was and is a goal to achieve, not propaganda.

    No it was failed propaganda.


    ZPG is not a prediction, it is a desired goal by some people.

    Bullshit it sure as Hell was a prediction:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/


    The first sentence set the tone: “The battle to feed all of humanity
    is over.” And humanity had lost. In the 1970s, the book promised,
    “hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death.” No
    matter what people do, “nothing can prevent a substantial increase in
    the world death rate.”

    Published at a time of tremendous conflict and social upheaval,
    Ehrlich’s book argued that many of the day’s most alarming events had
    a single, underlying cause: Too many people, packed into too-tight
    spaces, taking too much from the earth. Unless humanity cut down its
    numbers—soon—all of us would face “mass starvation” on “a dying planet.”


    Zero population growth is a concept and an ideal completely removed and
    apart from a book by the same title or acronym.

    That book and that author are what drove ZPG as a topic de jour into the
    pubic eye.

    His predictions (as illustrated) all failed, same as Al Gore's loopy
    climate change predictions that Florida would be underwater now also failed.

    Junk science!

    Governor Dick Lamm of
    Colorado and Governor Tom McCall in Oregon both subscribed to limited population growth in an attempt to preserve the qualities that made both states a target destination for people fleeing California due to its
    urban sprawl and massive growth in the post World War II period.

    And both were monumental failures by chasing off road and bridge
    infrastructure that would have been nice to have after the growth
    inevitably did come.

    In Denver Dipshit Lamm cost Colorado a looped/beltway federal interstate highway, consigning them to 40 years of on again/off again public and
    privately funded tolled parkway loops.

    McCall?

    https://www.freedomworks.org/oregon-land-use-law-40-years-of-failed-planning/

    The study showed that under current law, by 2050 approximately 6.64% of
    the Willamette Valley would be urbanized. If SB100 were to be repealed,
    that rate of urbanization would skyrocket … to 7.64%.

    So here we have legislation with the original goals of reducing housing
    costs, containing sprawl, protecting farm and forest land, and
    diversifying Oregon’s industrial base. None of these goals have been achieved, and yet we remain just as dedicated today to this Rube
    Goldberg legal contraption as we were 40 years ago.

    And our freedoms continue to slowly slip away, in favor of centralized government planning.


    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced the
    best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a dried
    up wasteland

    No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
    high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

    And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
    abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.

    Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

    You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
    Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

    https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf


    ever since irrigation water there was diverted to Pueblo
    and Colorado Springs to provide water for "newcomers" who moved to my
    state from California and from across the Mexican border.

    By "there" you refer to the Arkansas River Valley water in Lamar and La
    Junta?

    Unsurprising if true.

    You are arguing that through water diversion projects and turning
    farmland into cities that the earth can provide all that is needed for
    more humans to continue to multiply.

    Never tell me what I am arguing!

    I always say precisely what I mean.

    I never said that on diversions and dams.

    I am a fan of hydroponics and drip irrigation, fwiw.

    I am countering that the price
    paid for that growth in terms of loss of land, wildlife, fish, birds, forests, and wilderness is unacceptable to thinking people.

    But that exact price will be paid except in desert cities where they
    will recycle waster water into consumptive use for humans soon, not just
    golf courses - which also are a travesty of water waste!

    The U.S. reached ZPG in the '70s.

    As have many developed nations, which then gets blamed for economic
    stagnation.

    It's a pity that "employers" and
    their bought off politicians were unhappy with the replacement fertility
    rate and decided that endless population growth is preferable to clean
    air, clean water, and a land of plenty.

    I 100% agree with that overall sentiment!

    But you need to get your facts straight.

    Drip irrigated farms and indoor hydroponics are a viable and well-tested
    answer to consumptive agricultural water waste.

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Loran on Thu Jun 6 15:55:14 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On 6/6/2024 12:59 PM, Loran wrote:

    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
    Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
    the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
    dried up wasteland

    No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
    high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

    And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.

    Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

    You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
    Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

    https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf

    No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
    pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
    to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
    Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.

    https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 6 16:22:05 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    In article <v3tb82$1m52l$1@dont-email.me>, Lucas_McCain@tutanato.com
    says...

    On 6/6/2024 12:59 PM, Loran wrote:

    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
    Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
    the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
    dried up wasteland

    No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
    high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

    And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.

    Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

    You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

    https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf

    No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
    pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
    to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
    Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.

    Hey! I live there. It's hot today.

    https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to CaLaVeRa on Fri Jun 7 01:15:53 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 08:36:28 -0600, CaLaVeRa <cv@invalid.org> wrote:

    On 6/6/2024 1:51 AM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:36:07 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
    shrinkage/genocide?

    It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
    remained after a nuclear war.

    The now demolitioned guidestones made no mention of such.


    Which is why I pointed out *it's thought.*
    Bar someone who was involved in designing them telling the world
    what was intended, a thought is about as good as anyone can get.

    It would be far easier to maintain that
    level after such a war.

    Along with mutations and disease efficacy, true.


    Yep.


    Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
    KNOW if it would be far easier or not.

    Hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which fills up first.

    Covid was just a test balloon.

    Did you study? :)

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to Loran on Fri Jun 7 01:16:48 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:55:19 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    [...]

    and to
    your second point, one can't provide critical proofs and citations per a
    future that has yet to come to pass.

    Wrong again - see Revelations.

    <Pedantic mode>

    It's Revelation.

    </mode>

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Fri Jun 7 12:14:47 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/6/2024 12:59 PM, Loran wrote:

    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
    Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
    the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
    dried up wasteland

    No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
    high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

    And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
    abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.

    Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

    You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford,
    La Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

    https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf >>

    No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
    pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
    to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
    Springs and Pueblo.  It was formerly an agricultural area.

    https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around


    Old news for that area, also they do not grow much in the way of melons
    there - too high in altitude:

    "About 80% of Colorado’s water falls on the western side of the state.
    Much of it is high-mountain snow and rain that eventually trickles down
    into streams and rivers like the ones on Independence Pass.

    But about 80% of Colorado’s people live on the east side of the
    mountains. Because of gravity, that water doesn’t flow to them
    naturally. Instead, Colorado’s heavily-populated Front Range relies on a massive plumbing system to keep drinking water flowing to its taps.

    For a century and a half, engineers have carved up the mountains with
    tunnels and canals that pipe water across the state through
    trans-mountain diversions. Some of that infrastructure is nestled near
    the high-alpine headwaters of the Roaring Fork River, which eventually
    flows through Aspen and Glenwood Springs on its way to the Colorado
    River. Near Lost Man reservoir, a dam and tunnel create a juncture
    between water that will follow that natural path westward to the
    Colorado, and water that will be diverted eastward through the mountains
    and onto cities such as Colorado Springs."

    As for ag:

    https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado

    "In Colorado, Indigenous peoples contended with limited precipitation by building dams, canals, and terraces to irrigate food crops in the desert Southwest, including parts of the Arkansas River Valley. When
    Anglo-Americans arrived in Colorado, they found plains tribes growing
    the three sisters: corn, beans, and squash.


    Chaffee County

    In the 1920s, Buena Vista became known as the “Head Lettuce Capital of
    the World.” Lettuce is well-suited to Chaffee County’s short growing season, and Buena Vista benefited from other favorable conditions—ice
    and transportation. During winter and spring, workers cut large blocks
    of ice from Franklin Reservoir, better known as Ice Lake, which supplied millions of pounds of ice that kept lettuce cold during transport to
    East Coast markets via the nearby Denver and Rio Grande rail line.

    G.D. Isabel deserves much of the credit for Chaffee County’s
    once-burgeoning lettuce industry. In 1918, he rented 10 acres on the
    Burleson Farm near Buena Vista. Later that year, he harvested enough
    lettuce to fill a train car, earning him approximately $7,000. By 1921,
    local lettuce growers had organized the Colorado Co-operative Lettuce Growers’ Association at Buena Vista, which also handled other produce
    like peas and cauliflower.

    Lettuce is still grown in the region, along with produce like squash,
    carrots, broccoli, and herbs. Farm commodity sales in Chaffee County
    total $12,237,000 annually. But now hay, including alfalfa, dominates
    the county’s crop production, and most of the hay which supports the
    area’s cattle ranching."

    So no real ag disaster there, just a transition to the rafting industry
    and hospitality.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 7 12:20:00 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    In article <v3viri$260ke$2@dont-email.me>, loran@invalid.net says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <v3tb82$1m52l$1@dont-email.me>, Lucas_McCain@tutanato.com says...

