• Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without

    From Planet of the apes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 08:43:00 2025
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    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to
    a new audit.

    The agency’s inspector general found errors in the government’s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as individuals
    who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf of another person
    who is incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no SSN
    on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426 representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not followed its policy to
    retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will pay
    about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative payees who
    do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did not
    keep paper applications supporting an individual’s case to receive
    benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system if their
    status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly
    recorded, based on the audit’s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in the
    sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were undocumented
    noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and transferring representative
    payee information "may have resulted in applications showing as terminated
    or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many beneficiaries’
    lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7 million representative
    payees managing annual benefits for approximately 8 million beneficiaries.
    When appointing representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides outside the United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to serve as payee,"
    the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a person’s
    SSN (or employer identification number) in our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant must have an
    SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual from
    serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Planet of the apes on Tue Mar 25 08:51:59 2025
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    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to
    a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were discovered.



    The agency’s inspector general found errors in the government’s documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as individuals
    who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf of another person
    who is incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no SSN
    on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426 representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative payees who
    do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did not keep paper applications supporting an individual’s case to receive
    benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system if their
    status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly recorded, based on the audit’s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and transferring representative
    payee information "may have resulted in applications showing as terminated
    or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many beneficiaries’ lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7 million representative payees managing annual benefits for approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides outside the United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to serve as payee,"
    the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a person’s SSN (or employer identification number) in our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 11:34:37 2025
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    In article <vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to
    a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were discovered.



    The agency?s inspector general found errors in the government?s documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as individuals
    who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf of another person who is incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426 representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative payees who
    do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did not keep paper applications supporting an individual?s case to receive
    benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system if their
    status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly recorded, based on the audit?s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and transferring representative payee information "may have resulted in applications showing as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many beneficiaries? lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7 million representative payees managing annual benefits for approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides outside the United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to serve as payee," the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a person?s SSN (or employer identification number) in our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.

    BLAME TRUMP! You morons make me laugh.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Mar 25 20:37:26 2025
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    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were
    discovered.



    The agency’s inspector general found errors in the government’s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as
    individuals who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf
    of another person who is incapable of managing the benefits
    themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative
    payees who do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their
    selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individual’s case to
    receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system
    if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly
    recorded, based on the audit’s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in
    the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were
    undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and transferring
    representative payee information "may have resulted in applications
    showing as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiaries’ lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7
    million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain
    circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides
    outside the United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to
    serve as payee," the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we
    should verify a person’s SSN (or employer identification number) in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does not
    state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual
    from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping failure.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 15:05:59 2025
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    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were discovered.



    The agency�s inspector general found errors in the government�s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as
    individuals who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf
    of another person who is incapable of managing the benefits
    themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative
    payees who do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their
    selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individual�s case to
    receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system
    if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly
    recorded, based on the audit�s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in
    the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were
    undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and transferring
    representative payee information "may have resulted in applications
    showing as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiaries� lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7
    million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain
    circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides
    outside the United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to
    serve as payee," the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we
    should verify a person�s SSN (or employer identification number) in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does not
    state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual
    from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping failure.

    Fire the record keepers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Mar 25 15:44:46 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    On 2025-03-25 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to >>> a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were discovered. >>


    The agency?s inspector general found errors in the government?s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as individuals
    who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf of another person >>> who is incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no SSN >>> on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426 representative >>> payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not followed its policy to
    retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will pay >>> about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative payees who >>> do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their selection," the >>> inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did not >>> keep paper applications supporting an individual?s case to receive
    benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system if their
    status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly
    recorded, based on the audit?s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in the
    sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were undocumented
    noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new Electronic
    Representative Payee System last year, and transferring representative
    payee information "may have resulted in applications showing as terminated >>> or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many beneficiaries?
    lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7 million representative
    payees managing annual benefits for approximately 8 million beneficiaries. >>> When appointing representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social >>> Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain
    circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides outside the >>> United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to serve as payee," >>> the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a person?s >>> SSN (or employer identification number) in our investigation of the payee >>> applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant must have an >>> SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual from
    serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.

    BLAME TRUMP! You morons make me laugh.

    I didn't blame him...

