• Re: MAKE THE STATE AND FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGES A PERCENTAGE OF THE COUNTY

    From Vincent@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Mon Oct 10 22:11:33 2022
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    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 10/9/2022 5:35 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    MAKE THE STATE AND FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGES A PERCENTAGE OF THE COUNTY'S
    PER CAPITA GDP.

    I WOULD RECOMMEND 65% BEFORE TAXES, 50% AFTER TAXES.

    YOU COULD USE ANOTHER PERCENTAGE.

    BUT RAISE THE STATE AND FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGES TO A PERCENTAGE OF COUNTY
    PER CAPITA GDP.

    OTHER MINIMUM WAGES ARE THE CITY MINIMUM WAGE, AND THE COUNTY MINIMUM WAGE.

    BUT IN NEW YORK CITY, THE CITY IS BIGGER THAN THE COUNTIES, AND INCLUDES
    FIVE COUNTIES/BOROUGHS.

    You want more money for your labor asshole. Start a business.Get off
    your whiny ass and get to work making it profitable. Produce something
    usable, marketable and good for the workers and the economy. Take up the
    slack of products from China. Lots of items galore! Small and large
    business loans available at cheap rates for anyone willing to take the
    risk a sweat at an honest job. Knock off the yelling!! Only Idiots have
    to yell to be heard and eventually ignored by sane folks.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?*=c3=96rd=c3=b6g*_the_rea@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 11 16:20:58 2022
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    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !

    --
    Ördög
    "A reminder for your mortification"

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  • From Dhu on Gate@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 12 00:52:52 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, can.politics, aus.politics

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    wrote:

    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done

    Wrong spin. We should guarantee everyone a job that pays enough to live on.

    Dhu



    --
    Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
    C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
    Duncan Patton the Campbell

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  • From Mattb@21:1/5 to devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu on Fri Oct 14 10:16:41 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Mattb on Sat Oct 15 08:41:24 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From Petzl@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 15 08:16:53 2022
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    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil ><devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human" >>compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!
    --
    Petzl
    We know the Dumb3 are lying,
    they know they are lying,
    they know we know they are lying,
    we know they know we know they are lying,
    but they are still lying.
    "Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn"

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  • From Mattb@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Fri Oct 14 22:50:31 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Mattb on Sat Oct 15 16:51:55 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:50:31 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make
    you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about.

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From Mattb@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Fri Oct 14 22:55:14 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:51:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:50:31 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make
    you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair >>>> wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about.

    Really? Then tell the group.....here.....

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Mattb on Sat Oct 15 18:56:50 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:55:14 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:51:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:50:31 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work >>>>>> done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make >>>>>> you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>>> does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with
    fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about.

    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always.

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From Mattb@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Sat Oct 15 09:52:27 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:55:14 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:51:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:50:31 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work >>>>>>> done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make >>>>>>> you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human" >>>>>>> compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>>>> does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with
    fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about.

    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always.

    No you did not. You don't know.

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Mattb on Sat Oct 15 12:52:09 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were also
    shared. Profit sharing is usually a benefit of stockholders. People that actually have skin in the game. Part of my Bonuses were shares of stock
    to insure that I had skin in the game. I certainly had incentive to
    better the company in order to better my amount of skin in the game
    returns.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    bnVsbA==

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  • From Vincent@21:1/5 to Petzl on Sat Oct 15 12:37:12 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.

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  • From Vincent@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Sat Oct 15 12:44:06 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 10/14/2022 4:41 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with fair
    wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    How about a disgruntled worker, going out and starting his/her /its own business and actually using human ingenuity to produce useful, new and profitable products. The person that invented the can opener produced
    millions of jobs around the world. The person that invented the Beer can
    opener produced a lot of hammered disgruntled..but happy after work
    hours. The person that invented Crack pipes brought out the best in
    folks like Ordog. ;-)


    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Mattb on Sat Oct 15 12:35:49 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/14/2022 12:16 PM, Mattb wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Ordog is busy looking for an un-pissed on fire hydrant.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Vincent on Sun Oct 16 08:14:21 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 04:44:06 +1100, Vincent <Vine@letuci.org> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 4:41 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make
    you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    How about a disgruntled worker, going out and starting his/her /its own business and actually using human ingenuity to produce useful, new and profitable products.

    Not just disgruntled, plenty who have done that have
    had enough of a clue to realise that it makes more sense
    to profit from the new stuff themselves rather than let
    their previous employer do that.

    Lots of that happened in the USA, Hewlett Packard
    even encouraged its employees to leave and do that.

    The person that invented the can opener produced millions of jobs around
    the world. The person that invented the Beer can opener produced a lot
    of hammered disgruntled..but happy after work hours. The person that
    invented Crack pipes brought out the best in folks like Ordog. ;-)

    True.

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Sun Oct 16 08:16:06 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 04:35:49 +1100, PaxPerPoten <PPP@yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 12:16 PM, Mattb wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Ordog is busy looking for an un-pissed on fire hydrant.

    We don't have fire hydrants here.

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to Vincent on Sun Oct 16 09:37:45 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 16/10/2022 4:37 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with fair
    wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.


