Sure, Microsoft could easily create their own Linux distribution;
similarly to what Amazon has done. However, Ubuntu (made by
Canonical) is already the most used Linux distribution within
Microsoft Azure. Plus, Microsoft has had some close integration
in the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) for Windows 10 where
even though other Linux distros are supported, it?s clear that
Ubuntu is the preferred distribution to use with WSL. Due to this
popularity of Ubuntu Linux on the Microsoft Azure cloud platform,
and the tight integration using WSL with Windows 10; it really
seems to make perfect sense that if Microsoft wanted their own
Linux distribution for the Azure cloud and for Windows 10,
Microsoft would choose to continue this relationship to the next
level by acquiring the Canonical (the company that makes the
Ubuntu Linux distribution.)

Microsoft has even started targeting Linux with it?s desktop
software. The release of the Microsoft Teams desktop client
application for Linux is the first Microsoft Office application
released for Linux. With this release, Microsoft even stated that
it?s the ?first Microsoft 365 app coming to Linux?. Perhaps we?ll
even see Microsoft Word, PowerPoint, and others come to run
natively on Linux in the near future as well.

This growth of Linux adoption by Microsoft makes it seem that even
though the Windows OS will be here for the foreseeable future,
it?s becoming clearer that Linux taking over the server market
may only be the beginning. Linux is creeping into our desktop and
laptop machines slowly more and more. In the future, it may
become the dominant operating system for all uses. After all,
Linux is in most peoples pockets with Google?s Android OS too.
Microsoft acquiring Canonical and Ubuntu may be the best way for
Microsoft to stay relevant in the way of operating systems of the
future; for both server and desktop use.

Acquiring Ubuntu, the most popular Linux distribution in the cloud
and across the enterprise, may be the next best move to say
relevant in the operating system space. Especially since Windows
Server?s marketshare in the cloud (including Microsoft?s own
Azure cloud) has been slowly decreasing in favor of Linux and
most popularly Ubuntu.

Yes, on a related note, Microsoft has some big partnerships with
Red Hat for using Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) in Microsoft
Azure too. Ubuntu is not the only Linux distribution they?re
working with, among others that are supported in Azure as well.
However, these partnerships and support of many Linux
distributions doesn?t need to really be affected by the
acquisition of Ubuntu and Canonical. Those other distributions
can still continue to be supported within Azure, so long as
enterprises are still relying on them for their cloud-based
systems. Although, an even tighter integration of Ubuntu with
both Microsoft Azure and Windows 10 could help push forward
greater innovations in the ability to run Linux server in the
cloud, as well as integrating them into the traditionally
Windows-focused networks most enterprises are running
today.

It?s worth mentioning that the Linux uses by Microsoft mentioned
in this article so far are not the only ventures into embracing
Linux that Microsoft has done. They use Linux a lot themselves to
host many Microsoft Azure services, contribute to the Linux
kernel, use Linux for the Azure Sphere OS for IoT, support Linux
for IoT Edge devices with Azure IoT Edge, and much more. This
even includes the SONiC open source networking OS based on Linux
that runs the switches that power Microsoft Azure?s datacenters.
No matter what you think about Microsoft, they have very much
become an Open Source and Linux company in recent years. Formally
owning their own Linux distribution would take that to the next
level, and really cement their position in the Linux
space.


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Will Mark Shuttleworth sell to Microsoft?
Canonical?s Ubuntu Linux is not just the most popular Linux
distribution in Microsoft Azure. It is the most popular Linux
distribution across all clouds, and is the most popular Linux
distribution in use today. This is some massive success and the
growth of Ubuntu and Canonical puts the company at the forefront
of being an interesting acquisition target by companies like
Microsoft.

Since Canonical is a privately owned company, they don?t have
shares that can be bought up on the stock market for any kind of
hostile take over. Plus, for this type of acquisition, Microsoft
wouldn?t want to acquire the company that way anyway. As was done
peacefully, and great for the community, Microsoft will need to
come to some purchase agreement with Mark Shuttleworth,
Canonical?s founder.

