• Demotards say NO MORE FREE SPEECH FOR YOU!

    From Mittens Romney@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 6 12:37:47 2024
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    https://thelibertydaily.com/lefts-open-declaration-war-free-speech/


    Just listen to what high-profile leftists have been openly saying about
    denying you your right to information on both sides of the political
    equation.

    Former presidential candidate and Obama Secretary of State John Kerry
    has gotten the most attention recently, mainly because of how bluntly he
    railed against our most fundamental freedom. But former Clinton
    Secretary of Labor Robert Reich has been just as repressive—and more detailed. And Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has been her usual
    self as she demands censorship without much specificity.

    Kerry made his comments at a World Economic Forum panel on green energy
    on Sept. 25. A conservative comedian trying to satirize the views of the haughty ruling class could not have come up with better material.

    As Kerry put it, “The dislike of and anger over social media is just
    growing and growing and growing, and it’s part of our problem,
    particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue,” Kerry lamented, apparently referring to abhorrence of freedom by members of his ilk.

    “It’s really hard to govern today!” The problem, he said, was that the internet and social media have liberated people to choose from different sources of information, adding competition. Little over two decades ago,
    the country was held hostage to the views of the journalists working at
    three networks and a handful of national newspapers.

    Kerry pines for those days. “The referees we used to have to determine what’s a fact, and what isn’t a fact, have been eviscerated to a certain degree, and people self-select, where they go for their news, or for
    their information, and you get into a vicious cycle,” said the man who
    came within 19 Electoral College votes of becoming president in 2004.
    “So, it’s really, really hard, much harder, to build consensus today
    than at any time in the 40 to 50 years I’ve been involved in this.”

    He continued, “There is a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities, if people go to only one source, and the source they go to is
    sick and has an agenda and it’s putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block to the ability to hammer it out of existence.”

    Kerry’s solution?

    What we need is to win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully
    winning enough votes that you’re free to be able to implement change. … Democracies are very challenged right now, and have not proven that they
    can move fast enough, or big enough, to deal with the challenges that we
    are facing, and to me, this is part of what this race, this election is
    all about—will we break the fever in the United States?

    Reich also discussed his desire to hammer persnickety sources of
    information out of existence with a global audience. Writing in the
    leading newspaper of the British Left, The Guardian, he engaged in a bit
    of disinformation himself by mischaracterizing the actions of the man
    he’d like hammered out, X owner Elon Musk.

    Musk and former President Donald Trump “have both floated the idea of governing together if Trump wins a second term,” wrote Reich, whereas,
    in fact, as Reich admitted himself, all Musk has done is recommend that
    Trump have in a second term a “government efficiency commission” in
    which Musk “would be happy to help out.” But apparently unaware that he
    was committing the same crime he accused Musk to be guilty of, Reich
    went on with his recommendation for how officials around the world
    should “rein in Musk.”

    The first one was for people to boycott Musk’s electric vehicle, Tesla,
    and his social media company, X. But Reich wants much more. “Regulators around the world should threaten Musk with arrest if he doesn’t stop disseminating lies and hate on X,” he wrote. As for the U.S. government,
    it “should terminate its contracts with him, starting with Musk’s SpaceX,” wrote Reich, who published his screed weeks before the U.S. government had to come to SpaceX, hat in hand, asking it to retrieve two astronauts stranded by NASA.

    Ocasio-Cortez has been far less trenchant and specific. The young representative, who’s been repeatedly dinged by left-leaning PolitiFact
    for spreading falsehoods, also wants to “rein in” media she considers guilty of spreading misinformation.

    “We’re going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment
    so that you can’t just spew disinformation and misinformation,” she
    posted on social media. “It’s one thing to have different opinions, but it’s another thing entirely to just say things that are false, so that
    is something that we’re looking into.”

    Unfortunately, these unhinged comments by American politicians don’t
    come in a vacuum.

    There is a sustained attack on freedom of information from Brazil to our
    ally the United Kingdom to next door in Canada. Of course, that makes it
    all the more important that we speak up for freedom.

    --
    ⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Mittens Romney on Sun Oct 6 23:05:04 2024
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    In article <vduldr$1avoj$3@dont-email.me>,
    Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

    Ocasio-Cortez has been far less trenchant and specific. The young representative, who's been repeatedly dinged by left-leaning PolitiFact
    for spreading falsehoods, also wants to "rein in" media she considers
    guilty of spreading misinformation.

    "We're going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment
    so that you can't just spew disinformation and misinformation," she
    posted on social media. "It's one thing to have different opinions, but
    it's another thing entirely to just say things that are false, so that
    is something that we're looking into."

    Unfortunately, these unhinged comments by American politicians don't
    come in a vacuum.