    Yes, petzl has earned his nick which is 'the village idiot of aus.pol'.

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to Vincent on Sun Oct 16 09:40:09 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 16/10/2022 4:44 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:41 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    Its posts certainly looks like that.

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with fair
    wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    How about a disgruntled worker, going out and starting his/her /its own business and actually using human ingenuity to produce useful, new and profitable products. The person that invented the can opener produced millions of jobs around the world. The person that invented the Beer can opener produced a lot of hammered disgruntled..but happy after work
    hours. The person that invented Crack pipes brought out the best in
    folks like Ordog. ;-)

    Do you bother to actually read or think about the shit you write before
    hitting the 'send' button?

    Ordog likes inflation?


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  • From Petzl@21:1/5 to Vincent on Sun Oct 16 10:36:23 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:37:12 -0500, Vincent <Vine@Letuci.org> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.

    If you like watching a blathering Joe Biden pooping his pants.
    Ordog is a blathering commie even worse than biden
    --
    Petzl
    **On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight hundred and eighty-three.
    Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
    He died**

    They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
    Say all of today’s Communists?

    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
    people's money.

    All governments lie about some things, but Putin's totalitarian
    governments lie about everything.

    There is no difference between communism and socialism,
    except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
    communism proposes to enslave men by force,
    socialism - by vote.
    It is merely the difference between murder and suicide

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  • From Daniel65@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Sun Oct 16 19:53:14 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup
    Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours
    who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for
    nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be
    over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more
    "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !

    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes
    up so does the cost of that product or service. Though I do
    agree with fair wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits
    go to the workers so the better the company does the better the
    workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were
    also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable?? So the entire country carries the loss, not just the shareholders.

    Profit sharing is usually a benefit of stockholders. People that
    actually have skin in the game. Part of my Bonuses were shares of
    stock to insure that I had skin in the game. I certainly had
    incentive to better the company in order to better my amount of skin
    in the game returns.

    Ordog likes inflation?
    --
    Daniel

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  • From Mattb@21:1/5 to Vincent on Sun Oct 16 09:31:48 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:37:12 -0500, Vincent <Vine@Letuci.org> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.

    Ordog and Fran are both good at it.

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  • From Mattb@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Sun Oct 16 09:37:02 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:52:09 -0500, PaxPerPoten <PPP@Yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>>>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>> does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair >>>> wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were also >shared. Profit sharing is usually a benefit of stockholders. People that >actually have skin in the game. Part of my Bonuses were shares of stock
    to insure that I had skin in the game. I certainly had incentive to
    better the company in order to better my amount of skin in the game
    returns.

    I know of businesses that use profit sharing or a bonus system it
    seems to work well. Those opposed to it are normally the lazy.

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 17 05:14:09 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:53:14 +1100, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup
    Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours
    who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for
    nothing worthless capitalist trash.
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be
    over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.
    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more
    "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.
    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.
    P L O N K !
    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes
    up so does the cost of that product or service. Though I do
    agree with fair wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits
    go to the workers so the better the company does the better the
    workers do.
    No thanks, thats socialism.
    No, I do not believe it is.
    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were
    also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable??

    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.

    So the entire country carries the loss, not just the shareholders.

    Profit sharing is usually a benefit of stockholders. People that
    actually have skin in the game. Part of my Bonuses were shares of
    stock to insure that I had skin in the game. I certainly had
    incentive to better the company in order to better my amount of skin
    in the game returns.

    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 17 01:03:47 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/16/2022 3:53 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup
    Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours
    who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for
    nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be
    over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more
    "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !

    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes
    up so does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do
    agree with fair wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits
    go to the workers so the better the company does the better the
    workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were
    also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable?? So the entire country carries the loss, not just the shareholders.

    That is also Socialism. Definitely not fair for the taxpayers to fund
    the mistakes of Business establishments. If a worker wishes to
    participate in the profits, then that worker should also participate in
    the losses. Would you also demand that the worker be involved with
    decisions regarding running the business and business risk taking in
    volatile markets? Should the worker also benefit from the sale of the
    business? Where would this insanity stop? Bankruptcy etc??


    Profit sharing is usually a benefit of stockholders. People that
    actually have skin in the game. Part of my Bonuses were shares of
    stock to insure that I had skin in the game. I certainly had
    incentive to better the company in order to better my amount of skin
    in the game returns.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    bnVsbA==

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Mon Oct 17 01:24:00 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/15/2022 4:14 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 04:44:06 +1100, Vincent <Vine@letuci.org> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 4:41 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make
    you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>> does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with fair >>>> wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

     No thanks, thats socialism.

    How about a disgruntled worker, going out and starting his/her /its
    own business and actually using human ingenuity to produce useful, new
    and profitable products.

    Not just disgruntled, plenty who have done that have
    had enough of a clue to realise that it makes more sense
    to profit from the new stuff themselves rather than let
    their previous employer do that.

    Lots of that happened in the USA, Hewlett Packard
    even encouraged its employees to leave and do that.

