• Re: Poor Rudy... Still Falling For Fake News

    From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sun Apr 20 20:58:41 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.liberalism, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics

    On 2025-04-20 20:46, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:23:36 -0700, Rudy Canoza, forever the mental and physical midget, who was *NEVER* a three sport letterman,
    like me, and who was *NEVER* a bouncer, like me, and who was *NEVER* an assistant golf pro, like me, and who was *NEVER* a
    lifeguard, like me, and who *NEVER* dunked a basketball, like me, and has *NEVER* laid as many women as me, says...

    "according to four people with knowledge of the chat"

    No need to read past that bullshit.

    https://www.nytimes.com
    So you're stating for the record that Hegseth didn't do it?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Apr 21 18:09:59 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.liberalism, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics

    On 2025-04-20 22:16, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 20:58:41 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-04-20 20:46, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:23:36 -0700, Rudy Canoza, forever the
    mental and physical midget, who was *NEVER* a three sport
    letterman, like me, and who was *NEVER* a bouncer, like me, and
    who was *NEVER* an assistant golf pro, like me, and who was
    *NEVER* a lifeguard, like me, and who *NEVER* dunked a
    basketball, like me, and has *NEVER* laid as many women as me,
    says...

    "according to four people with knowledge of the chat"

    No need to read past that bullshit.

    https://www.nytimes.com

    So you're stating for the record that Hegseth didn't do it?

    What "record"?

    There is always more to these stories, than what these propaganda
    sites "report".

    They lie by omission.

    Slate and Axios, which Lyin' Lee uses almost explicitly, ALWAYS
    twist the truth into some evil conspiracy, that, 2 weeks later, is
    always debunked or explained away with SIMPLE reasons.

    There's no fucking way in hell, a MILITARY man, such as Hegseth, is
    going to let his wife, brother and lawyer, have access to classified
    or top secret "plans".

    NOBODY is that stupid, 'cept maybe Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.

    I still maintain, that if ANY of this shit is "true", then there's a
    logical explanation... misinformation being just one of many.

    "according to four people with knowledge of the chat"

    WHO are these four people? If they KNOW, then, why aren't Democrat
    Senators and Representatives hauling their asses into Congress to
    find out what they "know"?

    Why isn't Hegseth under investigation by these same Congressmen?
    Funny how when we ask you why all kinds of things aren't being
    investigated that you claim are true...

    ...your answer is always "Give it time".

    Yes or no:

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had no
    security clearance?

    Take a stand.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Apr 22 10:44:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had
    no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a
    secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have
    security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Apr 22 10:53:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had
    no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?
    Actually, now I DO know!

    It's not a congressional investigation...

    ...but then Trump loyalists are running congress right now:

    'The Pentagon’s inspector general has launched an investigation into
    Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s use of the Signal messaging app to
    discuss U.S. military operations in Yemen with other national security officials.'

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/03/dod-watchdog-investigation-hegseth-signal-00270210>

    'The inquiry follows calls from Senate Armed Services Chair Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) and ranking member Jack Reed (D-R.I.) for the agency’s
    watchdog to look into Hegseth’s messages and participation in the chat. National security adviser Mike Waltz set up the now infamous chat in
    March to coordinate the Trump administration’s plans for strikes against
    the Houthis and accidentally invited a journalist to it.'

    Oh, and to be clear:

    'The White House insists it has ended any further investigation into the episode, although POLITICO reported Wednesday that Waltz set up as many
    as 20 group chats to coordinate the Trump administration’s foreign policy.'

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 14:55:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vu8ki0$do42$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had
    no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have
    security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    What makes you think they are true?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Tue Apr 22 13:57:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-22 13:55, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8ki0$do42$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had
    no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for
    divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a
    secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have
    security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    What makes you think they are true?

    I was asking PusseyCat what he thinks...

    ...but I'm willing to have you answer my question.

    :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 14:56:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vu8l30$13d7p$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had
    no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?
    Actually, now I DO know!

    It's not a congressional investigation...

    ...but then Trump loyalists are running congress right now:

    'The Pentagon?s inspector general has launched an investigation into
    Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth?s use of the Signal messaging app to
    discuss U.S. military operations in Yemen with other national security officials.'

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/03/dod-watchdog-investigation-hegseth-signal-00270210>

    'The inquiry follows calls from Senate Armed Services Chair Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) and ranking member Jack Reed (D-R.I.) for the agency?s
    watchdog to look into Hegseth?s messages and participation in the chat. National security adviser Mike Waltz set up the now infamous chat in
    March to coordinate the Trump administration?s plans for strikes against
    the Houthis and accidentally invited a journalist to it.'

    Oh, and to be clear:

    'The White House insists it has ended any further investigation into the episode, although POLITICO reported Wednesday that Waltz set up as many
    as 20 group chats to coordinate the Trump administration?s foreign policy.'

    A nothing burger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 15:29:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vu8vrl$1ctqu$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 13:55, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8ki0$do42$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had
    no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for
    divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a >> secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have
    security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    What makes you think they are true?

    I was asking PusseyCat what he thinks...

    ...but I'm willing to have you answer my question.

    :-)

    I asked you a question. Answer it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Tue Apr 22 14:31:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-22 14:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8vrl$1ctqu$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 13:55, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8ki0$do42$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had
    no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for >>>>> divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a >>>> secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have
    security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    What makes you think they are true?

