• Re: Revenue That We'll MISS Out On, And NOT "Lose", Will Not Hurt Flori

    From -hh@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Fri Apr 18 19:21:08 2025
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    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    DeSantis Dismisses Idea Canadians Will Keep Away From State - Sun Sentinel

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/04/03/oh-no-we-love-florida-desantis-dismisses-idea-canadians-will-keep-away-from-state/

    The estimated 3.271 million Canadians who made their way to Florida in
    2024 was 1.2% more than in 2023

    =====

    DeSantis expects Canadian visitors will keep coming - Orlando Sentinel

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2025/02/19/desantis-expects-canadians-will-keep-coming-to-florida-despite-political-tensions/

    Feb 19, 2025 - Canada is Florida's top source of international tourists
    with 3.3 million making the trip in 2024, representing
    about 2% of Florida's total visitors. Earlier this month, ...

    And within the past eight weeks, Canadian tourism has dropped by 70%.




    I STILL can't find what the hell you're talking about, regarding house and/or property values going down. I was just talking to a neighbor, and we checked
    out our house appraisals... our houses are worth more now, than before all this Canada TOURISM bullshit.

    So... fuck off.


    Is your neighbor a professional realtor?

    If not, you’re in the “Sir, this is a Wendy’s” old geezer meme.

    Because you can’t even do a simple Google news search:

    “Homebuilding Giant Is Forced To Slash Prices in Florida—as It Highlights Sunshine State’s Housing Market Weak Link
    BY SNEJANA FARBEROV
    APRIL 18, 2025”

    <https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/homebuilder-price-cut-florida-housing-market/>

    “Rob McGibney, COO of KB Home, ranked 545th on the Fortune 1000 list, revealed to investors in late March that the company had to reduce prices
    by more than $30,000 in the Sunshine State to drum up local business.

    During the homebuilder's latest earnings call on March 24, McGibney singled
    out Florida as being KB Home's worst-performing market during the first
    three months of the new year.”

    “On the earnings call, McGibney highlighted Jacksonville as a particularly weak link in Florida, given that the city has more than seven months' worth
    of unsold homes piled up on the market, prompting KB Home to slash prices
    even more.

    The Realtor.com® March 2025 Monthly Housing Trends Report echoes what the homebuilder has been seeing on the ground in Jacksonville, which
    experienced a drop of more than 15% in pending sales last month compared
    with the previous year.

    Additionally, the city saw homes sit unsold on the market 10 days longer
    than during the same time in 2024, the third-biggest surge across the
    nation's 50 largest metros.

    Due to slowing buyer demand, Jacksonville also saw its share of for-sale
    homes with price reductions soar to just under 28% in March.

    The median list price in the Florida metro last month was $399,000, down
    nearly 4% year over year. “

    “The KB Home COO noted that Orlando and Tampa markets also softened during
    Q1 2025.

    Realtor.com data from March indicates that Tampa had the second-highest
    share of homes with price reductions, at just under 29%, among the large metros.

    Meanwhile, pending home sales in the city declined nearly 12% from a year
    ago, and the median list price was down more than 4.5%.

    In Orlando, the number of active listings surged more than 45% from the
    year before, and homes spent 60 days on the market in March, six days
    longer than during the same period in 2024.

    Nearly a quarter of all the for-sale properties in Orlando offered a price
    cut, up 4.5 percentage points year over year. “

    And note that that’s the quarter as a whole - it doesn’t take into account the last three weeks of the shit show.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Fri Apr 18 20:20:13 2025
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    On 2025-04-18 17:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    DeSantis Dismisses Idea Canadians Will Keep Away From State - Sun Sentinel

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/04/03/oh-no-we-love-florida-desantis-dismisses-idea-canadians-will-keep-away-from-state/

    The estimated 3.271 million Canadians who made their way to Florida in 2024 was 1.2% more than in 2023
    Do you even know that we're not in 2024 anymore?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sat Apr 19 06:57:57 2025
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    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 19:21:08 -0500, -hh says...

    I STILL can't find what the hell you're talking about, regarding house and/or
    property values going down. I was just talking to a neighbor, and we checked
    out our house appraisals... our houses are worth more now, than before all >>> this Canada TOURISM bullshit.

    So... fuck off.