    There is a sustained attack on freedom of information from Brazil to our
    ally the United Kingdom to next door in Canada. Of course, that makes it
    all the more important that we speak up for freedom.

    Put it in the Republican platform: "We reserve the right to lie
    profusely and shamelessly at will."

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  • From groid watch@21:1/5 to Mittens Romney on Sun Oct 6 21:22:20 2024
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    On 10/6/2024 11:37 AM, Mittens Romney wrote:

    https://thelibertydaily.com/lefts-open-declaration-war-free-speech/


    Just listen to what high-profile leftists have been openly saying about denying you your right to information on both sides of the political equation.

    Former presidential candidate and Obama Secretary of State John Kerry
    has gotten the most attention recently, mainly because of how bluntly he railed against our most fundamental freedom. But former Clinton
    Secretary of Labor Robert Reich has been just as repressive—and more detailed. And Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has been her usual
    self as she demands censorship without much specificity.

    Kerry made his comments at a World Economic Forum panel on green energy
    on Sept. 25. A conservative comedian trying to satirize the views of the haughty ruling class could not have come up with better material.

    As Kerry put it, “The dislike of and anger over social media is just growing and growing and growing, and it’s part of our problem,
    particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue,” Kerry lamented, apparently referring to abhorrence of freedom by members of his ilk.

    “It’s really hard to govern today!” The problem, he said, was that the internet and social media have liberated people to choose from different sources of information, adding competition. Little over two decades ago,
    the country was held hostage to the views of the journalists working at
    three networks and a handful of national newspapers.

    Kerry pines for those days. “The referees we used to have to determine what’s a fact, and what isn’t a fact, have been eviscerated to a certain degree, and people self-select, where they go for their news, or for
    their information, and you get into a vicious cycle,” said the man who
    came within 19 Electoral College votes of becoming president in 2004.
    “So, it’s really, really hard, much harder, to build consensus today
    than at any time in the 40 to 50 years I’ve been involved in this.”

    He continued, “There is a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities, if people go to only one source, and the source they go to is
    sick and has an agenda and it’s putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block to the ability to hammer it out of existence.”

    Kerry’s solution?

    What we need is to win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully winning enough votes that you’re free to be able to implement change. … Democracies are very challenged right now, and have not proven that they
    can move fast enough, or big enough, to deal with the challenges that we
    are facing, and to me, this is part of what this race, this election is
    all about—will we break the fever in the United States?

    Reich also discussed his desire to hammer persnickety sources of
    information out of existence with a global audience. Writing in the
    leading newspaper of the British Left, The Guardian, he engaged in a bit
    of disinformation himself by mischaracterizing the actions of the man
    he’d like hammered out, X owner Elon Musk.

    Musk and former President Donald Trump “have both floated the idea of governing together if Trump wins a second term,” wrote Reich, whereas,
    in fact, as Reich admitted himself, all Musk has done is recommend that
    Trump have in a second term a “government efficiency commission” in
    which Musk “would be happy to help out.” But apparently unaware that he was committing the same crime he accused Musk to be guilty of, Reich
    went on with his recommendation for how officials around the world
    should “rein in Musk.”

    The first one was for people to boycott Musk’s electric vehicle, Tesla,
    and his social media company, X. But Reich wants much more. “Regulators around the world should threaten Musk with arrest if he doesn’t stop disseminating lies and hate on X,” he wrote. As for the U.S. government,
    it “should terminate its contracts with him, starting with Musk’s SpaceX,” wrote Reich, who published his screed weeks before the U.S. government had to come to SpaceX, hat in hand, asking it to retrieve two astronauts stranded by NASA.

    Ocasio-Cortez has been far less trenchant and specific. The young representative, who’s been repeatedly dinged by left-leaning PolitiFact
    for spreading falsehoods, also wants to “rein in” media she considers guilty of spreading misinformation.

    “We’re going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation and misinformation,” she posted on social media. “It’s one thing to have different opinions, but it’s another thing entirely to just say things that are false, so that
    is something that we’re looking into.”

    Unfortunately, these unhinged comments by American politicians don’t
    come in a vacuum.

    There is a sustained attack on freedom of information from Brazil to our
    ally the United Kingdom to next door in Canada. Of course, that makes it
    all the more important that we speak up for freedom.

    Of course THEY will decide what is truthful and not, eh?

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Mittens Romney on Mon Oct 7 07:48:14 2024
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    On 10/6/2024 11:37 AM, Mittens Romney wrote:

    https://thelibertydaily.com/

    Lie site lies not read.

    Fuck off, spammy, you gutless nutless squat-to-piss cocksucker.

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  • From conrad@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Mon Oct 7 12:04:56 2024
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    On 10/7/2024 7:48 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 10/6/2024 11:37 AM, Mittens Romney wrote:

    https://thelibertydaily.com/

    Lie site lies not read.