    The Dodge Brothers quit Henry Ford and some how or the other produced a
    viable business called Chrysler Corp.
    n

    The person that invented the can opener produced millions of jobs
    around the world. The person that invented the Beer can opener
    produced a lot of hammered disgruntled..but happy after work hours.
    The person that invented Crack pipes brought out the best in folks
    like Ordog. ;-)

    True.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    bnVsbA==

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Mattb on Mon Oct 17 01:19:30 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/16/2022 11:37 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:52:09 -0500, PaxPerPoten <PPP@Yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>>>>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>>> does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair >>>>> wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were also
    shared. Profit sharing is usually a benefit of stockholders. People that
    actually have skin in the game. Part of my Bonuses were shares of stock
    to insure that I had skin in the game. I certainly had incentive to
    better the company in order to better my amount of skin in the game
    returns.

    I know of businesses that use profit sharing or a bonus system it
    seems to work well. Those opposed to it are normally the lazy.

    In the 1950's 60's & 70's profit sharing was utilized some some extant
    and did well until the Unions demanded a hand in running the business.
    The Stock holders bolted on that one! Apparently the Unions only wanted
    to collect and not to fund the future operations of a business like the
    Stock Market was designed to do. The commodities markets would be a good example to study before jumping off the cliff. But all said and done,
    the Bonus system does well in most cases. At one time Companies gave
    fruit baskets, wine baskets, a Hard cash at Christmas time. I am aware
    of a Packing plant that paid for family medical emergencies. That was
    before Medical insurance was law required. If a worker wants to make
    some real money, get the Hell out of a Union, Start your own business
    and work your ass off long days and short nights for a few years. The competition will be fierce and the Feds will make life a living Hell
    with regulations.


    Ordog likes inflation?

    bnVsbA==

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  • From Vincent@21:1/5 to Fran on Mon Oct 17 01:26:01 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 10/15/2022 5:40 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 16/10/2022 4:44 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:41 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    Its posts certainly looks like that.

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make
    you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>> does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with fair >>>> wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    How about a disgruntled worker, going out and starting his/her /its
    own business and actually using human ingenuity to produce useful, new
    and profitable products. The person that invented the can opener
    produced millions of jobs around the world. The person that invented
    the Beer can opener produced a lot of hammered disgruntled..but happy
    after work hours. The person that invented Crack pipes brought out the
    best in folks like Ordog. ;-)

    Do you bother to actually read or think about the shit you write before hitting the 'send' button?

    Do you spit or swallow?


    Ordog likes inflation?



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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Mon Oct 17 01:28:08 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/15/2022 4:16 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 04:35:49 +1100, PaxPerPoten <PPP@yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 12:16 PM, Mattb wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


       Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>> does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with fair
    wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Ordog is busy looking for an un-pissed on fire hydrant.

    We don't have fire hydrants here.

    No wonder that Ordog is so frustrated. Maybe he can get his paws on a
    Colostomy bag?

    bnVsbA==

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  • From Vincent@21:1/5 to Fran on Mon Oct 17 01:33:01 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 10/15/2022 5:37 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 16/10/2022 4:37 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work
    done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make
    you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>> does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with fair >>>> wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.


    Yes, Ordog has earned his nick which is 'the village idiot of aus.pol'.

    Seeing as that was in response to my post, I corrected if for you.
    Australia has such fine schools that I am amazed that your reading
    capability is so limited.


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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Mattb on Mon Oct 17 01:36:07 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/16/2022 11:31 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:37:12 -0500, Vincent <Vine@Letuci.org> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>>>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>> does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair >>>> wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.

    Ordog and Fran are both good at it.

    Aren't they one and the same? Perhaps with a split self aggrandizing personality.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Mon Oct 17 01:13:32 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about.

    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always.

    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive
    link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they
    will not exist.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    activities director.

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Oct 17 19:45:02 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:13:32 +1100, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are
    about.

    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as
    always.

    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive
    link for the post.

    Too much farting around to find it in this quite deep thread.

    Even you should be able to find it using the word socialism.

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Mon Oct 17 19:42:21 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 17:36:07 +1100, PaxPerPoten <PPP@yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/16/2022 11:31 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:37:12 -0500, Vincent <Vine@Letuci.org> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work >>>>>> done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make >>>>>> you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up
    so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with
    fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.

    Ordog and Fran are both good at it.

    Aren't they one and the same?

    Nope, not even the same sex.

    The dog is an immigrant communist from Hungary.

    The Flan is a rather stupid Ozzie woman.

    Perhaps with a split self aggrandizing personality.

    Fraid not.

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  • From Daniel65@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Mon Oct 17 19:44:57 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    PaxPerPoten wrote on 17/10/22 5:03 pm:
    On 10/16/2022 3:53 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup
    Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours
    who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for
    nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be
    over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more
    "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !

    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes
    up so does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do
    agree with fair wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits
    go to the workers so the better the company does the better the
    workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were
    also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable?? So the entire country carries the loss, not just the
    shareholders.

    That is also Socialism. Definitely not fair for the taxpayers to fund
    the mistakes of Business establishments. If a worker wishes to
    participate in the profits, then that worker should also participate in
    the losses. Would you also demand that the worker be involved with
    decisions regarding running the business and business risk taking in
    volatile markets? Should the worker also benefit from the sale of the business?