    Is your neighbor a professional realtor?

    Yes.


    Then why are they not up-to-date on their own industry’s latest news?

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sat Apr 19 06:59:28 2025
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    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:20:13 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-04-18 17:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    DeSantis Dismisses Idea Canadians Will Keep Away From State - Sun Sentinel >>>
    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/04/03/oh-no-we-love-florida-desantis-dismisses-idea-canadians-will-keep-away-from-state/

    The estimated 3.271 million Canadians who made their way to Florida in
    2024 was 1.2% more than in 2023

    Do you even know that we're not in 2024 anymore?

    And we're not into 2025 enough to make any comparisons to the past, y9u fucking moron.

    Actually, 1Q25 real estate reports are emerging.. as I posted to you
    yesterday .. and they’re reflecting exactly what I’ve been saying:

    [quote]

    Because you can’t even do a simple Google news search:

    “Homebuilding Giant Is Forced To Slash Prices in Florida—as It Highlights Sunshine State’s Housing Market Weak Link BY SNEJANA FARBEROV
    APRIL 18, 2025”

    <https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/homebuilder-price-cut-florida-housing-market/>

    “Rob McGibney, COO of KB Home, ranked 545th on the Fortune 1000 list, revealed to investors in late March that the company had to reduce prices
    by more than $30,000 in the Sunshine State to drum up local business.

    During the homebuilder's latest earnings call on March 24, McGibney singled
    out Florida as being KB Home's worst-performing market during the first
    three months of the new year.”

    “On the earnings call, McGibney highlighted Jacksonville as a particularly weak link in Florida, given that the city has more than seven months' worth
    of unsold homes piled up on the market, prompting KB Home to slash prices
    even more.

    The Realtor.com® March 2025 Monthly Housing Trends Report echoes what the homebuilder has been seeing on the ground in Jacksonville, which
    experienced a drop of more than 15% in pending sales last month compared
    with the previous year.

    Additionally, the city saw homes sit unsold on the market 10 days longer
    than during the same time in 2024, the third-biggest surge across the
    nation's 50 largest metros.

    Due to slowing buyer demand, Jacksonville also saw its share of for-sale
    homes with price reductions soar to just under 28% in March.

    The median list price in the Florida metro last month was $399,000, down
    nearly 4% year over year. “

    “The KB Home COO noted that Orlando and Tampa markets also softened during
    Q1 2025.

    Realtor.com data from March indicates that Tampa had the second-highest
    share of homes with price reductions, at just under 29%, among the large metros.

    Meanwhile, pending home sales in the city declined nearly 12% from a year
    ago, and the median list price was down more than 4.5%.

    In Orlando, the number of active listings surged more than 45% from the
    year before, and homes spent 60 days on the market in March, six days
    longer than during the same period in 2024.

    Nearly a quarter of all the for-sale properties in Orlando offered a price
    cut, up 4.5 percentage points year over year. “

    And note that that’s the quarter as a whole - it doesn’t take into account the last three weeks of the shit show.

    [quote]

    You’re clearly being this stupid on purpose. Best for you to totally stop your drinking - your remaining dogs are more likely to survive that way.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sat Apr 19 13:37:07 2025
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    On 2025-04-18 21:01, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:20:13 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-04-18 17:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    DeSantis Dismisses Idea Canadians Will Keep Away From State -
    Sun Sentinel

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/04/03/oh-no-we-love-florida-
    desantis-dismisses-idea-canadians-will-keep-away-from-state/

    The estimated 3.271 million Canadians who made their way to
    Florida in 2024 was 1.2% more than in 2023

    Do you even know that we're not in 2024 anymore?

    And we're not into 2025 enough to make any comparisons to the past,
    y9u fucking moron.

    Are you being this stupid on purpose?

    But it's stupid to compare what happened in 2023 to 2024 when they both happened under the same administration.


    PLONK!

    Running away is your strong suit.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sun Apr 20 14:34:19 2025
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    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 06:59:28 -0500, -hh says...


    ?Rob McGibney, COO of KB Home, ranked 545th on the Fortune 1000 list,
    revealed to investors in late March that the company had to reduce prices
    by more than $30,000 in the Sunshine State to drum up local business.

    Reduce WHAT by $30k?

