• DON'T BELIEVE TRUMP LIES: China vows to fight to the end, calls Trumps

    From Marmalade King@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 14:14:15 2025
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    April 8, 2025
    China vows to fight to the end, calls Trumps bluff on tariffs

    A busy shopping district in Shenzhen, China, on April 3. Getty Images/Getty Images

    As countries around the globe grapple with the fact they are now in an involuntary trade war with the worlds largest economy, China is maintaining
    an approach of calm defiance to U. S. President Donald Trumps continuing threats.

    After Mr. Trumps Liberation Day tariffs prompted Beijing to impose a
    reciprocal 34-per-cent levy on U. S. imports, leading Mr. Trump on Monday
    to threaten an additional 50-per-cent tariff unless it is reversed
    immediately, China held firm, vowing to fight to the end and denouncing U.
    S. bullying.

    The United States threat to escalate tariffs on China is a mistake on top
    of a mistake, the countrys Ministry of Commerce said in a statement
    Tuesday, adding if Mr. Trump follows through, Beijing will resolutely take countermeasures.

    During the 2024 election, Mr. Trump repeatedly threatened to impose tariffs
    of 60 per cent on Chinese goods. So, Beijing, unlike various U. S. allies
    and partners taken off guard by the levies imposed last week, has had
    months to prepare for an escalating trade war. And while Mr. Trumps
    threatened additional 50-per-cent tariff would go well beyond this, Chinese policy-makers appear publicly at least confident they can weather the
    storm.

    If the tariffs keep going up and up, it becomes a battle of wills and principles rather than economics, said Xu Tianchen, senior economist for
    China at the Economist Intelligence Unit. Since China already faces a
    tariff rate in excess of 60 per cent, it doesnt matter if it goes up by 50
    per cent or 500.

    A global trade war touched off by U. S. President Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs escalated further on April 7, as Trump threatened to increase
    duties on China and the European Union proposed counter-tariffs of its own.

    Reuters

    In a front-page editorial Monday, the Peoples Daily official mouthpiece of
    the Chinese Communist Party said the sky wont fall as a result of the new tariffs, pointing to a general trend of lowering Chinese exports to the U.
    S. in the past decade, reducing Beijings dependency on that market.

    After eight years of trade war with the U. S. , weve built up a wealth of experience in this struggle, the paper added, noting China has a strong capacity to withstand the pressure.

    Chinese state media reported Tuesday that if Mr. Trump follows through on
    his latest threat, Beijing may consider imposing new tariffs on U. S. agricultural and food products, stopping co-operation on fentanyl and
    banning Hollywood movies from China.

    Already, Beijing has reportedly moved to block a potential deal, which
    Trump administration officials planned to announce this week, to save
    TikTok, and pressured a Hong Kong conglomerate not to sell ports on the
    Panama Canal, with the apparent intention of saving leverage for future
    trade talks.

    With Chinese and Hong Kong stocks plummeting Monday, joining a global rout caused by Mr. Trumps tariffs, Chinas sovereign wealth fund and large state banks moved to shore up the markets, leading to a bump in trading Tuesday. Beijing has also lowered the official exchange rate of the yuan against the
    U. S. dollar, suggesting China will use depreciation to offset the cost of tariffs as it did during the first Trump term.

    While that may have some effect in propping up exports to the U. S. in the short term, if Mr. Trump follows through on his latest threat, there is
    only so much depreciation can achieve, making a severe decline in trade inevitable.

    Exports to the U. S. were about 15 per cent of Chinas total exports last
    year, according to state media, which will be a major hit for a country
    already grappling with an economy that has struggled to recover from the COVID-19 pandemic and faces major structural issues around lacklustre
    domestic demand, local government debt and a growing demographic crisis.

    A forced decoupling from the U. S. could accelerate long-needed reforms to boost domestic consumption, however, while Mr. Trumps aggressive policies
    have also undermined a unified Western approach to China, which could make
    it easier for Beijing to expand exports elsewhere.

    On Friday, Chinese President Xi Jinping will meet with Spanish Prime
    Minister Pedro Sanchez, the latest European official to visit Beijing at a
    time when Brussels is calibrating its own response to Mr. Trumps tariffs.

    During Mr. Trumps first term, China came close to securing a major trade
    and investment pact with Europe, but this fell apart during the COVID-19 pandemic amid growing tensions between the West and China, and EU concerns about Chinese manufacturers flooding European markets with cheap goods.

    In recent weeks, Chinese state media has been playing up the potential for greater co-operation and trade with Europe. The EU is the worlds second
    largest consumer market, and China third, and both have pledged to boost consumption, making them attractive counterweights to diminished U. S.
    demand.

    European policy-makers have been stridently critical of Chinas record on
    human rights in recent years and sought to protect their markets from
    Chinese goods, particularly electric vehicles and other high-tech products.
    But Chinas Commerce Ministry said last week the EU had agreed to reopen negotiations on EVs following Mr. Trumps tariffs, and both sides are
    preparing for a major joint summit later this year to mark 50 years of diplomatic ties.