    ...I just want to know what was done about it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 17:00:07 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    In article <vrvbku$ap8p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-03-25 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to >>> a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were discovered.



    The agency?s inspector general found errors in the government?s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as individuals >>> who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf of another person >>> who is incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no SSN >>> on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426 representative >>> payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not followed its policy to >>> retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will pay >>> about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative payees who >>> do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their selection," the >>> inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did not >>> keep paper applications supporting an individual?s case to receive
    benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system if their
    status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly
    recorded, based on the audit?s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in the >>> sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were undocumented
    noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new Electronic >>> Representative Payee System last year, and transferring representative >>> payee information "may have resulted in applications showing as terminated
    or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many beneficiaries?
    lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7 million representative >>> payees managing annual benefits for approximately 8 million beneficiaries.
    When appointing representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social
    Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain
    circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides outside the
    United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to serve as payee," >>> the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a person?s
    SSN (or employer identification number) in our investigation of the payee >>> applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant must have an
    SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual from >>> serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.

    BLAME TRUMP! You morons make me laugh.

    I didn't blame him...

    ...I just want to know what was done about it.

    About what? No elegable person is going to lose anything.
    But you are playing the system then look out.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Mar 25 23:20:35 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    On 2025-03-25, Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote:
    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were
    discovered.



    The agency�s inspector general found errors in the government�s >> >> documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as
    individuals who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf
    of another person who is incapable of managing the benefits
    themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative
    payees who do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their
    selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individual�s case to
    receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system
    if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly
    recorded, based on the audit�s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in
    the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were
    undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and transferring
    representative payee information "may have resulted in applications
    showing as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiaries� lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7
    million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain
    circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides
    outside the United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to
    serve as payee," the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we
    should verify a person�s SSN (or employer identification number) in >> >> our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does not
    state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual
    from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping failure.

    Fire the record keepers.

    Normally SSN are not reused when someone dies.
    I think we have like 60 years before we run out of new numbers.

    However, the biggest issue IMHO is the NPD data breach of last year.
    Literally ALL SSN were comprimised along with other personal data.

    The govt really needs to come up with a new system.

    --
    pothead
    Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
    Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Mar 26 03:25:05 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3 @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were
    discovered.



    The agency�s inspector general found errors in the government�s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as
    individuals who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf
    of another person who is incapable of managing the benefits
    themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative
    payees who do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their
    selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individual�s case to
    receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system
    if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were
    properly
    recorded, based on the audit�s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in
    the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were
    undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and transferring
    representative payee information "may have resulted in applications
    showing as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiaries� lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7
    million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain
    circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides
    outside the United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to
    serve as payee," the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we
    should verify a person�s SSN (or employer identification number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does not
    state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual
    from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Mar 26 03:29:07 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424ce35f59b7cda989702@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrvbku$ap8p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-03-25 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were
    discovered.



    The agency?s inspector general found errors in the government?s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as
    individuals who receive retirement or disability payments on
    behalf of another person who is incapable of managing the
    benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there
    was no SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA
    will pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper application
    supporting their selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million
    in benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency
    did not keep paper applications supporting an individual?s case
    to receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update its
    system if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were
    properly recorded, based on the audit?s sample of 100
    beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees
    in the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were
    undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from
    the government when acting as representatives for their minor
    children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and
    transferring representative payee information "may have resulted
    in applications showing as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens
    and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiaries? lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7
    million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social
    Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in
    certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who
    resides outside the United States without a Social Security
    number (SSN) to serve as payee," the agency said. "Specifically,
    the Act states we should verify a person?s SSN (or employer
    identification number) in our investigation of the payee
    applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant
    must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an
    individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.

    BLAME TRUMP! You morons make me laugh.

    I didn't blame him...

    ...I just want to know what was done about it.

    About what? No elegable person is going to lose anything.
    But you are playing the system then look out.


    On the contrary, some already have.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to pothead on Wed Mar 26 03:40:52 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vrvdo3$cn5m$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25, Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote:
    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were
    discovered.



