• Re: I'm going to bugger off - because I'm a Windroid

    From Jonathan N. Little@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 15 11:34:23 2022
    bilsch01 wrote:
    It's been nice reading and writing here but I just got a free upgrade to Windows 11 (though I do double boot) so I'm going to bugger off for a
    while - as was suggested so many times in the past.

    By the way who was that guy that used to tell people:
    'bugger off' Windroid?

    It was Dan C, but there cranks everywhere. Win 11, eh? Good luck with that.

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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  • From Aragorn@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 15 17:36:55 2022
    On 15.02.2022 at 08:15, bilsch01 scribbled:

    It's been nice reading and writing here but I just got a free upgrade
    to Windows 11 (though I do double boot) so I'm going to bugger off
    for a while - as was suggested so many times in the past.

    By the way who was that guy that used to tell people:
    'bugger off' Windroid?

    That was Dan C.

    I don't know whether he's still around, though; I killfiled him ages
    ago, and I haven't seen anyone replying to any posts of his either —
    not even in the Slackware group.

    But then again, he may just be lurking, and without giving away too
    much, I have a strong suspicion that he might be posting through a
    couple of sock puppets.

    --
    With respect,
    = Aragorn =

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  • From bilsch01@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 15 08:15:55 2022
    It's been nice reading and writing here but I just got a free upgrade to Windows 11 (though I do double boot) so I'm going to bugger off for a
    while - as was suggested so many times in the past.

    By the way who was that guy that used to tell people:
    'bugger off' Windroid?

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  • From andrew@21:1/5 to Aragorn on Wed Feb 16 00:45:34 2022
    On 2022-02-15, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:

    That was Dan C.

    I don't know whether he's still around, though; I killfiled him ages
    ago, and I haven't seen anyone replying to any posts of his either —
    not even in the Slackware group.

    Oddly enough I 'met' him the other day at #slackbuilds on liberachat
    where he goes as Dan_C. I had a brief exchange with him about the old
    days, he has not done Usenet for some time now.

    Mind you every year my own individual.net subscription comes up I weigh
    up whether the current state of Usenet justifies €10...

    Andrew
    --
    You think that's air you're breathing now?

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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to andrew on Wed Feb 16 02:02:41 2022
    On 16.02.2022 01:45, andrew wrote:

    Mind you every year my own individual.net subscription comes up I weigh
    up whether the current state of Usenet justifies €10...

    The current state of Usenet is certainly a valid question on its own,
    but if it's the fee there's also free servers.

    Janis

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  • From Bit Twister@21:1/5 to andrew on Tue Feb 15 19:17:58 2022
    On 16 Feb 2022 00:45:34 GMT, andrew wrote:
    On 2022-02-15, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:

    Mind you every year my own individual.net subscription comes up I weigh
    up whether the current state of Usenet justifies €10...

    I like the free subscription Eternal September.
    https://www.eternal-september.org/

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Bit Twister on Tue Feb 15 22:33:39 2022
    On 2/15/22 17:17, Bit Twister wrote:
    On 16 Feb 2022 00:45:34 GMT, andrew wrote:
    On 2022-02-15, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:

    Mind you every year my own individual.net subscription comes up I weigh
    up whether the current state of Usenet justifies €10...

    I like the free subscription Eternal September.
    https://www.eternal-september.org/

    And I doubt the service could be better.
    I was willing to pay for the news.individual.net
    which is a very fair fee the last I knew but
    the vendor could not take my bank cc.

    bliss - brought to you by the power and ease of PCLinuxOS
    nd a minor case of hypergraphia

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Janis Papanagnou on Tue Feb 15 22:27:13 2022
    On 2/15/22 17:02, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
    On 16.02.2022 01:45, andrew wrote:

    Mind you every year my own individual.net subscription comes up I weigh
    up whether the current state of Usenet justifies €10...

    The current state of Usenet is certainly a valid question on its own,
    but if it's the fee there's also free servers.

    Janis

    For instance I am reading your thread
    at free news.eternal-september.org run by the ever
    amiable Ray Banana. So I use Thunderbird though I
    could use SeaMonkey but with less facility. But
    in our eternal-september.test I see plenty of the
    gui-less tools tested on a regular basis. So you
    have your choice of FOSS software to use.