    On 6/6/2024 12:59 PM, Loran wrote:

    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in >>>> Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
    the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a >>>> dried up wasteland

    No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the >>> high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

    And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and >>> abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver. >>>
    Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

    You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La >>> Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

    https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf

    No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
    pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due >> to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
    Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.

    Hey! I live there. It's hot today.

    https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around


    You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.

    Weed is now...LOL

    https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado

    How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?

    Not is a while.

    https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html

    The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after Merrifield?s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long
    time coming.

    ?We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ?69, ?70. Then in
    ?85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs? water and
    built these three large greenhouses,? Merrifield said. ?Things really
    started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for
    the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we?ve
    really been at this for 23 years.?

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to KWills on Fri Jun 7 12:39:49 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:55:19 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    [...]

    and to
    your second point, one can't provide critical proofs and citations per a >>> future that has yet to come to pass.

    Wrong again - see Revelations.

    <Pedantic mode>

    It's Revelation.

    </mode>

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    And:

    https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/8/verse/18

    The cosmic play of the various planes of existence in the universe is astounding. The fourteen worlds and their planetary systems undergo
    repeated cycles of sṛiṣhṭi, sthiti, and pralaya (creation, preservation, and dissolution). All planetary systems, up to the Mahar Lok, are
    destroyed at the end of a kalp; that is Brahma’s day of 4.32 billion
    years. This partial dissolution is called naimittik pralaya. When
    Shukdev Paramhans narrated the Shrimad Bhagavatam to Parikshit, he
    stated that Brahma creates these worlds similar to a child playing with
    his toys. A child builds structures with his toys during the day and
    pulls them apart before going to bed at night. Similarly, when Brahma
    wakes up, he creates the planetary systems and their life forms and
    dissolves them before going to sleep.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/evidence-for-a-flood-102813115/

    "...the fountains of the great deep [were] broken up, and the windows of
    the heavens were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and
    forty nights."

    This quote from the Book of Genesis is part of a familiar tale — the
    story of Noah's flood. Scholars have known for a long time that the
    Bible isn't the only place this story is found — in fact, the biblical
    story is similar to a much older Mesopotamian flood story in the epic of Gilgamesh. Scholars usually attribute things like the worldwide
    occurrence of flood stories to common human experiences and our love of repeating good stories, but recently scientists have started to uncover evidence that Noah's flood may have a basis in some rather astonishing
    events that took place around the Black Sea some 7,500 years ago.

    https://www.litcharts.com/lit/the-epic-of-gilgamesh/part-5-the-story-of-the-flood

    This chapter consists of the story that Utnapishtim tells Gilgamesh. It
    begins in Shurrupak, a city built along the Euphrates river. The city
    was growing quickly. The god Enlil hears the sounds of the city and
    complains that it’s impossible to sleep because of all the noise. The
    gods agree to wipe out all the mortals. Enlil attempts to do so, but the
    god Ea appears in Utnapishtim’s dream and warns him to take apart his
    house and build a boat of specific dimensions.

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Fri Jun 7 12:17:23 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <v3tb82$1m52l$1@dont-email.me>, Lucas_McCain@tutanato.com
    says...

    On 6/6/2024 12:59 PM, Loran wrote:

    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
    Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
    the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
    dried up wasteland

    No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
    high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

    And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
    abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver. >>>
    Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

    You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
    Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

    https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf >>
    No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
    pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
    to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
    Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.

    Hey! I live there. It's hot today.

    https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around


    You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.

    https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado

    How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?

    https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html

    The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after Merrifield’s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long
    time coming.

    “We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ‘69, ‘70. Then in ‘85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs’ water and
    built these three large greenhouses,’ Merrifield said. “Things really started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for
    the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we’ve
    really been at this for 23 years.”

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to KWills on Fri Jun 7 12:33:35 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:46:28 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 14:12:26 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/5/2024 9:36 AM, Loran wrote:
    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person >>>>>> shrinkage/genocide?

    From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500 >>>>> million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance >>>>> to support all life in the long term.

    You'd be both:

    1. wrong

    Possible.

    2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations

    How would Lucas offer proof and citations for a personal
    observation?

    With supportive citations from said places, duh.