    The agency�s inspector general found errors in the
    government�s documentation for representative payees,
    otherwise known as individuals who receive retirement or
    disability payments on behalf of another person who is incapable
    of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there
    was no SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA
    will pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper application
    supporting their selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million
    in benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency
    did not keep paper applications supporting an individual�s
    case to receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update
    its system if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were
    properly recorded, based on the audit�s sample of 100
    beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees
    in the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were
    undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from
    the government when acting as representatives for their minor
    children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and
    transferring representative payee information "may have resulted
    in applications showing as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens
    and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiaries� lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately
    5.7 million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social
    Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in
    certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who
    resides outside the United States without a Social Security
    number (SSN) to serve as payee," the agency said. "Specifically,
    the Act states we should verify a person�s SSN (or employer
    identification number) in our investigation of the payee
    applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant
    must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an
    individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping failure.

    Fire the record keepers.

    Normally SSN are not reused when someone dies.
    I think we have like 60 years before we run out of new numbers.

    However, the biggest issue IMHO is the NPD data breach of last year. Literally ALL SSN were comprimised along with other personal data.

    The govt really needs to come up with a new system.


    NPD is a private company - not government.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pike@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 26 05:00:29 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    On 25 Mar 2025, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some news:vrvdo3$cn5m$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25, Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote:
    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were
    discovered.



    The agency�s inspector general found errors in the
    government�s documentation for representative payees,
    otherwise known as individuals who receive retirement or
    disability payments on behalf of another person who is incapable
    of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there
    was no SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA
    will pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper application
    supporting their selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million
    in benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency
    did not keep paper applications supporting an individual�s
    case to receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update
    its system if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were
    properly recorded, based on the audit�s sample of 100
    beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees
    in the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were
    undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from
    the government when acting as representatives for their minor
    children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and
    transferring representative payee information "may have resulted
    in applications showing as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens
    and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiaries� lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately
    5.7 million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social
    Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in
    certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who
    resides outside the United States without a Social Security
    number (SSN) to serve as payee," the agency said. "Specifically,
    the Act states we should verify a person�s SSN (or employer
    identification number) in our investigation of the payee
    applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant
    must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an
    individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping failure.

    Fire the record keepers.

    Normally SSN are not reused when someone dies.
    I think we have like 60 years before we run out of new numbers.

    However, the biggest issue IMHO is the NPD data breach of last year. Literally ALL SSN were comprimised along with other personal data.

    The govt really needs to come up with a new system.

    They got one, DNA IDs. The problem? Humans are fuckups by nature and
    nobody will be able to escape crime. Over half will have 3 felonies by
    the time they are 18.

    On the plus side, no more voter fraud.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 26 05:01:08 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    In article <vrvs2g$p0d2$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3 @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were
    discovered.



    The agencyâ??s inspector general found errors in the governmentâ??s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as
    individuals who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf
    of another person who is incapable of managing the benefits
    themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative
    payees who do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their
    selection," the inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individualâ??s case to
    receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system
    if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were
    properly
    recorded, based on the auditâ??s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in
    the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were
    undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and transferring
    representative payee information "may have resulted in applications
    showing as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiariesâ?? lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7
    million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain
    circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides
    outside the United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to
    serve as payee," the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we
    should verify a personâ??s SSN (or employer identification number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does not
    state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual
    from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    Yes they do. Your MSM lies.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Mar 26 14:55:31 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424d8c5c44ec91c3989729@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrvs2g$p0d2$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3
    @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits
    to individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were
    discovered.



    The agencyâ??s inspector general found errors in the
    governmentâ??s documentation for representative payees,
    otherwise known as individuals who receive retirement or
    disability payments on behalf of another person who is
    incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there
    was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate
    SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper
    application supporting their selection," the inspector general
    said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million
    in benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated
    as representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the
    agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individualâ??s case
    to receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update its
    system if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were
    properly
    recorded, based on the auditâ??s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through
    the representative payee system. 17 percent of representative
    payees in the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they
    were undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits
    from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor
    children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and
    transferring representative payee information "may have
    resulted in applications showing as terminated or not
    selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens
    and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiariesâ?? lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately
    5.7 million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in
    certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who
    resides outside the United States without a Social Security
    number (SSN) to serve as payee," the agency said.
    "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a personâ??s SSN
    (or employer identification number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does
    not state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve as a
    payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an
    individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-securit
    y- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping
    failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    Yes they do. Your MSM lies.

