• The Official Story On Trump's Shooting Makes No Sense At All

    From Matt Walsh@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 17 21:05:07 2024
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    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump
    in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old
    acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential
    campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of
    Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone
    intervening and with no help from anyone.

    This 20-year-old is also so politically radical as to attempt an
    assassination and yet not radical enough to have ever posted any
    political writings or commentary on any social media site ever in his
    life. He also wrote no manifesto and left behind no indication about
    why he did it. Even after authorities gained access to his phone, they
    say they still have no clue about his motivations. All we’re told is
    that, for some reason, he obviously wanted Donald Trump dead. There’s
    just a handful of videos of the shooter circulating, including one in
    which he makes some weird sexual joke, and one in which he appears
    briefly in a Blackrock video featuring his high school classroom. Other
    than that, it’s as if he never existed.

    As far as we can tell, this man’s last and only political act, before attempting to kill the Republican candidate, was to register as a
    Republican. Oh and apparently, there were Trump signs outside of his
    parent’s home, where he was living. Watch:

    https://youtu.be/1KbC1dHo9_U

    We have no idea why these signs are outside the shooter’s home. We have
    no clarity on this point whatsoever because none of this makes sense
    and no one’s explaining anything. Nevertheless, you must believe the
    official narrative and ask no questions about it or else you are a
    conspiracy theorist. And one thing we know about assassination attempts
    is that there’s never any conspiring involved.

    As unbelievable and insulting as it is, this is the version of events
    you’re being told to accept. But with every hour that goes by, it
    somehow makes even less sense than it did before. Every new detail is
    more baffling than the last.

    Last night, for instance CBS News reported that several Beaver County
    police snipers were stationed _inside_ the building the shooter
    eventually climbed on top of. They were supposedly looking for threats
    in the crowd at the rally. There were no officers or snipers on the
    roof, for reasons that remain unexplained, even though that’d be the
    rational spot to place these snipers. But it’s now an uncontested fact
    that the shooter used the police staging area as a vantage point to
    shoot Donald Trump.

    According to the local outlet Beaver Countian, which broke the story,

    A security operations plan had placed each of the three
    counter-snipers inside of the building looking out of windows
    toward the rally, with none stationed on its roof. Due to a
    lack of manpower, the men did not have spotters assigned to
    them, as would be standard operating procedure.

    So maybe the excuse is that they couldn’t spare anyone to watch the
    roof. They just ran out of people. Obviously we need to know exactly
    who drafted that “security operations plan,” because that person should
    never be in charge of any security operation ever again.

    Nevertheless, roughly a half hour before the shooting started, these
    snipers positioned inside the building saw the 20-year-old shooter —
    without his rifle — “looking up at the roof observing the building”
    before he disappeared, then came back and sat down. This was so
    suspicious that one of the snipers inside the building took a photo of
    the gunman.

    Additionally, according to a separate local news station, “a law
    enforcement officer had also previously seen Crooks on the ground and
    called him in as a suspicious person with a picture before 5:45 p.m.”
    Officers supposedly looked around but couldn’t immediately find him.

    Just to review: this man was on the radar of the security forces at the
    rally 30 _minutes_ before he fired the first shot. And he fired it on
    top of the very same building where the police were staged.

    Already, 30 minutes before the crime took place, they had enough reason
    to detain this guy and delay the rally. But it gets even worse.

    At one point, in full view of the snipers inside the command post, the
    gunman, “took out a range finder,” prompting the police sniper to radio
    his command post. That meant that he alerted the Secret Service to the
    threat. But still, no one detained the man, and no one pulled Trump off
    the stage — even though there’s only one reason a suspicious person
    would be using a range finder right outside a Trump rally, and everyone
    knows what it is. There is no conceivable innocent reason for a guy to
    be lurking around the site of a campaign rally with a range finder. Or
    if there is an innocent reason, the innocent reason is significantly
    less plausible than the sinister reason. Yet nothing was done. So the
    man disappeared again, then came back a third time — this time carrying
    a backpack. And once again, the snipers called in to their command
    post, explaining that this suspicious man was now “walking towards the
    back of the building.” But nobody stopped him. Nobody took any physical
    action to prevent what they could evidently see coming.

    Apparently, all of these reports prompted some police officers to call
    for backup and try to scale the roof to stop the shooter. But they
    obviously failed to do so. The gunman climbed on top of the building
    using an air conditioning unit — not a ladder as previously reported —
    and fired several shots at Trump before he was taken out.

    So what explains why Donald Trump wasn’t taken off the stage at any
    point in this process, until a gunman shot him in the head? Why didn’t
    Secret Service snipers on the roof behind Trump take out this shooter
    before he was able to open fire? If you look at some of the videos from
    the rally, you’ll notice that initially, the snipers behind Trump
    appear to be relaxed at first. They’re standing up. They’re not in the
    prone position, looking through their rifle scopes. But then, some
    people in the bleachers see something. They start pointing. And
    eventually the Secret Service snipers go prone, clearly responding to a
    threat. Here are the two clips:

    https://youtu.be/rm5IFgY_zDA

    This is a much more serious failure than we were told it was. This is
    not a case of the Secret Service somehow failing to notice the shooter.
    They clearly knew he was there, or that some potentially imminent
    threat was very close to the stage. We know that from the video. We
    know it from the reporting. At a minimum, they had reason to think that
    Trump was in imminent danger. But they essentially did nothing in
    response. They let Trump take a bullet to the head before they
    addressed the threat in any way.

    According to the Biden administration, we shouldn’t be outraged or
    concerned about any of this. Yesterday, the head of the DHS, Alejandro Mayorkas, explained that he has “100% confidence” in the director of
    the Secret Service (whom he oversees). Watch:

    https://youtu.be/SVvpagp1-QI

    This is the same Alejandro Mayorkas who claims the border is completely
    secure. Now he’s saying he has 100% confidence in the director of the
    Secret Service, three days after the Secret Service allowed the leading presidential candidate to take a head-shot from a rifle while he
    delivered a speech on stage. The only conceivable way you’d have “100 % confidence” in this agency, and the people who lead it, is if you’re
    absolutely fine with that outcome. At this point it’s not really a
    conspiracy theory to say that the Biden administration apparently
    thinks Saturday’s assassination attempt was acceptable. They’re coming
    right out and saying it to our faces. If it was unacceptable, they
    would fire the people who allowed it to happen. But they aren’t.

    Saying you have 100% confidence in the Secret Service after an incident
    like this is like looking out over the wreckage of a collapsed bridge
    and declaring that you have a 100% confidence in the engineering team
    that designed it. 100% confidence. Not even, like, 90% confidence, or
    73% confidence. Their utter and total and catastrophic failure has not
    lost them even one percentage point of confidence, in your book.

    And it’s not just the DHS secretary saying this. Last night, Joe Biden
    was asked by Lester Holt about the Director of the Secret Service. He
    made it clear he has no problems with the director’s performance. He
    also made it clear he has no idea who the director is, because he said
    “I’ve heard from him,” even though the director of the Secret Service
    is a woman. Watch:

    https://youtu.be/uStQ7A2JRsg

    So Biden may not be sure who the Director of the Secret Service is. But
    he’s sure that he, or she, or whoever, is doing a great job — as
    evidenced by the fact that her agents nearly got his chief political
    rival killed. And of course, because no one in the Biden administration
    has any shame whatsoever, the Secret Service director has said she has
    no intention of stepping aside. It’s just like the pullout from
    Afghanistan, which directly resulted in the deaths of several U.S. servicemembers. No one resigned after that debacle. No one was fired.
    No one in the government seemed to care, frankly. And we’re seeing that
    repeat after the single most significant security failure by the Secret
    Service since the attempt on Ronald Reagan’s life. Actually it’s worse
    than that. Based on everything we know now, we can say with a high
    degree of confidence that this is the worst security failure by the
    Secret Service in its history. But no one in any position of authority
    in the agency or outside of it will be held accountable in any way
    whatsoever.