    So these places can confirm an observation?

    One would have to hope so, generally speaking.

    Things are either as he observed or not.

    And then expansion of the micro cases into the macro, duh.


    Ibid.

    Ipso facto.



    I would not personally involve
    myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are >>>>> far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
    degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead. >>>>
    Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that >>>> soon!

    How? Are you expecting an ice comet to land on earth?

    That has happened before and will again.

    Rev. 8: 10-12


    “The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a
    torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of
    water—the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned
    bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.”


    That you believe the Bible is all well and good.

    It's by far not just the Bible.

    It's in most major faith's histories.


    But nothing in
    the passage you quote is about getting more water. It's about a third
    of the water already present being poisonous.

    The water overflows and floods = more water.

    Cometary and planetary bodies do have water.

    Study Tiamat.

    In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
    population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
    Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy >>>>> off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.

    ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.

    ZPG isn't a prediction.

    Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for >>>> genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.

    Unlikely. Most accept that it was to be a means of running the
    world after a nuclear war.

    No, there is no "most", that's a fictional appeal to a consensus
    definition of the guidestones' purpose and authorship where none exists.

    Poor word choice on my part. Perhaps 'many' is a better word to
    use. If you want to get real picky, 'some' can be used.
    No one, except those who designed them, can KNOW what was
    intended.

    Wrong.

    The builder obtained bank financing for this project, others knew plenty
    and remained silent.

    We can come to a conclusion based on the evidence available.
    And a means to help ensure the world continues is a reasonable
    conclusion.

    Not by genocide it's not!

    Are you insane??

    They were made during the 'cold war.'

    Bzzzznt!!!

    Wrong.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

    Construction
    In June 1979, a man using the pseudonym Robert C. Christian approached
    the Elberton Granite Finishing Company on behalf of "a small group of
    loyal Americans", and commissioned the structure. Christian explained
    that the stones would function as a compass, calendar, and clock, and
    should be capable of "withstanding catastrophic events".[1] The man
    reportedly used the pseudonym as a reference to the Christian
    religion.[2][11] Christian said that he wanted to build a granite
    monument that would rival the British Neolithic monument Stonehenge,
    which he drew inspiration from after paying it a visit.[12][13] However,
    he said that while it was impressive, Stonehenge had no message to communicate.[13]

    Joe Fendley of Elberton Granite believed that Christian was "a nut" and
    he attempted to discourage him by providing a price quote for the
    commission which was several times higher than any project which the
    company had previously undertaken, explaining that the construction of
    the guidestones would require additional tools and consultants. To
    Fendley's surprise, Christian accepted the quote.[1] When arranging
    payment, Christian claimed that he represented a group which had been
    planning to construct the guidestones for 20 years and wanted to remain anonymous.[1] Christian said he had chosen Elbert County because of its abundance of local granite, the rural nature of its landscape, its mild climate, and family ties to the region.[2][14][4] The total cost of the
    project was not revealed, but it was over US$100,000 (equivalent to
    $400,000 in 2023).[4]

    Christian delivered a scale model of the guidestones and ten pages of specifications.[1] The 5-acre (2-hectare) site was purchased by
    Christian from a local farm owner.[15] The owner and his children were
    given lifetime cattle grazing rights on the guidestones site.[1] The
    monument was located off Georgia State Route 77 around 7 miles (11 km)
    north of the city of Elberton.[16][17][18]

    On March 22, 1980, the monument was unveiled by congressman Doug Barnard
    before an audience of between 200 and 300 people.[13][2] At the
    unveiling, the Master of Ceremonies read a message to the gathered audience:

    In order to avoid debate, we the sponsors of the Georgia Guidestones
    have a simple message for human beings, now and for the future. We
    believe our precepts are sound, and they must stand on their own merits.

    — Purported statement of Georgia Guidestones sponsors[14]
    Christian later transferred ownership of the land and the guidestones to
    Elbert County.[15] By 1981, barbed wire fencing had to be erected around
    the monument to keep cattle out, as they had been using it for a
    scratching post.[4]

    A man who identified himself as Robert Christian published a book titled
    Common Sense Renewed (1986), which described the ideology of the
    guidestones. The author wrote:

    I am the originator of the Georgia Guidestones and the sole author of
    its inscriptions. I have had the assistance of a number of other
    American citizens in bringing the monument into being. We have no
    mysterious purposes or ulterior motives. We seek common sense pathways
    to a peaceful world, without bias for particular creeds or philosophies.