    Their average prices were discussed in the cited link, including
    information by region within FL.

    Something tells us you're now talking about property that 99.99% of Floridians don't buy.

    Nope. All you’re doing is admitting that you didn’t even bother to read the citation.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Apr 21 07:29:16 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 14:34:19 -0500, -hh
    <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 06:59:28 -0500, -hh says...


    ?Rob McGibney, COO of KB Home, ranked 545th on the Fortune 1000 list,
    revealed to investors in late March that the company had to reduce prices >>>> by more than $30,000 in the Sunshine State to drum up local business.

    Reduce WHAT by $30k?

    Their average prices were discussed in the cited link, including
    information by region within FL.

    Was that the link Alleycat deleted?

    This one? <https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/homebuilder-price-cut-florida-housing-market/>

    Something tells us you're now talking about property that 99.99% of Floridians don't buy.

    Nope. All you’re doing is admitting that you didn’t even bother to read >> the citation.

    The one it deleted? <https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/homebuilder-price-cut-florida-housing-market/>


    Yes, that looks like the same one.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue Apr 22 20:54:22 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 14:34:19 -0500, -hh
    <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 06:59:28 -0500, -hh says...


    ?Rob McGibney, COO of KB Home, ranked 545th on the Fortune 1000 list, >>>>> revealed to investors in late March that the company had to reduce prices >>>>> by more than $30,000 in the Sunshine State to drum up local business. >>>>
    Reduce WHAT by $30k?

    Their average prices were discussed in the cited link, including
    information by region within FL.

    Was that the link Alleycat deleted?

    This one?
    <https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/homebuilder-price-cut-florida-housing-market/>

    Something tells us you're now talking about property that 99.99% of
    Floridians don't buy.

    Nope. All you’re doing is admitting that you didn’t even bother to read >>> the citation.

    The one it deleted?
    <https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/homebuilder-price-cut-florida-housing-market/>


    Yes, that looks like the same one.

    FYI, the hits keep coming: the Institute of International Finance (IIF)
    said today that Trump’s policies mean the US economy may fall into a Recession and shrink by 0.8% in Q3 and 0.3% in Q4 2025 (slightly over 1%
    for 2025)…

    … and inflation could rise to 4.6% by the end of the year.

    If inflation goes up and the economy falls into a recession, it’s called stagflation.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Apr 22 21:50:33 2025
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    On 2025-04-22 20:32, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:54:22 -0500, -hh says...

    Yes, that looks like the same one.

    FYI, the hits keep coming: the Institute of International Finance (IIF)
    said today that Trump?s policies mean the US economy may fall into a
    Recession and shrink by 0.8% in Q3 and 0.3% in Q4 2025 (slightly over 1%
    for 2025)?

    OMG!

    It's 1929 all over again!

    I'd settle for 2009, but we all know Democrats fuck the economy much worse.
    Keep trying to tell yourself that...

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to CAlan on Wed Apr 23 09:38:37 2025
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    CAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-22 20:32, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:54:22 -0500, -hh says...

    Yes, that looks like the same one.

    FYI, the hits keep coming: the Institute of International Finance (IIF) >>> said today that Trump?s policies mean the US economy may fall into a
    Recession and shrink by 0.8% in Q3 and 0.3% in Q4 2025 (slightly over 1% >>> for 2025)?

    OMG!

    It's 1929 all over again!

    I'd settle for 2009, but we all know Democrats fuck the economy much worse.

    Keep trying to tell yourself that...

    Particularly since that bubble popped before Obama was even elected, let
    alone reached office to start to effect new policies.

    Seems that AlleyCat is drunk again & forgetting the basics of a
    chronological history, case in point:

    “The emergence of subprime loan losses in 2007 began the crisis and exposed

    other risky loans and over-inflated asset prices. With loan losses
    mounting and
    the fall of Lehman Brothers on September 15, 2008, a major panic broke out
    on
    the inter-bank loan market.”

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession>

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Apr 23 22:19:25 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 21:50:33 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-04-22 20:32, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:54:22 -0500, -hh says...

    Yes, that looks like the same one.

    FYI, the hits keep coming: the Institute of International Finance (IIF) >>>> said today that Trump?s policies mean the US economy may fall into a
    Recession and shrink by 0.8% in Q3 and 0.3% in Q4 2025 (slightly over 1% >>>> for 2025)?