    They would .... if they became shareholders!!
    --
    Daniel

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  • From Daniel65@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Mon Oct 17 19:33:03 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 5:14 am:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:53:14 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup
    Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours
    who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for
    nothing worthless capitalist trash.
     The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be
    over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.
     Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more
    "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.
     FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.
     P L O N K !
     Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes
    up so does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do
    agree with fair wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits
    go to the workers so the better the company does the better the
    workers do.
     No thanks, thats socialism.
     No, I do not believe it is.
     Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were
    also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable??

    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.

    Workers are in a real shit job if they make losses at their jobs!!
    --
    Daniel

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 17 19:46:53 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:33:03 +1100, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 5:14 am:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:53:14 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup
    Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours
    who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for
    nothing worthless capitalist trash.
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be >>>>>>>> over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.
    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more
    "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.
    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.
    P L O N K !
    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes
    up so does the cost of that product or service. Though I do
    agree with fair wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits
    go to the workers so the better the company does the better the
    workers do.
    No thanks, thats socialism.
    No, I do not believe it is.
    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were
    also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable??
    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.

    Workers are in a real shit job if they make losses at their jobs!!

    Christ you are fucking stupid. Its their employer that makes the loss,
    fuckwit.

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  • From Daniel65@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Mon Oct 17 20:47:57 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 7:46 pm:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:33:03 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 5:14 am:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:53:14 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup >>>>>>>> Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours
    who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for
    nothing worthless capitalist trash.
     The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be >>>>>>>>> over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.
     Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more
    "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.
     FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.
     P L O N K !
     Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes >>>>>>>> up so does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do
    agree with fair wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits >>>>>>>> go to the workers so the better the company does the better the >>>>>>>> workers do.
     No thanks, thats socialism.
     No, I do not believe it is.
     Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were
    also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable??
     That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.

    Workers are in a real shit job if they make losses at their jobs!!

    Christ you are fucking stupid. Its their employer that makes the loss, fuckwit.

    So WHY then, when I posted .....

    Quote
    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable??
    End Quote

    did YOU, asswipe, reply with ....

    Quote
    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.
    End Quote

    (See!! Both are still showing, above, asswipe!!)
    --
    Daniel

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  • From abelard@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Oct 17 12:22:31 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:13:32 -0700, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about. >>>
    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always.

    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive
    link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they
    will not exist.

    are you calling him a socialist!!

    how rude

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 06:56:53 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 20:47:57 +1100, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 7:46 pm:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:33:03 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 5:14 am:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:53:14 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup >>>>>>>>> Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours >>>>>>>>>> who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for >>>>>>>>>> nothing worthless capitalist trash.
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be >>>>>>>>>> over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.
    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more >>>>>>>>>> "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.
    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.
    P L O N K !
    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes >>>>>>>>> up so does the cost of that product or service. Though I do >>>>>>>>> agree with fair wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits >>>>>>>>> go to the workers so the better the company does the better the >>>>>>>>> workers do.
    No thanks, thats socialism.
    No, I do not believe it is.
    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were >>>>>> also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against >>>>> Tax payable??
    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.

    Workers are in a real shit job if they make losses at their jobs!!
    Christ you are fucking stupid. Its their employer that makes the loss,
    fuckwit.

    So WHY then, when I posted .....

    Quote
    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable??
    End Quote

    did YOU, asswipe, reply with ....

    Quote
    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.
    End Quote

    (See!! Both are still showing, above, asswipe!!)

    You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper
    bag and are clearly too stupid to even understand
    what happens to a bullet when fired from a gun either.

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to Vincent on Tue Oct 18 08:47:50 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 17/10/2022 5:26 pm, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/15/2022 5:40 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 16/10/2022 4:44 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:41 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    Its posts certainly looks like that.

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard
    work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to
    make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>>> does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with fair >>>>> wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    How about a disgruntled worker, going out and starting his/her /its
    own business and actually using human ingenuity to produce useful,
    new and profitable products. The person that invented the can opener
    produced millions of jobs around the world. The person that invented
    the Beer can opener produced a lot of hammered disgruntled..but happy
    after work hours. The person that invented Crack pipes brought out
    the best in folks like Ordog. ;-)

    Do you bother to actually read or think about the shit you write
    before hitting the 'send' button?

    Do you spit or swallow?

    I see being able to respond to what is written is not one of your skills.

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to Vincent on Tue Oct 18 08:46:52 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 17/10/2022 5:33 pm, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/15/2022 5:37 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 16/10/2022 4:37 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard
    work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to
    make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>>> does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with fair >>>>> wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.


    Yes, petz has earned his nick which is 'the village idiot of aus.pol'.

    Seeing as that was in response to my post, I corrected if for you.

    Liar. I've returned it to say exactly what I meant it to say.

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 08:53:55 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 17/10/2022 7:33 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 5:14 am:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:53:14 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup
    Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours
    who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for
    nothing worthless capitalist trash.
     The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be >>>>>>>> over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.
     Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more
    "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.
     FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.
     P L O N K !
     Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes
    up so does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do
    agree with fair wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits
    go to the workers so the better the company does the better the
    workers do.
     No thanks, thats socialism.
     No, I do not believe it is.
     Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were
    also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable??

