• Trump Enacting Anti-Election-Fraud Rules ... Prove You're USA and Vote

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 26 01:59:45 2025
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14537019/Trump-combat-election-fraud-sweeping-executive-order.html

    Trump makes ultimate move to combat election 'fraud' with
    sweeping executive order that could cost 21.3 million people
    the right to vote

    The order includes requiring 'documentary proof' of US
    citizenship to register to vote in federal elections and
    demanding that all ballots be received by Election Day,
    include putting a citizenship question on the federal
    voting form.

    It would mean voters would have to provide forms of ID -
    drivers' license, birth certificate, passport - to be able
    to vote and the federal government would be able to work
    with state and local officials to verify that information.

    The order also eliminates 'postmarked by' deadlines on mail
    voting, a DOGE review of voter registration databases,
    limiting the use of electronic ballots and plans to withhold
    federal assistance to non-compliant states.

    . . .

    Distrust in voting is doom for any flavor of democracy.

    Such trust is rather LOW these days - NOT good.

    All the Wanda's with arm-fulls of mystery ballots,
    boxes of ballots magically showing-up days/weeks
    after, counters who don't want to be watched ...
    sorry, too many ways to cheat these days even at
    the highest levels.

    When the USA was young, growing, strong, we could
    kinda shrug-off a little cheating ... but the whole
    tone of things is different now.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to c186282@nnada.net on Wed Mar 26 22:06:51 2025
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    On 2025-03-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14537019/Trump-combat-election-fraud-sweeping-executive-order.html

    Trump makes ultimate move to combat election 'fraud' with
    sweeping executive order that could cost 21 TS018861824 .3 million people
    the right to vote

    The order includes requiring 'documentary proof' of US
    citizenship to register to vote in federal elections and
    demanding that all ballots be received by Election Day,
    include putting a citizenship question on the federal
    voting form.

    It would mean voters would have to provide forms of ID -
    drivers' license, birth certificate, passport - to be able
    to vote and the federal government would be able to work
    with state and local officials to verify that information.

    The order also eliminates 'postmarked by' deadlines on mail
    voting, a DOGE review of voter registration databases,
    limiting the use of electronic ballots and plans to withhold
    federal assistance to non-compliant states.

    . . .

    Distrust in voting is doom for any flavor of democracy.

    Such trust is rather LOW these days - NOT good.

    All the Wanda's with arm-fulls of mystery ballots,
    boxes of ballots magically showing-up days/weeks
    after, counters who don't want to be watched ...
    sorry, too many ways to cheat these days even at
    the highest levels.

    When the USA was young, growing, strong, we could
    kinda shrug-off a little cheating ... but the whole
    tone of things is different now.

    Good!
    We are one of the few countries that do not have voter checks and balances
    in place.
    When I go to vote, all they do is ask my address, look it up on a tablet and have me sign it.
    Last year I purposely misspelled my name, and borked my signature and not a peep
    from the election people.

    That is just wrong.

    I need a freaking ID to buy cold syrup.




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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to pothead on Wed Mar 26 18:21:47 2025
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    On 26/3/25 15:06, pothead wrote:

    Trump makes ultimate move to combat election 'fraud' with
    sweeping executive order that could cost 21 TS018861824 .3 million people
    the right to vote

    Under the authority of what in the US Code?

    The order includes requiring 'documentary proof' of US
    citizenship to register to vote in federal elections and
    demanding that all ballots be received by Election Day,
    include putting a citizenship question on the federal
    voting form.

    The Constitution leaves voting mechanics to the state.

    It would mean voters would have to provide forms of ID -
    drivers' license, birth certificate, passport - to be able
    to vote and the federal government would be able to work
    with state and local officials to verify that information.

    California is competent. Birth certificates etc are online.
    Citizenship is verified. The county Registrar of Voters is a few
    miles from vital statistics.

    The order also eliminates 'postmarked by' deadlines on mail
    voting, a DOGE review of voter registration databases,
    limiting the use of electronic ballots and plans to withhold
    federal assistance to non-compliant states.

