• Hegseth's American flag pocket square - nothing to sneeze at

    From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 7 12:07:46 2025
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    One small part of Pete Hegseth's wardrobe is a big tell
    Eugene R. Fidell
    Salon Opinion
    Sun, April 6, 2025 at 4:45 AM CDT
    4 min read

    It's anybody's guess how long Pete Hegseth will be Secretary of
    Defense, given the wont-go-away controversy over his use of Signal to
    share details of an impending attack on Houthi forces in Yemen. Maybe
    he'll weather that storm. On the chance that he does, I have a bone to
    pick with him - less cosmic, but something that speaks volumes about
    his probity and fitness for office.

    It's about the flag, "Old Glory."

    Americans, most of us anyway, cherish the flag and are proud to display
    it (preferably the right way rather than inverted, as the U.S. Code
    permits, "as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger
    to life or property"). President Nixon seems to have been the first
    holder of that office to make a practice of wearing the flag as a lapel
    pin. Indeed, he required White House staffers to do so as well. The
    practice caught on, and now it's nearly de rigueur for politicians to
    wear it on their attire. In fact, it's grown so ubiquitous that it has
    become an empty gesture, the sartorial equivalent of saying "thank you
    for your service" to anyone who now serves or ever did. Overused, it
    tends to lose meaning.

    Enter Pete Hegseth, who has mastered the "full MAGA look," according to
    New York Times fashion and style reporter Jacob Gallagher. Mr. Hegseth
    is clearly into displays, as witness his attention-grabbing tattoos.
    But his tattoos are his problem - notable now mostly for the fact that
    they would very likely prevent him from entering the armed forces if he
    today sought to enlist. In any case, they are hidden from view, except
    when he or others circulate photos of them.

    More disquieting, given his role as top civilian official in the
    Defense Department, is the poor example he sets when displaying the
    flag. Video taken during his round of pre-confirmation Senate
    interviews shows him ostentatiously opening his suit jacket to display
    a garish American-flag lining. Who does this man's wardrobe? Geez.

    But at least a suit lining is not on perpetual display. So let's talk
    about his American-flag pocket square. It seems to be a permanent part
    of his day-to-day dress-for-political-success attire. Who even knew
    there was such a thing? A quick internet search reveals that flag-motif
    pocket squares are readily available from a variety of sources.

    So what's wrong? What's wrong is not merely that section 8(d) of the
    flag code forbids use of the flag as wearing apparel, as a letter to
    the editor of the Washington Times pointed out, but, more specifically,
    that a pocket square is a handerkerchief. And a handkerchief's purpose,
    other than as a fashion statement, is to keep things tidy when blowing
    one's nose. As a result, Mr. Hegseth's pocket square is nothing to
    sneeze at. Indeed, using the flag as a handkerchief has at least twice
    led to courts-martial. A hospitalman at the former Naval Hospital in
    Chelsea, Mass., was charged with, among other things, desecrating the
    flag by blowing his nose on one. His intrepid Yale-educated defense
    counsel - having precious little to work with -- got the flag charge
    dismissed, arguing that "but for the accident of physiognomy, the
    accused's deed would have been protected free speech" (or - as we say
    in courts-martial - "words to that effect").

    Years later, in United States v. Wilson, the Army Court of Military
    Review wrote:

    The appellant, a military policeman (MP), while preparing for a flag-raising detail, complained to his fellow MPs that the Army and the
    United States "sucked." Another MP told him that he should move to a
    communist country if he didn't like it. The appellant replied, "[t]his
    is what I think," and blew his nose on the American flag, leaving on
    the flag "a small wet circle." After another brief exchange of words,
    the appellant participated without further incident in the flag-raising
    detail. For his action the appellant was charged with dereliction of
    duty in that he "willfully failed to ensure that the United States flag
    was treated with proper respect by blowing his nose on the flag when it
    was his duty as a military policeman on flag call to safeguard and
    protect the flag."

    Rejecting a First Amendment challenge, the court upheld Private
    Wilson's conviction and sentence to four months in the stockade, a
    bad-conduct discharge, and other penalties.