    This is why our system of government has lost all the trust the public
    may have once had in it. There’s no sense of accountability or
    responsibility. If anything, these people are embracing their failures
    — almost as if they wanted them to happen. That means we’ll never be
    told the truth about what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.
    We’ll never be given the full story of how it happened. Why this guy
    was allowed to do this. And who this guy even is. And even if we are
    someday given all of this information, there will be no reason for any
    of us to believe any of it.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to daily@mailer.dailywire.com on Sat Jul 20 02:40:43 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:05:07 -0500, Matt Walsh
    <daily@mailer.dailywire.com> wrote:

    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump
    in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old >acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential
    campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of
    Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone
    intervening and with no help from anyone.

    [...]

    I do find it odd that he was able to get to the roof, line up his
    site, then fire. All while the Secret Service and law enforcement were
    unaware?

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Jul 20 11:24:23 2024
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    Governor Swill wrote:
    "Brave boys in blue," my ass!

    Swill

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    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
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    If trying to steal an election is an "official act", assassinating the
    asshole who did it
    should be too.

    Swill


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    ... but the stupid bitch missed.

    Swill

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sun Jul 21 04:27:55 2024
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    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:00:06 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 02:40:43 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:05:07 -0500, Matt Walsh
    <daily@mailer.dailywire.com> wrote:

    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump >>>in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old >>>acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential >>>campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of >>>Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone >>>intervening and with no help from anyone.

    [...]

    I do find it odd that he was able to get to the roof, line up his >>site, then fire. All while the Secret Service and law enforcement were >>unaware?

    What caught my attention was when several attendees brought the shooter to the attention
    of the local cops - and nobody did anything about it. Apparently they eventually notified
    the SS that there were reports of a shooter, but no action was taken. At least two
    different cops were near the roof, one tried to intervene but backed off - and stayed
    backed off - when the shooter aimed at him.

    "Brave boys in blue," my ass!

    It strikes me as very odd.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Convair@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Jul 21 14:15:04 2024
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    On 7/21/2024 12:52 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    Reichstag fire or failed conspiracy?

    Swill
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    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
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    If trying to steal an election is an "official act", assassinating the
    asshole who did it
    should be too.

    Swill


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    instead.
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    ... but the stupid bitch missed.

    Swill

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.nationalism.white,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    Subject: Re: AP Lies by Ommission About Identity of Invaders Charged with
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Mon Jul 22 02:45:28 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 14:52:56 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:27:55 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:00:06 -0400, Governor Swill >><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 02:40:43 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:05:07 -0500, Matt Walsh >>>><daily@mailer.dailywire.com> wrote:

    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump >>>>>in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old >>>>>acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential >>>>>campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of >>>>>Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone >>>>>intervening and with no help from anyone.

    [...]

    I do find it odd that he was able to get to the roof, line up his >>>>site, then fire. All while the Secret Service and law enforcement were >>>>unaware?

    What caught my attention was when several attendees brought the shooter to the attention
    of the local cops - and nobody did anything about it. Apparently they eventually notified
    the SS that there were reports of a shooter, but no action was taken. At least two
    different cops were near the roof, one tried to intervene but backed off - and stayed
    backed off - when the shooter aimed at him.

    "Brave boys in blue," my ass!

    It strikes me as very odd.

    Reichstag fire or failed conspiracy?

    As more information comes out, I think it's a lot of incompetent
    people.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 22 02:54:43 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    Who cares, he's too old and senile to serve anyway.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Jul 22 07:36:48 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 7/22/2024 5:29 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 02:45:28 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 14:52:56 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:27:55 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:00:06 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 02:40:43 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:05:07 -0500, Matt Walsh
    <daily@mailer.dailywire.com> wrote:

    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump >>>>>>> in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old
    acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential >>>>>>> campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of >>>>>>> Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone >>>>>>> intervening and with no help from anyone.

    [...]

    I do find it odd that he was able to get to the roof, line up his >>>>>> site, then fire. All while the Secret Service and law enforcement were >>>>>> unaware?

    What caught my attention was when several attendees brought the shooter to the attention
    of the local cops - and nobody did anything about it. Apparently they eventually notified
    the SS that there were reports of a shooter, but no action was taken. At least two
    different cops were near the roof, one tried to intervene but backed off - and stayed
    backed off - when the shooter aimed at him.

    "Brave boys in blue," my ass!

    It strikes me as very odd.

    Reichstag fire or failed conspiracy?

    As more information comes out, I think it's a lot of incompetent
    people.

    I suspect an undercurrent of "Who would shoot our leader in middle America?" A thought so
    alien, it can only invoke astonishment; disbelief.

    LEOs are a rich source of Republican votes and the left is not noted for violent
    solutions. The sin might have been incompetence brought on by overconfidence.

    Swill

    I agree. They had a lot of reasons to feel overconfident and relaxed. As
    with many things, there's little need to spend a lifetime searching for conspiracy theories for events that have fairly logical explanations.

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 22 08:54:43 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    super70s wrote:
    Who cares, he's too old and senile to serve anyway.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/letterstotheeditor/article/biden-trump-supreme-court-sf-judges-18696789.php

    Yes, President Biden is old, but here’s why his age doesn’t matter

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Jul 22 08:52:31 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    Governor Swill wrote:
    I suspect an undercurrent

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    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,or.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.atheism
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    If trying to steal an election is an "official act", assassinating the
    asshole who did it
    should be too.

    Swill


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    Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,pa.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns,sac.politics
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    instead.
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    ... but the stupid bitch missed.

    Swill

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From Fred Barchetta@21:1/5 to Matt Walsh on Mon Jul 22 10:36:05 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 7/17/2024 10:05 PM, Matt Walsh wrote:
    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump
    in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential
    campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of
    Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone
    intervening and with no help from anyone.

    This 20-year-old is also so politically radical as to attempt an assassination and yet not radical enough to have ever posted any
    political writings or commentary on any social media site ever in his
    life. He also wrote no manifesto and left behind no indication about
    why he did it. Even after authorities gained access to his phone, they
    say they still have no clue about his motivations. All we’re told is
    that, for some reason, he obviously wanted Donald Trump dead. There’s
    just a handful of videos of the shooter circulating, including one in
    which he makes some weird sexual joke, and one in which he appears
    briefly in a Blackrock video featuring his high school classroom. Other
    than that, it’s as if he never existed.

    As far as we can tell, this man’s last and only political act, before attempting to kill the Republican candidate, was to register as a
    Republican. Oh and apparently, there were Trump signs outside of his parent’s home, where he was living. Watch:

    https://youtu.be/1KbC1dHo9_U

    We have no idea why these signs are outside the shooter’s home. We have
    no clarity on this point whatsoever because none of this makes sense
    and no one’s explaining anything. Nevertheless, you must believe the official narrative and ask no questions about it or else you are a
    conspiracy theorist. And one thing we know about assassination attempts
    is that there’s never any conspiring involved.

    As unbelievable and insulting as it is, this is the version of events you’re being told to accept. But with every hour that goes by, it
    somehow makes even less sense than it did before. Every new detail is
    more baffling than the last.

    Last night, for instance CBS News reported that several Beaver County
    police snipers were stationed _inside_ the building the shooter
    eventually climbed on top of. They were supposedly looking for threats
    in the crowd at the rally. There were no officers or snipers on the
    roof, for reasons that remain unexplained, even though that’d be the rational spot to place these snipers. But it’s now an uncontested fact
    that the shooter used the police staging area as a vantage point to
    shoot Donald Trump.

    According to the local outlet Beaver Countian, which broke the story,

    A security operations plan had placed each of the three
    counter-snipers inside of the building looking out of windows
    toward the rally, with none stationed on its roof. Due to a
    lack of manpower, the men did not have spotters assigned to
    them, as would be standard operating procedure.

    So maybe the excuse is that they couldn’t spare anyone to watch the
    roof. They just ran out of people. Obviously we need to know exactly
    who drafted that “security operations plan,” because that person should never be in charge of any security operation ever again.

    Nevertheless, roughly a half hour before the shooting started, these
    snipers positioned inside the building saw the 20-year-old shooter — without his rifle — “looking up at the roof observing the building” before he disappeared, then came back and sat down. This was so
    suspicious that one of the snipers inside the building took a photo of
    the gunman.

    Additionally, according to a separate local news station, “a law enforcement officer had also previously seen Crooks on the ground and
    called him in as a suspicious person with a picture before 5:45 p.m.” Officers supposedly looked around but couldn’t immediately find him.