As a company, Canonical is small enough that Microsoft could
easily afford to acquire it. According to Wikipedia, Canonical?s
revenue in 2018 was approximately $110 million. I don?t know what
the actual acquisition price would be, but it?s likely it would
take the form of a combination of cash and Microsoft stock in the
realm of somewhere between $770 million and $3.3 billion.
Although, given the popularity of Ubuntu, the company is most
likely work many times this amount. In reality we could be
looking at something more like a $30 billion acquisition.

My estimates of an acquisition price of between $770 million and
$3.3 billion are based on the acquisitions of GitHub and
LinkedIn. Microsoft acquired LinkedIn at $26 billion which is
roughly 7.2x it?s annual revenue at the time. And, Microsoft
acquired GitHub at $7.5 billion which is roughly 30x it?s annual
revenue at the time. Without knowing more about the finances of
Canonical, its seems to reason the acquisition price will be
somewhere in the realm of these numbers.

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Sativa GNutella <Sativa@gnutella.com> writes:

Will Mark Shuttleworth sell to Microsoft?
Canonical?s Ubuntu Linux is not just the most popular Linux
distribution in Microsoft Azure. It is the most popular Linux
distribution across all clouds, and is the most popular Linux
distribution in use today. This is some massive success and the
growth of Ubuntu and Canonical puts the company at the forefront
of being an interesting acquisition target by companies like
Microsoft.

My estimates of an acquisition price of between $770 million and
$3.3 billion are based on the acquisitions of GitHub and
LinkedIn. Microsoft acquired LinkedIn at $26 billion which is
roughly 7.2x it?s annual revenue at the time. And, Microsoft
acquired GitHub at $7.5 billion which is roughly 30x it?s annual
revenue at the time. Without knowing more about the finances of
Canonical, its seems to reason the acquisition price will be
somewhere in the realm of these numbers.

some snipping<<<<

I think Google would appose an MS takeover of Unbuntu.
It would then probably buy if for itself and then murder it.
Google OS could then be all over the world.

But MS buying Canonical would get to say a few top 500
Super computers were at last running an MS OS.

RayH. (Just thinking aloud.)

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On 8/5/22 11:18, Sativa GNutella wrote:

Sure, Microsoft could easily create their own Linux distribution;
similarly to what Amazon has done. However, Ubuntu (made by
Canonical) is already the most used Linux distribution within
Microsoft Azure. Plus, Microsoft has had some close integration
in the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) for Windows 10 where
even though other Linux distros are supported, it?s clear that
Ubuntu is the preferred distribution to use with WSL. Due to this
popularity of Ubuntu Linux on the Microsoft Azure cloud platform,
and the tight integration using WSL with Windows 10; it really
seems to make perfect sense that if Microsoft wanted their own
Linux distribution for the Azure cloud and for Windows 10,
Microsoft would choose to continue this relationship to the next
level by acquiring the Canonical (the company that makes the
Ubuntu Linux distribution.)

Microsoft has even started targeting Linux with it?s desktop
software. The release of the Microsoft Teams desktop client
application for Linux is the first Microsoft Office application
released for Linux. With this release, Microsoft even stated that
it?s the ?first Microsoft 365 app coming to Linux?. Perhaps we?ll
even see Microsoft Word, PowerPoint, and others come to run
natively on Linux in the near future as well.

This growth of Linux adoption by Microsoft makes it seem that even
though the Windows OS will be here for the foreseeable future,
it?s becoming clearer that Linux taking over the server market
may only be the beginning. Linux is creeping into our desktop and
laptop machines slowly more and more. In the future, it may
become the dominant operating system for all uses. After all,
Linux is in most peoples pockets with Google?s Android OS too.
Microsoft acquiring Canonical and Ubuntu may be the best way for
Microsoft to stay relevant in the way of operating systems of the
future; for both server and desktop use.

Acquiring Ubuntu, the most popular Linux distribution in the cloud
and across the enterprise, may be the next best move to say
relevant in the operating system space. Especially since Windows
Server?s marketshare in the cloud (including Microsoft?s own
Azure cloud) has been slowly decreasing in favor of Linux and
most popularly Ubuntu.