    If there's no record, how would they know?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 26 09:10:06 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    In article <vs14h3$1vk0v$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424d8c5c44ec91c3989729@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrvs2g$p0d2$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3
    @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits
    to individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),
    according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were
    discovered.



    The agencyâ??s inspector general found errors in the
    governmentâ??s documentation for representative payees,
    otherwise known as individuals who receive retirement or
    disability payments on behalf of another person who is
    incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there
    was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not
    followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate
    SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper
    application supporting their selection," the inspector general
    said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million
    in benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated
    as representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the
    agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individualâ??s case
    to receive benefits on behalf of another and did not update its
    system if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were
    properly
    recorded, based on the auditâ??s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through
    the representative payee system. 17 percent of representative
    payees in the sample did not have an SSN recorded because they
    were undocumented noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits
    from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor
    children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and
    transferring representative payee information "may have
    resulted in applications showing as terminated or not
    selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens
    and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiariesâ?? lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately
    5.7 million representative payees managing annual benefits for
    approximately 8 million beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in
    certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who
    resides outside the United States without a Social Security
    number (SSN) to serve as payee," the agency said.
    "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a personâ??s SSN
    (or employer identification number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act does
    not state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve as a
    payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an
    individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-securit
    y- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping
    failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    Yes they do. Your MSM lies.

    If there's no record, how would they know?

    Who said there was no record? Oh YOU did.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From orangedog@21:1/5 to sheepshagger on Wed Mar 26 16:31:35 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, aus.politics, sac.politics
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    In <vrv7cs$785j$1@dont-email.me> sheepshagger wrote:

    On 2025-03-25 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to >>>> a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were discovered.



    The agency?s inspector general found errors in the government?s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as individuals >>>> who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf of another person >>>> who is incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no SSN >>>> on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426 representative >>>> payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not followed its policy to >>>> retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will pay >>>> about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative payees who >>>> do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their selection," the >>>> inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did not >>>> keep paper applications supporting an individual?s case to receive
    benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system if their
    status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly
    recorded, based on the audit?s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in the >>>> sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were undocumented
    noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new Electronic >>>> Representative Payee System last year, and transferring representative >>>> payee information "may have resulted in applications showing as terminated >>>> or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many beneficiaries?
    lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7 million representative >>>> payees managing annual benefits for approximately 8 million beneficiaries. >>>> When appointing representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social >>>> Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain
    circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides outside the >>>> United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to serve as payee," >>>> the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a person?s >>>> SSN (or employer identification number) in our investigation of the payee >>>> applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant must have an >>>> SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual from >>>> serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.

    BLAME TRUMP! You morons make me laugh.

    I didn't blame him...

    ...I just want to know what was done about it.

    They checked the boxes in Joe Biden's garage and found the missing paperwork.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Mar 26 17:52:52 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424dc6ba5606d36c989738@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs14h3$1vk0v$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424d8c5c44ec91c3989729@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrvs2g$p0d2$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3
    @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
    news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in
    benefits to individuals who did not have a Social Security
    Number (SSN), according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues
    were discovered.



    The agencyâ??s inspector general found errors in the
    governmentâ??s documentation for representative payees,
    otherwise known as individuals who receive retirement or
    disability payments on behalf of another person who is
    incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where
    there was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had
    not followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate
    SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper
    application supporting their selection," the inspector
    general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1
    million in benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been
    terminated as representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the
    agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individualâ??s
    case to receive benefits on behalf of another and did not
    update its system if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were
    properly
    recorded, based on the auditâ??s sample of 100
    beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through
    the representative payee system. 17 percent of
    representative payees in the sample did not have an SSN
    recorded because they were undocumented noncitizens, the
    inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits
    from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor
    children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and
    transferring representative payee information "may have
    resulted in applications showing as terminated or not
    selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to
    noncitizens and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiariesâ?? lives," the SSA said. "We have
    approximately 5.7 million representative payees managing
    annual benefits for approximately 8 million beneficiaries.
    When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act
    (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in
    certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant
    who resides outside the United States without a Social
    Security number (SSN) to serve as payee," the agency said.
    "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a personâ??s
    SSN (or employer identification number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act
    does not state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve
    as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an
    individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-secu
    rit y- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping
    failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    Yes they do. Your MSM lies.