    I was asking PusseyCat what he thinks...

    ...but I'm willing to have you answer my question.

    :-)

    I asked you a question. Answer it.

    I asked a question first.

    Answer it and I'll consider answering yours.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 15:36:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vu91ro$1f8fm$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 14:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8vrl$1ctqu$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 13:55, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8ki0$do42$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had >>>>>> no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for >>>>> divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a >>>> secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have
    security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    What makes you think they are true?

    I was asking PusseyCat what he thinks...

    ...but I'm willing to have you answer my question.

    :-)

    I asked you a question. Answer it.

    I asked a question first.

    Answer it and I'll consider answering yours.

    You didn't ask me. Now answer the damn question.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Tue Apr 22 15:06:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-22 14:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu91ro$1f8fm$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 14:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8vrl$1ctqu$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 13:55, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8ki0$do42$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had >>>>>>>> no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for >>>>>>> divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a >>>>>> secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have >>>>>> security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    What makes you think they are true?

    I was asking PusseyCat what he thinks...

    ...but I'm willing to have you answer my question.

    :-)

    I asked you a question. Answer it.

    I asked a question first.

    Answer it and I'll consider answering yours.

    You didn't ask me. Now answer the damn question.

    Nope.

    You replied to my post where I had posed a question.

    Answer it. Take a stand.

    Or are you too much a coward.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 17:16:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vu93sf$1gtg2$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 14:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu91ro$1f8fm$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 14:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8vrl$1ctqu$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 13:55, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8ki0$do42$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had >>>>>>>> no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for >>>>>>> divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without >>>>>>> security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a
    secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have >>>>>> security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    What makes you think they are true?

    I was asking PusseyCat what he thinks...

    ...but I'm willing to have you answer my question.

    :-)

    I asked you a question. Answer it.

    I asked a question first.

    Answer it and I'll consider answering yours.

    You didn't ask me. Now answer the damn question.

    Nope.

    You replied to my post where I had posed a question.

    Answer it. Take a stand.

    Or are you too much a coward.

    Why are you running from my question?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Tue Apr 22 16:46:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-22 16:16, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu93sf$1gtg2$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 14:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu91ro$1f8fm$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 14:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8vrl$1ctqu$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 13:55, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8ki0$do42$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had >>>>>>>>>> no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for >>>>>>>>> divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without >>>>>>>>> security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a
    secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have >>>>>>>> security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    What makes you think they are true?

    I was asking PusseyCat what he thinks...

    ...but I'm willing to have you answer my question.

    :-)

    I asked you a question. Answer it.

    I asked a question first.

    Answer it and I'll consider answering yours.

    You didn't ask me. Now answer the damn question.

    Nope.

    You replied to my post where I had posed a question.

    Answer it. Take a stand.

    Or are you too much a coward.

    Why are you running from my question?

    Why are you running from mine?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 18:06:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vu99p1$1m1vc$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 16:16, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu93sf$1gtg2$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 14:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu91ro$1f8fm$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 14:29, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8vrl$1ctqu$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 13:55, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vu8ki0$do42$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-21 19:43, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:09:59 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you think that Hegseth shared these plans with people who had >>>>>>>>>> no security clearance?

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for
    divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without >>>>>>>>> security clearance?
    What does that matter?

    I'm asking you.

    The reports are that Hegseth got information on military operations on a
    secure device/channel, and reshared them with people who don't have >>>>>>>> security clearanes.

    Do you think those reports are false?

    What makes you think they are true?

    I was asking PusseyCat what he thinks...

    ...but I'm willing to have you answer my question.

    :-)

    I asked you a question. Answer it.

    I asked a question first.

    Answer it and I'll consider answering yours.

    You didn't ask me. Now answer the damn question.

    Nope.

    You replied to my post where I had posed a question.

    Answer it. Take a stand.

    Or are you too much a coward.

    Why are you running from my question?

    Why are you running from mine?

    You didn't ask me numbskull.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Apr 23 11:45:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a
    person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 23 15:50:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a
    person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Wed Apr 23 14:51:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a
    person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had
    said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 23 16:15:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a
    person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had
    said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Wed Apr 23 15:21:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-23 15:15, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a
    person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had >>>> said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    Let's see you articulate those facts.

    How about you start with a SINGLE fact that indicated Abrego Garcia was
    a member of MS13?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 23 17:36:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vubp5i$2cpu$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 15:15, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a
    person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had >>>> said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    Let's see you articulate those facts.

    How about you start with a SINGLE fact that indicated Abrego Garcia was
    a member of MS13?

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Wed Apr 23 18:48:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-23 16:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubp5i$2cpu$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 15:15, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a >>>>>> person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had >>>>>> said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    Let's see you articulate those facts.

    How about you start with a SINGLE fact that indicated Abrego Garcia was
    a member of MS13?

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    Here's a photo of Abrego Garcia with Salvadoran president, Bukele:

    <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoxxScKXcAELfeE?format=jpg&name=large>

    Notice the complete lack of the supposed "ink".

    As for his "associations", standing outside a Home Depot hoping to pick
    up day labour doesn't make you an "associate" of others trying to do the
    same thing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Apr 23 20:48:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-23 20:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:48:24 -0700, Alan says...

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply put what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Apr 23 20:51:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    Do you know if Pete Hegseth is under Congressional investigation for
    divulging CLASSIFIED or TOP SECRET information to those without
    security clearance?