    Speaking this week, Irelands deputy prime minister Simon Harris said the
    bloc should not close ourselves off to trading with China, quite the
    contrary.

    With files from Alexandra Li in Beijing and Reuters

    Globe economics reporter Mark Rendell says Wednesdays tariff announcement
    by President Donald Trump saw Canada not hit as hard as predicted, but that
    the trade war has now gone global.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Marmalade King on Tue Apr 8 10:56:19 2025
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    On 4/8/2025 10:14 AM, Marmalade King wrote:
    April 8, 2025
    China vows to fight to the end, calls Trumps bluff on tariffs

    A busy shopping district in Shenzhen, China, on April 3. Getty Images/Getty Images

    As countries around the globe grapple with the fact they are now in an involuntary trade war with the worlds largest economy, China is maintaining an approach of calm defiance to U. S. President Donald Trumps continuing threats.

    After Mr. Trumps Liberation Day tariffs prompted Beijing to impose a reciprocal 34-per-cent levy on U. S. imports, leading Mr. Trump on Monday
    to threaten an additional 50-per-cent tariff unless it is reversed immediately, China held firm, vowing to fight to the end and denouncing U.
    S. bullying.

    The United States threat to escalate tariffs on China is a mistake on top
    of a mistake, the countrys Ministry of Commerce said in a statement
    Tuesday, adding if Mr. Trump follows through, Beijing will resolutely take countermeasures.

    During the 2024 election, Mr. Trump repeatedly threatened to impose tariffs of 60 per cent on Chinese goods. So, Beijing, unlike various U. S. allies
    and partners taken off guard by the levies imposed last week, has had
    months to prepare for an escalating trade war. And while Mr. Trumps threatened additional 50-per-cent tariff would go well beyond this, Chinese policy-makers appear publicly at least confident they can weather the storm.

    If the tariffs keep going up and up, it becomes a battle of wills and principles rather than economics, said Xu Tianchen, senior economist for China at the Economist Intelligence Unit. Since China already faces a
    tariff rate in excess of 60 per cent, it doesnt matter if it goes up by 50 per cent or 500.

    A global trade war touched off by U. S. President Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs escalated further on April 7, as Trump threatened to increase
    duties on China and the European Union proposed counter-tariffs of its own.

    Reuters

    In a front-page editorial Monday, the Peoples Daily official mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party said the sky wont fall as a result of the new tariffs, pointing to a general trend of lowering Chinese exports to the U.
    S. in the past decade, reducing Beijings dependency on that market.

    After eight years of trade war with the U. S. , weve built up a wealth of experience in this struggle, the paper added, noting China has a strong capacity to withstand the pressure.

    Chinese state media reported Tuesday that if Mr. Trump follows through on
    his latest threat, Beijing may consider imposing new tariffs on U. S. agricultural and food products, stopping co-operation on fentanyl and
    banning Hollywood movies from China.

    Already, Beijing has reportedly moved to block a potential deal, which
    Trump administration officials planned to announce this week, to save
    TikTok, and pressured a Hong Kong conglomerate not to sell ports on the Panama Canal, with the apparent intention of saving leverage for future
    trade talks.

    With Chinese and Hong Kong stocks plummeting Monday, joining a global rout caused by Mr. Trumps tariffs, Chinas sovereign wealth fund and large state banks moved to shore up the markets, leading to a bump in trading Tuesday. Beijing has also lowered the official exchange rate of the yuan against the U. S. dollar, suggesting China will use depreciation to offset the cost of tariffs as it did during the first Trump term.

    While that may have some effect in propping up exports to the U. S. in the short term, if Mr. Trump follows through on his latest threat, there is
    only so much depreciation can achieve, making a severe decline in trade inevitable.

    Exports to the U. S. were about 15 per cent of Chinas total exports last year, according to state media, which will be a major hit for a country already grappling with an economy that has struggled to recover from the COVID-19 pandemic and faces major structural issues around lacklustre domestic demand, local government debt and a growing demographic crisis.

    A forced decoupling from the U. S. could accelerate long-needed reforms to boost domestic consumption, however, while Mr. Trumps aggressive policies have also undermined a unified Western approach to China, which could make
    it easier for Beijing to expand exports elsewhere.

    On Friday, Chinese President Xi Jinping will meet with Spanish Prime
    Minister Pedro Sanchez, the latest European official to visit Beijing at a time when Brussels is calibrating its own response to Mr. Trumps tariffs.

    During Mr. Trumps first term, China came close to securing a major trade
    and investment pact with Europe, but this fell apart during the COVID-19 pandemic amid growing tensions between the West and China, and EU concerns about Chinese manufacturers flooding European markets with cheap goods.