    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.

    Workers are in a real shit job if they make losses at their jobs!!

    LOL. You were right the first time and Rod was thinking far too
    narrowly about worker's wages.

    Workers DO make what is in effect 'losses' as a result of doing their
    jobs. They can claim those 'losses' on their tax returns. Being
    ex-military, IIRC, you could have claimed, and been refunded by the Tax
    office, the laundering cost of your uniform. In my case I used to
    claim home office expenses, work stationary etc.

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 09:14:22 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 17/10/2022 7:44 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 17/10/22 5:03 pm:
    On 10/16/2022 3:53 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup >>>>>>> Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of
    hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours
    who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for
    nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be
    over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more
    "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !

    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes
    up so does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do
    agree with fair wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits >>>>>>> go to the workers so the better the company does the better the
    workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were
    also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable?? So the entire country carries the loss, not just the
    shareholders.

    That is also Socialism.

    Bullshit.

    Even in the US, which isn't interested in protecting the poor and which
    has an agressively pro-business, pro-individual vs the State tax system
    allows for losses to be offset against income. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tax-loss-carryforward.asp

    Definitely not fair for the taxpayers to fund
    the mistakes of Business establishments.

    Many 'losses' recognised as legitimate tax write offs have nothing to do
    with 'mistakes' made by businesses. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/ordinary-loss.asp

    If a worker wishes to
    participate in the profits, then that worker should also participate
    in the losses. Would you also demand that the worker be involved with
    decisions regarding running the business and business risk taking in
    volatile markets? Should the worker also benefit from the sale of the
    business?

    They would .... if they became shareholders!!

    Yep. And also in many countries workers are often involved in business decision making. I believe in Germany it goes by the name of 'co-determination'. https://en.dgb.de/fields-of-work/german-codetermination

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  • From abelard@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 00:35:26 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 09:28:10 +1100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
    wrote:

    On 17/10/2022 9:22 pm, abelard wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:13:32 -0700, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about. >>>>>
    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always.

    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive
    link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they
    will not exist.

    are you calling him a socialist!!

    No, he's not.

    how rude

    Even if he did say that, (which he didn't) in western countries it is
    the right of every individual to hold to hold any political
    beliefs/views that they choose to hold.

    indeed...however ridiculous

    They are often constrained from
    acting in support of those views if they are extreme (eg Republicans
    who've been jailed for their actions on 6 January) but they have every
    legal right in western democracies to hold those beliefs/views.


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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Oct 18 09:20:26 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 17/10/2022 7:13 pm, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about. >>>
    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always.

    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive
    link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they
    will not exist.

    LOL. His typical response when asked to prove something involves him
    claiming to remove "reams of your bullshit".

    He's a rightard and I wouldn't have any problem with that if he was at
    all rational, reasoned or analytical about how/why he holds those vies.
    Instead, he's just like an unreasoning, illogical and fact averse
    Trump supporter.

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to abelard on Tue Oct 18 09:28:10 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 17/10/2022 9:22 pm, abelard wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:13:32 -0700, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about. >>>>
    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always. >>
    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive
    link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they
    will not exist.

    are you calling him a socialist!!

    No, he's not.

    how rude

    Even if he did say that, (which he didn't) in western countries it is
    the right of every individual to hold to hold any political
    beliefs/views that they choose to hold. They are often constrained from
    acting in support of those views if they are extreme (eg Republicans
    who've been jailed for their actions on 6 January) but they have every
    legal right in western democracies to hold those beliefs/views.

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to abelard on Tue Oct 18 09:55:53 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 18/10/2022 9:35 am, abelard wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 09:28:10 +1100, Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
    wrote:

    On 17/10/2022 9:22 pm, abelard wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:13:32 -0700, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about.

    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always.

    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive >>>> link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they
    will not exist.

    are you calling him a socialist!!

    No, he's not.

    how rude

    Even if he did say that, (which he didn't) in western countries it is
    the right of every individual to hold to hold any political
    beliefs/views that they choose to hold.

    indeed...however ridiculous

    Yep. That why I love US politics. Ridiculous but better than slap stick
    They are often constrained from
    acting in support of those views if they are extreme (eg Republicans
    who've been jailed for their actions on 6 January) but they have every
    legal right in western democracies to hold those beliefs/views.


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  • From Vincent@21:1/5 to Fran on Mon Oct 17 18:33:25 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 10/17/2022 4:46 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 17/10/2022 5:33 pm, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/15/2022 5:37 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 16/10/2022 4:37 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard
    work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to
    make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human" >>>>>>> compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>>>> does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with >>>>>> fair
    wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.


    Yes, petz has earned his nick which is 'the village idiot of aus.pol'.

    Seeing as that was in response to my post, I corrected if for you.

    Liar.  I've returned it to say exactly what I meant it to say.

    Spit the dick out and enunciate so we can understand you.