It is important to remember that IBM and Microsot have history and that
IBM already bought Red Hat.

bliss

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bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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On 6/8/2022 2:18 am, Sativa GNutella wrote:

Sure, Microsoft could easily create their own Linux distribution;
similarly to what Amazon has done. However, Ubuntu (made by
Canonical) is already the most used Linux distribution within
Microsoft Azure. Plus, Microsoft has had some close integration
in the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) for Windows 10 where
even though other Linux distros are supported, it?s clear that
Ubuntu is the preferred distribution to use with WSL. Due to this
popularity of Ubuntu Linux on the Microsoft Azure cloud platform,
and the tight integration using WSL with Windows 10; it really
seems to make perfect sense that if Microsoft wanted their own
Linux distribution for the Azure cloud and for Windows 10,
Microsoft would choose to continue this relationship to the next
level by acquiring the Canonical (the company that makes the
Ubuntu Linux distribution.)

Isn't SCO Unix a dead end? :)

And you have to consider the differences between frontend and backends.

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Ray Hughes <rhughes@rhughes-XPS-9320.i-did-not-s et--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Wrote in message:r

Sativa GNutella <Sativa@gnutella.com> writes:> Will Mark Shuttleworth sell to Microsoft?> Canonical?s Ubuntu Linux is not just the most popular Linux> distribution in Microsoft Azure. It is the most popular Linux> distribution across all clouds, and

is the most popular Linux> distribution in use today. This is some massive success and the> growth of Ubuntu and Canonical puts the company at the forefront> of being an interesting acquisition target by companies like> Microsoft.>> My estimates of
an acquisition price of between $770 million and> $3.3 billion are based on the acquisitions of GitHub and> LinkedIn. Microsoft acquired LinkedIn at $26 billion which is> roughly 7.2x it?s annual revenue at the time. And, Microsoft> acquired GitHub
at $7.5 billion which is roughly 30x it?s annual> revenue at the time. Without knowing more about the finances of> Canonical, its seems to reason the acquisition price will be> somewhere in the realm of these numbers.>>> some snipping<<<<I think
Google would appose an MS takeover of Unbuntu.It would then probably buy if for itself and then murder it.Google OS could then be all over the world.But MS buying Canonical would get to say a few top 500Super computers were at last running an MS OS.RayH.
(Just thinking aloud.)

If you read another post about SCO buying Unix, it seems that
Microsoft buying Ubuntu might do damage to Microsoft, like
everyone did see SCO suing Linux although SCO was paid by
Microsoft to sue and obliterate Linux.

This scenario would be great, Microsoft buying Canonical Ubuntu,
would be mind changing.

Microsoft already bought GitHub and sells open source code for
around $10 a month to automatically complete programmers
code.

Richard Stallman already worries how Microsoft earns money by
selling open source code.

Microsoft uses artificial intelligence to obfuscate the open
source code to get to the money.

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On 8/7/2022 10:22 AM, Sativa GNutella wrote:

This scenario would be great, Microsoft buying Canonical Ubuntu,
would be mind changing.

But they don't need to do any of this, as they have
staff with the skill set to do it all. Adding WSLg and
putting a Linux kernel under the hood, in the Windows 11
machine I'm typing this on, is proof of that.

What they're getting from Canonical at the moment, is
contract maintenance of an OS image. So that the
packages you can call in from the package manager,
will be known to be working properly.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/zvs2vXsS/WSLg-on-Win11.gif

*******

wsl --list --online

The following is a list of valid distributions that can be installed.
Install using 'wsl --install -d <Distro>'.

NAME FRIENDLY NAME
Ubuntu Ubuntu
Debian Debian GNU/Linux
kali-linux Kali Linux Rolling
openSUSE-42 openSUSE Leap 42
SLES-12 SUSE Linux Enterprise Server v12
Ubuntu-16.04 Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
Ubuntu-18.04 Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
Ubuntu-20.04 Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

That's a list of distros I can run from Terminal. In Win11.

Paul

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