    In recent weeks, Chinese state media has been playing up the potential for greater co-operation and trade with Europe. The EU is the worlds second largest consumer market, and China third, and both have pledged to boost consumption, making them attractive counterweights to diminished U. S. demand.


    gets worse https://cleantechnica.com/2025/04/05/china-just-turned-off-u-s-supplies-of-minerals-critical-for-defense-cleantech/

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 15:57:54 2025
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    On 4/8/2025 10:14 AM, Marmalade King wrote:
    April 8, 2025
    China vows to fight to the end, calls Trumps bluff on tariffs

    A busy shopping district in Shenzhen, China, on April 3. Getty
    Images/Getty Images

    As countries around the globe grapple with the fact they are now in an
    involuntary trade war with the worlds largest economy, China is
    maintaining an approach of calm defiance to U. S. President Donald
    Trumps continuing threats.

    After Mr. Trumps Liberation Day tariffs prompted Beijing to impose a
    reciprocal 34-per-cent levy on U. S. imports, leading Mr. Trump on
    Monday to threaten an additional 50-per-cent tariff unless it is
    reversed immediately, China held firm, vowing to fight to the end and
    denouncing U. S. bullying.

    The United States threat to escalate tariffs on China is a mistake on
    top of a mistake, the countrys Ministry of Commerce said in a statement
    Tuesday, adding if Mr. Trump follows through, Beijing will resolutely
    take countermeasures.

    During the 2024 election, Mr. Trump repeatedly threatened to impose
    tariffs of 60 per cent on Chinese goods. So, Beijing, unlike various U.
    S. allies and partners taken off guard by the levies imposed last week,
    has had months to prepare for an escalating trade war. And while Mr.
    Trumps threatened additional 50-per-cent tariff would go well beyond
    this, Chinese policy-makers appear publicly at least confident they
    can weather the storm.

    If the tariffs keep going up and up, it becomes a battle of wills and
    principles rather than economics, said Xu Tianchen, senior economist
    for China at the Economist Intelligence Unit. Since China already faces
    a tariff rate in excess of 60 per cent, it doesnt matter if it goes up
    by 50 per cent or 500.

    A global trade war touched off by U. S. President Donald Trump's
    sweeping tariffs escalated further on April 7, as Trump threatened to
    increase duties on China and the European Union proposed
    counter-tariffs of its own.

    Reuters

    In a front-page editorial Monday, the Peoples Daily official
    mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party said the sky wont fall as a
    result of the new tariffs, pointing to a general trend of lowering
    Chinese exports to the U. S. in the past decade, reducing Beijings
    dependency on that market.

    After eight years of trade war with the U. S. , weve built up a wealth
    of experience in this struggle, the paper added, noting China has a
    strong capacity to withstand the pressure.

    Chinese state media reported Tuesday that if Mr. Trump follows through
    on his latest threat, Beijing may consider imposing new tariffs on U.
    S. agricultural and food products, stopping co-operation on fentanyl
    and banning Hollywood movies from China.

    Already, Beijing has reportedly moved to block a potential deal, which
    Trump administration officials planned to announce this week, to save
    TikTok, and pressured a Hong Kong conglomerate not to sell ports on the
    Panama Canal, with the apparent intention of saving leverage for future
    trade talks.

    With Chinese and Hong Kong stocks plummeting Monday, joining a global
    rout caused by Mr. Trumps tariffs, Chinas sovereign wealth fund and
    large state banks moved to shore up the markets, leading to a bump in
    trading Tuesday. Beijing has also lowered the official exchange rate of
    the yuan against the U. S. dollar, suggesting China will use
    depreciation to offset the cost of tariffs as it did during the first
    Trump term.

    While that may have some effect in propping up exports to the U. S. in
    the short term, if Mr. Trump follows through on his latest threat,
    there is only so much depreciation can achieve, making a severe decline
    in trade inevitable.

    Exports to the U. S. were about 15 per cent of Chinas total exports
    last year, according to state media, which will be a major hit for a
    country already grappling with an economy that has struggled to recover
    from the COVID-19 pandemic and faces major structural issues around
    lacklustre domestic demand, local government debt and a growing
    demographic crisis.

    A forced decoupling from the U. S. could accelerate long-needed reforms
    to boost domestic consumption, however, while Mr. Trumps aggressive
    policies have also undermined a unified Western approach to China,
    which could make it easier for Beijing to expand exports elsewhere.

    On Friday, Chinese President Xi Jinping will meet with Spanish Prime
    Minister Pedro Sanchez, the latest European official to visit Beijing
    at a time when Brussels is calibrating its own response to Mr. Trumps
    tariffs.

    During Mr. Trumps first term, China came close to securing a major
    trade and investment pact with Europe, but this fell apart during the
    COVID-19 pandemic amid growing tensions between the West and China, and
    EU concerns about Chinese manufacturers flooding European markets with
    cheap goods.

    In recent weeks, Chinese state media has been playing up the potential
    for greater co-operation and trade with Europe. The EU is the worlds
    second largest consumer market, and China third, and both have pledged
    to boost consumption, making them attractive counterweights to
    diminished U. S. demand.


    gets worse >https://cleantechnica.com/2025/04/05/china-just-turned-off-u-s-supplies-of >-minerals-critical-for-defense-cleantech/



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    Why would he lie? He never makes mistakes.

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