    What is costs me is what my net connecting costs me
    which is too much, imho, but a matter for other times.


    bliss - brought to you by the power and ease of PCLinuxOS
    and a minor case of hypergraphia

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Wed Feb 16 11:03:29 2022
    On 16.02.2022 07:27, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 2/15/22 17:02, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
    On 16.02.2022 01:45, andrew wrote:

    Mind you every year my own individual.net subscription comes up I weigh
    up whether the current state of Usenet justifies €10...

    The current state of Usenet is certainly a valid question on its own,
    but if it's the fee there's also free servers.

    For instance I am reading your thread
    at free news.eternal-september.org [...]

    What is costs me is what my net connecting costs me
    which is too much, imho, but a matter for other times.

    My ISP had provided a Usenet server (and I used aioe.org as backup).
    Meanwhile my ISP discontinued the Usenet service without providing
    any alternatives. So I switched to eternal-september.org in addition
    to aioe.org to access Usenet. Despite the "current state of Usenet"
    I hope this access will still be possible in the future; better than
    using Google Groups anyway.

    Janis

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  • From Aragorn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 16 11:45:37 2022
    On 16.02.2022 at 00:45, andrew scribbled:

    On 2022-02-15, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:

    That was Dan C.

    I don't know whether he's still around, though; I killfiled him ages
    ago, and I haven't seen anyone replying to any posts of his either —
    not even in the Slackware group.

    Oddly enough I 'met' him the other day at #slackbuilds on liberachat
    where he goes as Dan_C. I had a brief exchange with him about the old
    days, he has not done Usenet for some time now.

    Mind you every year my own individual.net subscription comes up I
    weigh up whether the current state of Usenet justifies €10...

    Well, for what it's worth, I'm using news.eternal-september.org, which
    is completely free of charge, albeit that it does not support binaries,
    if you're into that sort of thing — personally, I'm not.

    It does require registration with a valid email address, though, but
    you're not obligated to use said email address as the visible address in
    your newsreader. It's only for the registration and activation of your
    account.

    E-S does on occasion have outages, but for most part it works very well.

    As for my own presence on Usenet, well, I'm not sure why I'm still here
    either. I've been a regular here for well over 20 years now, and maybe
    that's why I'm holding on, even though people come and people go, and
    the times have certainly changed.

    Back when I first started participating in Usenet discussions regarding GNU/Linux, pretty much everyone was an enthusiast, and most of the
    experienced users come from a background in proprietary UNIX. One
    didn't have to be proficient in using a command line, but nobody was
    allergic to it either, and we would often recommend solutions that were command-line-based to the newbies.

    Nowadays however, people don't even seem able to navigate a few menus
    anymore, and everyone appears to be in a Microsoft Windows mindset.
    That, or they are US-political right-wing bigots — I count Dan C as one
    of those, and that's only one of the many reasons why he's in my
    killfile.

    Anywho, I've also got my hands full with the Manjaro forum, where I am
    a moderator, as well as — at this point in time still — also the forum's leader in terms of the number of accepted solutions to reported
    problems. (If it sounds like I'm bragging, I'm not — sooner or later
    someone else is going to overtake me anyway — but I'm also not going to
    lie and claim that I'm not a little bit proud of it either. :))

    And then next to that, I've also got a whole other forum to tend to.
    It's not a computer-related forum, but there I am the sole administrator
    — albeit not the owner of the place, but the owner himself doesn't
    have any time left anymore for running the place, which is why he hired
    me — with two moderators to help me out.

    But we're all volunteers and we all do that in our own free time. Just
    as is the case for my presence on Usenet. And I'm not getting any
    younger or healthier. As the matter of fact, right now I'm sitting
    here with a fever and a headache due to trapped nerves both in my lower
    back and in my neck. And the day has only just begun.

    Maybe one day I'll throw in the towel on account of my presence on
    Usenet. But not today, and not for a while still, barring a sudden and unexpected termination of my mortal existence — hey, shit does happen,
    and it hasn't even been a year ago that I lost my baby sister.

    The only two things you can take for granted about life is that you're
    going to die eventually, and that one way or another, bad shit will
    happen to you. Everything else is a variable.