    If there's no record, how would they know?

    Who said there was no record? Oh YOU did.


    If they fired the record keepers, then there's no records.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 26 12:37:20 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    In article <vs1etj$2930f$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424dc6ba5606d36c989738@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs14h3$1vk0v$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424d8c5c44ec91c3989729@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrvs2g$p0d2$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3
    @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
    news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in
    benefits to individuals who did not have a Social Security
    Number (SSN), according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues
    were discovered.



    The agencyâ??s inspector general found errors in the
    governmentâ??s documentation for representative payees,
    otherwise known as individuals who receive retirement or
    disability payments on behalf of another person who is
    incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where
    there was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426
    representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had
    not followed its policy to retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate
    SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper
    application supporting their selection," the inspector
    general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1
    million in benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been
    terminated as representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the
    agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individualâ??s
    case to receive benefits on behalf of another and did not
    update its system if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were
    properly
    recorded, based on the auditâ??s sample of 100
    beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through
    the representative payee system. 17 percent of
    representative payees in the sample did not have an SSN
    recorded because they were undocumented noncitizens, the
    inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits
    from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor
    children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new
    Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and
    transferring representative payee information "may have
    resulted in applications showing as terminated or not
    selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to
    noncitizens and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiariesâ?? lives," the SSA said. "We have
    approximately 5.7 million representative payees managing
    annual benefits for approximately 8 million beneficiaries.
    When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act
    (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in
    certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant
    who resides outside the United States without a Social
    Security number (SSN) to serve as payee," the agency said.
    "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a personâ??s
    SSN (or employer identification number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the Act
    does not state that the applicant must have an SSN to serve
    as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an
    individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-secu
    rit y- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping
    failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    Yes they do. Your MSM lies.

    If there's no record, how would they know?

    Who said there was no record? Oh YOU did.


    If they fired the record keepers, then there's no records.

    Yes there are you moron. Just someone else keeping them.
    Stop being stupid.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Planet of the apes on Wed Mar 26 12:38:30 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    On 25/3/25 1:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN),

    So?

    SSDI amongst others is not earned. It is charity for people
    unable to work who do not pay FICA.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Thu Mar 27 02:36:18 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424df74a62463d56989759@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs1etj$2930f$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424dc6ba5606d36c989738@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs14h3$1vk0v$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424d8c5c44ec91c3989729@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrvs2g$p0d2$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3 @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
    news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in
    benefits to individuals who did not have a Social
    Security Number (SSN), according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the
    issues were discovered.



    The agencyâ??s inspector general found errors in the
    governmentâ??s documentation for representative payees,
    otherwise known as individuals who receive retirement or
    disability payments on behalf of another person who is
    incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where
    there was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to
    22,426 representative payees who "did not have an SSN,
    and SSA had not followed its policy to retain the paper
    application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we
    estimate SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper
    application supporting their selection," the inspector
    general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1
    million in benefits since 2004 to individuals who had
    been terminated as representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of
    this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because
    the agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individualâ??s
    case to receive benefits on behalf of another and did not
    update its system if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that
    were
    properly
    recorded, based on the auditâ??s sample of 100
    beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens
    through the representative payee system. 17 percent of
    representative payees in the sample did not have an SSN
    recorded because they were undocumented noncitizens, the
    inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive
    benefits from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor
    children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a
    new Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and
    transferring representative payee information "may have
    resulted in applications showing as terminated or not
    selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to
    noncitizens and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiariesâ?? lives," the SSA said. "We have
    approximately 5.7 million representative payees managing
    annual benefits for approximately 8 million
    beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act
    (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint,
    in certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or
    applicant who resides outside the United States without a
    Social Security number (SSN) to serve as payee," the
    agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we should
    verify a personâ??s SSN (or employer identification
    number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the
    Act does not state that the applicant must have an SSN to
    serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an
    individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-s
    ecu rit y- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping
    failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    Yes they do. Your MSM lies.

    If there's no record, how would they know?

    Who said there was no record? Oh YOU did.


    If they fired the record keepers, then there's no records.

    Yes there are you moron. Just someone else keeping them.
    Stop being stupid.


    Skeeter-bot can't show where they hired any record keepers.