    OMG!

    It's 1929 all over again!

    I'd settle for 2009, but we all know Democrats fuck the economy much worse.

    Keep trying to tell yourself that...

    Don't have to... it was in all the papers.
    Drunk posting again, huh?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Apr 23 22:20:15 2025
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    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 13:37:07 -0700, Alan says...

    Are you being this stupid on purpose?

    But it's stupid to compare what happened in 2023 to 2024 when they both
    happened under the same administration.


    PLONK!

    Running away from a faggot stalking pedophile is your strong suit.

    I never wrote that...

    ...but you're almost as good at fabricating quotes as you are at running
    away, aren't you, PusseyBoi?



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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Thu Apr 24 07:11:19 2025
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    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    Read it all faggot, and learn.

    Democrat Bahney Fwank's $10 Trillion Crash

    That's right, shut-in.

    Fwank's Fingerprints Are All Over The Financial Fiasco

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=boston.com+barney+frank+fingerprints&ia=web


    Oh, I’m familiar with what’s been claimed as the root cause of the housing bubble…

    …but that still doesn’t mean that Obama signed that legislation. Nor how the crash started in 2007-08, before he was even elected.

    Sober up, and try again.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Apr 24 10:07:22 2025
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    On 2025-04-24 05:11, -hh wrote:
    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    Read it all faggot, and learn.

    Democrat Bahney Fwank's $10 Trillion Crash

    That's right, shut-in.

    Fwank's Fingerprints Are All Over The Financial Fiasco

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=boston.com+barney+frank+fingerprints&ia=web


    Oh, I’m familiar with what’s been claimed as the root cause of the housing
    bubble…

    …but that still doesn’t mean that Obama signed that legislation. Nor how the crash started in 2007-08, before he was even elected.

    Sober up, and try again.

    -hh

    PusseyBoi has never been overly concerned with facts; drunk or sober.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Apr 24 09:30:29 2025
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    On 24/4/25 5:11, -hh wrote:
    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    Read it all faggot, and learn.

    Democrat Bahney Fwank's $10 Trillion Crash

    That's right, shut-in.

    Fwank's Fingerprints Are All Over The Financial Fiasco

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=boston.com+barney+frank+fingerprints&ia=web


    Oh, I’m familiar with what’s been claimed as the root cause of the housing
    bubble…

    …but that still doesn’t mean that Obama signed that legislation. Nor how the crash started in 2007-08, before he was even elected.

    Sober up, and try again.

    -hh


    One lone Magic Democrat in the minority party controlled the
    world economy. One time Democrats used their Magic for evil.

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 11:52:07 2025
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    In article <vudr4a$1vtst$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 05:11, -hh wrote:
    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    Read it all faggot, and learn.

    Democrat Bahney Fwank's $10 Trillion Crash

    That's right, shut-in.

    Fwank's Fingerprints Are All Over The Financial Fiasco

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=boston.com+barney+frank+fingerprints&ia=web


    Oh, I?m familiar with what?s been claimed as the root cause of the housing bubble?

    ?but that still doesn?t mean that Obama signed that legislation. Nor how the crash started in 2007-08, before he was even elected.

    Sober up, and try again.

    -hh

    PusseyBoi has never been overly concerned with facts; drunk or sober.

    So childish. Are you triggered again?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to invalid@none.com on Fri Apr 25 00:48:33 2025
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    In article <MPG.42742832b169cb898a029@usnews.blocknews.net>,
    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote:
    In article <vudr4a$1vtst$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 05:11, -hh wrote:
    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    Read it all faggot, and learn.

    Democrat Bahney Fwank's $10 Trillion Crash

    That's right, shut-in.

    Fwank's Fingerprints Are All Over The Financial Fiasco

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=boston.com+barney+frank+fingerprints&ia=web


    Oh, I?m familiar with what?s been claimed as the root cause of the housing >> > bubble?

    ?but that still doesn?t mean that Obama signed that legislation. Nor how >> > the crash started in 2007-08, before he was even elected.

    Sober up, and try again.

    -hh

    PusseyBoi has never been overly concerned with facts; drunk or sober.

    So childish. Are you triggered again?

