• network manager

    From philo@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 16 10:40:16 2024
    First off, I cloned my Ubuntu 24.04 HD first and confirmed all was good.

    Now, with my old drive, I decided to experiment and see if I could
    remove packages so I'd have a minimal installation and of course,
    removed the network manager and now I'm off line and cannot easily
    reinstall.

    Since I'm dual booting with Mint, I can easily enough download packages
    I need, then boot back to Ubuntu to install them.

    Problem is, I am unable to install anything due to unmet dependencies.

    Is there some .deb meta package I can download to reinstall network capabilities.

    Hey, it's raining today and I needed another project.

    Last night I did an SCO-Unix install on an old machine just so I could
    play a certain text-based game.

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to philo on Sun Jun 16 11:16:46 2024
    On 6/16/24 10:40 AM, philo wrote:
    First off, I cloned my Ubuntu 24.04 HD first and confirmed all was good.

    Now, with my old drive, I decided to experiment and see if I could
    remove packages so I'd have a minimal installation and of course,
    removed the network manager and now I'm off line and cannot easily
    reinstall.

    Since I'm dual booting with Mint, I can easily enough download packages
    I need, then boot back to Ubuntu to install them.

    Problem is, I am unable to install anything due to unmet dependencies.

    Is there some .deb meta package I can download to reinstall network capabilities.

    Hey, it's raining today and I needed another project.

    Last night I did an SCO-Unix install on an old machine just so I could
    play a certain text-based game.



    LOL

    Fool with it for hours.
    Five minutes after I post this, I got it sorted out>

    One one my bigger screw ups.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to philo on Sun Jun 16 15:13:15 2024
    On 6/16/2024 12:16 PM, philo wrote:
    On 6/16/24 10:40 AM, philo wrote:
    First off, I cloned my Ubuntu 24.04 HD first and confirmed all was good.

    Now, with my old drive, I decided to experiment and see if I could remove packages so I'd have a minimal installation and of course, removed the network manager and now I'm off line and cannot easily reinstall.

    Since I'm dual booting with Mint, I can easily enough download packages I need, then boot back to Ubuntu to install them.

    Problem is, I am unable to install anything due to unmet dependencies.

    Is there some .deb meta package I can download to reinstall network capabilities.

    Hey, it's raining today and I needed another project.

    Last night I did an SCO-Unix install on an old machine just so I could play a certain text-based game.



    LOL

    Fool with it for hours.
    Five minutes after I post this, I got it sorted out>

    One one my bigger screw ups.

    They have various imaginative solutions here.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/422928/how-to-reinstall-network-manager-without-internet-access

    Paul

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Jun 16 15:45:57 2024
    On 6/16/24 2:13 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 6/16/2024 12:16 PM, philo wrote:
    On 6/16/24 10:40 AM, philo wrote:
    First off, I cloned my Ubuntu 24.04 HD first and confirmed all was good. >>>
    Now, with my old drive, I decided to experiment and see if I could remove packages so I'd have a minimal installation and of course, removed the network manager and now I'm off line and cannot easily reinstall.

    Since I'm dual booting with Mint, I can easily enough download packages I need, then boot back to Ubuntu to install them.

    Problem is, I am unable to install anything due to unmet dependencies.

    Is there some .deb meta package I can download to reinstall network capabilities.

    Hey, it's raining today and I needed another project.

    Last night I did an SCO-Unix install on an old machine just so I could play a certain text-based game.



    LOL

    Fool with it for hours.
    Five minutes after I post this, I got it sorted out>

    One one my bigger screw ups.

    They have various imaginative solutions here.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/422928/how-to-reinstall-network-manager-without-internet-access

    Paul



    I did figure it out and I like to have two projects going at the same
    time...so that's why I was also working on that SCO server.

    While I'm waiting for one task to complete on one machine, I can do
    something on the other.

    Before it installs, SCO does a thorough track check, so I now have two
    less drives in by spares box. One was a 4 gig and the other a 20. Not
    much of a loss.


    BTW: I had to Google for help quite a bit for that SCO installation and
    found a really good conversation.