    Just to review: this man was on the radar of the security forces at the
    rally 30 _minutes_ before he fired the first shot. And he fired it on
    top of the very same building where the police were staged.

    Already, 30 minutes before the crime took place, they had enough reason
    to detain this guy and delay the rally. But it gets even worse.

    At one point, in full view of the snipers inside the command post, the gunman, “took out a range finder,” prompting the police sniper to radio his command post. That meant that he alerted the Secret Service to the threat. But still, no one detained the man, and no one pulled Trump off
    the stage — even though there’s only one reason a suspicious person
    would be using a range finder right outside a Trump rally, and everyone
    knows what it is. There is no conceivable innocent reason for a guy to
    be lurking around the site of a campaign rally with a range finder. Or
    if there is an innocent reason, the innocent reason is significantly
    less plausible than the sinister reason. Yet nothing was done. So the
    man disappeared again, then came back a third time — this time carrying
    a backpack. And once again, the snipers called in to their command
    post, explaining that this suspicious man was now “walking towards the
    back of the building.” But nobody stopped him. Nobody took any physical action to prevent what they could evidently see coming.

    Apparently, all of these reports prompted some police officers to call
    for backup and try to scale the roof to stop the shooter. But they
    obviously failed to do so. The gunman climbed on top of the building
    using an air conditioning unit — not a ladder as previously reported — and fired several shots at Trump before he was taken out.

    So what explains why Donald Trump wasn’t taken off the stage at any
    point in this process, until a gunman shot him in the head? Why didn’t Secret Service snipers on the roof behind Trump take out this shooter
    before he was able to open fire? If you look at some of the videos from
    the rally, you’ll notice that initially, the snipers behind Trump
    appear to be relaxed at first. They’re standing up. They’re not in the prone position, looking through their rifle scopes. But then, some
    people in the bleachers see something. They start pointing. And
    eventually the Secret Service snipers go prone, clearly responding to a threat. Here are the two clips:

    https://youtu.be/rm5IFgY_zDA

    This is a much more serious failure than we were told it was. This is
    not a case of the Secret Service somehow failing to notice the shooter.
    They clearly knew he was there, or that some potentially imminent
    threat was very close to the stage. We know that from the video. We
    know it from the reporting. At a minimum, they had reason to think that
    Trump was in imminent danger. But they essentially did nothing in
    response. They let Trump take a bullet to the head before they
    addressed the threat in any way.

    According to the Biden administration, we shouldn’t be outraged or concerned about any of this. Yesterday, the head of the DHS, Alejandro Mayorkas, explained that he has “100% confidence” in the director of
    the Secret Service (whom he oversees). Watch:

    https://youtu.be/SVvpagp1-QI

    This is the same Alejandro Mayorkas who claims the border is completely secure. Now he’s saying he has 100% confidence in the director of the Secret Service, three days after the Secret Service allowed the leading presidential candidate to take a head-shot from a rifle while he
    delivered a speech on stage. The only conceivable way you’d have “100 % confidence” in this agency, and the people who lead it, is if you’re absolutely fine with that outcome. At this point it’s not really a conspiracy theory to say that the Biden administration apparently
    thinks Saturday’s assassination attempt was acceptable. They’re coming right out and saying it to our faces. If it was unacceptable, they
    would fire the people who allowed it to happen. But they aren’t.

    Saying you have 100% confidence in the Secret Service after an incident
    like this is like looking out over the wreckage of a collapsed bridge
    and declaring that you have a 100% confidence in the engineering team
    that designed it. 100% confidence. Not even, like, 90% confidence, or
    73% confidence. Their utter and total and catastrophic failure has not
    lost them even one percentage point of confidence, in your book.

    And it’s not just the DHS secretary saying this. Last night, Joe Biden
    was asked by Lester Holt about the Director of the Secret Service. He
    made it clear he has no problems with the director’s performance. He
    also made it clear he has no idea who the director is, because he said “I’ve heard from him,” even though the director of the Secret Service is a woman. Watch:

    https://youtu.be/uStQ7A2JRsg

    So Biden may not be sure who the Director of the Secret Service is. But he’s sure that he, or she, or whoever, is doing a great job — as evidenced by the fact that her agents nearly got his chief political
    rival killed. And of course, because no one in the Biden administration
    has any shame whatsoever, the Secret Service director has said she has
    no intention of stepping aside. It’s just like the pullout from Afghanistan, which directly resulted in the deaths of several U.S. servicemembers. No one resigned after that debacle. No one was fired.
    No one in the government seemed to care, frankly. And we’re seeing that repeat after the single most significant security failure by the Secret Service since the attempt on Ronald Reagan’s life. Actually it’s worse than that. Based on everything we know now, we can say with a high
    degree of confidence that this is the worst security failure by the
    Secret Service in its history. But no one in any position of authority
    in the agency or outside of it will be held accountable in any way whatsoever.

    This is why our system of government has lost all the trust the public
    may have once had in it. There’s no sense of accountability or responsibility. If anything, these people are embracing their failures
    — almost as if they wanted them to happen. That means we’ll never be
    told the truth about what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday. We’ll never be given the full story of how it happened. Why this guy
    was allowed to do this. And who this guy even is. And even if we are
    someday given all of this information, there will be no reason for any
    of us to believe any of it.


    Complete setup. Here is how it went down:

    The SS paid (or promised to pay) Crooks to commit the assassination with
    a promise of money and freedom after it was all over. This kid was full
    on nerd nation and an easy target, as it were, for the promise of easy
    money. But they never intended to allow him to live to get the payout,
    or talk for that matter if the plan failed (which it did).

    The coincidental string of clusterfucks gave Crooks every opportunity to
    carry out the act without interference (including not even letting the
    locals in on the grand plan) knowing that a shot from the distance he
    was at is the equivalent to a two-foot putt and pretty much a certainty.
    It wasn't negligence to not stop Crooks, it was intentional. There's no
    other way to describe it. Nevertheless, whether he was successful or not
    he was not leaving that roof alive.

    Then he missed and the whole plan went awry. Except for the killing
    Crooks part. Ddead men don't talk. So, the grand plan remains a secret.
    Now the administration is only left to clean up a bit of a mess, which
    is easy to do when you simply say "I have 100% confidence in the ss."
    End of story.

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to RichA on Mon Jul 22 09:43:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump

    RichA wrote:
    Who cares, he's too old and senile to serve anyway.


    Trump needs to learn to lean in to those shots next time.

    Please volunteer for testing as to how far and for how long.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Tue Jul 23 03:02:55 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 07:29:41 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 02:45:28 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 14:52:56 -0400, Governor Swill >><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:27:55 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:00:06 -0400, Governor Swill >>>><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 02:40:43 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:05:07 -0500, Matt Walsh >>>>>><daily@mailer.dailywire.com> wrote:

    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump >>>>>>>in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old >>>>>>>acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential >>>>>>>campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of >>>>>>>Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone >>>>>>>intervening and with no help from anyone.

    [...]

    I do find it odd that he was able to get to the roof, line up his >>>>>>site, then fire. All while the Secret Service and law enforcement were >>>>>>unaware?

    What caught my attention was when several attendees brought the shooter to the attention
    of the local cops - and nobody did anything about it. Apparently they eventually notified
    the SS that there were reports of a shooter, but no action was taken. At least two
    different cops were near the roof, one tried to intervene but backed off - and stayed
    backed off - when the shooter aimed at him.

    "Brave boys in blue," my ass!

    It strikes me as very odd.

    Reichstag fire or failed conspiracy?

    As more information comes out, I think it's a lot of incompetent >>people.

    I suspect an undercurrent of "Who would shoot our leader in middle America?" A thought so
    alien, it can only invoke astonishment; disbelief.

    LEOs are a rich source of Republican votes and the left is not noted for violent
    solutions. The sin might have been incompetence brought on by overconfidence.

    Very plausible. People do tend to think along those lines.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to dumbasastump@invalid.org on Tue Jul 23 03:03:04 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 08:52:31 -0600, Lil dwarf Rudey
    <dumbasastump@invalid.org> wrote:

    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: >talk.politics.guns,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,or.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.atheism

    [...]