    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to katt@gmail.com on Fri Apr 25 00:53:57 2025
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    In article <MPG.4274522eb6b65e6d98bbfc@news.eternal-september.org>,
    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu,24 Apr 2025 07:11:19 -0500, -hh says...

    Democrat Bahney Fwank's $10 Trillion Crash

    That's right, shut-in.

    Fwank's Fingerprints Are All Over The Financial Fiasco

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=boston.com+barney+frank+fingerprintsandia=web


    Oh, I'm familiar with what's been claimed as the root cause of the housing >> bubble...

    Claimed?

    No... proven.


    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

    =====

    This is for the psycho Rudy:

    Both "proved" and "proven" are acceptable past participles of the verb >"prove", "proved" being more commonly used in BRITISH
    ENGLISH, while "proven" is often preferred in AMERICAN English.

    I'm an AMERICAN, you psycho cunt.

    =====

    ... but that still doesn't mean that Obama signed that legislation.

    Signed WHAT "legislation"?

    I never said that. So, why did you say that?

    Sober up, and try again.

    I would, if I drank.

    Nor how the crash started in 2007-08, before he was even elected.

    BECAUSE of Bahney Fwank and the Democrats.

    Sober up, and try again.

    I would, if I drank.

    -homo habilis

    Yup.

    ============================================================================

    Democrat Bahney Fwank's $10 Trillion Crash

    That's right, shut-in.

    Fwank's Fingerprints Are All Over The Financial Fiasco

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=boston.com+barney+frank+fingerprints&ia=web

    ************************************************

    Key Democrats opposed the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act
    of 2005, which would have established a single, independent regulatory
    body with jursdiction over Fannie and Freddie - a move that the
    Government Accountability Office had recommended in a 2004 report.

    ************************************************

    Barney Frank And Democrat Party Most Responsible For 2008 Economic
    Collapse

    It's beyond asinine that Democrats blame Bush for ruining the economy, and >praise Clinton as having the mostest wonderfulest economy ever, when it
    was a Clinton program that ruined the Bush economy. But that's the >mainstream media narrative for you.

    ************************************************

    'THE PRIVATE SECTOR got us into this mess. The government has to get us
    out of it."

    That's Barney Frank's story, and he's sticking to it. As the Massachusetts >Democrat has explained it in recent days, the current financial crisis is
    the spawn of the free market run amok, with the political class guilty
    only of failing to rein the capitalists in.

    The Wall Street meltdown was caused by "bad decisions that were made by >people in the private sector," Frank said; the country is in dire straits >today "thanks to a conservative philosophy that says the market knows
    best." And that philosophy goes "back to Ronald Reagan, when at his >inauguration he said, 'Government is not the answer to our problems; >government is the problem.' "

    In fact, that isn't what Reagan said. His actual words were: "In this
    present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government
    is the problem." Were he president today, he would be saying much the same >thing.

    Because while the mortgage crisis convulsing Wall Street has its share of >private-sector culprits -- many of whom have been learning lately just how >pitiless the private sector's discipline can be -- they weren't the ones
    who "got us into this mess." Barney Frank's talking points
    notwithstanding, mortgage lenders didn't wake up one fine day deciding to >junk long-held standards of creditworthiness in order to make ill-advised >loans to unqualified borrowers. It would be closer to the truth to say
    they woke up to find the government twisting their arms and demanding that >they do so - or else.

    The roots of this crisis go back to the Carter administration. That was
    when government officials, egged on by left-wing activists, began accusing >mortgage lenders of racism and "redlining" because urban blacks were being >denied mortgages at a higher rate than suburban whites.

    ************************************************

    Only people can who understand how politics and the economy work know
    this.

    Whose Fault was It?

    By far the most dangerous myth is that deregulation is the root cause of
    the problem.

    The culprit was a system geared toward loaning money to people who were
    not in a position to pay it back. Two policies underpinned that system:
    easy money by the Federal Reserve and the government-induced lowering of >standards for approving loan requests.

    In a recent paper for the Independent Institute, University of Texas >professor Stan Liebowitz argues that "in an attempt to increase >homeownership... virtually every branch of the government undertook an
    attack on underwriting standards starting in the early 1990s... the
    Clinton era."

    Starting with the creation of the Federal Housing Administration in 1934
    and all the way to the norms that made Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae acquire >substantial loans given to people with weak credit.