    Fuck off, spammy, you gutless nutless squat-to-piss cocksucker.

    Try this one.

    As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch,
    accountability is in short supply

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/04/politics/walz-audits-fraud-accountability-invs/index.html

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  • From Hiram Panguitch@21:1/5 to conrad on Mon Oct 7 13:14:58 2024
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    On 10/7/2024 1:04 PM, conrad wrote:
    On 10/7/2024 7:48 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 10/6/2024 11:37 AM, Mittens Romney wrote:

    https://thelibertydaily.com/

    Lie site lies not read.

    Fuck off, spammy, you gutless nutless squat-to-piss cocksucker.

    Try this one.

    As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/04/politics/walz-audits-fraud-accountability-invs/index.html

    +1!

    https://www.lucianne.com/2024/10/06/tim_walz_i_dont_think_people_care_whether_ive_lied_repeatedly_137144.html

    Tim Walz: ‘I Don’t Think People Care
    Whether’ I’ve Lied Repeatedly
    Daily Wire, by Staff

    Original Article

    Posted By: Imright, 10/6/2024 6:20:11 PM

    Minnesota Governor Tim Walz (D) said over the weekend that he does not
    believe that anyone cares about the numerous lies that he has been
    caught telling. Walz made the remarks during a “Fox News Sunday”
    interview with host Shannon Bream when confronted over numerous lies
    he’s told that have been exposed since he became Vice President Kamala Harris’ vice presidential running mate. Walz has claimed that his lies
    were nothing more than him making “misstatements.” “You’ve modified your
    story or explained that you misspoke about things involving your
    military rank, about carrying a weapon in war, your 1995 DUI arrest,

    Reply 1 - Posted by: itsonlyme 10/6/2024 6:24:27 PM (No. 1808708)
    LOL. They are not "misstatements". They are lies intended to fool people,

    Reply 4 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 10/6/2024 6:53:35 PM (No. 1808719)
    Knucklehead is even dumber than he looks.

    Reply 5 - Posted by: anniebc 10/6/2024 8:21:29 PM (No. 1808760)
    Oh we care, you weirdo.
    We're not like you and your kind.

    Reply 6 - Posted by: padiva 10/6/2024 9:33:46 PM (No. 1808777)
    Minnesota! Are you embarrassed yet?

    Reply 7 - Posted by: mifla 10/7/2024 4:24:28 AM (No. 1808843)
    You admit that you lie repeatedly, and you still expect us to vote for you?
    Are you on drugs?

    Reply 8 - Posted by: Old Army Vet 10/7/2024 10:07:58 AM (No. 1808979)
    I've met people like him my entire life. They lie and cheat to make
    themselves look better. The only people that they are fooling are
    themselves. I would never vote for such a person.

    Reply 9 - Posted by: bighambone 10/7/2024 10:12:31 AM (No. 1808982)
    If it is considered “ok” for Walz to outright lie, in keeping with the leftist and progressive idea that everyone should be treated in
    accordance with their diversity, equity, and inclusion “bs”, then it is “ok” for everyone to lie in their business and personal lives as long as they do so in direct or indirect support of the leftist and progressive
    ideas and Democrat political agenda. The election result will determine
    if all that will become the future USA way of life!

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  • From Mittens Romney@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 7 13:36:14 2024
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    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2024/10/06/kamala-surrogate-cnn-claims-harris-committed-values-muslim

    That Kamala Harris. She's sure got a lot of "values."

    We're all familiar with her paradoxical claim that despite having
    flip-flopped on many positions—including her previous adamant desire to
    ban fracking and decriminalize illegal border crossings—her "values
    haven't changed."

    Appearing on Sunday's CNN State of the Union, Harris surrogate Mark
    Kelly, a Dem senator from Arizona, professed Kamala's allegiance to the "values" of two disparate electoral groups.

    Discussing Harris' poor polling among Latino voters in Arizona, Kelly
    told host Dana Bash that "Harrison-Walz are committed to their values."

    Earlier in the show, Bash mentioned that Kelly was speaking from
    Dearborn, Michigan, with its large population of Muslims and
    Arab-Americans. Bash noted the "frustration" of many people there with
    the Biden-Harris' support for Israel, and asked Kelly for his message to
    voters there thinking of sitting out the election or voting Republican.

    In reply, Kelly said that Muslim voters there shouldn't even think of
    voting Republican, and that—you guessed it—Harris "is committed to their values."

    Which raises the question: just which values of those Muslim and
    Arab-American voters in Dearborn, and in the US at large, is Harris
    "committed to?"

    Are they the "values" of Kamala's fellow Democrat, Abdullah H. Hammoud,
    the Mayor of Dearborn? In a New York Times "guest essay," Hammoud
    couldn't even bring himself to say the words, "the creation of the State
    of Israel." Instead, he used the Arabic term, the "nakba," meaning "catastrophe," to describe it.