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to Vincent on Tue Oct 18 12:14:48 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 18/10/2022 10:33 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/17/2022 4:46 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 17/10/2022 5:33 pm, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/15/2022 5:37 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 16/10/2022 4:37 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard >>>>>>>> work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to >>>>>>>> make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist
    trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal
    and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human" >>>>>>>> compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes >>>>>>> up so
    does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree with >>>>>>> fair
    wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.


    Yes, petz has earned his nick which is 'the village idiot of aus.pol'.

    Seeing as that was in response to my post, I corrected if for you.

    Liar.  I've returned it to say exactly what I meant it to say.

    Spit the dick out and enunciate so we can understand you.

    Just drop your juvenile sexual fixation and learn to read.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Tue Oct 18 01:15:10 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:45:02 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:13:32 +1100, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are
    about.

    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as
    always.

    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive
    link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they
    will not exist.

    Too much farting around to find it in this quite deep thread.

    Even you should be able to find it using the word socialism.

    So you lied. I'm not surprised.
    You are dismissed.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    activities director.

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  • From Daniel65@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Tue Oct 18 20:00:06 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    Rod Speed wrote on 18/10/22 6:56 am:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 20:47:57 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 7:46 pm:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:33:03 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 5:14 am:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:53:14 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup >>>>>>>>>> Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of >>>>>>>>>>> hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours >>>>>>>>>>> who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for >>>>>>>>>>> nothing worthless capitalist trash.
     The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be >>>>>>>>>>> over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard
    neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.
     Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more >>>>>>>>>>> "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you. >>>>>>>>>>>  FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.
     P L O N K !
     Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes >>>>>>>>>> up so does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do >>>>>>>>>> agree with fair wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits >>>>>>>>>> go to the workers so the better the company does the better the >>>>>>>>>> workers do.
     No thanks, thats socialism.
     No, I do not believe it is.
     Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were >>>>>>> also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against >>>>>> Tax payable??
     That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.

    Workers are in a real shit job if they make losses at their jobs!!
     Christ you are fucking stupid. Its their employer that makes the
    loss, fuckwit.

    So WHY then, when I posted .....

    Quote
    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable??
    End Quote

    did YOU, asswipe, reply with ....

    Quote
    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.
    End Quote

    (See!! Both are still showing, above, asswipe!!)

    You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper
    bag and are clearly too stupid to even understand

    Is that sort of like you, Roddles, putting up your hands in submission, Roddles??

    what happens to a bullet when fired from a gun either.

    Trying to change the subject by resurrecting an old discussion, Roddles!!
    --
    Daniel

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 01:15:24 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 12:22:31 +0200, abelard <abelard@abelard.org>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:13:32 -0700, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about. >>>>
    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always. >>
    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive
    link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they
    will not exist.

    are you calling him a socialist!!

    how rude

    Political views are irrelevant to my request. It's enough that
    Rod has made it clear he lied.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    activities director.

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  • From Daniel65@21:1/5 to Fran on Tue Oct 18 20:01:52 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    Fran wrote on 18/10/22 8:53 am:
    On 17/10/2022 7:33 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 5:14 am:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:53:14 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb
    <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real
    newsgroup Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu>
    wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every
    day of hard work done by those regularly abused
    employees of yours who slave away to make you rich
    you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless
    capitalist trash. The days of the disposable,
    mistreated working slaves will be over sooner than
    you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal
    and/or anarcho-capitalist creep. Bloodsucking leeches
    have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.
    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll. P L O N K !
    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a
    product goes up so does the cost of that product or
    service. Though I do agree with fair wages. Maybe
    make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.
    No thanks, thats socialism.
    No, I do not believe it is.
    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses
    were also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count
    against Tax payable??

    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.

    Workers are in a real shit job if they make losses at their jobs!!

    LOL. You were right the first time and Rod was thinking far too
    narrowly about worker's wages.

    Workers DO make what is in effect 'losses' as a result of doing their
    jobs. They can claim those 'losses' on their tax returns. Being ex-military, IIRC, you could have claimed, and been refunded by the
    Tax office, the laundering cost of your uniform.

    Correct!

    In my case I used to claim home office expenses, work stationary
    etc.
    --
    Daniel

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  • From abelard@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Oct 18 11:22:40 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 01:15:24 -0700, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 12:22:31 +0200, abelard <abelard@abelard.org>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:13:32 -0700, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are about. >>>>>
    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as always. >>>
    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive >>>link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they >>>will not exist.

    are you calling him a socialist!!

    how rude

    Political views are irrelevant to my request. It's enough that
    Rod has made it clear he lied.

    and centipedes sting

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  • From Ed Rhodes@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Oct 18 12:48:24 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 01:15:10 -0700, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:45:02 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:13:32 +1100, KWills <a@b.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:56:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    You never had had a fucking clue what socialism and communism are
    about.

    Really?

    Yep.

    Then tell the group.....here.....

    Already did. In one ear and straight out the other in your case, as
    always.

    If you did, you'll have no problem posting the MID and/or archive >>>link for the post. If you lied, neither will be presented, since they >>>will not exist.

    Too much farting around to find it in this quite deep thread.

    Even you should be able to find it using the word socialism.