    If Pete Hegseth wants to show how patriotic he is, he might consider
    displaying a different pocket square. If he wants to set a proper
    example, he must do so.

    ###

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Schadenfreude on Mon Apr 7 16:45:00 2025
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    On 2025-04-07 17:54:24 +0000, Klaus Schadenfreude said:

    [Default] super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    One small part of Pete Hegseth's wardrobe is a big tell
    Eugene R. Fidell
    Salon Opinion
    Sun, April 6, 2025 at 4:45 AM CDT
    4 min read

    HEADLINE: LEFTISTS LOSING THEIR SHIT OVER HANDKERCHIEF.

    LOL

    Here's another headline: Rightists Don't Lose Their Shit Over
    Signalgate Which Is 10 Times Worse Than Hillary's Emails.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Schadenfreude on Mon Apr 7 20:54:16 2025
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 2025-04-07 22:38:36 +0000, Klaus Schadenfreude said:

    [Default] super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2025-04-07 17:54:24 +0000, Klaus Schadenfreude said:

    [Default] super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    One small part of Pete Hegseth's wardrobe is a big tell
    Eugene R. Fidell
    Salon Opinion
    Sun, April 6, 2025 at 4:45 AM CDT
    4 min read

    HEADLINE: LEFTISTS LOSING THEIR SHIT OVER HANDKERCHIEF.

    LOL


    ? Aren't we talking about the drunken Hegseth's fuck-ups? So

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    Here's another headline: Rightists Don't Lose Their Shit Over
    Signalgate Which Is 10 Times Worse Than Hillary's Emails.

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  • From Peter Kent Navarro@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 04:03:38 2025
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    One small part of Pete Hegseth's wardrobe is a big tell
    Eugene R. Fidell
    Salon Opinion
    Sun, April 6, 2025 at 4:45 AM CDT
    4 min read

    It's anybody's guess how long Pete Hegseth will be Secretary of
    Defense, given the wont-go-away controversy over his use of Signal to
    share details of an impending attack on Houthi forces in Yemen. Maybe
    he'll weather that storm. On the chance that he does, I have a bone to
    pick with him - less cosmic, but something that speaks volumes about
    his probity and fitness for office.

    It's about the flag, "Old Glory."

    Americans, most of us anyway, cherish the flag and are proud to display
    it (preferably the right way rather than inverted, as the U.S. Code
    permits, "as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger
    to life or property"). President Nixon seems to have been the first
    holder of that office to make a practice of wearing the flag as a lapel
    pin. Indeed, he required White House staffers to do so as well. The
    practice caught on, and now it's nearly de rigueur for politicians to
    wear it on their attire. In fact, it's grown so ubiquitous that it has
    become an empty gesture, the sartorial equivalent of saying "thank you
    for your service" to anyone who now serves or ever did. Overused, it
    tends to lose meaning.

    Enter Pete Hegseth, who has mastered the "full MAGA look," according to
    New York Times fashion and style reporter Jacob Gallagher. Mr. Hegseth
    is clearly into displays, as witness his attention-grabbing tattoos.
    But his tattoos are his problem - notable now mostly for the fact that
    they would very likely prevent him from entering the armed forces if he
    today sought to enlist. In any case, they are hidden from view, except
    when he or others circulate photos of them.

    More disquieting, given his role as top civilian official in the
    Defense Department, is the poor example he sets when displaying the
    flag. Video taken during his round of pre-confirmation Senate
    interviews shows him ostentatiously opening his suit jacket to display
    a garish American-flag lining. Who does this man's wardrobe? Geez.

    But at least a suit lining is not on perpetual display. So let's talk
    about his American-flag pocket square. It seems to be a permanent part
    of his day-to-day dress-for-political-success attire. Who even knew
    there was such a thing? A quick internet search reveals that flag-motif >pocket squares are readily available from a variety of sources.