    You have an unhealthy obsession with Swill.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to rush@movingpictures.com on Tue Jul 23 03:03:48 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Complete setup. Here is how it went down:

    The SS paid (or promised to pay) Crooks to commit the assassination with
    a promise of money and freedom after it was all over. This kid was full
    on nerd nation and an easy target, as it were, for the promise of easy
    money. But they never intended to allow him to live to get the payout,
    or talk for that matter if the plan failed (which it did).


    What evidence do you have for this? Actual, valid, verifiable
    evidence?

    The coincidental string of clusterfucks gave Crooks every opportunity to >carry out the act without interference (including not even letting the
    locals in on the grand plan) knowing that a shot from the distance he
    was at is the equivalent to a two-foot putt and pretty much a certainty.

    Except that Crooks could aim at the ground and miss dirt.

    It wasn't negligence to not stop Crooks, it was intentional. There's no
    other way to describe it. Nevertheless, whether he was successful or not
    he was not leaving that roof alive.


    It's very probable that it was incompetence on the parts of those
    in charge. As time goes on, and more evidence is made known, we will
    have a better idea.

    Then he missed and the whole plan went awry. Except for the killing
    Crooks part. Ddead men don't talk. So, the grand plan remains a secret.

    He did miss. And you're right, dead men don't talk. We may never
    know Crooks' intended goal. His "grand plan" may remain a mystery
    forever.

    Now the administration is only left to clean up a bit of a mess, which
    is easy to do when you simply say "I have 100% confidence in the ss."
    End of story.

    The Secret Service dropped the ball. Incompetence or intentional
    is something we will have to wait to learn.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Fred Barchetta@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jul 23 09:14:01 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 7/22/2024 7:32 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/2024 10:05 PM, Matt Walsh wrote:
    <snip>
    According to the local outlet Beaver Countian, which broke the story,

    A security operations plan had placed each of the three
    counter-snipers inside of the building looking out of windows
    toward the rally, with none stationed on its roof. Due to a
    lack of manpower, the men did not have spotters assigned to
    them, as would be standard operating procedure.

    So maybe the excuse is that they couldn’t spare anyone to watch the
    roof. They just ran out of people. Obviously we need to know exactly
    who drafted that “security operations plan,” because that person should >>> never be in charge of any security operation ever again.

    Trump is notorious for flying by the seat of his pants. More than one staffer has
    discussed this. It explain, for example, why the Afghanistan withdrawal went so wrong.
    After bypassing the legitimate government by negotiating with terrorists, Trump sprung the
    withdrawal on the Pentagon with no plan, just the order to get out.

    <snip>

    At one point, in full view of the snipers inside the command post, the
    gunman, “took out a range finder,” prompting the police sniper to radio >>> his command post. That meant that he alerted the Secret Service to the
    threat. But still, no one detained the man, and no one pulled Trump off
    the stage — even though there’s only one reason a suspicious person
    would be using a range finder right outside a Trump rally, and everyone
    knows what it is. There is no conceivable innocent reason for a guy to
    be lurking around the site of a campaign rally with a range finder. Or
    if there is an innocent reason, the innocent reason is significantly
    less plausible than the sinister reason.

    One non sinister reason someone would use a rangefinder might be that he didn't have any
    binoculars.

    <snip

    Then he missed and the whole plan went awry. Except for the killing
    Crooks part. Ddead men don't talk. So, the grand plan remains a secret.
    Now the administration is only left to clean up a bit of a mess, which
    is easy to do when you simply say "I have 100% confidence in the ss."
    End of story.

    I'm going to enjoy the reams of "proof" of sinister conspiracies.
    It's so much more
    dramatic than simple incompetence.

    There's "simple incompetence," and there's what actually happened. The
    sheer number of incompetencies is so unbelieveable that one can't help
    but draw other conclusions.

    Swill

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Fred Barchetta on Tue Jul 23 13:26:59 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 2024-07-23, Fred Barchetta <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:
    On 7/22/2024 7:32 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/2024 10:05 PM, Matt Walsh wrote:
    <snip>
    According to the local outlet Beaver Countian, which broke the story,

    A security operations plan had placed each of the three
    counter-snipers inside of the building looking out of windows
    toward the rally, with none stationed on its roof. Due to a
    lack of manpower, the men did not have spotters assigned to
    them, as would be standard operating procedure.

    So maybe the excuse is that they couldn’t spare anyone to watch the
    roof. They just ran out of people. Obviously we need to know exactly
    who drafted that “security operations plan,” because that person should
    never be in charge of any security operation ever again.

    Trump is notorious for flying by the seat of his pants. More than one staffer has
    discussed this. It explain, for example, why the Afghanistan withdrawal went so wrong.
    After bypassing the legitimate government by negotiating with terrorists, Trump sprung the
    withdrawal on the Pentagon with no plan, just the order to get out.

    <snip>

    At one point, in full view of the snipers inside the command post, the >>>> gunman, “took out a range finder,” prompting the police sniper to radio
    his command post. That meant that he alerted the Secret Service to the >>>> threat. But still, no one detained the man, and no one pulled Trump off >>>> the stage — even though there’s only one reason a suspicious person >>>> would be using a range finder right outside a Trump rally, and everyone >>>> knows what it is. There is no conceivable innocent reason for a guy to >>>> be lurking around the site of a campaign rally with a range finder. Or >>>> if there is an innocent reason, the innocent reason is significantly
    less plausible than the sinister reason.

    One non sinister reason someone would use a rangefinder might be that he didn't have any
    binoculars.

    <snip

    Then he missed and the whole plan went awry. Except for the killing
    Crooks part. Ddead men don't talk. So, the grand plan remains a secret.
    Now the administration is only left to clean up a bit of a mess, which
    is easy to do when you simply say "I have 100% confidence in the ss."
    End of story.

    I'm going to enjoy the reams of "proof" of sinister conspiracies.
    It's so much more
    dramatic than simple incompetence.

    There's "simple incompetence," and there's what actually happened. The
    sheer number of incompetencies is so unbelieveable that one can't help
    but draw other conclusions.

    Swill

    I can't imagine so much total incompetence in one place. And
    Kimberly Cheatle's testimony yesterday was a train wreck. Probably yet another DEI hire.
    Biden should fire her immediately.

    --
    pothead
    Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
    Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
    Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.

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  • From Fred Barchetta@21:1/5 to K Wills on Tue Jul 23 09:20:36 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 7/23/2024 4:03 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Complete setup. Here is how it went down:

    The SS paid (or promised to pay) Crooks to commit the assassination with
    a promise of money and freedom after it was all over. This kid was full
    on nerd nation and an easy target, as it were, for the promise of easy
    money. But they never intended to allow him to live to get the payout,
    or talk for that matter if the plan failed (which it did).


    What evidence do you have for this? Actual, valid, verifiable
    evidence?

    Other than a staggering string of incomprehensible and astonishing
    fuck-up's, nothing. That's what makes conspiracy theories so much fun.

    The coincidental string of clusterfucks gave Crooks every opportunity to
    carry out the act without interference (including not even letting the
    locals in on the grand plan) knowing that a shot from the distance he
    was at is the equivalent to a two-foot putt and pretty much a certainty.

    Except that Crooks could aim at the ground and miss dirt.

    It wasn't negligence to not stop Crooks, it was intentional. There's no
    other way to describe it. Nevertheless, whether he was successful or not
    he was not leaving that roof alive.


    It's very probable that it was incompetence on the parts of those
    in charge. As time goes on, and more evidence is made known, we will
    have a better idea.

    Then he missed and the whole plan went awry. Except for the killing
    Crooks part. Ddead men don't talk. So, the grand plan remains a secret.

    He did miss. And you're right, dead men don't talk. We may never
    know Crooks' intended goal. His "grand plan" may remain a mystery
    forever.

    Now the administration is only left to clean up a bit of a mess, which
    is easy to do when you simply say "I have 100% confidence in the ss."
    End of story.

    The Secret Service dropped the ball. Incompetence or intentional
    is something we will have to wait to learn.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to K Wills on Tue Jul 23 09:28:00 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    K Wills wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 08:52:31 -0600, Lil dwarf Rudey <dumbasastump@invalid.org> wrote:

    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups:
    talk.politics.guns,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,or.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.atheism

    [...]