    So you lied. I'm not surprised.
    You are dismissed.

    STFU, Sztajnberg.

    --

    Die Juden sind unser Unglück.
    - Heinrich Gotthard Freiherr von Treitschke (1834-1896)

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 23:43:27 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 20:00:06 +1100, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote on 18/10/22 6:56 am:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 20:47:57 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 7:46 pm:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:33:03 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote on 17/10/22 5:14 am:
    On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:53:14 +1100, Daniel65
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    PaxPerPoten wrote on 16/10/22 4:52 am:
    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb
    <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup >>>>>>>>>>> Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of >>>>>>>>>>>> hard work done by those regularly abused employees of yours >>>>>>>>>>>> who slave away to make you rich you greedy bastard good for >>>>>>>>>>>> nothing worthless capitalist trash.
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be >>>>>>>>>>>> over sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard >>>>>>>>>>>> neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.
    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more >>>>>>>>>>>> "human" compassion that worthless business scum like you. >>>>>>>>>>>> FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.
    P L O N K !
    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes >>>>>>>>>>> up so does the cost of that product or service. Though I do >>>>>>>>>>> agree with fair wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits >>>>>>>>>>> go to the workers so the better the company does the better the >>>>>>>>>>> workers do.
    No thanks, thats socialism.
    No, I do not believe it is.
    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were >>>>>>>> also shared.

    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count
    against
    Tax payable??
    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.

    Workers are in a real shit job if they make losses at their jobs!!
    Christ you are fucking stupid. Its their employer that makes the
    loss, fuckwit.

    So WHY then, when I posted .....

    Quote
    Isn't that done, effectively, by allowing the losses to count against
    Tax payable??
    End Quote

    did YOU, asswipe, reply with ....

    Quote
    That doesn't happen with the WORKERS wages.
    End Quote

    (See!! Both are still showing, above, asswipe!!)

    You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper
    bag and are clearly too stupid to even understand
    what happens to a bullet when fired from a gun either.

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  • From Mattb@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Tue Oct 18 08:56:34 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:36:07 -0500, PaxPerPoten <PPP@Yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/16/2022 11:31 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:37:12 -0500, Vincent <Vine@Letuci.org> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done >>>>>> by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>>> does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair >>>>> wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.

    Ordog and Fran are both good at it.

    Aren't they one and the same? Perhaps with a split self aggrandizing >personality.

    Maybe Fran is Ordog's drag name.

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Mattb on Tue Oct 18 11:43:12 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/18/2022 10:56 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:36:07 -0500, PaxPerPoten <PPP@Yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/16/2022 11:31 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:37:12 -0500, Vincent <Vine@Letuci.org> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>>>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human" >>>>>>> compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>>>> does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair >>>>>> wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.

    Ordog and Fran are both good at it.

    Aren't they one and the same? Perhaps with a split self aggrandizing
    personality.

    Maybe Fran is Ordog's drag name.

    Or visa versa.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From Vincent@21:1/5 to Fran on Tue Oct 18 11:41:00 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 10/17/2022 8:14 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 18/10/2022 10:33 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/17/2022 4:46 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 17/10/2022 5:33 pm, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/15/2022 5:37 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 16/10/2022 4:37 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup >>>>>>>> Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard >>>>>>>>> work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to >>>>>>>>> make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist >>>>>>>>> trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal >>>>>>>>> and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human" >>>>>>>>> compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes >>>>>>>> up so
    does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree
    with fair
    wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the
    workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.


    Yes, petz has earned his nick which is 'the village idiot of aus.pol'. >>>>
    Seeing as that was in response to my post, I corrected if for you.

    Liar.  I've returned it to say exactly what I meant it to say.

    Spit the dick out and enunciate so we can understand you.

    Just drop your juvenile sexual fixation and learn to read.

    Yawn... Move on... Get a life!

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Mattb on Wed Oct 19 05:15:25 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 02:56:34 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:36:07 -0500, PaxPerPoten <PPP@Yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/16/2022 11:31 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:37:12 -0500, Vincent <Vine@Letuci.org> wrote:

    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard
    work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to
    make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist
    trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal
    and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human" >>>>>>> compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up >>>>>> so
    does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with
    fair
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.

    Ordog and Fran are both good at it.

    Aren't they one and the same? Perhaps with a split self aggrandizing
    personality.

    Maybe Fran is Ordog's drag name.

    Nope, very different politically. The dog is a rabid communist, quite literally.

    The Flan is just anti coalition.

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  • From Petzl@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Wed Oct 19 07:55:09 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 05:15:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    snip
    wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.

    Ordog and Fran are both good at it.

    Aren't they one and the same? Perhaps with a split self aggrandizing
    personality.

    Maybe Fran is Ordog's drag name.

    Nope, very different politically. The dog is a rabid communist, quite >literally.

    Not able to explain what communism is though.

    The Flan is just anti coalition.

    Definitly a loony nutter
    Labor "Greens" are Termites. Political and social termites.
    I loathe them with a passion.
    They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.
    Explains Fran
    --
    Petzl
    The Greens have never done anything worthwhile to this country.
    All they are known for is being an arm of the ALP and handing them and
    vice versa, preferences at election time.