    Money allocated by Congress to states cannot be impounded in the
    Ninth Judicial District.

    You are disenfranchising voters by closing polling places early.

    Distrust in voting is doom for any flavor of democracy.

    Such trust is rather LOW these days - NOT good.

    Because minorities are allowed to vote despite your bigotry.

    We are one of the few countries that do not have voter checks and balances
    in place.

    I would not mind other countries's gun laws. How many school
    children are murderred in France

    Last year I purposely misspelled my name, and borked my signature and not a peep
    from the election people.

    Vote by mail is more secure because the Registrar now exactly who
    was sent each ballot and verifies the signature on the outer
    envelope.

    I need a freaking ID to buy cold syrup.

    Why?

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to pothead on Wed Mar 26 22:38:31 2025
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    On 3/26/25 6:06 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-03-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14537019/Trump-combat-election-fraud-sweeping-executive-order.html

    Trump makes ultimate move to combat election 'fraud' with
    sweeping executive order that could cost 21 TS018861824 .3 million people
    the right to vote

    The order includes requiring 'documentary proof' of US
    citizenship to register to vote in federal elections and
    demanding that all ballots be received by Election Day,
    include putting a citizenship question on the federal
    voting form.

    It would mean voters would have to provide forms of ID -
    drivers' license, birth certificate, passport - to be able
    to vote and the federal government would be able to work
    with state and local officials to verify that information.

    The order also eliminates 'postmarked by' deadlines on mail
    voting, a DOGE review of voter registration databases,
    limiting the use of electronic ballots and plans to withhold
    federal assistance to non-compliant states.

    . . .

    Distrust in voting is doom for any flavor of democracy.

    Such trust is rather LOW these days - NOT good.

    All the Wanda's with arm-fulls of mystery ballots,
    boxes of ballots magically showing-up days/weeks
    after, counters who don't want to be watched ...
    sorry, too many ways to cheat these days even at
    the highest levels.

    When the USA was young, growing, strong, we could
    kinda shrug-off a little cheating ... but the whole
    tone of things is different now.

    Good!
    We are one of the few countries that do not have voter checks and balances
    in place.
    When I go to vote, all they do is ask my address, look it up on a tablet and have me sign it.
    Last year I purposely misspelled my name, and borked my signature and not a peep
    from the election people.

    That is just wrong.

    I need a freaking ID to buy cold syrup.


    They just made it TOO damned easy to cheat ... and
    with a clear partisan TILT to it all.

    My state, they DO want to see an official gold-star
    ID of some kind. These days relatively cheap 'AI' could
    instantly analyze a signature against known instances
    and come up with a go/no-go figure - also check the
    face -vs- the alleged ID. Now since medical conditions
    and certain prescriptions CAN make sigs go shakey, the
    option for a "provisional" - "let us check it out better
    tomorrow" - ballot should be offered.

    The Wanda's kinda ruined it for drop-box balloting
    fer-sure. No more of that. Either officially mail
    a ballot or SHOW UP at a polling place. The old 50s
    lefty excuse about illiterate 'black' people never
    having good ID is just BULLSHIT these days. Everyone
    is heavily documented in several systems. If no ID it
    likely means you're HIDING something. Fine, sort of,
    but don't try to vote.

    I'd LIKE an 'Honesty'-dependent country, but that's
    just NOT gonna work these days (if ever). Seems just
    a Human Nature thing ... if there's a System then
    people immediately try to game it. 'Systems' are
    abstract, not like lying to your neighbor or buds.

    Do all these checks make voting less 'secret' ? Yep,
    unfortunately. Still, better that then a wide open
    cheatFest nobody will believe afterwards. Those
    'enlightned' leftysocialist EU countries our libs
    always dote on, NONE of them are as lax as the USA
    when it comes to voting.

    SOME of the 'secret' can be re-captured by checking
    the IDs, but, all good, handing an anonymous ballot
    (and they SHOULD be watermarked paper IMHO) to the
    voter afterwards. You just don't GET that ballot
    until ...

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