    Or could they be the "values" of Tareq Baconi, the head of the
    Palestinian Policy Network, who in his New York Times "guest essay"--see
    a pattern here?--said the only realistic solution for the area is "from
    the river to the sea" -- meaning the total destruction of the Jewish
    state of Israel?

    Or what about the "values" of American Muslims at large, a majority of
    whom, according to this study, believe that Hamas' October 7 terror
    attack on Israel was "justified."

    So, just which of those Muslim/Arab-American "values" does Kamala
    support? American voters are dying to know!

    Note: As you'll see in the video, Kelly's tone was very condescending
    to Muslim voters in telling them "they shouldn't be considering [sitting
    out or voting Republican.] They should be voting for Kamala Harris."

    Here's the transcript.

    CNN
    State of the Union
    10/6/24
    9:25 am EDT

    DANA BASH: Senator, you are in Dearborn, Michigan right now. There is a
    large Arab-American population there, very open about its frustration
    with the Biden-Harris administration's support for Israel's retaliatory
    war in Gaza. Tensions are even higher because a U.S. citizen from
    Dearborn was killed as part of an Israeli strike in Lebanon.

    What is your message to Muslim and Arab-American voters there who are
    seriously considering either sitting out this election or voting Republican?

    MARK KELLY: Well, they shouldn't be considering that. They should be
    voting for Kamala Harris. I mean, she is committed to their values. She
    met with them, many in the Muslim and the Arab community here earlier in
    the week to talk about the issues that they care about. And certainly,
    peace in the Middle East is at the top of the list.

    And the American citizen that was killed in Lebanon, you know, that is
    tragic. Kamala Harris also understands that loss of life in any
    conflict, innocent loss of life, is a tragic situation. And I know she's
    the person that's ready to deal with this on day one.
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  • From Dave Wainwright@21:1/5 to Mittens Romney on Mon Oct 7 13:42:07 2024
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    On 10/7/2024 12:36 PM, Mittens Romney wrote:
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2024/10/06/kamala-surrogate-cnn-claims-harris-committed-values-muslim

    That Kamala Harris. She's sure got a lot of "values."

    We're all familiar with her paradoxical claim that despite having flip-flopped on many positions—including her previous adamant desire to
    ban fracking and decriminalize illegal border crossings—her "values
    haven't changed."

    Appearing on Sunday's CNN State of the Union, Harris surrogate Mark
    Kelly, a Dem senator from Arizona, professed Kamala's allegiance to the "values" of two disparate electoral groups.

    Discussing Harris' poor polling among Latino voters in Arizona, Kelly
    told host Dana Bash that "Harrison-Walz are committed to their values."

    Neither have stated their values. Their past actions contradict the
    fleeting references they make in response to media requests.

    Earlier in the show, Bash mentioned that Kelly was speaking from
    Dearborn, Michigan, with its large population of Muslims and
    Arab-Americans. Bash noted the "frustration" of many people there with
    the Biden-Harris' support for Israel, and asked Kelly for his message to voters there thinking of sitting out the election or voting Republican.

    In reply, Kelly said that Muslim voters there shouldn't even think of
    voting Republican, and that—you guessed it—Harris "is committed to their values."

    Which raises the question: just which values of those Muslim and Arab-American voters in Dearborn, and in the US at large, is Harris "committed to?"

    Are they the "values" of Kamala's fellow Democrat, Abdullah H. Hammoud,
    the Mayor of Dearborn? In a New York Times "guest essay," Hammoud
    couldn't even bring himself to say the words, "the creation of the State
    of Israel." Instead, he used the Arabic term, the "nakba," meaning "catastrophe," to describe it.

    Or could they be the "values" of Tareq Baconi, the head of the
    Palestinian Policy Network, who in his New York Times "guest essay"--see
    a pattern here?--said the only realistic solution for the area is "from
    the river to the sea" -- meaning the total destruction of the Jewish
    state of Israel?

    Or what about the "values" of American Muslims at large, a majority of
    whom, according to this study, believe that Hamas' October 7 terror
    attack on Israel was "justified."

    So, just which of those Muslim/Arab-American "values" does Kamala
    support? American voters are dying to know!

    Note:  As you'll see in the video, Kelly's tone was very condescending
    to Muslim voters in telling them "they shouldn't be considering [sitting
    out or voting Republican.] They should be voting for Kamala Harris."

    Here's the transcript.

    CNN
    State of the Union
    10/6/24
    9:25 am EDT

    DANA BASH: Senator, you are in Dearborn, Michigan right now. There is a
    large Arab-American population there, very open about its frustration
    with the Biden-Harris administration's support for Israel's retaliatory
    war in Gaza. Tensions are even higher because a U.S. citizen from
    Dearborn was killed as part of an Israeli strike in Lebanon.