    Labor the best party that Chinese money can buy!

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  • From Fran@21:1/5 to Vincent on Wed Oct 19 12:16:23 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On 19/10/2022 3:41 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/17/2022 8:14 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 18/10/2022 10:33 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/17/2022 4:46 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 17/10/2022 5:33 pm, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/15/2022 5:37 PM, Fran wrote:
    On 16/10/2022 4:37 am, Vincent wrote:
    On 10/14/2022 4:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:16:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup >>>>>>>>> Devil
    <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard >>>>>>>>>> work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to >>>>>>>>>> make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist >>>>>>>>>> trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be >>>>>>>>>> over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal >>>>>>>>>> and/or
    anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human" >>>>>>>>>> compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


      Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes >>>>>>>>> up so
    does the cost of that product or service.  Though I do agree >>>>>>>>> with fair
    wages.   Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the
    workers so
    the better the company does the better the workers do.

    Ordog likes inflation?

    Likes being a moron!

    you have to admit, that he or it is good at it.


    Yes, petz has earned his nick which is 'the village idiot of
    aus.pol'.

    Seeing as that was in response to my post, I corrected if for you.

    Liar.  I've returned it to say exactly what I meant it to say.

    Spit the dick out and enunciate so we can understand you.

    Just drop your juvenile sexual fixation and learn to read.

    Yawn...  Move on... Get a life!

    Ditto to you.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?*=c3=96rd=c3=b6g*_the_rea@21:1/5 to Ed Rhodes on Wed Oct 19 13:08:05 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics

    Ed Rhodes wrote:

    STFU, Sztajnberg.

    FO from aus.politics! FOAD x-posting troll.

    PLONK!

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  • From Ed Rhodes@21:1/5 to devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu on Wed Oct 19 09:33:55 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 13:08:05 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Ed Rhodes wrote:

    STFU, Sztajnberg.

    FO from aus.politics! FOAD x-posting troll.

    PLONK!

    Up yours, dog.

    PLONK!
    --

    Die Juden sind unser Unglück.
    - Heinrich Gotthard Freiherr von Treitschke (1834-1896)

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  • From Mattb@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Wed Oct 19 10:04:23 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:19:30 -0500, PaxPerPoten <PPP@Yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/16/2022 11:37 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:52:09 -0500, PaxPerPoten <PPP@Yale.com> wrote:

    On 10/15/2022 12:50 AM, Mattb wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:41:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 04:16:41 +1100, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:20:58 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil >>>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:

    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you >>>>>>> rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash. >>>>>>>
    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over >>>>>>> sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or >>>>>>> anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human" >>>>>>> compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !


    Ordog forgets something, if the cost of making a product goes up so >>>>>> does the cost of that product or service. Though I do agree with fair >>>>>> wages. Maybe make a percentage of the profits go to the workers so >>>>>> the better the company does the better the workers do.

    No thanks, thats socialism.

    No, I do not believe it is.

    Profit sharing?? Wouldn't that only be fair if profit losses were also
    shared. Profit sharing is usually a benefit of stockholders. People that >>> actually have skin in the game. Part of my Bonuses were shares of stock
    to insure that I had skin in the game. I certainly had incentive to
    better the company in order to better my amount of skin in the game
    returns.

    I know of businesses that use profit sharing or a bonus system it
    seems to work well. Those opposed to it are normally the lazy.

    In the 1950's 60's & 70's profit sharing was utilized some some extant
    and did well until the Unions demanded a hand in running the business.
    The Stock holders bolted on that one! Apparently the Unions only wanted
    to collect and not to fund the future operations of a business like the
    Stock Market was designed to do. The commodities markets would be a good >example to study before jumping off the cliff. But all said and done,
    the Bonus system does well in most cases. At one time Companies gave
    fruit baskets, wine baskets, a Hard cash at Christmas time. I am aware
    of a Packing plant that paid for family medical emergencies. That was
    before Medical insurance was law required. If a worker wants to make
    some real money, get the Hell out of a Union, Start your own business
    and work your ass off long days and short nights for a few years. The >competition will be fierce and the Feds will make life a living Hell
    with regulations.

    The Fed and in some instances the State governments make life hell
    for some business.


    Ordog likes inflation?

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  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 12 20:46:24 2022
    XPost: alt.survival, misc.survivalism, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: can.politics, aus.politics

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 10/10/2022 10:20 PM, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil wrote:
    Vincent on a anarcho-capitalist trolling spree

    You want more money for your labor asshole ..
    That's right! A fair wage should be paid for every day of hard work done
    by those regularly abused employees of yours who slave away to make you
    rich you greedy bastard good for nothing worthless capitalist trash.

    The days of the disposable, mistreated working slaves will be over
    sooner than you might imagine, you greedy bastard neo-liberal and/or anarcho-capitalist creep.

    Bloodsucking leeches have more social conscience and more "human"
    compassion that worthless business scum like you.

    FOAD crossposting scumbag troll.

    P L O N K !



    I see you've never hired anyone.

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