    — "Robert Christian" (1986)[19]

    Nuclear war was possible.
    Had it happened, the population of the earth would be decreased. Not
    just from the initial explosions, but from the fallout and continued radioactivity.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    Their warnings were not couched in that nomenclature nor representative
    of the bunker mentality of the cold war, of course.

    You should study up before you pop off again, pal.

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Fri Jun 7 14:25:10 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <v3viri$260ke$2@dont-email.me>, loran@invalid.net says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <v3tb82$1m52l$1@dont-email.me>, Lucas_McCain@tutanato.com
    says...

    On 6/6/2024 12:59 PM, Loran wrote:

    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in >>>>>> Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced >>>>>> the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a >>>>>> dried up wasteland

    No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the >>>>> high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

    And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and >>>>> abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver. >>>>>
    Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

    You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La >>>>> Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

    https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf

    No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
    pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due >>>> to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
    Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.

    Hey! I live there. It's hot today.

    https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around


    You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.

    Weed is now...LOL

    Which is all grown inside under lock and key - those grow houses have a
    an eerie glow at night.


    https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado >>
    How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?

    Not is a while.

    This new one looks nicer than the Mt. Princeton by the river ones.


    https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html

    The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after
    Merrifield?s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long
    time coming.

    ?We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ?69, ?70. Then in
    ?85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs? water and
    built these three large greenhouses,? Merrifield said. ?Things really
    started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for
    the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we?ve
    really been at this for 23 years.?



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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 7 16:14:10 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    In article <v3vqb5$27lis$1@dont-email.me>, loran@invalid.net says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <v3viri$260ke$2@dont-email.me>, loran@invalid.net says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <v3tb82$1m52l$1@dont-email.me>, Lucas_McCain@tutanato.com
    says...

    On 6/6/2024 12:59 PM, Loran wrote:

    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in >>>>>> Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced >>>>>> the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a >>>>>> dried up wasteland

    No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the >>>>> high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

    And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and >>>>> abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.

    Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

    You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La >>>>> Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

    https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf

    No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic >>>> pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due >>>> to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
    Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.

    Hey! I live there. It's hot today.

    https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around


    You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.

    Weed is now...LOL

    Which is all grown inside under lock and key - those grow houses have a
    an eerie glow at night.

    There are some outdoor grows. Maggies Farm was all outdoor. 2 years ago
    we had a late freeze that killed some grows and the prices went up a
    tad.


    https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado

    How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?

    Not is a while.

    This new one looks nicer than the Mt. Princeton by the river ones.

    We got one right outside town that is nude except on Tuesdays. I don't
    go, this is a retirement town so I know what the women look like.


    https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html

    The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after >> Merrifield?s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long >> time coming.

    ?We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ?69, ?70. Then in
    ?85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs? water and
    built these three large greenhouses,? Merrifield said. ?Things really
    started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for >> the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we?ve
    really been at this for 23 years.?



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  • From CaLaVeRa@21:1/5 to KWills on Fri Jun 7 15:53:05 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On 6/7/2024 2:15 AM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 08:36:28 -0600, CaLaVeRa <cv@invalid.org> wrote:

    On 6/6/2024 1:51 AM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:36:07 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
    shrinkage/genocide?

    It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
    remained after a nuclear war.

    The now demolitioned guidestones made no mention of such.


    Which is why I pointed out *it's thought.*
    Bar someone who was involved in designing them telling the world
    what was intended, a thought is about as good as anyone can get.

    They went up in 1979, not really our key concern at that time.


    It would be far easier to maintain that
    level after such a war.

    Along with mutations and disease efficacy, true.


    Yep.

    Illuminati Island of Dr. Moreau


    Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
    KNOW if it would be far easier or not.

    Hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which fills up first.

    Covid was just a test balloon.

    Did you study? :)

    Nah, I skipped out but aced the PCR levels easy.

    I only study for finals.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to Loran on Sat Jun 8 00:31:37 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 12:33:35 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    [Snips to focus on this one point.]

    They were made during the 'cold war.'

    Bzzzznt!!!

    Wrong.