    You have an unhealthy obsession with Swill.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.


    Shall we talk about your garage burglary conviction and time in Ft. Des
    Moines?

    Your call...

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jul 23 09:29:09 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    Governor Swill wrote:
    a bullied nerd

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.nationalism.white,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    Subject: Re: AP Lies by Ommission About Identity of Invaders Charged with
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jul 23 09:28:55 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    Governor Swill wrote:
    He hungers for me.

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.nationalism.white,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From Fred Barchetta@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jul 23 14:18:42 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 7/23/2024 12:02 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 09:14:01 -0400, Fred Barchetta <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    On 7/22/2024 7:32 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/2024 10:05 PM, Matt Walsh wrote:
    <snip>
    According to the local outlet Beaver Countian, which broke the story, >>>>>
    A security operations plan had placed each of the three
    counter-snipers inside of the building looking out of windows
    toward the rally, with none stationed on its roof. Due to a
    lack of manpower, the men did not have spotters assigned to
    them, as would be standard operating procedure.

    So maybe the excuse is that they couldn’t spare anyone to watch the >>>>> roof. They just ran out of people. Obviously we need to know exactly >>>>> who drafted that “security operations plan,” because that person should
    never be in charge of any security operation ever again.

    Trump is notorious for flying by the seat of his pants. More than one staffer has
    discussed this. It explain, for example, why the Afghanistan withdrawal went so wrong.
    After bypassing the legitimate government by negotiating with terrorists, Trump sprung the
    withdrawal on the Pentagon with no plan, just the order to get out.

    <snip>

    At one point, in full view of the snipers inside the command post, the >>>>> gunman, “took out a range finder,” prompting the police sniper to radio
    his command post. That meant that he alerted the Secret Service to the >>>>> threat. But still, no one detained the man, and no one pulled Trump off >>>>> the stage — even though there’s only one reason a suspicious person >>>>> would be using a range finder right outside a Trump rally, and everyone >>>>> knows what it is. There is no conceivable innocent reason for a guy to >>>>> be lurking around the site of a campaign rally with a range finder. Or >>>>> if there is an innocent reason, the innocent reason is significantly >>>>> less plausible than the sinister reason.

    One non sinister reason someone would use a rangefinder might be that he didn't have any
    binoculars.

    <snip

    Then he missed and the whole plan went awry. Except for the killing
    Crooks part. Ddead men don't talk. So, the grand plan remains a secret. >>>> Now the administration is only left to clean up a bit of a mess, which >>>> is easy to do when you simply say "I have 100% confidence in the ss."
    End of story.

    I'm going to enjoy the reams of "proof" of sinister conspiracies.
    It's so much more
    dramatic than simple incompetence.

    There's "simple incompetence," and there's what actually happened. The
    sheer number of incompetencies is so unbelieveable that one can't help
    but draw other conclusions.

    But doesn't such an error chain happen frequently? Nuclear accidents, air crashes, the
    sinking of the Titanic, all events redundantly designed out, yet they do happen because
    some little something went wrong followed by some other designed out little something
    going wrong followed by ...

    At this point in the information, it appears the breakdown was mostly with the local
    police. Not that the SS did their work perfectly but the shooter was reported to the
    police, the police saw the shooter, the shooter was in the space assigned to the local
    cops to control

    And the SS was notified of it. Yet, did nothing.

    but ultimately it was the SS who took him out.

    A communication breakdown happened, sure, but why didn't the cops respond more seriously
    to the early reports especially since they had eyes on?

    Everything you just said bolsters the case for this being something
    other than incompetence and more intentional.

    Swill

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Jul 24 03:03:38 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 04:35:44 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 03:03:48 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta >><rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Complete setup. Here is how it went down:

    The SS paid (or promised to pay) Crooks to commit the assassination with >>>a promise of money and freedom after it was all over. This kid was full >>>on nerd nation and an easy target, as it were, for the promise of easy >>>money. But they never intended to allow him to live to get the payout,
    or talk for that matter if the plan failed (which it did).

    What evidence do you have for this? Actual, valid, verifiable >>evidence?

    A conspiracy is more fun to talk about than a bullied nerd seeking immortality.

    I can't dispute that.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to rush@movingpictures.com on Wed Jul 24 03:03:58 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 09:14:01 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Then he missed and the whole plan went awry. Except for the killing
    Crooks part. Ddead men don't talk. So, the grand plan remains a secret.
    Now the administration is only left to clean up a bit of a mess, which
    is easy to do when you simply say "I have 100% confidence in the ss."
    End of story.

    I'm going to enjoy the reams of "proof" of sinister conspiracies.
    It's so much more
    dramatic than simple incompetence.

    There's "simple incompetence," and there's what actually happened. The
    sheer number of incompetencies is so unbelieveable that one can't help
    but draw other conclusions.

    It is odd that Crooks was able to get in position, line up his
    gun, and fire.
    Fortunately, the guy was a terrible aim.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to rush@movingpictures.com on Wed Jul 24 03:04:13 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 09:20:36 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    On 7/23/2024 4:03 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Complete setup. Here is how it went down:

    The SS paid (or promised to pay) Crooks to commit the assassination with >>> a promise of money and freedom after it was all over. This kid was full
    on nerd nation and an easy target, as it were, for the promise of easy
    money. But they never intended to allow him to live to get the payout,
    or talk for that matter if the plan failed (which it did).

    What evidence do you have for this? Actual, valid, verifiable
    evidence?

    Other than a staggering string of incomprehensible and astonishing
    fuck-up's, nothing. That's what makes conspiracy theories so much fun.


    Well that's disappointing. I was hoping for a really good
    conspiracy rant.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to K Wills on Wed Jul 24 04:16:36 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    K Wills wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 09:20:36 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    On 7/23/2024 4:03 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Complete setup. Here is how it went down:

    The SS paid (or promised to pay) Crooks to commit the assassination with >>>> a promise of money and freedom after it was all over. This kid was full >>>> on nerd nation and an easy target, as it were, for the promise of easy >>>> money. But they never intended to allow him to live to get the payout, >>>> or talk for that matter if the plan failed (which it did).

    What evidence do you have for this? Actual, valid, verifiable
    evidence?

    Other than a staggering string of incomprehensible and astonishing
    fuck-up's, nothing. That's what makes conspiracy theories so much fun.


    Well that's disappointing. I was hoping for a really good
    conspiracy rant.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.


    The injury was self-inflicted. He had a bit explosive glued to his
    earflap. He convinced the local Hitler Youth to fire random shots
    into the crowd, sacrificing himself for the glory of the
    Donfather. Don Felon gets a sexy wound and campaigns on his martyrdom.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Fred Barchetta@21:1/5 to K Wills on Wed Jul 24 08:00:44 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 7/24/2024 4:04 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 09:20:36 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    On 7/23/2024 4:03 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Complete setup. Here is how it went down:

    The SS paid (or promised to pay) Crooks to commit the assassination with >>>> a promise of money and freedom after it was all over. This kid was full >>>> on nerd nation and an easy target, as it were, for the promise of easy >>>> money. But they never intended to allow him to live to get the payout, >>>> or talk for that matter if the plan failed (which it did).

    What evidence do you have for this? Actual, valid, verifiable
    evidence?

    Other than a staggering string of incomprehensible and astonishing
    fuck-up's, nothing. That's what makes conspiracy theories so much fun.


    Well that's disappointing. I was hoping for a really good
    conspiracy rant.

    See my very first post in this thread :)

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jul 24 13:32:38 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    Governor Swill wrote:
    Missing the bull's eye by an inch isn't really 'terrible'.

    Swill

    /Governor Swill/Lou Bricano/J Carlson and a dozen other socks wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From Chips Loral@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Wed Jul 24 13:33:23 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Siri Cruise wrote:
    The injury was self-inflicted.

    Like your meth mouth?

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Thu Jul 25 03:20:18 2024
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 09:33:24 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 03:03:58 -0500, K Wills <k.w90@kw.kw> wrote:

    It is odd that Crooks was able to get in position, line up his
    gun, and fire.
    Fortunately, the guy was a terrible aim.