    What does that matter?

    So... that would be a no.

    Actually, it turns out the IG of the DoD IS investigating...

    ...and congress is controlled by Trump sycophants

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Apr 23 20:52:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:53:36 -0700, Alan says...

    It's not a congressional investigation...

    Then it doesn't count.

    ANYONE can open an "investigation, stupid.
    This is the Inspector General of the Department of Defense opening an investigation at the behest of congress.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 08:33:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vuccah$nned$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:48:24 -0700, Alan says...

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply put what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    They did say that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 08:32:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vuc598$cuvq$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 16:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubp5i$2cpu$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 15:15, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a >>>>>> person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had
    said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    Let's see you articulate those facts.

    How about you start with a SINGLE fact that indicated Abrego Garcia was
    a member of MS13?

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    Here's a photo of Abrego Garcia with Salvadoran president, Bukele:

    <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoxxScKXcAELfeE?format=jpg&name=large>

    Notice the complete lack of the supposed "ink".

    As for his "associations", standing outside a Home Depot hoping to pick
    up day labour doesn't make you an "associate" of others trying to do the
    same thing.

    Get glasses. Yes they are there.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Thu Apr 24 10:08:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-24 07:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuccah$nned$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:48:24 -0700, Alan says...

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply put what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    They did say that.

    Then you'll have no trouble quoting it, will you?

    And we all know that when you can provide support, you do, don't we?

    :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Thu Apr 24 10:09:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-24 07:32, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuc598$cuvq$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 16:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubp5i$2cpu$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 15:15, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a >>>>>>>> person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had
    said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    Let's see you articulate those facts.

    How about you start with a SINGLE fact that indicated Abrego Garcia was >>>> a member of MS13?

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    Here's a photo of Abrego Garcia with Salvadoran president, Bukele:

    <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoxxScKXcAELfeE?format=jpg&name=large>

    Notice the complete lack of the supposed "ink".

    As for his "associations", standing outside a Home Depot hoping to pick
    up day labour doesn't make you an "associate" of others trying to do the
    same thing.

    Get glasses. Yes they are there.

    Nope.

    The letters "M S 1 3" are clearly Photoshopped onto the image.

    And you know who agrees that he had no gang tattoos?

    The Prince George Police Department.

    :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Thu Apr 24 10:13:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:51:16 -0700, Alan says...

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    So... you are saying that absolutely, Garcia is not MS-13.

    I'm saying that it is far from proven that he is part of MS13.


    Gotcha.


    If he's not MS-13, then WHY did his punching bag(wife) cover them up
    in this video?

    Andy Ngo found Abrego Garcia's wife covered up with hearts on his
    knuckles his tattoos of Marijuana "M" a Smiley "S" and the #s 1 and 3-MS-13-if they were OK why cover them up?

    Because that's where her heart is in the photo?


    Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, has
    strategically censored her partner's left hand in the photo she
    uploaded on her TikTok to promote her GoFundMe.

    @nayibbukele, can you release the full resolution photos from the
    photoshoot meeting he had with @ChrisVanHollen? The tattoos appear
    to be a marijuana leaf, a smile and the number 13.

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1913308669883854848/vid/ avc1/720x1280/Xfq8IrgY0gO-2w8W.mp4?tag=16

    Here are actual MS13 gang tattoos:

    <https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=1243c2b95c154fbe&q=ms13+tattoos&udm=2&fbs=ABzOT_CWdhQLP1FcmU5B0fn3xuWpA-dk4wpBWOGsoR7DG5zJBq3yjtZsyDrI40y5Sp313Qo9yeEYj9D2EYI66a6sNSuja9foUUTSG3xx0IUuYsG2ky3os2hDz-zm1_9Yl0ioNZWMk-C76w1W2rSY_
    53ELGcIDs0JzukKqZVIski7xPRabzPnPrVFhYGl6pFqwwoNg34zXtB3U66eaEz_YPSNYTDVPxhjAQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjevKqLlfGMAxW_weYEHUKZAe4QtKgLegQIExAB&biw=1618&bih=886&dpr=2>

    Note how completely free from this alleged code you (and Trump) have
    invented.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Thu Apr 24 10:14:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:45:04 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.

    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay

    From two JUDGES, not anonymous sources.
    Nope. The reports were presented TO judges.

    Judges don't issue reports in cases like this: they make RULINGS.

    Those rulings are based on testimony and evidence presented, and hearsay
    is typically not allowed.

    You really don't understand how the judicial process works, do you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Thu Apr 24 10:36:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-24 10:18, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 20:51:32 -0700, Alan says...

    ...and congress is controlled by Trump sycophants

    So?

    Congress has NEVER investigated a Democrat, when Congress was controlled by Democrats with a Democrat President.

    Reach, brother-fucker... REACH!
    You're the one reaching, PusseyBoi.

    Congress has called for an investigation by the IG of the DoD.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 11:45:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vudr5u$1vtst$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 07:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuccah$nned$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:48:24 -0700, Alan says...

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply put what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    They did say that.

    Then you'll have no trouble quoting it, will you?

    And we all know that when you can provide support, you do, don't we?

    :-)

    You have seen the tatoos. You have read the article. Stop
    being stupid.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 11:47:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vudr8r$1vtst$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 07:32, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuc598$cuvq$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 16:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubp5i$2cpu$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 15:15, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a >>>>>>>> person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had
    said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    Let's see you articulate those facts.