    What is your message to Muslim and Arab-American voters there who are seriously considering either sitting out this election or voting
    Republican?

    MARK KELLY: Well, they shouldn't be considering that. They should be
    voting for Kamala Harris. I mean, she is committed to their values. She
    met with them, many in the Muslim and the Arab community here earlier in
    the week to talk about the issues that they care about. And certainly,
    peace in the Middle East is at the top of the list.

    And the American citizen that was killed in Lebanon, you know, that is tragic. Kamala Harris also understands that loss of life in any
    conflict, innocent loss of life, is a tragic situation. And I know she's
    the person that's ready to deal with this on day one.

    Like she dealt with the Kate Steinle murder.

    An American was killed by an illegal alien in sanctuary city San
    Francisco. They went all out to protect the illegal and basically spit
    in the faces of the Steinle family seeking justice.

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  • From Mittens Romney@21:1/5 to Dave Wainwright on Mon Oct 7 14:52:48 2024
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    Dave Wainwright wrote:
    On 10/7/2024 12:36 PM, Mittens Romney wrote:
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2024/10/06/kamala-surrogate-cnn-claims-harris-committed-values-muslim


    That Kamala Harris. She's sure got a lot of "values."

    We're all familiar with her paradoxical claim that despite having
    flip-flopped on many positions—including her previous adamant desire
    to ban fracking and decriminalize illegal border crossings—her "values
    haven't changed."

    Appearing on Sunday's CNN State of the Union, Harris surrogate Mark
    Kelly, a Dem senator from Arizona, professed Kamala's allegiance to
    the "values" of two disparate electoral groups.

    Discussing Harris' poor polling among Latino voters in Arizona, Kelly
    told host Dana Bash that "Harrison-Walz are committed to their values."

    Neither have stated their values.  Their past actions contradict the fleeting references they make in response to media requests.

    Earlier in the show, Bash mentioned that Kelly was speaking from
    Dearborn, Michigan, with its large population of Muslims and
    Arab-Americans. Bash noted the "frustration" of many people there with
    the Biden-Harris' support for Israel, and asked Kelly for his message
    to voters there thinking of sitting out the election or voting
    Republican.

    In reply, Kelly said that Muslim voters there shouldn't even think of
    voting Republican, and that—you guessed it—Harris "is committed to
    their values."

    Which raises the question: just which values of those Muslim and
    Arab-American voters in Dearborn, and in the US at large, is Harris
    "committed to?"

    Are they the "values" of Kamala's fellow Democrat, Abdullah H.
    Hammoud, the Mayor of Dearborn? In a New York Times "guest essay,"
    Hammoud couldn't even bring himself to say the words, "the creation of
    the State of Israel." Instead, he used the Arabic term, the "nakba,"
    meaning "catastrophe," to describe it.

    Or could they be the "values" of Tareq Baconi, the head of the
    Palestinian Policy Network, who in his New York Times "guest
    essay"--see a pattern here?--said the only realistic solution for the
    area is "from the river to the sea" -- meaning the total destruction
    of the Jewish state of Israel?

    Or what about the "values" of American Muslims at large, a majority of
    whom, according to this study, believe that Hamas' October 7 terror
    attack on Israel was "justified."

    So, just which of those Muslim/Arab-American "values" does Kamala
    support? American voters are dying to know!

    Note:  As you'll see in the video, Kelly's tone was very condescending
    to Muslim voters in telling them "they shouldn't be considering
    [sitting out or voting Republican.] They should be voting for Kamala
    Harris."

    Here's the transcript.

    CNN
    State of the Union
    10/6/24
    9:25 am EDT

    DANA BASH: Senator, you are in Dearborn, Michigan right now. There is
    a large Arab-American population there, very open about its
    frustration with the Biden-Harris administration's support for
    Israel's retaliatory war in Gaza. Tensions are even higher because a
    U.S. citizen from Dearborn was killed as part of an Israeli strike in
    Lebanon.

    What is your message to Muslim and Arab-American voters there who are
    seriously considering either sitting out this election or voting
    Republican?

    MARK KELLY: Well, they shouldn't be considering that. They should be
    voting for Kamala Harris. I mean, she is committed to their values.
    She met with them, many in the Muslim and the Arab community here
    earlier in the week to talk about the issues that they care about. And
    certainly, peace in the Middle East is at the top of the list.

    And the American citizen that was killed in Lebanon, you know, that is
    tragic. Kamala Harris also understands that loss of life in any
    conflict, innocent loss of life, is a tragic situation. And I know
    she's the person that's ready to deal with this on day one.

    Like she dealt with the Kate Steinle murder.