    The cold war occurred from 1947 to 1991.
    You may read more here, if you wish:

    https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/cold-war-history

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to CaLaVeRa on Sat Jun 8 00:31:09 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 15:53:05 -0600, CaLaVeRa <cv@invalid.org> wrote:

    On 6/7/2024 2:15 AM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 08:36:28 -0600, CaLaVeRa <cv@invalid.org> wrote:

    On 6/6/2024 1:51 AM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:36:07 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

    Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones

    Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

    Excellent commandment.

    How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
    shrinkage/genocide?

    It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
    remained after a nuclear war.

    The now demolitioned guidestones made no mention of such.


    Which is why I pointed out *it's thought.*
    Bar someone who was involved in designing them telling the world
    what was intended, a thought is about as good as anyone can get.

    They went up in 1979, not really our key concern at that time.


    Maybe not everyone's concern.


    It would be far easier to maintain that
    level after such a war.

    Along with mutations and disease efficacy, true.

    Yep.

    Illuminati Island of Dr. Moreau

    Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
    KNOW if it would be far easier or not.

    Hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which fills up first.

    Covid was just a test balloon.

    Did you study? :)

    Nah, I skipped out but aced the PCR levels easy.

    I only study for finals.

    I remember those days :)

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Jun 8 08:37:30 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <v3vqb5$27lis$1@dont-email.me>, loran@invalid.net says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <v3viri$260ke$2@dont-email.me>, loran@invalid.net says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <v3tb82$1m52l$1@dont-email.me>, Lucas_McCain@tutanato.com >>>>> says...

    On 6/6/2024 12:59 PM, Loran wrote:

    Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in >>>>>>>> Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced >>>>>>>> the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a >>>>>>>> dried up wasteland

    No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the >>>>>>> high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

    And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and >>>>>>> abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.

    Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

    You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La >>>>>>> Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

    https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf

    No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic >>>>>> pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due >>>>>> to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado >>>>>> Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.

    Hey! I live there. It's hot today.

    https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around


    You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.

    Weed is now...LOL

    Which is all grown inside under lock and key - those grow houses have a
    an eerie glow at night.

    There are some outdoor grows. Maggies Farm was all outdoor. 2 years ago
    we had a late freeze that killed some grows and the prices went up a
    tad.


    https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado

    How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?

    Not is a while.

    This new one looks nicer than the Mt. Princeton by the river ones.

    We got one right outside town that is nude except on Tuesdays. I don't
    go, this is a retirement town so I know what the women look like.

    I totally can envision the folds!



    https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html

    The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after >>>> Merrifield?s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long >>>> time coming.

    ?We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ?69, ?70. Then in
    ?85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs? water and
    built these three large greenhouses,? Merrifield said. ?Things really
    started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for >>>> the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we?ve
    really been at this for 23 years.?





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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Jun 8 08:51:38 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    KWills wrote:
    The cold war occurred from 1947 to 1991.

    Not one aspect of the Georgia Guidestones history contains a single cold
    war reference, period.

    Wise up.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

    Construction
    In June 1979, a man using the pseudonym Robert C. Christian approached
    the Elberton Granite Finishing Company on behalf of "a small group of
    loyal Americans", and commissioned the structure. Christian explained
    that the stones would function as a compass, calendar, and clock, and
    should be capable of "withstanding catastrophic events".[1] The man
    reportedly used the pseudonym as a reference to the Christian
    religion.[2][11] Christian said that he wanted to build a granite
    monument that would rival the British Neolithic monument Stonehenge,
    which he drew inspiration from after paying it a visit.[12][13] However,
    he said that while it was impressive, Stonehenge had no message to communicate.[13]

    Joe Fendley of Elberton Granite believed that Christian was "a nut" and
    he attempted to discourage him by providing a price quote for the
    commission which was several times higher than any project which the
    company had previously undertaken, explaining that the construction of
    the guidestones would require additional tools and consultants. To
    Fendley's surprise, Christian accepted the quote.[1] When arranging
    payment, Christian claimed that he represented a group which had been
    planning to construct the guidestones for 20 years and wanted to remain anonymous.[1] Christian said he had chosen Elbert County because of its abundance of local granite, the rural nature of its landscape, its mild climate, and family ties to the region.[2][14][4] The total cost of the
    project was not revealed, but it was over US$100,000 (equivalent to
    $400,000 in 2023).[4]