    How about you start with a SINGLE fact that indicated Abrego Garcia was >>>> a member of MS13?

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    Here's a photo of Abrego Garcia with Salvadoran president, Bukele:

    <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoxxScKXcAELfeE?format=jpg&name=large>

    Notice the complete lack of the supposed "ink".

    As for his "associations", standing outside a Home Depot hoping to pick
    up day labour doesn't make you an "associate" of others trying to do the >> same thing.

    Get glasses. Yes they are there.

    Nope.

    The letters "M S 1 3" are clearly Photoshopped onto the image.

    And you know who agrees that he had no gang tattoos?

    The Prince George Police Department.

    :-)

    No photoshop. The tats on his fingers are a MS 13 tat.
    This is well known among those who know.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 11:49:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vudreu$1vu9u$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:51:16 -0700, Alan says...

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    So... you are saying that absolutely, Garcia is not MS-13.

    I'm saying that it is far from proven that he is part of MS13.

    You don't wear the signs if you're not in.


    Gotcha.


    If he's not MS-13, then WHY did his punching bag(wife) cover them up
    in this video?

    Andy Ngo found Abrego Garcia's wife covered up with hearts on his
    knuckles his tattoos of Marijuana "M" a Smiley "S" and the #s 1 and 3-MS-13-if they were OK why cover them up?

    Because that's where her heart is in the photo?

    Nice excuse. The tats are real.


    Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, has
    strategically censored her partner's left hand in the photo she
    uploaded on her TikTok to promote her GoFundMe.

    @nayibbukele, can you release the full resolution photos from the photoshoot meeting he had with @ChrisVanHollen? The tattoos appear
    to be a marijuana leaf, a smile and the number 13.

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1913308669883854848/vid/ avc1/720x1280/Xfq8IrgY0gO-2w8W.mp4?tag=16

    Here are actual MS13 gang tattoos:

    <https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=1243c2b95c154fbe&q=ms13+tattoos&udm=2&fbs=ABzOT_CWdhQLP1FcmU5B0fn3xuWpA-dk4wpBWOGsoR7DG5zJBq3yjtZsyDrI40y5Sp313Qo9yeEYj9D2EYI66a6sNSuja9foUUTSG3xx0IUuYsG2ky3os2hDz-zm1_9Yl0ioNZWMk-C76w1W2rSY_
    53ELGcIDs0JzukKqZVIski7xPRabzPnPrVFhYGl6pFqwwoNg34zXtB3U66eaEz_YPSNYTDVPxhjAQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjevKqLlfGMAxW_weYEHUKZAe4QtKgLegQIExAB&biw=1618&bih=886&dpr=2>

    Note how completely free from this alleged code you (and Trump) have invented.

    Who says? Some garbage from biased Google that has no
    affiliation with gangs?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 11:50:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vudric$1vu9u$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:45:04 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.

    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay

    From two JUDGES, not anonymous sources.
    Nope. The reports were presented TO judges.

    Judges don't issue reports in cases like this: they make RULINGS.

    Those rulings are based on testimony and evidence presented, and hearsay
    is typically not allowed.

    ell it was allowed so I guess it wasn't "hearsay".

    You really don't understand how the judicial process works, do you?

    Like the judge that had gang members living with him?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 11:51:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vudsqf$1vu9u$6@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:18, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 20:48:33 -0700, Alan says...

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply
    put what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    "They" did, you stupid fuck.

    Nope.


    A close look at the photo shows obvious signs that the letters are,
    in fact, intentionally added LABELS applied to explain the symbols confirmed in other photos of Abrego Garcia's left hand.

    Nope.

    and away he runs.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Thu Apr 24 11:01:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-24 10:45, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudr5u$1vtst$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 07:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuccah$nned$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:48:24 -0700, Alan says...

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1> >>>>>>
    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply put what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    They did say that.

    Then you'll have no trouble quoting it, will you?

    And we all know that when you can provide support, you do, don't we?

    :-)

    You have seen the tatoos. You have read the article. Stop
    being stupid.

    And I've read the report by the Prince George Police Department that
    lists his supposed signs of being in a gang...

    ...and that it doesn't list tattoos as one of them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Thu Apr 24 11:02:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-24 10:51, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudsqf$1vu9u$6@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:18, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 20:48:33 -0700, Alan says...

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply
    put what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    "They" did, you stupid fuck.

    Nope.


    A close look at the photo shows obvious signs that the letters are,
    in fact, intentionally added LABELS applied to explain the symbols
    confirmed in other photos of Abrego Garcia's left hand.

    Nope.

    and away he runs.

    Someone made an empty claim and I deny its truth.

    How is that running away?

    :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Thu Apr 24 11:03:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-24 10:47, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudr8r$1vtst$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 07:32, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuc598$cuvq$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 16:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubp5i$2cpu$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 15:15, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a >>>>>>>>>> person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had
    said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    Let's see you articulate those facts.

    How about you start with a SINGLE fact that indicated Abrego Garcia was >>>>>> a member of MS13?

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    Here's a photo of Abrego Garcia with Salvadoran president, Bukele:

    <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoxxScKXcAELfeE?format=jpg&name=large>

    Notice the complete lack of the supposed "ink".

    As for his "associations", standing outside a Home Depot hoping to pick >>>> up day labour doesn't make you an "associate" of others trying to do the >>>> same thing.