    So what's wrong? What's wrong is not merely that section 8(d) of the
    flag code forbids use of the flag as wearing apparel, as a letter to
    the editor of the Washington Times pointed out, but, more specifically,
    that a pocket square is a handerkerchief. And a handkerchief's purpose,
    other than as a fashion statement, is to keep things tidy when blowing
    one's nose. As a result, Mr. Hegseth's pocket square is nothing to
    sneeze at. Indeed, using the flag as a handkerchief has at least twice
    led to courts-martial. A hospitalman at the former Naval Hospital in
    Chelsea, Mass., was charged with, among other things, desecrating the
    flag by blowing his nose on one. His intrepid Yale-educated defense
    counsel - having precious little to work with -- got the flag charge >dismissed, arguing that "but for the accident of physiognomy, the
    accused's deed would have been protected free speech" (or - as we say
    in courts-martial - "words to that effect").

    Years later, in United States v. Wilson, the Army Court of Military
    Review wrote:

    The appellant, a military policeman (MP), while preparing for a
    flag-raising detail, complained to his fellow MPs that the Army and the >United States "sucked." Another MP told him that he should move to a >communist country if he didn't like it. The appellant replied, "[t]his
    is what I think," and blew his nose on the American flag, leaving on
    the flag "a small wet circle." After another brief exchange of words,
    the appellant participated without further incident in the flag-raising >detail. For his action the appellant was charged with dereliction of
    duty in that he "willfully failed to ensure that the United States flag
    was treated with proper respect by blowing his nose on the flag when it
    was his duty as a military policeman on flag call to safeguard and
    protect the flag."

    Rejecting a First Amendment challenge, the court upheld Private
    Wilson's conviction and sentence to four months in the stockade, a >bad-conduct discharge, and other penalties.

    If Pete Hegseth wants to show how patriotic he is, he might consider >displaying a different pocket square. If he wants to set a proper
    example, he must do so.

    ###



    Better complain to Trump. Tell him to lock Hegseth up.

    It's the only way to fix this horrible scandal.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Peter Kent Navarro on Tue Apr 8 05:35:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    On 2025-04-08 04:03:38 +0000, Peter Kent Navarro said:


    One small part of Pete Hegseth's wardrobe is a big tell
    Eugene R. Fidell
    Salon Opinion
    Sun, April 6, 2025 at 4:45 AM CDT
    4 min read

    It's anybody's guess how long Pete Hegseth will be Secretary of
    Defense, given the wont-go-away controversy over his use of Signal to
    share details of an impending attack on Houthi forces in Yemen. Maybe
    he'll weather that storm. On the chance that he does, I have a bone to
    pick with him - less cosmic, but something that speaks volumes about
    his probity and fitness for office.

    It's about the flag, "Old Glory."

    Americans, most of us anyway, cherish the flag and are proud to display
    it (preferably the right way rather than inverted, as the U.S. Code
    permits, "as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger
    to life or property"). President Nixon seems to have been the first
    holder of that office to make a practice of wearing the flag as a lapel
    pin. Indeed, he required White House staffers to do so as well. The
    practice caught on, and now it's nearly de rigueur for politicians to
    wear it on their attire. In fact, it's grown so ubiquitous that it has
    become an empty gesture, the sartorial equivalent of saying "thank you
    for your service" to anyone who now serves or ever did. Overused, it
    tends to lose meaning.

    Enter Pete Hegseth, who has mastered the "full MAGA look," according to
    New York Times fashion and style reporter Jacob Gallagher. Mr. Hegseth
    is clearly into displays, as witness his attention-grabbing tattoos.
    But his tattoos are his problem - notable now mostly for the fact that
    they would very likely prevent him from entering the armed forces if he
    today sought to enlist. In any case, they are hidden from view, except
    when he or others circulate photos of them.

    More disquieting, given his role as top civilian official in the
    Defense Department, is the poor example he sets when displaying the
    flag. Video taken during his round of pre-confirmation Senate
    interviews shows him ostentatiously opening his suit jacket to display
    a garish American-flag lining. Who does this man's wardrobe? Geez.