    I was going to join in to at least thank the folks, then saw it was from
    1999. Not likely they are monitoring it :)

    Possibly for security reasons but if one makes too many errors issuing commands, the system logs you out.

    Working on a Unix machine was a real opportunity to see where Linux came
    from

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to Jonathan N. Little on Sun Jun 16 15:40:25 2024
    On 6/16/24 3:09 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    philo wrote:
    On 6/16/24 10:40 AM, philo wrote:
    First off, I cloned my Ubuntu 24.04 HD first and confirmed all was good. >>>
    Now, with my old drive, I decided to experiment and see if I could
    remove packages so I'd have a minimal installation and of course,
    removed the network manager and now I'm off line and cannot easily
    reinstall.

    Since I'm dual booting with Mint, I can easily enough download
    packages I need, then boot back to Ubuntu to install them.

    Problem is, I am unable to install anything due to unmet dependencies.

    Is there some .deb meta package I can download to reinstall network
    capabilities.

    Hey, it's raining today and I needed another project.

    Last night I did an SCO-Unix install on an old machine just so I could
    play a certain text-based game.



    LOL

    Fool with it for hours.
    Five minutes after I post this, I got it sorted out>

    One one my bigger screw ups.

    Just remember 1) you can always statically define your connection. 2)
    use a live session to download the network manager package and save it
    to your "broken" system drive.



    I was able to download packages from my other OS but it took me a few
    tries to get the one I needed installed.

    As long as a was fooling around, I transplanted both drives into a
    better machine.

    Both quad core with 16 gigs of ram but my present machine has a 3.2ghz
    CPU as compared to 2.7

    It made more of a difference that I thought.

    I was going to clone my SATA to an SSD, but really it's not going to be necessary.

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to philo on Wed Jun 19 13:12:52 2024
    On 6/16/24 10:40 AM, philo wrote:
    First off, I cloned my Ubuntu 24.04 HD first and confirmed all was good.

    Now, with my old drive, I decided to experiment and see if I could
    remove packages so I'd have a minimal installation and of course,
    removed the network manager and now I'm off line and cannot easily
    reinstall.

    Since I'm dual booting with Mint, I can easily enough download packages
    I need, then boot back to Ubuntu to install them.

    Problem is, I am unable to install anything due to unmet dependencies.

    Is there some .deb meta package I can download to reinstall network capabilities.

    Hey, it's raining today and I needed another project.

    Last night I did an SCO-Unix install on an old machine just so I could
    play a certain text-based game.


    I had a ton of fun the other day when I uninstalled some necessary
    network functions and could not use use Synaptic to retrieve them.

    Had down download from a different install and copy them to the drive
    manually. A major PITA


    Today, I found a drive in my workshop with Debian 7 on it.

    That was what lead the way to Ubuntu for me.

    Just for the heck of it, I tried to see if I could add a component using Synaptic.

    Since there were no valid on-line sources, it simply asked me to insert
    the original distribution media and it was all taken care of in a matter
    of seconds.

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  • From Mark Bourne@21:1/5 to philo on Wed Jun 19 20:55:53 2024
    philo wrote:
    I had a ton of fun the other day when I uninstalled some necessary
    network functions and could not use use Synaptic to retrieve them.

    Had down download from a different install and copy them to the drive manually. A major PITA


    Today, I found a drive in my workshop with Debian 7 on it.

    That was what lead the way to Ubuntu for me.

    Just for the heck of it, I tried to see if I could add a component using Synaptic.

    Since there were no valid on-line sources, it simply asked me to insert
    the original distribution media and it was all taken care of in a matter
    of seconds.

    On my Linux Mint system, /etc/apt/sources.list contains:
    ```
    #deb cdrom:[Linux Mint ...]/ focal contrib main

    # This system was installed using small removable media
    # (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom"
    # entries were disabled at the end of the installation process.
    # For information about how to configure apt package sources,
    # see the sources.list(5) manual.
    ```

    I don't have an Ubuntu system handy right now, but as far as I recall it
    does something similar. I don't know if you can just uncomment that
    "deb cdrom" line to re-enable installing from the original DVD?

    --
    Mark.