    Get glasses. Yes they are there.

    Nope.

    The letters "M S 1 3" are clearly Photoshopped onto the image.

    And you know who agrees that he had no gang tattoos?

    The Prince George Police Department.

    :-)

    No photoshop. The tats on his fingers are a MS 13 tat.
    This is well known among those who know.

    So show another individual with the same tattoos.

    Here, I'll help:

    <https://www.google.com/search?q=tattoos+ms13+-%22abrego+garcia%22&client=safari&sca_esv=de90481cfd079ac5&udm=2&biw=1621&bih=949&ei=etAJaKrYEOmC0PEPtsaJ4AE&ved=0ahUKEwiq_faK_O-MAxVpATQIHTZjAhwQ4dUDCBQ&uact=5&oq=tattoos+ms13+-%22abrego+garcia%22&gs_lp=
    EgNpbWciHXRhdHRvb3MgbXMxMyAtImFicmVnbyBnYXJjaWEiSM8GUMUDWMUDcAJ4AJABAJgBPqABPqoBATG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgCgAgCYAwCIBgGSBwCgBy2yBwC4BwA&sclient=img>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Thu Apr 24 11:06:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-24 10:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudric$1vu9u$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:45:04 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.

    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay

    From two JUDGES, not anonymous sources.
    Nope. The reports were presented TO judges.

    Judges don't issue reports in cases like this: they make RULINGS.

    Those rulings are based on testimony and evidence presented, and hearsay
    is typically not allowed.

    ell it was allowed so I guess it wasn't "hearsay".

    Nope. That's not how reality works.


    You really don't understand how the judicial process works, do you?

    Like the judge that had gang members living with him?

    1. Illegal immigrant, not gang member.

    2. That that person listed that as his address, doesn't mean it was.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Thu Apr 24 11:04:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-04-24 10:49, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudreu$1vu9u$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:51:16 -0700, Alan says...

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    So... you are saying that absolutely, Garcia is not MS-13.

    I'm saying that it is far from proven that he is part of MS13.

    You don't wear the signs if you're not in.

    So why doesn't the Prince George Police Department believe those are
    gang signs?



    Gotcha.


    If he's not MS-13, then WHY did his punching bag(wife) cover them up
    in this video?

    Andy Ngo found Abrego Garcia's wife covered up with hearts on his
    knuckles his tattoos of Marijuana "M" a Smiley "S" and the #s 1 and
    3-MS-13-if they were OK why cover them up?

    Because that's where her heart is in the photo?

    Nice excuse. The tats are real.

    I never said they weren't.

    What hasn't been shown is that they indicate MS13.



    Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, has
    strategically censored her partner's left hand in the photo she
    uploaded on her TikTok to promote her GoFundMe.

    @nayibbukele, can you release the full resolution photos from the
    photoshoot meeting he had with @ChrisVanHollen? The tattoos appear
    to be a marijuana leaf, a smile and the number 13.

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1913308669883854848/vid/
    avc1/720x1280/Xfq8IrgY0gO-2w8W.mp4?tag=16

    Here are actual MS13 gang tattoos:

    <https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=1243c2b95c154fbe&q=ms13+tattoos&udm=2&fbs=ABzOT_CWdhQLP1FcmU5B0fn3xuWpA-dk4wpBWOGsoR7DG5zJBq3yjtZsyDrI40y5Sp313Qo9yeEYj9D2EYI66a6sNSuja9foUUTSG3xx0IUuYsG2ky3os2hDz-zm1_9Yl0ioNZWMk-C76w1W2rSY_
    53ELGcIDs0JzukKqZVIski7xPRabzPnPrVFhYGl6pFqwwoNg34zXtB3U66eaEz_YPSNYTDVPxhjAQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjevKqLlfGMAxW_weYEHUKZAe4QtKgLegQIExAB&biw=1618&bih=886&dpr=2>

    Note how completely free from this alleged code you (and Trump) have
    invented.

    Who says? Some garbage from biased Google that has no
    affiliation with gangs?

    So show another individual with those signs.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 12:32:29 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vudsrs$1vu9u$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:18, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 20:51:32 -0700, Alan says...

    ...and congress is controlled by Trump sycophants

    So?

    Congress has NEVER investigated a Democrat, when Congress was controlled by Democrats with a Democrat President.

    Reach, brother-fucker... REACH!
    You're the one reaching, PusseyBoi.

    Congress has called for an investigation by the IG of the DoD.

    So? The loony left will be doing that shit for the next 3
    1/2 years. Anything to disrupt.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 12:33:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vuduan$240aq$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:45, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudr5u$1vtst$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 07:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuccah$nned$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:48:24 -0700, Alan says...

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1> >>>>>>
    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos". >>>>>
    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply put what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    They did say that.

    Then you'll have no trouble quoting it, will you?

    And we all know that when you can provide support, you do, don't we?

    :-)

    You have seen the tatoos. You have read the article. Stop
    being stupid.

    And I've read the report by the Prince George Police Department that
    lists his supposed signs of being in a gang...

    ...and that it doesn't list tattoos as one of them.

    Like THEY are the fucking experts?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 12:36:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vudugb$240aq$6@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:49, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudreu$1vu9u$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:51:16 -0700, Alan says...

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    So... you are saying that absolutely, Garcia is not MS-13.