    Nor does it make any sense to fire people doing the job and immediately
    replace them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 27 06:24:34 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    In article <vs2dj1$351vk$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424df74a62463d56989759@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs1etj$2930f$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424dc6ba5606d36c989738@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs14h3$1vk0v$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424d8c5c44ec91c3989729@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrvs2g$p0d2$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3 @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
    news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in
    benefits to individuals who did not have a Social
    Security Number (SSN), according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the
    issues were discovered.



    The agencyâ??s inspector general found errors in the
    governmentâ??s documentation for representative payees,
    otherwise known as individuals who receive retirement or
    disability payments on behalf of another person who is
    incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where
    there was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to
    22,426 representative payees who "did not have an SSN,
    and SSA had not followed its policy to retain the paper
    application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we
    estimate SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper
    application supporting their selection," the inspector
    general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1
    million in benefits since 2004 to individuals who had
    been terminated as representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of
    this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because
    the agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an individualâ??s
    case to receive benefits on behalf of another and did not
    update its system if their status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that
    were
    properly
    recorded, based on the auditâ??s sample of 100
    beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens
    through the representative payee system. 17 percent of
    representative payees in the sample did not have an SSN
    recorded because they were undocumented noncitizens, the
    inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive
    benefits from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their minor
    children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a
    new Electronic Representative Payee System last year, and
    transferring representative payee information "may have
    resulted in applications showing as terminated or not
    selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to
    noncitizens and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiariesâ?? lives," the SSA said. "We have
    approximately 5.7 million representative payees managing
    annual benefits for approximately 8 million
    beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security Act
    (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint,
    in certain circumstances, an undocumented alien, or
    applicant who resides outside the United States without a
    Social Security number (SSN) to serve as payee," the
    agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we should
    verify a personâ??s SSN (or employer identification
    number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the
    Act does not state that the applicant must have an SSN to
    serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an
    individual from serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-s
    ecu rit y- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a recordkeeping
    failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    Yes they do. Your MSM lies.

    If there's no record, how would they know?

    Who said there was no record? Oh YOU did.


    If they fired the record keepers, then there's no records.

    Yes there are you moron. Just someone else keeping them.
    Stop being stupid.


    Skeeter-bot can't show where they hired any record keepers.

    What are you even trying to say? I have you in meltdown
    mode.

    Nor does it make any sense to fire people doing the job and immediately replace them.

    Sure it does. If they were incompetent.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Thu Mar 27 15:12:37 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424ef171a86aa14a98979e@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs2dj1$351vk$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424df74a62463d56989759@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs1etj$2930f$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424dc6ba5606d36c989738@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs14h3$1vk0v$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424d8c5c44ec91c3989729@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrvs2g$p0d2$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3 @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
    news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in
    benefits to individuals who did not have a Social
    Security Number (SSN), according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the
    issues were discovered.



    The agencyâ??s inspector general found errors in the
    governmentâ??s documentation for representative
    payees, otherwise known as individuals who receive
    retirement or disability payments on behalf of another
    person who is incapable of managing the benefits
    themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases
    where there was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to
    22,426 representative payees who "did not have an SSN,
    and SSA had not followed its policy to retain the
    paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we
    estimate SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper
    application supporting their selection," the inspector
    general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid
    $853.1 million in benefits since 2004 to individuals
    who had been terminated as representative payees by
    the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of
    this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because
    the agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an
    individualâ??s case to receive benefits on behalf of
    another and did not update its system if their status
    was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs
    that were
    properly
    recorded, based on the auditâ??s sample of 100
    beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens
    through the representative payee system. 17 percent of
    representative payees in the sample did not have an
    SSN recorded because they were undocumented
    noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive
    benefits from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their
    minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to
    a new Electronic Representative Payee System last
    year, and transferring representative payee
    information "may have resulted in applications showing
    as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to
    noncitizens and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiariesâ?? lives," the SSA said. "We have
    approximately 5.7 million representative payees
    managing annual benefits for approximately 8 million
    beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security
    Act (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to
    appoint, in certain circumstances, an undocumented
    alien, or applicant who resides outside the United
    States without a Social Security number (SSN) to serve
    as payee," the agency said. "Specifically, the Act
    states we should verify a personâ??s SSN (or employer
    identification number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the
    Act does not state that the applicant must have an SSN
    to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing
    an individual from serving as payee," the agency
    added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-socia
    l-s ecu rit y- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a
    recordkeeping failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    Yes they do. Your MSM lies.