    An American was killed by an illegal alien in sanctuary city San
    Francisco.  They went all out to protect the illegal and basically spit
    in the faces of the Steinle family seeking justice.

    Amen to your sobering, truthful summary.

    This IS "the great replacement" at warp speed!

    --
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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Tue Oct 8 02:39:27 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, alt.california

    On Mon, 07 Oct 2024 04:34:52 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 06 Oct 2024 23:05:04 -0500, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    In article <vduldr$1avoj$3@dont-email.me>,
    Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

    Ocasio-Cortez has been far less trenchant and specific. The young
    representative, who's been repeatedly dinged by left-leaning PolitiFact
    for spreading falsehoods, also wants to "rein in" media she considers
    guilty of spreading misinformation.

    "We're going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment
    so that you can't just spew disinformation and misinformation," she
    posted on social media. "It's one thing to have different opinions, but
    it's another thing entirely to just say things that are false, so that
    is something that we're looking into."

    Unfortunately, these unhinged comments by American politicians don't
    come in a vacuum.

    There is a sustained attack on freedom of information from Brazil to our >>> ally the United Kingdom to next door in Canada. Of course, that makes it >>> all the more important that we speak up for freedom.

    Put it in the Republican platform: "We reserve the right to lie
    profusely and shamelessly at will."

    I thought it already was.

    I doubt Republicans have exclusive rights to lying.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Oct 8 11:10:41 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, alt.california

    Governor Swill wrote:
    Oh, everybody has the RIGHT,

    No you don't:


    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
    socks wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.nationalism.white,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    Subject: Re: AP Lies by Ommission About Identity of Invaders Charged with
    Rape, Murder of 12-Year-Old
    Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 12:35:52 -0700
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Tue Oct 8 11:12:48 2024
    XPost: rec.food.cooking, alt.home.repair, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.california

    Lou Bricano wrote:
    you gutless nutless


    You in a heap a trouble, boyo:




    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
    socks wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    highwinds-media.com!fx10.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.elections
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    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.nationalism.white,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    Subject: Re: AP Lies by Ommission About Identity of Invaders Charged with
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Oct 8 11:17:55 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, alt.california

    Governor Swill wrote:
    I thought it already was.

    STFU death threat man:




    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
    socks wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.netnews.com!netnews.com!s1-4.netnews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.
    highwinds-media.com!fx10.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.elections
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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From Mary Page@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 8 18:15:08 2024
    XPost: soc.support.transgendered, alt.atheism.satire, alt.home.repair
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 10/6/2024 11:37 AM, Mittens Romney wrote:

    https://thelibertydaily.com/lefts-open-declaration-war-free-speech/


    Just listen to what high-profile leftists have been openly saying about
    denying you your right to information on both sides of the political
    equation.

    Former presidential candidate and Obama Secretary of State John Kerry
    has gotten the most attention recently, mainly because of how bluntly
    he railed against our most fundamental freedom. But former Clinton
    Secretary of Labor Robert Reich has been just as repressive—and more
    detailed. And Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has been her usual
    self as she demands censorship without much specificity.

    Kerry made his comments at a World Economic Forum panel on green energy
    on Sept. 25. A conservative comedian trying to satirize the views of
    the haughty ruling class could not have come up with better material.

    As Kerry put it, “The dislike of and anger over social media is just
    growing and growing and growing, and it’s part of our problem,
    particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any
    issue,” Kerry lamented, apparently referring to abhorrence of freedom
    by members of his ilk.

    “It’s really hard to govern today!” The problem, he said, was
    that the internet and social media have liberated people to choose from
    different sources of information, adding competition. Little over two
    decades ago, the country was held hostage to the views of the
    journalists working at three networks and a handful of national
    newspapers.

    Kerry pines for those days. “The referees we used to have to
    determine what’s a fact, and what isn’t a fact, have been
    eviscerated to a certain degree, and people self-select, where they go
    for their news, or for their information, and you get into a vicious
    cycle,” said the man who came within 19 Electoral College votes of
    becoming president in 2004. “So, it’s really, really hard, much
    harder, to build consensus today than at any time in the 40 to 50 years
    I’ve been involved in this.”

    He continued, “There is a lot of discussion now about how you curb
    those entities, if people go to only one source, and the source they go
    to is sick and has an agenda and it’s putting out disinformation, our
    First Amendment stands as a major block to the ability to hammer it out
    of existence.”

    Kerry’s solution?

    What we need is to win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully
    winning enough votes that you’re free to be able to implement change.
    … Democracies are very challenged right now, and have not proven that
    they can move fast enough, or big enough, to deal with the challenges
    that we are facing, and to me, this is part of what this race, this
    election is all about—will we break the fever in the United States?