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to Mark Bourne on Wed Jun 19 15:44:56 2024
    On 6/19/24 2:55 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:
    philo wrote:
    I had a ton of fun the other day when I uninstalled some necessary
    network functions and could not use use Synaptic to retrieve them.

    Had down download from a different install and copy them to the drive
    manually. A major PITA


    Today, I found a drive in my workshop with Debian 7 on it.

    That was what lead the way to Ubuntu for me.

    Just for the heck of it, I tried to see if I could add a component
    using Synaptic.

    Since there were no valid on-line sources, it simply asked me to
    insert the original distribution media and it was all taken care of in
    a matter of seconds.

    On my Linux Mint system, /etc/apt/sources.list contains:
    ```
    #deb cdrom:[Linux Mint ...]/ focal contrib main

    # This system was installed using small removable media
    # (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom"
    # entries were disabled at the end of the installation process.
    # For information about how to configure apt package sources,
    # see the sources.list(5) manual.
    ```

    I don't have an Ubuntu system handy right now, but as far as I recall it
    does something similar.  I don't know if you can just uncomment that
    "deb cdrom" line to re-enable installing from the original DVD?



    That is exactly the problem.

    The distribution is too large for a cd or DVD, it has to be on a USB stick

    The only option from Synaptic other than an on-line repository is a cd
    or DVD. There is no USB stick option.

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to philo on Wed Jun 19 16:58:05 2024
    On 6/19/24 13:12, philo wrote:

    [snip]

    I had a ton of fun the other day when I uninstalled some necessary
    network functions and could not use use Synaptic to retrieve them.

    That happened to me once. I've since forgotten how I fixed it, but
    suppose it involved downloading it using a different computer.

    [snip]

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Hell is an outrage on humanity. When you tell me that your Deity made
    you in his own image, I reply that he must have been very ugly." [Victor
    Hugo]

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Wed Jun 19 17:18:43 2024
    On 6/19/24 4:58 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
    On 6/19/24 13:12, philo wrote:

    [snip]

    I had a ton of fun the other day when I uninstalled some necessary
    network functions and could not use use Synaptic to retrieve them.

    That happened to me once. I've since forgotten how I fixed it, but
    suppose it involved downloading it using a different computer.

    [snip]



    Yes, that's why my main machines are setup to dual boot.

    I think this was the first time I had to rely on that.

    Now I need to figure out how to tell the folks at Ubuntu

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to philo on Wed Jun 19 17:27:56 2024
    On 6/19/24 5:18 PM, philo wrote:
    On 6/19/24 4:58 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
    On 6/19/24 13:12, philo wrote:

    [snip]

    I had a ton of fun the other day when I uninstalled some necessary
    network functions and could not use use Synaptic to retrieve them.

    That happened to me once. I've since forgotten how I fixed it, but
    suppose it involved downloading it using a different computer.

    [snip]



    Yes, that's why my main machines are setup to dual boot.

    I think this was the first time I had to rely on that.

    Now I need to figure out how to tell the folks at Ubuntu


    Did not even remember that I had an account with them.
    Logged in and wen to the "leave message" option where I have to fill in
    my name and email.

    The spaces will NOT accept text...so there is a bug in their
    notification system...why would I be surprised.

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to philo on Wed Jun 19 17:35:39 2024
    On 6/19/24 5:27 PM, philo wrote:
    On 6/19/24 5:18 PM, philo wrote:
    On 6/19/24 4:58 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
    On 6/19/24 13:12, philo wrote:

    [snip]

    I had a ton of fun the other day when I uninstalled some necessary
    network functions and could not use use Synaptic to retrieve them.

    That happened to me once. I've since forgotten how I fixed it, but
    suppose it involved downloading it using a different computer.

    [snip]



    Yes, that's why my main machines are setup to dual boot.

    I think this was the first time I had to rely on that.

    Now I need to figure out how to tell the folks at Ubuntu


    Did not even remember that I had an account with them.
    Logged in and wen to the "leave message" option where I have to fill in
    my name and email.

    The spaces will NOT accept text...so there is a bug in their
    notification system...why would I be surprised.


    LOL, I put my name into a text editor and was able to cut and past that
    into their box...after that I could enter text into the rest.

    This stuff really make one think

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