    If there's no record, how would they know?

    Who said there was no record? Oh YOU did.


    If they fired the record keepers, then there's no records.

    Yes there are you moron. Just someone else keeping them.
    Stop being stupid.


    Skeeter-bot can't show where they hired any record keepers.

    What are you even trying to say? I have you in meltdown
    mode.

    That's the limitation of the Skeeter-bot - can't parse plain English.


    Nor does it make any sense to fire people doing the job and
    immediately replace them.

    Sure it does. If they were incompetent.

    Nobody said the fired record keepers were incompetent.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 27 09:24:52 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    In article <vs3pt4$gi14$7@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424ef171a86aa14a98979e@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs2dj1$351vk$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424df74a62463d56989759@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs1etj$2930f$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424dc6ba5606d36c989738@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs14h3$1vk0v$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424d8c5c44ec91c3989729@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrvs2g$p0d2$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.424cc8a3a61f2bfd9896e3 @usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vrv466$3jei$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
    news:vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in
    benefits to individuals who did not have a Social
    Security Number (SSN), according to a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the
    issues were discovered.



    The agencyâ??s inspector general found errors in the
    governmentâ??s documentation for representative
    payees, otherwise known as individuals who receive
    retirement or disability payments on behalf of another
    person who is incapable of managing the benefits
    themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases
    where there was
    no
    SSN on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to
    22,426 representative payees who "did not have an SSN,
    and SSA had not followed its policy to retain the
    paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we
    estimate SSA
    will
    pay about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to
    representative payees who do not have an SSN or paper
    application supporting their selection," the inspector
    general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid
    $853.1 million in benefits since 2004 to individuals
    who had been terminated as representative payees by
    the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of
    this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because
    the agency
    did
    not keep paper applications supporting an
    individualâ??s case to receive benefits on behalf of
    another and did not update its system if their status
    was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs
    that were
    properly
    recorded, based on the auditâ??s sample of 100
    beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens
    through the representative payee system. 17 percent of
    representative payees in the sample did not have an
    SSN recorded because they were undocumented
    noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive
    benefits from
    the
    government when acting as representatives for their
    minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to
    a new Electronic Representative Payee System last
    year, and transferring representative payee
    information "may have resulted in applications showing
    as terminated or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to
    noncitizens and persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many
    beneficiariesâ?? lives," the SSA said. "We have
    approximately 5.7 million representative payees
    managing annual benefits for approximately 8 million
    beneficiaries. When appointing
    representative
    payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social Security
    Act (the
    Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to
    appoint, in certain circumstances, an undocumented
    alien, or applicant who resides outside the United
    States without a Social Security number (SSN) to serve
    as payee," the agency said. "Specifically, the Act
    states we should verify a personâ??s SSN (or employer
    identification number)
    in
    our investigation of the payee applicant. However, the
    Act does not state that the applicant must have an SSN
    to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing
    an individual from serving as payee," the agency
    added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-socia
    l-s ecu rit y- benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.


    So the issue is not improper payments, it's a
    recordkeeping failure.

    Fire the record keepers.


    They already have - and now nobody knows what's going on.

    Yes they do. Your MSM lies.

    If there's no record, how would they know?

    Who said there was no record? Oh YOU did.


    If they fired the record keepers, then there's no records.

    Yes there are you moron. Just someone else keeping them.
    Stop being stupid.


    Skeeter-bot can't show where they hired any record keepers.

    What are you even trying to say? I have you in meltdown
    mode.

    That's the limitation of the Skeeter-bot - can't parse plain English.

    So you don't even know what you were saying.


    Nor does it make any sense to fire people doing the job and
    immediately replace them.

    Sure it does. If they were incompetent.

    Nobody said the fired record keepers were incompetent.

    and no one said otherwise. That ends this.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Thu Mar 27 22:35:30 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424f1bac443de33b9897ac@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs3pt4$gi14$7@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...


    Nobody said the fired record keepers were incompetent.

    and no one said otherwise.

    Rank stupidity!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 27 16:53:15 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    In article <vs4jri$1910v$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.424f1bac443de33b9897ac@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <vs3pt4$gi14$7@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...