    <shrug>

    --
    With respect,
    = Aragorn =

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to Aragorn on Wed Feb 16 10:57:05 2022
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    Aragorn wrote:
    The only two things you can take for granted about life is that you're
    going to die eventually, and that one way or another, bad shit will
    happen to you. Everything else is a variable.

    Don't forget taxes. ;)


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  • From Dan C@21:1/5 to Aragorn on Wed Feb 16 14:29:25 2022
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:36:55 +0100, Aragorn wrote:

    On 15.02.2022 at 08:15, bilsch01 scribbled:

    It's been nice reading and writing here but I just got a free upgrade
    to Windows 11 (though I do double boot) so I'm going to bugger off for
    a while - as was suggested so many times in the past.

    By the way who was that guy that used to tell people:
    'bugger off' Windroid?

    That was Dan C.

    I don't know whether he's still around, though; I killfiled him ages
    ago, and I haven't seen anyone replying to any posts of his either —
    not even in the Slackware group.

    I'm still around, I just check in once in a while. There's virtually no content left worth talking about, just troll garbage.

    But then again, he may just be lurking, and without giving away too
    much, I have a strong suspicion that he might be posting through a
    couple of sock puppets.

    Even "lurking" is a stretch, I check on things quite rarely in here these
    days. Just happened to today, as I was looking for an e-book.

    Your "suspicion" is bullshit, as always. I post only from this name, and
    have always done things that way. No sock puppets here. If you knew
    anything about Usenet and how to check things like headers (and more),
    you'd know that to be true.

    Bugger off, feeb.


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
    "Bother!" said Pooh, as Piglet refused to give him some Pooh-tang.
    Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
    Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

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  • From Dan C@21:1/5 to Aragorn on Wed Feb 16 14:33:07 2022
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 11:45:37 +0100, Aragorn wrote:

    <SNIP>

    Nowadays however, people don't even seem able to navigate a few menus anymore, and everyone appears to be in a Microsoft Windows mindset.
    That, or they are US-political right-wing bigots — I count Dan C as one
    of those, and that's only one of the many reasons why he's in my
    killfile.

    Hahahaha! You're such an idiot. I'm not in your KF, and we all know it.

    <SNIP remaining self-praise and crowing>

    Bugger off, feeb.


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
    "Bother!" said Pooh, as the Facehugger impregnated him.
    Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
    Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to You on Wed Feb 16 09:05:49 2022
    bilsch01 wrote:
    Subject: I'm going to bugger off - because I'm a Windroid

    You /are/ posting here via Win Tb, so that would result in a windroid
    label, but I think you can be a Win user /and/ a linux user. The
    business of how one does that depends.

    You said

    though I do double boot

    ... but to me that isn't the best way to do it. It is too much trouble
    to transition from one system to another.

    Some say a better way is w/ VM, but that doesn't suit my own situation.

    Right now, to my right is another system; it happens to be running WinXP
    and has a digital v. of my daily newspaper onscreen. I just finished
    some puzzles I was doing from that source.

    Altho' I considered it 'rude' of Dan C to tell those participating in
    linux groups under Win to bugger off, I agreed in a sense that getting
    to know linux was best done by participating in ng/s in *linux* not win,
    so I tho't the 'windroids' (based on the metric of posting user agent)
    should get more involved w/ linux so they could post to linux groups
    while they were in linux.

    So personally my own preferred method is to use multiple machines, be
    99% in linux using installed, live, and live w/ persistence linux
    versions. My favorite live w/ persistence method is using mkusb
    persistence, my favorite live multibooting is Ventoy, and my occasional
    Win/s are W7, XP, and almost never a W10 which laptop would rather run a
    live linux w/ persistence. My current fave linux is Mint Cinnamon, but
    I also like KDE Neon and don't care much for any Gnome, but I continue
    to boot various distro/s of that DE because I didn't use to dislike it.


    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Aragorn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 16 19:40:34 2022
    On 16.02.2022 at 10:57, Dan Purgert scribbled:

    Aragorn wrote:

    The only two things you can take for granted about life is that
    you're going to die eventually, and that one way or another, bad
    shit will happen to you. Everything else is a variable.

    Don't forget taxes. ;)

    That falls under "bad shit". :p

    --
    With respect,
    = Aragorn =

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to Aragorn on Wed Feb 16 19:16:07 2022
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    Aragorn wrote:
    On 16.02.2022 at 10:57, Dan Purgert scribbled:

    Aragorn wrote:

    The only two things you can take for granted about life is that
    you're going to die eventually, and that one way or another, bad
    shit will happen to you. Everything else is a variable.