    Missing the bull's eye by an inch isn't really 'terrible'.

    Point taken.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Thu Jul 25 03:20:07 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 04:16:36 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    K Wills wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 09:20:36 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    On 7/23/2024 4:03 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:36:05 -0400, Fred Barchetta
    <rush@movingpictures.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Complete setup. Here is how it went down:

    The SS paid (or promised to pay) Crooks to commit the assassination with >>>>> a promise of money and freedom after it was all over. This kid was full >>>>> on nerd nation and an easy target, as it were, for the promise of easy >>>>> money. But they never intended to allow him to live to get the payout, >>>>> or talk for that matter if the plan failed (which it did).

    What evidence do you have for this? Actual, valid, verifiable
    evidence?

    Other than a staggering string of incomprehensible and astonishing
    fuck-up's, nothing. That's what makes conspiracy theories so much fun.

    Well that's disappointing. I was hoping for a really good
    conspiracy rant.


    The injury was self-inflicted. He had a bit explosive glued to his
    earflap. He convinced the local Hitler Youth to fire random shots
    into the crowd, sacrificing himself for the glory of the
    Donfather. Don Felon gets a sexy wound and campaigns on his martyrdom.

    You need to fit the Illuminati into it :)

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to K Wills on Thu Jul 25 06:03:02 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    K Wills wrote:
    What evidence do you have for this? Actual, valid, verifiable >>>>> evidence?
    Other than a staggering string of incomprehensible and astonishing
    fuck-up's, nothing. That's what makes conspiracy theories so much fun.
    Well that's disappointing. I was hoping for a really good
    conspiracy rant.

    The injury was self-inflicted. He had a bit explosive glued to his
    earflap. He convinced the local Hitler Youth to fire random shots
    into the crowd, sacrificing himself for the glory of the
    Donfather. Don Felon gets a sexy wound and campaigns on his martyrdom.
    You need to fit the Illuminati into it

    The Canadian Church of the Immaculate Liberal of the Universal
    Discordian Communion that had been founded by the Light Knights of
    the Bavarian Common Conspiracy Villainery.

    The Canadian Church has become concerned if Democrats win in the
    Rich White South, it could entice all the Canadians to Washington
    and Montana leaving Ottawa as empty as a Mensa meeting in
    Kentucky. Under the tactical coordination arm of the Church of the
    Holey Apple, the forces of canadianism hatched a foul plan to get
    the Donfather elected.

    They scoured the archived mail of the DeGrassi High Fan Dance
    Club. They found a gullible American fool of the Young
    Republicans. He agreed to fire shots at random into the crowd.

    The Donfather is desperate: he really believed the letter was from
    Margot Kidder. Donfather will do anything to get her since it
    would prove his superiority to Christopher Reeve. The letter
    included and small explosive and infrared light. The instructions
    were to glue the explosive to the back of his earflap, and to hold
    the light in his hand. When the shooting started he was to flick
    the light to detonate.

    After the 'wounding' he struggled briefly to slip the light into
    his pocket. He doesn't release medical records and wears an
    oversized bandage until any scorch mark heals. Donfather gets a
    sexy wound with no risk, some of his fans who doesn't give a shit
    about are killed, and he gets to blame Secret Service and
    transitively Biden.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Chips Loral@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Thu Jul 25 11:15:01 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Siri Cruise wrote:
    The Canadian Church of the Immaculate Liberal of the Universa

    Meth is a helluva drug, eh lot lizard?

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com on Fri Jul 26 02:52:24 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 06:03:02 -0700, Siri Cruise
    <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    K Wills wrote:
    What evidence do you have for this? Actual, valid, verifiable >>>>>> evidence?
    Other than a staggering string of incomprehensible and astonishing
    fuck-up's, nothing. That's what makes conspiracy theories so much fun. >>>> Well that's disappointing. I was hoping for a really good
    conspiracy rant.

    The injury was self-inflicted. He had a bit explosive glued to his
    earflap. He convinced the local Hitler Youth to fire random shots
    into the crowd, sacrificing himself for the glory of the
    Donfather. Don Felon gets a sexy wound and campaigns on his martyrdom.
    You need to fit the Illuminati into it

    The Canadian Church of the Immaculate Liberal of the Universal
    Discordian Communion that had been founded by the Light Knights of
    the Bavarian Common Conspiracy Villainery.

    [...]

    Good one. I like it.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Fri Jul 26 02:51:40 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 08:46:20 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Well that's disappointing. I was hoping for a really good
    conspiracy rant.


    The injury was self-inflicted. He had a bit explosive glued to his >>>earflap. He convinced the local Hitler Youth to fire random shots
    into the crowd, sacrificing himself for the glory of the
    Donfather. Don Felon gets a sexy wound and campaigns on his martyrdom.

    You need to fit the Illuminati into it :)

    That's who recruited the shooter. ;)

    Of course. Now it all makes sense.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From sql-anti-novelty@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 13 19:43:15 2025
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    I agree

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  • From Phil@21:1/5 to Matt Walsh on Sat Aug 2 21:45:15 2025
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 18/7/24 03:05, Matt Walsh wrote:
    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump
    in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential
    campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of
    Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone
    intervening and with no help from anyone.

    Yes, makes no sense, one year on.
    In the 1980s every year or two there was a TV program on
    the Kennedy assasination in myopic detail
    until the major movie was released. Every angle,
    reconstructions from towers with moving vehicles etc.

    Everyone is scared to look, because he was shot and then
    not shot in a time loop? At the Vatican at the funeral
    of Pope Francis, President Trump was standing for a while
    with his head at 90 degrees, like he was wanting to say
    something.

    You can't clip the ear without the rest? He lost a shoe
    which had laces: high stress and weird things happen.
    Was is a misfired round, a richochet, no-one knows?
    People say it was staged, whatever that means. As someone did
    unforunately die (the off-duty firefighter) investigations
    may still be on-going.



    This 20-year-old is also so politically radical as to attempt an assassination and yet not radical enough to have ever posted any
    political writings or commentary on any social media site ever in his
    life. He also wrote no manifesto and left behind no indication about
    why he did it. Even after authorities gained access to his phone, they
    say they still have no clue about his motivations. All we’re told is
    that, for some reason, he obviously wanted Donald Trump dead. There’s
    just a handful of videos of the shooter circulating, including one in
    which he makes some weird sexual joke, and one in which he appears
    briefly in a Blackrock video featuring his high school classroom. Other
    than that, it’s as if he never existed.

    As far as we can tell, this man’s last and only political act, before attempting to kill the Republican candidate, was to register as a
    Republican. Oh and apparently, there were Trump signs outside of his parent’s home, where he was living. Watch:

    https://youtu.be/1KbC1dHo9_U

    We have no idea why these signs are outside the shooter’s home. We have
    no clarity on this point whatsoever because none of this makes sense
    and no one’s explaining anything. Nevertheless, you must believe the official narrative and ask no questions about it or else you are a
    conspiracy theorist. And one thing we know about assassination attempts
    is that there’s never any conspiring involved.

    As unbelievable and insulting as it is, this is the version of events you’re being told to accept. But with every hour that goes by, it
    somehow makes even less sense than it did before. Every new detail is
    more baffling than the last.

    Last night, for instance CBS News reported that several Beaver County
    police snipers were stationed _inside_ the building the shooter
    eventually climbed on top of. They were supposedly looking for threats
    in the crowd at the rally. There were no officers or snipers on the
    roof, for reasons that remain unexplained, even though that’d be the rational spot to place these snipers. But it’s now an uncontested fact
    that the shooter used the police staging area as a vantage point to
    shoot Donald Trump.

    According to the local outlet Beaver Countian, which broke the story,

    A security operations plan had placed each of the three
    counter-snipers inside of the building looking out of windows
    toward the rally, with none stationed on its roof. Due to a
    lack of manpower, the men did not have spotters assigned to
    them, as would be standard operating procedure.

    So maybe the excuse is that they couldn’t spare anyone to watch the
    roof. They just ran out of people. Obviously we need to know exactly
    who drafted that “security operations plan,” because that person should never be in charge of any security operation ever again.