    Reich also discussed his desire to hammer persnickety sources of
    information out of existence with a global audience. Writing in the
    leading newspaper of the British Left, The Guardian, he engaged in a
    bit of disinformation himself by mischaracterizing the actions of the
    man he’d like hammered out, X owner Elon Musk.

    Musk and former President Donald Trump “have both floated the idea of
    governing together if Trump wins a second term,” wrote Reich,
    whereas, in fact, as Reich admitted himself, all Musk has done is
    recommend that Trump have in a second term a “government efficiency
    commission” in which Musk “would be happy to help out.” But
    apparently unaware that he was committing the same crime he accused
    Musk to be guilty of, Reich went on with his recommendation for how
    officials around the world should “rein in Musk.”

    The first one was for people to boycott Musk’s electric vehicle,
    Tesla, and his social media company, X. But Reich wants much more.
    “Regulators around the world should threaten Musk with arrest if he
    doesn’t stop disseminating lies and hate on X,” he wrote. As for
    the U.S. government, it “should terminate its contracts with him,
    starting with Musk’s SpaceX,” wrote Reich, who published his screed
    weeks before the U.S. government had to come to SpaceX, hat in hand,
    asking it to retrieve two astronauts stranded by NASA.

    Ocasio-Cortez has been far less trenchant and specific. The young
    representative, who’s been repeatedly dinged by left-leaning
    PolitiFact for spreading falsehoods, also wants to “rein in” media
    she considers guilty of spreading misinformation.

    “We’re going to have to figure out how we rein in our media
    environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation and
    misinformation,” she posted on social media. “It’s one thing to
    have different opinions, but it’s another thing entirely to just say
    things that are false, so that is something that we’re looking
    into.”

    Unfortunately, these unhinged comments by American politicians don’t
    come in a vacuum.

    There is a sustained attack on freedom of information from Brazil to
    our ally the United Kingdom to next door in Canada. Of course, that
    makes it all the more important that we speak up for freedom.

    Of course THEY will decide what is truthful and not, eh?



    When you think of it, most rightists are like negroids. Trump lovers are
    the worst excuse for white people I've ever seen. Trump will face a lot
    of abuse from blacks when he goes to prison.

    It's a cult like like the Branch Davidians and good Americans hope the
    members will have the same ending, burning to death.

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  • From Ace@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 8 18:17:24 2024
    XPost: soc.support.transgendered, alt.atheism.satire, alt.home.repair
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz Ts watch, >accountability is in short supply

    We already knew that Trump would win based on his honesty and integrity. Everybody's going to vote for Trump now because he's the only choice who
    won't have putin killed.

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  • From Norman Beal@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 8 18:29:04 2024
    XPost: soc.support.transgendered, alt.atheism.satire, alt.home.repair
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Of course THEY will decide what is truthful and not, eh?


    If you believe everything Trump says you won't have this problem.

    Just sayin' ...

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Dave Wainwright on Tue Oct 8 13:21:24 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.politics.immigration, alt.california.illegals

    On 10/7/2024 2:42 PM, Dave Wainwright wrote:
    On 10/7/2024 12:36 PM, Mittens Romney wrote:
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2024/10/06/
    kamala-surrogate-cnn-claims-harris-committed-values-muslim

    That Kamala Harris. She's sure got a lot of "values."

    We're all familiar with her paradoxical claim that despite having
    flip-flopped on many positions—including her previous adamant desire
    to ban fracking and decriminalize illegal border crossings—her "values
    haven't changed."

    Appearing on Sunday's CNN State of the Union, Harris surrogate Mark
    Kelly, a Dem senator from Arizona, professed Kamala's allegiance to
    the "values" of two disparate electoral groups.

    Discussing Harris' poor polling among Latino voters in Arizona, Kelly
    told host Dana Bash that "Harrison-Walz are committed to their values."

    Neither have stated their values.  Their past actions contradict the fleeting references they make in response to media requests.

    Earlier in the show, Bash mentioned that Kelly was speaking from
    Dearborn, Michigan, with its large population of Muslims and Arab-
    Americans. Bash noted the "frustration" of many people there with the
    Biden-Harris' support for Israel, and asked Kelly for his message to
    voters there thinking of sitting out the election or voting Republican.

    In reply, Kelly said that Muslim voters there shouldn't even think of
    voting Republican, and that—you guessed it—Harris "is committed to
    their values."

    Which raises the question: just which values of those Muslim and Arab-
    American voters in Dearborn, and in the US at large, is Harris
    "committed to?"

    Are they the "values" of Kamala's fellow Democrat, Abdullah H.
    Hammoud, the Mayor of Dearborn? In a New York Times "guest essay,"
    Hammoud couldn't even bring himself to say the words, "the creation of
    the State of Israel." Instead, he used the Arabic term, the "nakba,"
    meaning "catastrophe," to describe it.