    Christian delivered a scale model of the guidestones and ten pages of specifications.[1] The 5-acre (2-hectare) site was purchased by
    Christian from a local farm owner.[15] The owner and his children were
    given lifetime cattle grazing rights on the guidestones site.[1] The
    monument was located off Georgia State Route 77 around 7 miles (11 km)
    north of the city of Elberton.[16][17][18]

    On March 22, 1980, the monument was unveiled by congressman Doug Barnard
    before an audience of between 200 and 300 people.[13][2] At the
    unveiling, the Master of Ceremonies read a message to the gathered audience:

    In order to avoid debate, we the sponsors of the Georgia Guidestones
    have a simple message for human beings, now and for the future. We
    believe our precepts are sound, and they must stand on their own merits.

    — Purported statement of Georgia Guidestones sponsors[14]
    Christian later transferred ownership of the land and the guidestones to
    Elbert County.[15] By 1981, barbed wire fencing had to be erected around
    the monument to keep cattle out, as they had been using it for a
    scratching post.[4]

    A man who identified himself as Robert Christian published a book titled
    Common Sense Renewed (1986), which described the ideology of the
    guidestones. The author wrote:

    I am the originator of the Georgia Guidestones and the sole author of
    its inscriptions. I have had the assistance of a number of other
    American citizens in bringing the monument into being. We have no
    mysterious purposes or ulterior motives. We seek common sense pathways
    to a peaceful world, without bias for particular creeds or philosophies.

    — "Robert Christian" (1986)[19]

    And stop snipping the facts!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 8 20:37:46 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 08:51:38 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:


    The context you hate and fear has been restored at no additional cost.


    KWills wrote:
    [Snips to focus on this one point.]

    They were made during the 'cold war.'

    Bzzzznt!!!

    Wrong.

    The cold war occurred from 1947 to 1991.

    Not one aspect of the Georgia Guidestones history contains a single cold
    war reference, period.


    And I made no claim they did. Only that they were made during the
    'cold war,' as seen above. This is why there are people who think they
    were in regards to a world after a nuclear war.
    Your fear of truth and honesty won't change this. No amount of
    your dishonestly changing your claim, and snipping away that which
    proves you a liar, will change this.

    Wise up.

    The stones were made in 1979. They were unveiled in 1980. During
    the 'cold war.' You can run away from the truth as much as you feel
    you need. Reality will not change as a result.
    Since you've proved you cannot be honest, there is no point in my continuing a discussion with you. Feel free to post whatever
    deception(s) you feel you must, secure in the knowledge that I will
    not be the one to prove you've lied.
    You may even claim victory, if your dishonest nature demands it.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Loran@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Jun 9 11:24:35 2024
    XPost: alt.survival, talk.politics.guns, or.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.trump

    KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 08:51:38 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:


    The context you hate and fear has been restored at no additional cost.

    The high ground you think you have claimed is just reclaimed blather.

    KWills wrote:
    [Snips to focus on this one point.]

    They were made during the 'cold war.'

    Bzzzznt!!!

    Wrong.

    The cold war occurred from 1947 to 1991.

    Not one aspect of the Georgia Guidestones history contains a single cold
    war reference, period.


    And I made no claim they did. Only that they were made during the
    'cold war,' as seen above.

    Implication (an obvious one too) confirmed!



    This is why there are people who think they
    were in regards to a world after a nuclear war.

    Think they were what?


    Your fear of truth and honesty won't change this. No amount of
    your dishonestly changing your claim, and snipping away that which
    proves you a liar, will change this.

    I think you're having an excess Adderal moment here.


    Wise up.

    The stones were made in 1979. They were unveiled in 1980. During
    the 'cold war.' You can run away from the truth as much as you feel
    you need. Reality will not change as a result.

    Correlation is far from causation as no record of their being a cold war harbinger or predictor were ever made.

    Since you've proved you cannot be honest, there is no point in my continuing a discussion with you. Feel free to post whatever
    deception(s) you feel you must, secure in the knowledge that I will
    not be the one to prove you've lied.

    Iow run away bravely, Sir Robin.

    Ta.


    You may even claim victory, if your dishonest nature demands it.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.


    I think you have delusions of adequacy.

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