    But at least a suit lining is not on perpetual display. So let's talk
    about his American-flag pocket square. It seems to be a permanent part
    of his day-to-day dress-for-political-success attire. Who even knew
    there was such a thing? A quick internet search reveals that flag-motif
    pocket squares are readily available from a variety of sources.

    So what's wrong? What's wrong is not merely that section 8(d) of the
    flag code forbids use of the flag as wearing apparel, as a letter to
    the editor of the Washington Times pointed out, but, more specifically,
    that a pocket square is a handerkerchief. And a handkerchief's purpose,
    other than as a fashion statement, is to keep things tidy when blowing
    one's nose. As a result, Mr. Hegseth's pocket square is nothing to
    sneeze at. Indeed, using the flag as a handkerchief has at least twice
    led to courts-martial. A hospitalman at the former Naval Hospital in
    Chelsea, Mass., was charged with, among other things, desecrating the
    flag by blowing his nose on one. His intrepid Yale-educated defense
    counsel - having precious little to work with -- got the flag charge
    dismissed, arguing that "but for the accident of physiognomy, the
    accused's deed would have been protected free speech" (or - as we say
    in courts-martial - "words to that effect").

    Years later, in United States v. Wilson, the Army Court of Military
    Review wrote:

    The appellant, a military policeman (MP), while preparing for a
    flag-raising detail, complained to his fellow MPs that the Army and the
    United States "sucked." Another MP told him that he should move to a
    communist country if he didn't like it. The appellant replied, "[t]his
    is what I think," and blew his nose on the American flag, leaving on
    the flag "a small wet circle." After another brief exchange of words,
    the appellant participated without further incident in the flag-raising
    detail. For his action the appellant was charged with dereliction of
    duty in that he "willfully failed to ensure that the United States flag
    was treated with proper respect by blowing his nose on the flag when it
    was his duty as a military policeman on flag call to safeguard and
    protect the flag."

    Rejecting a First Amendment challenge, the court upheld Private
    Wilson's conviction and sentence to four months in the stockade, a
    bad-conduct discharge, and other penalties.

    If Pete Hegseth wants to show how patriotic he is, he might consider
    displaying a different pocket square. If he wants to set a proper
    example, he must do so.

    ###



    Better complain to Trump. Tell him to lock Hegseth up.

    It's the only way to fix this horrible scandal.

    If he hasn't jailed him by now over Signalgate (totally justified) he
    won't jail him over this.

    And since Hegseth or nobody else paid a price it's probably still going on.

    Sleep soundly.

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 07:09:34 2025
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    In article <vt2u4t$22205$1@dont-email.me>,
    super70s@super70s.invalid says...

    On 2025-04-08 04:03:38 +0000, Peter Kent Navarro said:


    One small part of Pete Hegseth's wardrobe is a big tell
    Eugene R. Fidell
    Salon Opinion
    Sun, April 6, 2025 at 4:45 AM CDT
    4 min read

    It's anybody's guess how long Pete Hegseth will be Secretary of
    Defense, given the wont-go-away controversy over his use of Signal to
    share details of an impending attack on Houthi forces in Yemen. Maybe
    he'll weather that storm. On the chance that he does, I have a bone to
    pick with him - less cosmic, but something that speaks volumes about
    his probity and fitness for office.

    It's about the flag, "Old Glory."

    Americans, most of us anyway, cherish the flag and are proud to display
    it (preferably the right way rather than inverted, as the U.S. Code
    permits, "as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger
    to life or property"). President Nixon seems to have been the first
    holder of that office to make a practice of wearing the flag as a lapel
    pin. Indeed, he required White House staffers to do so as well. The
    practice caught on, and now it's nearly de rigueur for politicians to
    wear it on their attire. In fact, it's grown so ubiquitous that it has
    become an empty gesture, the sartorial equivalent of saying "thank you
    for your service" to anyone who now serves or ever did. Overused, it
    tends to lose meaning.