    Nobody said the fired record keepers were incompetent.

    and no one said otherwise.

    Rank stupidity!

    ?

    Get back to me when you can carry on a conversation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Planet of the apes on Thu Mar 27 16:21:47 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to
    a new audit.

    The agency’s inspector general found errors in the government’s documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as individuals
    who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf of another person
    who is incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no SSN
    on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426 representative payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not followed its policy to retain the paper application."
    "Over the last decade" for an article published in February of 2017
    means 2007 - 2016 inclusive.

    So how much was the total paid out?

    Over $79 TRILLION.

    <https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1FSE6>

    So that $1 billion that sounds so terrible...

    ...represents ONE THOUSANDTHS of ONE PERCENT.

    0.00126447348% to be precise.

    It's like someone being paid $79,000 a year losing a dollar.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Thu Mar 27 16:23:01 2025
    XPost: alt.sodomites.barack-obama, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns XPost: or.politics

    On 2025-03-25 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <vrvbku$ap8p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-03-25 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <vrujev$3kg8d$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-03-25 01:43, Planet of the apes wrote:
    The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to
    individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to >>>>> a new audit.

    A story from February 22, 2017...

    ...so it was under the Obama administration that the issues were discovered.



    The agency?s inspector general found errors in the government?s
    documentation for representative payees, otherwise known as individuals >>>>> who receive retirement or disability payments on behalf of another person >>>>> who is incapable of managing the benefits themselves.

    The audit released Friday found thousands of cases where there was no SSN >>>>> on file.

    Over the last decade, the agency paid $1 billion to 22,426 representative >>>>> payees who "did not have an SSN, and SSA had not followed its policy to >>>>> retain the paper application."

    "Furthermore, unless it takes corrective action, we estimate SSA will pay >>>>> about $182.5 million in benefits, annually, to representative payees who >>>>> do not have an SSN or paper application supporting their selection," the >>>>> inspector general said.

    The inspector general also found the agency paid $853.1 million in
    benefits since 2004 to individuals who had been terminated as
    representative payees by the agency.

    And did Trump's administration DO anything about any of this?

    The inspector general said the errors occurred because the agency did not >>>>> keep paper applications supporting an individual?s case to receive
    benefits on behalf of another and did not update its system if their >>>>> status was terminated.

    Only six percent of representative payees had SSNs that were properly >>>>> recorded, based on the audit?s sample of 100 beneficiaries.

    Government benefits are also going to illegal aliens through the
    representative payee system. 17 percent of representative payees in the >>>>> sample did not have an SSN recorded because they were undocumented
    noncitizens, the inspector general said.

    Illegal aliens without SSNs are allowed to receive benefits from the >>>>> government when acting as representatives for their minor children.

    In response to the audit, the SSA said it switched to a new Electronic >>>>> Representative Payee System last year, and transferring representative >>>>> payee information "may have resulted in applications showing as terminated
    or not selected."

    The government defended the issuance of benefits to noncitizens and
    persons without an SSN.

    "Representative payees play a significant role in many beneficiaries? >>>>> lives," the SSA said. "We have approximately 5.7 million representative >>>>> payees managing annual benefits for approximately 8 million beneficiaries.
    When appointing representative payees, we adhere to guidance in the Social
    Security Act (the Act)."

    "Specific to this audit, the Act permits us to appoint, in certain
    circumstances, an undocumented alien, or applicant who resides outside the
    United States without a Social Security number (SSN) to serve as payee," >>>>> the agency said. "Specifically, the Act states we should verify a person?s
    SSN (or employer identification number) in our investigation of the payee >>>>> applicant. However, the Act does not state that the applicant must have an
    SSN to serve as a payee."

    The "absence of an SSN is not a criterion preventing an individual from >>>>> serving as payee," the agency added.

    Published under: Federal Bureaucracy , Social Security

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid-1-billion-social-security-
    benefits-individuals-without-ssn/

    At least you have the integrity to list your source.

    BLAME TRUMP! You morons make me laugh.

    I didn't blame him...

    ...I just want to know what was done about it.

    About what? No elegable person is going to lose anything.
    But you are playing the system then look out.

    You mean the 0.00126447348% loss this represents?

    You realize that that was $1 billion over a ten year period, right?

    Over that same period, SS payouts came to $79,084.3 billion.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)