    I'm saying that it is far from proven that he is part of MS13.

    You don't wear the signs if you're not in.

    So why doesn't the Prince George Police Department believe those are
    gang signs?

    Because they don't know everything.



    Gotcha.


    If he's not MS-13, then WHY did his punching bag(wife) cover them up
    in this video?

    Andy Ngo found Abrego Garcia's wife covered up with hearts on his
    knuckles his tattoos of Marijuana "M" a Smiley "S" and the #s 1 and
    3-MS-13-if they were OK why cover them up?

    Because that's where her heart is in the photo?

    Nice excuse. The tats are real.

    I never said they weren't.

    What hasn't been shown is that they indicate MS13.

    The ones on his fingers do. This is settled.



    Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, has
    strategically censored her partner's left hand in the photo she
    uploaded on her TikTok to promote her GoFundMe.

    @nayibbukele, can you release the full resolution photos from the
    photoshoot meeting he had with @ChrisVanHollen? The tattoos appear
    to be a marijuana leaf, a smile and the number 13.

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1913308669883854848/vid/
    avc1/720x1280/Xfq8IrgY0gO-2w8W.mp4?tag=16

    Here are actual MS13 gang tattoos:

    <https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=1243c2b95c154fbe&q=ms13+tattoos&udm=2&fbs=ABzOT_CWdhQLP1FcmU5B0fn3xuWpA-dk4wpBWOGsoR7DG5zJBq3yjtZsyDrI40y5Sp313Qo9yeEYj9D2EYI66a6sNSuja9foUUTSG3xx0IUuYsG2ky3os2hDz-zm1_9Yl0ioNZWMk-C76w1W2rSY_
    53ELGcIDs0JzukKqZVIski7xPRabzPnPrVFhYGl6pFqwwoNg34zXtB3U66eaEz_YPSNYTDVPxhjAQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjevKqLlfGMAxW_weYEHUKZAe4QtKgLegQIExAB&biw=1618&bih=886&dpr=2>

    Note how completely free from this alleged code you (and Trump) have
    invented.

    Who says? Some garbage from biased Google that has no
    affiliation with gangs?

    So show another individual with those signs.

    I don't hang out with them moron. You go find them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 12:34:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vududo$240aq$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:47, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudr8r$1vtst$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 07:32, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuc598$cuvq$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 16:36, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubp5i$2cpu$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 15:15, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com >>>>>>>>> says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay (a >>>>>>>>>> person testified to what another person told him yet a third person had
    said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    Let's see you articulate those facts.

    How about you start with a SINGLE fact that indicated Abrego Garcia was
    a member of MS13?

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    Here's a photo of Abrego Garcia with Salvadoran president, Bukele:

    <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoxxScKXcAELfeE?format=jpg&name=large>

    Notice the complete lack of the supposed "ink".

    As for his "associations", standing outside a Home Depot hoping to pick >>>> up day labour doesn't make you an "associate" of others trying to do the >>>> same thing.

    Get glasses. Yes they are there.

    Nope.

    The letters "M S 1 3" are clearly Photoshopped onto the image.

    And you know who agrees that he had no gang tattoos?

    The Prince George Police Department.

    :-)

    No photoshop. The tats on his fingers are a MS 13 tat.
    This is well known among those who know.

    So show another individual with the same tattoos.

    Here, I'll help:

    <https://www.google.com/search?q=tattoos+ms13+-%22abrego+garcia%22&client=safari&sca_esv=de90481cfd079ac5&udm=2&biw=1621&bih=949&ei=etAJaKrYEOmC0PEPtsaJ4AE&ved=0ahUKEwiq_faK_O-MAxVpATQIHTZjAhwQ4dUDCBQ&uact=5&oq=tattoos+ms13+-%22abrego+garcia%22&gs_lp=
    EgNpbWciHXRhdHRvb3MgbXMxMyAtImFicmVnbyBnYXJjaWEiSM8GUMUDWMUDcAJ4AJABAJgBPqABPqoBATG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgCgAgCYAwCIBgGSBwCgBy2yBwC4BwA&sclient=img>

    Yea? Is there a point here?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 12:38:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vuduir$240aq$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudric$1vu9u$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:45:04 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.

    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay

    From two JUDGES, not anonymous sources.
    Nope. The reports were presented TO judges.

    Judges don't issue reports in cases like this: they make RULINGS.

    Those rulings are based on testimony and evidence presented, and hearsay >> is typically not allowed.

    ell it was allowed so I guess it wasn't "hearsay".

    Nope. That's not how reality works.

    So if it was then why did they allow it?


    You really don't understand how the judicial process works, do you?

    Like the judge that had gang members living with him?

    1. Illegal immigrant, not gang member.

    Gang member with weapons.

    2. That that person listed that as his address, doesn't mean it was.

    He was living there. Proof that some judges are in bed
    with the cartel.

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  • From Roy Blankenship@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 24 19:41:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.culture.alaska

    On 24 Apr 2025, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
    some news:DfvOP.792464$j2D.75651@fx09.iad:

    On 4/24/2025 9:47 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted
    another content-free batch of lies:

    In article <iQtOP.98968$oJg.60915@fx17.iad>,
    mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...

    On 4/24/2025 6:58 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
    Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking
    do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:

    In article <g3fOP.396000$5e_1.385843@fx33.iad>,
    mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...