    Not surprisingly, once the Fed expanded credit, astronomical amounts of >capital poured into a housing market that people assumed was protected by
    the government. What came next was a consequence of the original sin.

    Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, H.U.D., Bahney Fwank, Bill Clinton, Andrew Cuomo.

    Who is responsible for the crash?

    Democrats' lobbyist-induced denial to regulate Housing, led to Wall Street >collapse:

    Barney Frank: I don't see anything in this report that raises safety
    and soundness problems.

    "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing
    any kind of financial crisis," said Representative Barney Frank of >Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services
    Committee.

    "The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there
    is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable
    housing."

    ************************************************

    Anatomy of a bubble

    Step 1. The intoxication: "My house is worth millions!" From 1995 -
    2005, the number of sub-prime mortgages skyrocket. So did the house
    prices.

    Step 2. The hangover: "Oh my God, my house isn't selling. What went
    wrong?"

    WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE TRY TO STOP IT?

    Someone did:

    ********* "The Bush administration today recommended the most
    significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since
    the savings and loan crisis a decade ago." - The New York Times,
    September 11, 2003. ***************

    But someone intervened to stymie the Bush administration. Who? The
    New York Times reports:

    Supporters of the companies said efforts to regulate the lenders
    tightly under those agencies might diminish their ability to finance loans >for lower-income families. . . . "These two entities - Fannie Mae and
    Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis," said >Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on
    the Financial Services Committee. "The more people exaggerate these
    problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we
    will see in terms of affordable housing."

    "The Bush administration today recommended the most significant
    regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings
    and loan crisis a decade ago."

    "Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new
    agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume
    supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored
    companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending
    industry."

    http://tinyurl.com/6lp5qu

    "McCain Letter Demanded 2006 Action on Fannie and Freddie"

    "Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae
    and Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis, as HUMAN >EVENTS learned."



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to katt@gmail.com on Fri Apr 25 00:54:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <MPG.4274535f4a641fb198bbfd@news.eternal-september.org>,
    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 22:19:25 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 21:50:33 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-04-22 20:32, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:54:22 -0500, -hh says...

    Yes, that looks like the same one.

    FYI, the hits keep coming: the Institute of International Finance (IIF)
    said today that Trump?s policies mean the US economy may fall into a
    Recession and shrink by 0.8% in Q3 and 0.3% in Q4 2025 (slightly over 1%
    for 2025)?

    OMG!

    It's 1929 all over again!

    I'd settle for 2009, but we all know Democrats fuck the economy
    much worse.

    Keep trying to tell yourself that...

    Don't have to... it was in all the papers.

    Drunk posting again, huh?

    Well... that would be better than faggot posting, faggot rich boy,
    wouldn't it, even if I did drink?

    What about this, leads you to suspect I was "drunk-posting"?

    Biden presided over the worst inflation since the 70s.

    Near Double-Digit Inflation

    The highest inflation in 40 years ultimately doomed the bid by the
    Democrats to retain control of the White House.

    The yearly rate of inflation rose from a scant 1.4% - a level considered >precariously low - when Biden took office in January
    2021 to a peak of 9.1% in the middle of 2022. It was the worst outbreak
    of inflation since the early 1980s.

    Mortgage rates soared. Home sales sank, builders scaled back
    construction and an already acute housing shortage got worse.

    Gas prices nearly doubled.

    In 2022, Wall Street suffered its worst year since the 2008-'09
    (Democrat) financial crisis.

    Each and every one of those are from the "papers"... some even left-wing.

    ==============================================================================

    "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition

    All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

    "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a
    person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike
    of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

    Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in
    the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into
    three distinct phases or stages:

    "In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of
    proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm,
    as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."

    "The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's >vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting
    solely of hyperbole."

    "As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish
    fantasy from reality."

    The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the
    knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything
    Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever
    made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something
    nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one.
    thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received
    positively by TDSers.

    The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the
    early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was
    a punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.

    Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first >coined by the late conservative columnist Charles
    Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was
    "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people
    in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence
    of George W. Bush."