    Nevertheless, roughly a half hour before the shooting started, these
    snipers positioned inside the building saw the 20-year-old shooter — without his rifle — “looking up at the roof observing the building” before he disappeared, then came back and sat down. This was so
    suspicious that one of the snipers inside the building took a photo of
    the gunman.

    Additionally, according to a separate local news station, “a law enforcement officer had also previously seen Crooks on the ground and
    called him in as a suspicious person with a picture before 5:45 p.m.” Officers supposedly looked around but couldn’t immediately find him.

    Just to review: this man was on the radar of the security forces at the
    rally 30 _minutes_ before he fired the first shot. And he fired it on
    top of the very same building where the police were staged.

    Already, 30 minutes before the crime took place, they had enough reason
    to detain this guy and delay the rally. But it gets even worse.

    At one point, in full view of the snipers inside the command post, the gunman, “took out a range finder,” prompting the police sniper to radio his command post. That meant that he alerted the Secret Service to the threat. But still, no one detained the man, and no one pulled Trump off
    the stage — even though there’s only one reason a suspicious person
    would be using a range finder right outside a Trump rally, and everyone
    knows what it is. There is no conceivable innocent reason for a guy to
    be lurking around the site of a campaign rally with a range finder. Or
    if there is an innocent reason, the innocent reason is significantly
    less plausible than the sinister reason. Yet nothing was done. So the
    man disappeared again, then came back a third time — this time carrying
    a backpack. And once again, the snipers called in to their command
    post, explaining that this suspicious man was now “walking towards the
    back of the building.” But nobody stopped him. Nobody took any physical action to prevent what they could evidently see coming.

    Apparently, all of these reports prompted some police officers to call
    for backup and try to scale the roof to stop the shooter. But they
    obviously failed to do so. The gunman climbed on top of the building
    using an air conditioning unit — not a ladder as previously reported — and fired several shots at Trump before he was taken out.

    So what explains why Donald Trump wasn’t taken off the stage at any
    point in this process, until a gunman shot him in the head? Why didn’t Secret Service snipers on the roof behind Trump take out this shooter
    before he was able to open fire? If you look at some of the videos from
    the rally, you’ll notice that initially, the snipers behind Trump
    appear to be relaxed at first. They’re standing up. They’re not in the prone position, looking through their rifle scopes. But then, some
    people in the bleachers see something. They start pointing. And
    eventually the Secret Service snipers go prone, clearly responding to a threat. Here are the two clips:

    https://youtu.be/rm5IFgY_zDA

    This is a much more serious failure than we were told it was. This is
    not a case of the Secret Service somehow failing to notice the shooter.
    They clearly knew he was there, or that some potentially imminent
    threat was very close to the stage. We know that from the video. We
    know it from the reporting. At a minimum, they had reason to think that
    Trump was in imminent danger. But they essentially did nothing in
    response. They let Trump take a bullet to the head before they
    addressed the threat in any way.

    According to the Biden administration, we shouldn’t be outraged or concerned about any of this. Yesterday, the head of the DHS, Alejandro Mayorkas, explained that he has “100% confidence” in the director of
    the Secret Service (whom he oversees). Watch:

    https://youtu.be/SVvpagp1-QI

    This is the same Alejandro Mayorkas who claims the border is completely secure. Now he’s saying he has 100% confidence in the director of the Secret Service, three days after the Secret Service allowed the leading presidential candidate to take a head-shot from a rifle while he
    delivered a speech on stage. The only conceivable way you’d have “100 % confidence” in this agency, and the people who lead it, is if you’re absolutely fine with that outcome. At this point it’s not really a conspiracy theory to say that the Biden administration apparently
    thinks Saturday’s assassination attempt was acceptable. They’re coming right out and saying it to our faces. If it was unacceptable, they
    would fire the people who allowed it to happen. But they aren’t.

    Saying you have 100% confidence in the Secret Service after an incident
    like this is like looking out over the wreckage of a collapsed bridge
    and declaring that you have a 100% confidence in the engineering team
    that designed it. 100% confidence. Not even, like, 90% confidence, or
    73% confidence. Their utter and total and catastrophic failure has not
    lost them even one percentage point of confidence, in your book.

    And it’s not just the DHS secretary saying this. Last night, Joe Biden
    was asked by Lester Holt about the Director of the Secret Service. He
    made it clear he has no problems with the director’s performance. He
    also made it clear he has no idea who the director is, because he said “I’ve heard from him,” even though the director of the Secret Service is a woman. Watch:

    https://youtu.be/uStQ7A2JRsg

    So Biden may not be sure who the Director of the Secret Service is. But he’s sure that he, or she, or whoever, is doing a great job — as evidenced by the fact that her agents nearly got his chief political
    rival killed. And of course, because no one in the Biden administration
    has any shame whatsoever, the Secret Service director has said she has
    no intention of stepping aside. It’s just like the pullout from Afghanistan, which directly resulted in the deaths of several U.S. servicemembers. No one resigned after that debacle. No one was fired.
    No one in the government seemed to care, frankly. And we’re seeing that repeat after the single most significant security failure by the Secret Service since the attempt on Ronald Reagan’s life. Actually it’s worse than that. Based on everything we know now, we can say with a high
    degree of confidence that this is the worst security failure by the
    Secret Service in its history. But no one in any position of authority
    in the agency or outside of it will be held accountable in any way whatsoever.

    This is why our system of government has lost all the trust the public
    may have once had in it. There’s no sense of accountability or responsibility. If anything, these people are embracing their failures
    — almost as if they wanted them to happen. That means we’ll never be
    told the truth about what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday. We’ll never be given the full story of how it happened. Why this guy
    was allowed to do this. And who this guy even is. And even if we are
    someday given all of this information, there will be no reason for any
    of us to believe any of it.


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  • From Kong@21:1/5 to Phil on Sat Aug 2 23:48:34 2025
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    Phil wrote:

    On 18/7/24 03:05, Matt Walsh wrote:
    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald
    Trump in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random
    20-year-old acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a
    presidential campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in
    full view of Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired
    without anyone intervening and with no help from anyone.

    Yes, makes no sense, one year on.
    In the 1980s every year or two there was a TV program on
    the Kennedy assasination in myopic detail
    until the major movie was released. Every angle,
    reconstructions from towers with moving vehicles etc.

    Everyone is scared to look, because he was shot and then
    not shot in a time loop? At the Vatican at the funeral
    of Pope Francis, President Trump was standing for a while
    with his head at 90 degrees, like he was wanting to say
    something.

    You can't clip the ear without the rest? He lost a shoe
    which had laces: high stress and weird things happen.
    Was is a misfired round, a richochet, no-one knows?
    People say it was staged, whatever that means. As someone did
    unforunately die (the off-duty firefighter) investigations
    may still be on-going.



    This 20-year-old is also so politically radical as to attempt an
    assassination and yet not radical enough to have ever posted any
    political writings or commentary on any social media site ever in
    his life. He also wrote no manifesto and left behind no indication
    about why he did it. Even after authorities gained access to his
    phone, they say they still have no clue about his motivations. All
    we’re told is that, for some reason, he obviously wanted Donald
    Trump dead. There’s just a handful of videos of the shooter
    circulating, including one in which he makes some weird sexual joke,
    and one in which he appears briefly in a Blackrock video featuring
    his high school classroom. Other than that, it’s as if he never
    existed.

    As far as we can tell, this man’s last and only political act,
    before attempting to kill the Republican candidate, was to register
    as a Republican. Oh and apparently, there were Trump signs outside
    of his parent’s home, where he was living. Watch:

    https://youtu.be/1KbC1dHo9_U

    We have no idea why these signs are outside the shooter’s home. We
    have no clarity on this point whatsoever because none of this makes
    sense and no one’s explaining anything. Nevertheless, you must
    believe the official narrative and ask no questions about it or else
    you are a conspiracy theorist. And one thing we know about
    assassination attempts is that there’s never any conspiring
    involved.

    As unbelievable and insulting as it is, this is the version of
    events you’re being told to accept. But with every hour that goes
    by, it somehow makes even less sense than it did before. Every new
    detail is more baffling than the last.