    On 4/23/2025 4:36 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
    Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking
    do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:

    In article <vubp5i$2cpu$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 15:15, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
    Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking
    do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
    In article <vubnck$1hlo$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 14:50, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
    Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking >>>>>>>>> do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
    In article <vubcfg$3kpek$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com >>>>>>>>>> says...

    On 2025-04-22 20:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 10:44:32 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.
    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double
    hearsay (a person testified to what another person told him >>>>>>>>>>> yet a third person had said)...

    ...and you don't seem to mind that at all.

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    No, they went by facts.

    Let's see you articulate those facts.

    How about you start with a SINGLE fact that indicated Abrego
    Garcia was a member of MS13?

    The tats on his fingers and

    Fuck off. You haven't seen them and you wouldn't recognize any
    gang "tats" [sic] even if you did.

    I have seen them and

    No, you have not seen them.

    Yes and

    No, you have not seen Abrego Garcia's tattoos, and you wouldn't be
    able to tell anything from them even if you had. Stop lying, you fat
    *old* little bitch.

    I grew up around gangs.

    Bull-fucking-shit. You grew up in some lily-white downmarket suburb.

    You have no idea

    I know nothing, nothing!

    Light years beyond dispute.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to nuh-uh@nope.com on Fri Apr 25 00:46:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vudsrs$1vu9u$7@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-24 10:18, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 20:51:32 -0700, Alan says...

    ...and congress is controlled by Trump sycophants

    So?

    Congress has NEVER investigated a Democrat, when Congress was
    controlled by Democrats with a Democrat President.

    Reach, brother-fucker... REACH!
    You're the one reaching, PusseyBoi.

    Congress has called for an investigation by the IG of the DoD.


    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to invalid@none.com on Fri Apr 25 00:47:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <MPG.427426c2678ded7d98a024@usnews.blocknews.net>,
    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote:
    In article <vudr5u$1vtst$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 07:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuccah$nned$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:48:24 -0700, Alan says...

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply put
    what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    They did say that.

    Then you'll have no trouble quoting it, will you?

    And we all know that when you can provide support, you do, don't we?

    :-)

    You have seen the tatoos. You have read the article. Stop
    being stupid.

    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to invalid@none.com on Fri Apr 25 00:48:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <MPG.42742788e988452098a026@usnews.blocknews.net>,
    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote:
    In article <vudreu$1vu9u$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:51:16 -0700, Alan says...

    2 judges said he was MS13. I believe them.

    No.

    Two judges accepted a report written by a disgraced cop.

    So... you are saying that absolutely, Garcia is not MS-13.

    I'm saying that it is far from proven that he is part of MS13.

    You don't wear the signs if you're not in.


    Gotcha.


    If he's not MS-13, then WHY did his punching bag(wife) cover them up
    in this video?

    Andy Ngo found Abrego Garcia's wife covered up with hearts on his
    knuckles his tattoos of Marijuana "M" a Smiley "S" and the #s 1 and
    3-MS-13-if they were OK why cover them up?

    Because that's where her heart is in the photo?

    Nice excuse. The tats are real.


    Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, has
    strategically censored her partner's left hand in the photo she
    uploaded on her TikTok to promote her GoFundMe.

    @nayibbukele, can you release the full resolution photos from the
    photoshoot meeting he had with @ChrisVanHollen? The tattoos appear
    to be a marijuana leaf, a smile and the number 13.

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1913308669883854848/vid/
    avc1/720x1280/Xfq8IrgY0gO-2w8W.mp4?tag=16

    Here are actual MS13 gang tattoos:

    <https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=1243c2b95c154fbe&q=ms13+tattoos&udm=2&fbs=ABzOT_CWdhQLP1FcmU5B0fn3xuWpA-dk4wpBWOGsoR7DG5zJBq3yjtZsyDrI40y5Sp313Qo9yeEYj9D2EYI66a6sNSuja9foUUTSG3xx0IUuYsG2ky3os2hDz-zm1_9Yl0ioNZWMk-C76w1W2rSY_
    53ELGcIDs0JzukKqZVIski7xPRabzPnPrVFhYGl6pFqwwoNg34zXtB3U66eaEz_YPSNYTDVPxhjAQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjevKqLlfGMAxW_weYEHUKZAe4QtKgLegQIExAB&biw=1618&bih=886&dpr=2>

    Note how completely free from this alleged code you (and Trump) have
    invented.

    Who says? Some garbage from biased Google that has no
    affiliation with gangs?



    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to nuh-uh@nope.com on Fri Apr 25 00:48:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vuduan$240aq$3@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-24 10:45, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudr5u$1vtst$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 07:33, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vuccah$nned$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:48:24 -0700, Alan says...

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1> >>>>>>>
    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos". >>>>>>
    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply put
    what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    They did say that.

    Then you'll have no trouble quoting it, will you?

    And we all know that when you can provide support, you do, don't we?

    :-)

    You have seen the tatoos. You have read the article. Stop
    being stupid.

    And I've read the report by the Prince George Police Department that
    lists his supposed signs of being in a gang...

    ...and that it doesn't list tattoos as one of them.

    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to nuh-uh@nope.com on Fri Apr 25 00:49:04 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <vudubn$240aq$4@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-24 10:51, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudsqf$1vu9u$6@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:18, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 20:48:33 -0700, Alan says...

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply
    put what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    "They" did, you stupid fuck.

    Nope.


