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  • "Pending Update of Firefox snap" Error in Ubuntu

    From Andrei Z.@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 22 08:10:38 2022
    Fixing the “Pending Update of Firefox snap” Error in Ubuntu

    https://itsfoss.com/pending-update-firefox-ubuntu/

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@21:1/5 to Andrei Z. on Fri Jul 22 15:06:33 2022
    Andrei Z. wrote:
    Fixing the “Pending Update of Firefox snap” Error in Ubuntu

    https://itsfoss.com/pending-update-firefox-ubuntu/

    My solution was to dump the snap and use the ol' deb.

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
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    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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  • From stepore@21:1/5 to Jonathan N. Little on Fri Jul 22 22:46:28 2022
    On 7/22/22 12:06, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    My solution was to dump the snap and use the ol' deb.


    Lol. Same!

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Ray Hughes on Sat Jul 23 09:52:41 2022
    Ray Hughes wrote:
    I wonder, does anyone know what Linus thinks of Snaps
    if he thinks of them at all.

    Ha. LT is unhappy w/ 'everything' (related to packaging) which of
    course includes snaps. He's sorta source oriented. (last link)

    At the risk of my getting beat up again for having an opinion and being
    a 'narcist', my preferred packing is a .deb for the version of Ub repo/s
    I use for my Mint everyday driver.

    *BUT* I acknowledge that the .deb packaging is a major 'breach' of the
    ideas of unifying packaging around 'one' type of package, and the
    'expectation' that dev/s should 'have to' satisfy all of the 'myriad'
    different packaging schemes is 'terrible'.

    And, I think Snaps are one of the *worst* solutions. I think it would
    be 'nice' if there were some kind of middle ground that made it simple
    to be able to use such as a flatpak or appimage instead of having to go
    'all the way back' to source, so that it would be easier than compiling
    from source to 'derive' a 'fatter' package into a .deb or .rpm or whichever.

    <Deb hx>
    The earliest packaging tool, written by Ian Murdock and called dpkg, created a package in a Debian-specific binary format, and could be used later to unpack and install the files in the package.

    At about this time some debate arose between members of the project -- some felt that the Debian-specific format created by dpkg-deb should be dropped in favor of the format produced by the ar program. After several revised file formats and
    correspondingly-revised packaging tools, the ar format was adopted

    https://docs.huihoo.com/debian/manuals/project-history/ch-detailed.en.html

    https://thenewstack.io/canonicals-snap-great-good-bad-ugly/ Canonical’s
    Snap: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Ray Hughes@21:1/5 to stepore on Sat Jul 23 17:27:58 2022
    stepore <stepore@be.here.now> writes:

    On 7/22/22 12:06, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    My solution was to dump the snap and use the ol' deb.


    Lol. Same!

    I wonder, does anyone know what Linus thinks of Snaps
    if he thinks of them at all.

    RayH

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  • From Albert Arkwright@21:1/5 to Jonathan N. Little on Sat Jul 23 19:16:15 2022
    On 22/07/2022 20:06, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Andrei Z. wrote:
    Fixing the “Pending Update of Firefox snap” Error in Ubuntu

    https://itsfoss.com/pending-update-firefox-ubuntu/

    My solution was to dump the snap and use the ol' deb.

    I thought Mozilla have stopped creating .deb files. Debian still does it
    but they would because it is their brand!!.

    <http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_102.0.1-3_amd64.deb>

    <https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/102.0.1/linux-x86_64/en-GB/firefox-102.0.1.tar.bz2>

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  • From Ray Hughes@21:1/5 to Mike Easter on Sat Jul 23 22:58:37 2022
    Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> writes:

    Ray Hughes wrote:
    I wonder, does anyone know what Linus thinks of Snaps
    if he thinks of them at all.

    Ha. LT is unhappy w/ 'everything' (related to packaging) which of
    course includes snaps. He's sorta source oriented. (last link)

    At the risk of my getting beat up again for having an opinion and
    being a 'narcist', my preferred packing is a .deb for the version of
    Ub repo/s I use for my Mint everyday driver.

    *BUT* I acknowledge that the .deb packaging is a major 'breach' of the
    ideas of unifying packaging around 'one' type of package, and the 'expectation' that dev/s should 'have to' satisfy all of the 'myriad' different packaging schemes is 'terrible'.

    And, I think Snaps are one of the *worst* solutions. I think it would
    be 'nice' if there were some kind of middle ground that made it simple
    to be able to use such as a flatpak or appimage instead of having to
    go 'all the way back' to source, so that it would be easier than
    compiling from source to 'derive' a 'fatter' package into a .deb or
    .rpm or whichever.

    <Deb hx>
    The earliest packaging tool, written by Ian Murdock and called
    dpkg, created a package in a Debian-specific binary format, and
    could be used later to unpack and install the files in the package.

    At about this time some debate arose between members of the project -- some felt that the Debian-specific format created by dpkg-deb should be dropped in favor of the format produced by the ar program. After several revised file formats and
    correspondingly-revised packaging tools, the ar format was adopted

    https://docs.huihoo.com/debian/manuals/project-history/ch-detailed.en.html

    https://thenewstack.io/canonicals-snap-great-good-bad-ugly/
    Canonical’s Snap: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

    +1 Mike

    DebS oh how I misas them. :(

    I wish Canonsensical would create Snapbuntu and leave
    Ubuntu LTS alone.

    Its not the space so much that bothers me its the speed
    of the bloody things. I have the latest Dell XPS now and
    generally snaps and DEBs just run about the same but Even on my XPS 2019
    Snap apps are like swimming through treacle.

    I guess its going to be a long ugly winter.

    Shame because I love Buntus except these flaming snapcraps.

    RayH

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