    Last night, for instance CBS News reported that several Beaver
    County police snipers were stationed _inside_ the building the
    shooter eventually climbed on top of. They were supposedly looking
    for threats in the crowd at the rally. There were no officers or
    snipers on the roof, for reasons that remain unexplained, even
    though that’d be the rational spot to place these snipers. But
    it’s now an uncontested fact that the shooter used the police
    staging area as a vantage point to shoot Donald Trump.

    According to the local outlet Beaver Countian, which broke the
    story,

    A security operations plan had placed each of the three
    counter-snipers inside of the building looking out of windows
    toward the rally, with none stationed on its roof. Due to a
    lack of manpower, the men did not have spotters assigned to
    them, as would be standard operating procedure.

    So maybe the excuse is that they couldn’t spare anyone to watch
    the roof. They just ran out of people. Obviously we need to know
    exactly who drafted that “security operations plan,” because
    that person should never be in charge of any security operation ever
    again.

    Nevertheless, roughly a half hour before the shooting started, these
    snipers positioned inside the building saw the 20-year-old shooter
    — without his rifle — “looking up at the roof observing the
    building” before he disappeared, then came back and sat down. This
    was so suspicious that one of the snipers inside the building took a
    photo of the gunman.

    Additionally, according to a separate local news station, “a law
    enforcement officer had also previously seen Crooks on the ground
    and called him in as a suspicious person with a picture before 5:45
    p.m.” Officers supposedly looked around but couldn’t immediately
    find him.

    Just to review: this man was on the radar of the security forces at
    the rally 30 _minutes_ before he fired the first shot. And he fired
    it on top of the very same building where the police were staged.

    Already, 30 minutes before the crime took place, they had enough
    reason to detain this guy and delay the rally. But it gets even
    worse.

    At one point, in full view of the snipers inside the command post,
    the gunman, “took out a range finder,” prompting the police
    sniper to radio his command post. That meant that he alerted the
    Secret Service to the threat. But still, no one detained the man,
    and no one pulled Trump off the stage — even though there’s only
    one reason a suspicious person would be using a range finder right
    outside a Trump rally, and everyone knows what it is. There is no
    conceivable innocent reason for a guy to be lurking around the site
    of a campaign rally with a range finder. Or if there is an innocent
    reason, the innocent reason is significantly less plausible than the
    sinister reason. Yet nothing was done. So the man disappeared again,
    then came back a third time — this time carrying a backpack. And
    once again, the snipers called in to their command post, explaining
    that this suspicious man was now “walking towards the back of the
    building.” But nobody stopped him. Nobody took any physical action
    to prevent what they could evidently see coming.

    Apparently, all of these reports prompted some police officers to
    call for backup and try to scale the roof to stop the shooter. But
    they obviously failed to do so. The gunman climbed on top of the
    building using an air conditioning unit — not a ladder as
    previously reported — and fired several shots at Trump before he
    was taken out.

    So what explains why Donald Trump wasn’t taken off the stage at
    any point in this process, until a gunman shot him in the head? Why
    didn’t Secret Service snipers on the roof behind Trump take out
    this shooter before he was able to open fire? If you look at some of
    the videos from the rally, you’ll notice that initially, the
    snipers behind Trump appear to be relaxed at first. They’re
    standing up. They’re not in the prone position, looking through
    their rifle scopes. But then, some people in the bleachers see
    something. They start pointing. And eventually the Secret Service
    snipers go prone, clearly responding to a threat. Here are the two
    clips:

    https://youtu.be/rm5IFgY_zDA

    This is a much more serious failure than we were told it was. This
    is not a case of the Secret Service somehow failing to notice the
    shooter. They clearly knew he was there, or that some potentially
    imminent threat was very close to the stage. We know that from the
    video. We know it from the reporting. At a minimum, they had reason
    to think that Trump was in imminent danger. But they essentially did
    nothing in response. They let Trump take a bullet to the head before
    they addressed the threat in any way.

    According to the Biden administration, we shouldn’t be outraged or
    concerned about any of this. Yesterday, the head of the DHS,
    Alejandro Mayorkas, explained that he has “100% confidence” in
    the director of the Secret Service (whom he oversees). Watch:

    https://youtu.be/SVvpagp1-QI

    This is the same Alejandro Mayorkas who claims the border is
    completely secure. Now he’s saying he has 100% confidence in the
    director of the Secret Service, three days after the Secret Service
    allowed the leading presidential candidate to take a head-shot from
    a rifle while he delivered a speech on stage. The only conceivable
    way you’d have “100 % confidence” in this agency, and the
    people who lead it, is if you’re absolutely fine with that
    outcome. At this point it’s not really a conspiracy theory to say
    that the Biden administration apparently thinks Saturday’s
    assassination attempt was acceptable. They’re coming right out and
    saying it to our faces. If it was unacceptable, they would fire the
    people who allowed it to happen. But they aren’t.

    Saying you have 100% confidence in the Secret Service after an
    incident like this is like looking out over the wreckage of a
    collapsed bridge and declaring that you have a 100% confidence in
    the engineering team that designed it. 100% confidence. Not even,
    like, 90% confidence, or 73% confidence. Their utter and total and
    catastrophic failure has not lost them even one percentage point of
    confidence, in your book.

    And it’s not just the DHS secretary saying this. Last night, Joe
    Biden was asked by Lester Holt about the Director of the Secret
    Service. He made it clear he has no problems with the director’s
    performance. He also made it clear he has no idea who the director
    is, because he said “I’ve heard from him,” even though the
    director of the Secret Service is a woman. Watch:

    https://youtu.be/uStQ7A2JRsg

    So Biden may not be sure who the Director of the Secret Service is.
    But he’s sure that he, or she, or whoever, is doing a great job
    — as evidenced by the fact that her agents nearly got his chief
    political rival killed. And of course, because no one in the Biden
    administration has any shame whatsoever, the Secret Service director
    has said she has no intention of stepping aside. It’s just like
    the pullout from Afghanistan, which directly resulted in the deaths
    of several U.S. servicemembers. No one resigned after that debacle.
    No one was fired. No one in the government seemed to care, frankly.
    And we’re seeing that repeat after the single most significant
    security failure by the Secret Service since the attempt on Ronald
    Reagan’s life. Actually it’s worse than that. Based on
    everything we know now, we can say with a high degree of confidence
    that this is the worst security failure by the Secret Service in its
    history. But no one in any position of authority in the agency or
    outside of it will be held accountable in any way whatsoever.

    This is why our system of government has lost all the trust the
    public may have once had in it. There’s no sense of accountability
    or responsibility. If anything, these people are embracing their
    failures — almost as if they wanted them to happen. That means
    we’ll never be told the truth about what happened in Butler,
    Pennsylvania on Saturday. We’ll never be given the full story of
    how it happened. Why this guy was allowed to do this. And who this
    guy even is. And even if we are someday given all of this
    information, there will be no reason for any of us to believe any of
    it.




    Do you always reply to 1 year-old posts?

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  • From Kenito Benito@21:1/5 to Phil on Sun Aug 3 02:32:21 2025
    XPost: alt.radio.talk, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 21:45:15 +0100, Phil <philmorenat@proton.me> wrote:

    On 18/7/24 03:05, Matt Walsh wrote:
    Seventy-two hours after an assassin shot and nearly killed Donald Trump
    in Pennsylvania, here’s the official story so far: A random 20-year-old
    acting completely alone walked within 150 yards of a presidential
    campaign rally with a rifle, climbed onto a rooftop in full view of
    Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired without anyone
    intervening and with no help from anyone.

    Yes, makes no sense, one year on.
    In the 1980s every year or two there was a TV program on
    the Kennedy assasination in myopic detail
    until the major movie was released. Every angle,
    reconstructions from towers with moving vehicles etc.

    Everyone is scared to look, because he was shot and then
    not shot in a time loop? At the Vatican at the funeral
    of Pope Francis, President Trump was standing for a while
    with his head at 90 degrees, like he was wanting to say
    something.

    You can't clip the ear without the rest? He lost a shoe
    which had laces: high stress and weird things happen.
    Was is a misfired round, a richochet, no-one knows?
    People say it was staged, whatever that means. As someone did
    unforunately die (the off-duty firefighter) investigations
    may still be on-going.

    [...]

    Why wait over a year to reply? And why include so much of the
    original when you had no comment for the rest?

    --
    Kenito Benito
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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