    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to katt@gmail.com on Fri Apr 25 00:56:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <MPG.42745c8c1dcf6aa898bc0f@news.eternal-september.org>,
    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 22:19:25 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 21:50:33 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-04-22 20:32, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:54:22 -0500, -hh says...

    Yes, that looks like the same one.

    FYI, the hits keep coming: the Institute of International Finance (IIF)
    said today that Trump?s policies mean the US economy may fall into a
    Recession and shrink by 0.8% in Q3 and 0.3% in Q4 2025 (slightly over 1%
    for 2025)?

    OMG!

    It's 1929 all over again!

    I'd settle for 2009, but we all know Democrats fuck the economy
    much worse.

    Keep trying to tell yourself that...

    Don't have to... it was in all the papers.

    Drunk posting again, huh?

    Well... that would be better than faggot posting, faggot rich boy,
    wouldn't it, even if I did drink?

    What about this, leads you to suspect I was "drunk-posting"?

    Biden presided over the worst inflation since the 70s.

    Near Double-Digit Inflation

    The highest inflation in 40 years ultimately doomed the bid by the
    Democrats to retain control of the White House.

    The yearly rate of inflation rose from a scant 1.4% - a level considered >precariously low - when Biden took office in January
    2021 to a peak of 9.1% in the middle of 2022. It was the worst outbreak
    of inflation since the early 1980s.

    Mortgage rates soared. Home sales sank, builders scaled back
    construction and an already acute housing shortage got worse.

    Gas prices nearly doubled.

    In 2022, Wall Street suffered its worst year since the 2008-'09
    (Democrat) financial crisis.

    Each and every one of those are from the "papers"... some even left-wing.

    ==============================================================================

    "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition

    All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

    "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a
    person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike
    of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

    Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in
    the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into
    three distinct phases or stages:

    "In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of
    proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm,
    as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."

    "The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's >vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting
    solely of hyperbole."

    "As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish
    fantasy from reality."

    The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the
    knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything
    Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever
    made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something
    nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one.
    thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received
    positively by TDSers.

    The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the
    early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was
    a punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.

    Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first >coined by the late conservative columnist Charles
    Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was
    "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people
    in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence
    of George W. Bush."

    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu May 1 10:29:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 4/21/25 08:29, -hh wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 14:34:19 -0500, -hh
    <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 06:59:28 -0500, -hh says...


    ?Rob McGibney, COO of KB Home, ranked 545th on the Fortune 1000 list, >>>>> revealed to investors in late March that the company had to reduce prices >>>>> by more than $30,000 in the Sunshine State to drum up local business. >>>>
    Reduce WHAT by $30k?

    Their average prices were discussed in the cited link, including
    information by region within FL.

    Was that the link Alleycat deleted?

    This one?
    <https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/homebuilder-price-cut-florida-housing-market/>

    Something tells us you're now talking about property that 99.99% of Floridians don't buy.

    Nope. All you’re doing is admitting that you didn’t even bother to read >>> the citation.

    The one it deleted?
    <https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/homebuilder-price-cut-florida-housing-market/>


    Yes, that looks like the same one.

    FYI, a quick update:

    [quote]
    I don't think people understand what's happening in housing market right
    now.

    Florida now has 177,00 listings. Highest level on record.

    Entire Northeast U.S. has 79,000 listings. Lowest level on record.

    People are leaving Florida. And moving back north. A structural trend
    that will likely last years, and cause Florida's housing market to
    decline for an extended period.
    [/quote]

    <https://x.com/nickgerli1/status/1917924071909822874>

    Data is of Active Resale Listings, as per realtor.com

    FYI, the graphic notes Northeast US as (NY NJ CT PA MA RI NH VT ME) &
    the data shown is from ~March 2016 to March/April 2025 (10 year period).

    The good news for FL single-wide owners is that they could get a bit
    more for it if they were to start towing it north... /s


    -hh

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu May 1 16:56:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 1/5/25 7:29, -hh wrote:
    I don't think people understand what's happening in housing
    market right now.

    Florida now has 177,00 listings. Highest level on record.

    Entire Northeast U.S. has 79,000 listings. Lowest level on record.

    People are leaving Florida. And moving back north. A structural
    trend that will likely last years, and cause Florida's housing
    market to decline for an extended period.

    California can buy bus tickets for poor homeless in Oakland and
    Los Angeles.

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