    A close look at the photo shows obvious signs that the letters are,
    in fact, intentionally added LABELS applied to explain the symbols
    confirmed in other photos of Abrego Garcia's left hand.

    Nope.

    and away he runs.

    Someone made an empty claim and I deny its truth.

    How is that running away?

    :-)

    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to invalid@none.com on Fri Apr 25 00:51:29 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <MPG.427431a6ee630fb898a03a@usnews.blocknews.net>,
    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote:
    In article <vudsrs$1vu9u$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:18, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 20:51:32 -0700, Alan says...

    ...and congress is controlled by Trump sycophants

    So?

    Congress has NEVER investigated a Democrat, when Congress was
    controlled by Democrats with a Democrat President.

    Reach, brother-fucker... REACH!
    You're the one reaching, PusseyBoi.

    Congress has called for an investigation by the IG of the DoD.

    So? The loony left will be doing that shit for the next 3
    1/2 years. Anything to disrupt.

    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to invalid@none.com on Fri Apr 25 00:52:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <MPG.427432ff34132ab498a03e@usnews.blocknews.net>,
    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote:
    In article <vuduir$240aq$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-24 10:50, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <vudric$1vu9u$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-04-23 20:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:45:04 -0700, Alan says...

    The reports

    No.

    They were hearsay.

    The "report" that claimed that Abrego Garcia was double hearsay

    From two JUDGES, not anonymous sources.
    Nope. The reports were presented TO judges.

    Judges don't issue reports in cases like this: they make RULINGS.

    Those rulings are based on testimony and evidence presented, and hearsay >> >> is typically not allowed.

    ell it was allowed so I guess it wasn't "hearsay".

    Nope. That's not how reality works.

    So if it was then why did they allow it?


    You really don't understand how the judicial process works, do you?

    Like the judge that had gang members living with him?

    1. Illegal immigrant, not gang member.

    Gang member with weapons.

    2. That that person listed that as his address, doesn't mean it was.

    He was living there. Proof that some judges are in bed
    with the cartel.



    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to katt@gmail.com on Fri Apr 25 00:55:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <MPG.42745b56f7d5327998bc0d@news.eternal-september.org>,
    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 10:13:02 -0700, Alan says...

    Andy Ngo found Abrego Garcia's wife covered up with hearts on his
    knuckles his tattoos of Marijuana "M" a Smiley "S" and the #s 1 and
    3-MS-13-if they were OK why cover them up?

    Because that's where her heart is in the photo?

    You are a fucking idiot.

    1) the picture was taken in front of a mirror.

    2) and BECAUSE the picture is reversed... aside from human hearts being >mostly centered in the body and only SLIGHTLY to the
    left, the red hearts are covering her RIGHT breast, NOT her heart, and >Garcia's finger tattoos, you fucking dork.

    Even if the picture wasn't reversed, those hearts would be no where NEAR
    her heart. But since the pic IS reversed, it's OBVIOUS
    she's covering his finger tattoos.

    3) The illegal's tattoos are on his LEFT arm, you fucking moronic rich boy.

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1913308669883854848/vid/avc1/720x1280/Xfq8IrgY0gO-2w8W.mp4?tag=16

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Go3zUkQX0AAgHvq?format=jpg&name=large

    God DAMN you are an idiot.

    ===============================================================================

    "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition

    All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

    "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a
    person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike
    of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

    Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in
    the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into
    three distinct phases or stages:

    "In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of
    proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm,
    as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."

    "The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's >vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting
    solely of hyperbole."

    "As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish
    fantasy from reality."

    The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the
    knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything
    Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever
    made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something
    nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one.
    thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received
    positively by TDSers.

    The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the
    early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was
    a punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.

    Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first >coined by the late conservative columnist Charles
    Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was
    "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people
    in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence
    of George W. Bush."

    What does this have to do with Canadian Politics?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to katt@gmail.com on Fri Apr 25 12:48:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    In article <MPG.4274dc80fbf02ceb98bc23@news.eternal-september.org>,
    AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 20:48:33 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-04-23 20:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:48:24 -0700, Alan says...

    The tats on his fingers and the judges and associations of
    his.

    The photo Trump showed was altered to include "M S 1 3"...

    <https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/22/abrego-garcia-finger-tattoos-trump/>

    <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1913358867708493982/photo/1>

    There's Donald's photo... ...including obviously faked "tattoos".

    You stupid fuck... they didn't "fake" the tattoos. They simply put
    what the tattoos meant.

    Nope. If they'd done that, they would have SAID that.

    It's IN the picture, you stupid fuck.

    Everybody knows that what Trump held up wasn't what Garcia has on his >fingers. It was NOTATION, stupid.

    the act, process, method, or an instance of representing by a system or
    set of marks, signs, figures, or characters

    God DAMN you're stupid.

    ===============================================================================

    "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition

    All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

    "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a
    person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike
    of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

    Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in
    the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into
    three distinct phases or stages:

    "In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of
    proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm,
    as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."

    "The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's >vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting
    solely of hyperbole."

    "As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish
    fantasy from reality."

    The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the
    knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything
    Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever
    made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something
    nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one.
    thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received
    positively by TDSers.

    The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the
    early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was
    a punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.

    Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first >coined by the late conservative columnist Charles
    Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was
    "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people
    in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence
    of George W. Bush."

    What does this have to do with Canadian politics?

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