    Don't forget taxes. ;)

    That falls under "bad shit". :p

    Fair enough, heh.


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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Bit Twister on Sat Feb 26 03:04:12 2022
    On 16.02.2022 02:17, Bit Twister wrote:

    I like the free subscription Eternal September.
    https://www.eternal-september.org/

    Is it just my environment that for hours I could not access that
    news-server, or is it a (temporary or permanent) server issue?

    (Currently having switched to the aioe.org server as backup.)

    Janis

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Janis Papanagnou on Fri Feb 25 23:38:12 2022
    On 2/25/2022 9:04 PM, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
    On 16.02.2022 02:17, Bit Twister wrote:

    I like the free subscription Eternal September.
    https://www.eternal-september.org/

    Is it just my environment that for hours I could not access that
    news-server, or is it a (temporary or permanent) server issue?

    (Currently having switched to the aioe.org server as backup.)

    Janis


    The electrons in the server have gone on strike. (I'm getting
    no NNTP connection response at all here. The web site page comes up,
    but the status insert is missing.)

    http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=status

    But the electrons will return.

    To check the situation, try eternal-september.support
    newsgroup for details.

    People post via aioe.org, into that group, to get the
    attention of the administrator, when he gets home from work.

    Paul

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  • From Bud Frede@21:1/5 to Aragorn on Sun Feb 27 08:36:50 2022
    Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> writes:

    On 15.02.2022 at 08:15, bilsch01 scribbled:

    It's been nice reading and writing here but I just got a free upgrade
    to Windows 11 (though I do double boot) so I'm going to bugger off
    for a while - as was suggested so many times in the past.

    By the way who was that guy that used to tell people:
    'bugger off' Windroid?

    That was Dan C.

    I don't know whether he's still around, though; I killfiled him ages
    ago, and I haven't seen anyone replying to any posts of his either —
    not even in the Slackware group.

    But then again, he may just be lurking, and without giving away too
    much, I have a strong suspicion that he might be posting through a
    couple of sock puppets.

    He had some interesting things to say when he wasn't going off on
    someone. I guess he let his anger start to control him when posting on
    Usenet.

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  • From Dan C@21:1/5 to Bud Frede on Mon Mar 7 19:48:21 2022
    On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 08:36:50 -0500, Bud Frede wrote:

    Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> writes:

    On 15.02.2022 at 08:15, bilsch01 scribbled:

    It's been nice reading and writing here but I just got a free upgrade
    to Windows 11 (though I do double boot) so I'm going to bugger off for
    a while - as was suggested so many times in the past.

    By the way who was that guy that used to tell people:
    'bugger off' Windroid?

    That was Dan C.

    I don't know whether he's still around, though; I killfiled him ages
    ago, and I haven't seen anyone replying to any posts of his either —
    not even in the Slackware group.

    But then again, he may just be lurking, and without giving away too
    much, I have a strong suspicion that he might be posting through a
    couple of sock puppets.

    He had some interesting things to say when he wasn't going off on
    someone. I guess he let his anger start to control him when posting on Usenet.

    I'm still around, checking in occasionally. The place is even more of a
    sewer than it used to be.

    Oh, and I never let my "anger" (?) control me in any way.


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
    "Bother!" said Pooh, as he sold Eyore to the glue factory.
    Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
    Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg

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  • From bad sector@21:1/5 to andrew on Tue Sep 20 13:12:32 2022
    On 2/15/22 19:45, andrew wrote:
    On 2022-02-15, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:

    That was Dan C.

    I don't know whether he's still around, though; I killfiled him ages
    ago, and I haven't seen anyone replying to any posts of his either —
    not even in the Slackware group.

    Oddly enough I 'met' him the other day at #slackbuilds on liberachat
    where he goes as Dan_C. I had a brief exchange with him about the old
    days, he has not done Usenet for some time now.

    Mind you every year my own individual.net subscription comes up I weigh
    up whether the current state of Usenet justifies €10...

    Andrew


    Where else can you be in the company of sick fucks and feel at home?


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    Artificial-Stupidity will never be competitive

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