    Or could they be the "values" of Tareq Baconi, the head of the
    Palestinian Policy Network, who in his New York Times "guest essay"--
    see a pattern here?--said the only realistic solution for the area is
    "from the river to the sea" -- meaning the total destruction of the
    Jewish state of Israel?

    Or what about the "values" of American Muslims at large, a majority of
    whom, according to this study, believe that Hamas' October 7 terror
    attack on Israel was "justified."

    So, just which of those Muslim/Arab-American "values" does Kamala
    support? American voters are dying to know!

    Note:  As you'll see in the video, Kelly's tone was very condescending
    to Muslim voters in telling them "they shouldn't be considering
    [sitting out or voting Republican.] They should be voting for Kamala
    Harris."

    Here's the transcript.

    CNN
    State of the Union
    10/6/24
    9:25 am EDT

    DANA BASH: Senator, you are in Dearborn, Michigan right now. There is
    a large Arab-American population there, very open about its
    frustration with the Biden-Harris administration's support for
    Israel's retaliatory war in Gaza. Tensions are even higher because a
    U.S. citizen from Dearborn was killed as part of an Israeli strike in
    Lebanon.

    What is your message to Muslim and Arab-American voters there who are
    seriously considering either sitting out this election or voting
    Republican?

    MARK KELLY: Well, they shouldn't be considering that. They should be
    voting for Kamala Harris. I mean, she is committed to their values.
    She met with them, many in the Muslim and the Arab community here
    earlier in the week to talk about the issues that they care about. And
    certainly, peace in the Middle East is at the top of the list.

    And the American citizen that was killed in Lebanon, you know, that is
    tragic. Kamala Harris also understands that loss of life in any
    conflict, innocent loss of life, is a tragic situation. And I know
    she's the person that's ready to deal with this on day one.

    Like she dealt with the Kate Steinle murder.

    An American was killed by an illegal alien in sanctuary city San
    Francisco.  They went all out to protect the illegal and basically spit
    in the faces of the Steinle family seeking justice.

    Bingo! Your point is brilliant.
    --
    You voted for late term abortion. You got demographic replacement and
    World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Mittens Romney@21:1/5 to K Wills on Thu Oct 10 14:05:26 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, alt.california

    K Wills wrote:
    I doubt Republicans have exclusive rights to lying.

    When your seamy Iowa past is replayed here you always project it upon
    the respondent.

    It never works, but what else can you do?

    Admit to corrupting a minor and doing time in a halfway house?

    No, for some reason you can't come clean on that, even though the court
    record is unambiguous on your conviction:


    https://casetext.com/case/state-v-wills-26

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

    I. Background Facts and Proceedings.

    Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called
    the local police to report that a car
    alarm sounded in the resident's
    neighborhood. The city dispatched a police
    officer to the location. Observing nothing
    unusual, the officer left the area, only
    to be stopped a couple of blocks later
    by a person who informed the officer he
    had witnessed someone running from the
    area of the car alarm. As the officer
    started driving back to the area of the
    car alarm, he noticed a person walking
    on the sidewalk. The officer asked the
    person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody
    running from the area. The minor answered
    that he had not. While the officer and
    another officer were speaking to the minor,
    another resident of the neighborhood
    arrived in her car and informed the
    officers that she had observed two people,
    one of whom was heavy set with a blinking
    light on his back pocket, walking in the
    area of her neighbor's residence. She
    observed the heavier-set individual, later
    identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's
    attached garage through an unlocked service
    door. She further observed a smaller
    individual standing by a van parked in
    the neighbor's driveway.

    The officers eventually let the minor leave
    even though they found a large amount of
    coins, a flashlight, and an electronic
    pocket organizer in his pockets. After
    releasing the minor, the police officers
    drove to the residence where the neighbor
    observed the two suspicious people and
    woke the owner. The owner, his wife,
    and two daughters were in the residence
    sleeping at the time. After a search
    of his vehicles, the owner discovered
    change and an electronic pocket organizer
    were missing from the vehicles. The
    owner's daughter reported a diamond ring
    and some change were missing from her
    vehicle. The officers then contacted
    the minor's parents, who informed the
    officers the minor was with Wills. After
    the officers questioned the minor again,
    he admitted his involvement in the theft
    and implicated Wills in the burglary.
    Although Wills denied involvement in the
    burglary, the officers arrested him.

    The State filed a trial information
    charging Wills with second-degree
    burglary. The State later amended the
    information to include two additional
    charges of burglary in the third degree
    and using a juvenile to commit an
    indictable offense.

    The jury returned a verdict finding Wills
    guilty of the crimes of burglary in the
    second degree, burglary in the third
    degree, and using a juvenile to commit
    an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
    conviction for second-degree burglary
    claiming ineffective assistance of
    counsel.

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    ⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

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