    Enter Pete Hegseth, who has mastered the "full MAGA look," according to
    New York Times fashion and style reporter Jacob Gallagher. Mr. Hegseth
    is clearly into displays, as witness his attention-grabbing tattoos.
    But his tattoos are his problem - notable now mostly for the fact that
    they would very likely prevent him from entering the armed forces if he
    today sought to enlist. In any case, they are hidden from view, except
    when he or others circulate photos of them.

    More disquieting, given his role as top civilian official in the
    Defense Department, is the poor example he sets when displaying the
    flag. Video taken during his round of pre-confirmation Senate
    interviews shows him ostentatiously opening his suit jacket to display
    a garish American-flag lining. Who does this man's wardrobe? Geez.

    But at least a suit lining is not on perpetual display. So let's talk
    about his American-flag pocket square. It seems to be a permanent part
    of his day-to-day dress-for-political-success attire. Who even knew
    there was such a thing? A quick internet search reveals that flag-motif
    pocket squares are readily available from a variety of sources.

    So what's wrong? What's wrong is not merely that section 8(d) of the
    flag code forbids use of the flag as wearing apparel, as a letter to
    the editor of the Washington Times pointed out, but, more specifically,
    that a pocket square is a handerkerchief. And a handkerchief's purpose,
    other than as a fashion statement, is to keep things tidy when blowing
    one's nose. As a result, Mr. Hegseth's pocket square is nothing to
    sneeze at. Indeed, using the flag as a handkerchief has at least twice
    led to courts-martial. A hospitalman at the former Naval Hospital in
    Chelsea, Mass., was charged with, among other things, desecrating the
    flag by blowing his nose on one. His intrepid Yale-educated defense
    counsel - having precious little to work with -- got the flag charge
    dismissed, arguing that "but for the accident of physiognomy, the
    accused's deed would have been protected free speech" (or - as we say
    in courts-martial - "words to that effect").

    Years later, in United States v. Wilson, the Army Court of Military
    Review wrote:

    The appellant, a military policeman (MP), while preparing for a
    flag-raising detail, complained to his fellow MPs that the Army and the
    United States "sucked." Another MP told him that he should move to a
    communist country if he didn't like it. The appellant replied, "[t]his
    is what I think," and blew his nose on the American flag, leaving on
    the flag "a small wet circle." After another brief exchange of words,
    the appellant participated without further incident in the flag-raising
    detail. For his action the appellant was charged with dereliction of
    duty in that he "willfully failed to ensure that the United States flag
    was treated with proper respect by blowing his nose on the flag when it
    was his duty as a military policeman on flag call to safeguard and
    protect the flag."

    Rejecting a First Amendment challenge, the court upheld Private
    Wilson's conviction and sentence to four months in the stockade, a
    bad-conduct discharge, and other penalties.

    If Pete Hegseth wants to show how patriotic he is, he might consider
    displaying a different pocket square. If he wants to set a proper
    example, he must do so.

    ###



    Better complain to Trump. Tell him to lock Hegseth up.

    It's the only way to fix this horrible scandal.

    If he hasn't jailed him by now over Signalgate (totally justified) he
    won't jail him over this.

    And since Hegseth or nobody else paid a price it's probably still going on.

    Sleep soundly.

    Tissue?

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Apr 9 08:48:10 2025
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    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 05:35:09 -0500, super70s wrote:

    On 2025-04-08 04:03:38 +0000, Peter Kent Navarro said:
    <snip>
    Better complain to Trump. Tell him to lock Hegseth up.

    It's the only way to fix this horrible scandal.

    If he hasn't jailed him by now over Signalgate (totally justified) he
    won't jail him over this.

    And since Hegseth or nobody else paid a price it's probably still going on. >>
    Sleep soundly.

    "Take Sominex tonight and sleeeeeeep ... safe and restful sleep,
    sleep, sleeeeeeeep."

    "Nembutal, numbs it all. But I prefer, alcohol."

    -- The Clash "The Right Profile"

    (A tune about Montgomery Cliff, quite hilarious!)

    --
    Death to all fanatics!

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