• Unpleasant Sign - More Grocery Shoppers Buying on CREDIT

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 28 23:55:23 2025
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/article-14656883/americans-buy-pay-later-groceries.html

    A quarter of American adults are using 'buy now, pay later'
    services for grocery shopping, according to a disturbing new
    poll that suggests a recession is looming.

    The figure is up sharply from the 14 percent of adults aged
    18 to 79 asked the same question in 2024 and the 21 percent
    who admitted using credit for groceries in 2023.

    A survey of 2,000 adults by loan company Lending Tree also
    discovered that 41 percent of people who used buy now, pay
    later for groceries had made a payment deadline - seven
    percent more than the year before.

    The terrifying data, first reported by CNBC, points to
    impending economic doom as millions of ordinary Americans
    buckle under the weight of soaring grocery prices, with
    inflation still untamed.

    . . .

    Credit purchases are OK for *some* stuff - but
    for FOOD ? Not a great sign.

    Oh, and if you want a decent credit rating always
    pay off yer cards and such in full. Alas fewer
    seem able to do that these days, instead are
    racking up Y2K level debts. Remember those days ?
    Every braggart had a dozen cards in his wallet
    and LOVED to flash 'em in everyone's faces.
    Got mortgages for mini-mansions too, on a
    laborers salary. Credit let you PLAY at being
    rich ... until play-time was over .......

    Most now live in roach-infested mobile homes,
    or under a bridge .........

    In any case, Trump got rid of ONE kind of
    inflation and has, at least medium-term,
    replaced it with ANOTHER. Sorry, the world
    doesn't jump every time the USA barks
    anymore. The tariff stuff should have been
    phased-in over a few YEARS instead. Now,
    politically ugly to back-track. Trump may
    not CARE however.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 28 23:23:23 2025
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    c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/article-14656883/americans-buy-pay-later-groceries.html
    A quarter of American adults are using 'buy now, pay later'
    services for grocery shopping, according to a disturbing new
    poll that suggests a recession is looming.

    The figure is up sharply from the 14 percent of adults aged
    18 to 79 asked the same question in 2024 and the 21 percent
    who admitted using credit for groceries in 2023.

    A survey of 2,000 adults by loan company Lending Tree also
    discovered that 41 percent of people who used buy now, pay
    later for groceries had made a payment deadline - seven
    percent more than the year before.

    The terrifying data, first reported by CNBC, points to
    impending economic doom as millions of ordinary Americans
    buckle under the weight of soaring grocery prices, with
    inflation still untamed.

      Credit purchases are OK for *some* stuff - but
      for FOOD ? Not a great sign.

    No kidding.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to c186282@nnada.net on Tue Apr 29 07:31:15 2025
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    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 23:55:23 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/article-14656883/americans-buy-pay-later-groceries.html

    A quarter of American adults are using 'buy now, pay later'
    services for grocery shopping, according to a disturbing new
    poll that suggests a recession is looming.

    The figure is up sharply from the 14 percent of adults aged
    18 to 79 asked the same question in 2024 and the 21 percent
    who admitted using credit for groceries in 2023.

    A survey of 2,000 adults by loan company Lending Tree also
    discovered that 41 percent of people who used buy now, pay
    later for groceries had made a payment deadline - seven
    percent more than the year before.

    The terrifying data, first reported by CNBC, points to
    impending economic doom as millions of ordinary Americans
    buckle under the weight of soaring grocery prices, with
    inflation still untamed.

    . . .

    Credit purchases are OK for *some* stuff - but
    for FOOD ? Not a great sign.

    Oh, and if you want a decent credit rating always
    pay off yer cards and such in full. Alas fewer
    seem able to do that these days, instead are
    racking up Y2K level debts. Remember those days ?
    Every braggart had a dozen cards in his wallet
    and LOVED to flash 'em in everyone's faces.
    Got mortgages for mini-mansions too, on a
    laborers salary. Credit let you PLAY at being
    rich ... until play-time was over .......

    Most now live in roach-infested mobile homes,
    or under a bridge .........

    In any case, Trump got rid of ONE kind of
    inflation and has, at least medium-term,
    replaced it with ANOTHER. Sorry, the world
    doesn't jump every time the USA barks
    anymore. The tariff stuff should have been
    phased-in over a few YEARS instead. Now,
    politically ugly to back-track. Trump may
    not CARE however.

    "Soaring prices".

    Please cite those "soaring prices" since January.

    Your story is garbage.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Apr 29 16:06:20 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 29/4/25 8:24, Governor Swill wrote:
    People are set in their tastes. They want what they want. They don't
    know how to cook, only how to follow directions on a package. This is expensive. Buying basic ingredients and cooking is beyond them.

    Diced celery, broccoli stems, ginger root, cayenne pepper,
    mushroom stems, water. Stew in pot in for an hour. Drain the
    liquid, add soy sauce.

    Slice beef into thin strips. Add sesame oil to wok. Add the beef,
    stirring rapidly. The water will boil out of beef. Once it turns
    a pretty brown, add the liquid. When the liquid is nearly boiled
    off, add broccoli spears, mushroom caps, snow peas, sliced water
    chestnuts, etc. Stir frequently until the water from the veggies
    boils off. Serve on white rice.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Tue Apr 29 23:43:06 2025
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    On 4/29/25 7:06 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 29/4/25 8:24, Governor Swill wrote:
    People are set in their tastes.  They want what they want.  They don't
    know how to cook, only how to follow directions on a package.  This is
    expensive.  Buying basic ingredients and cooking is beyond them.

    Diced celery, broccoli stems, ginger root, cayenne pepper, mushroom
    stems, water. Stew in pot in for an hour. Drain the liquid, add soy sauce.

    Slice beef into thin strips. Add sesame oil to wok. Add the beef,
    stirring rapidly. The water will boil out of beef. Once it turns a
    pretty brown, add the liquid. When the liquid is nearly boiled off, add broccoli spears, mushroom caps, snow peas, sliced water chestnuts, etc.
    Stir frequently until the water from the veggies boils off. Serve on
    white rice.

    Yes, there are MANY ways to get by just fine
    with US-grown foods.

    Consumers aren't USED to this - but I think
    they're gonna LEARN real quick. Life does not
    begin and end with Grey Poupon and Mex avocado.

    The COFFEE thing may be the worst bit. Except
    for Hawaii, NONE of the USA is suitable for
    growing good coffee. Yea yea, Florida is warm
    enough - but it's mostly SAND soil. NOT what's
    needed for decent coffee. Hydroponics CAN fill
    in, a LITTLE, but ......

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Wed Apr 30 12:01:01 2025
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    Siri Cruz wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 29/4/25 8:24, Governor Swill wrote:
    People are set in their tastes. They want what they want. They don't
    know how to cook, only how to follow directions on a package. This is
    expensive. Buying basic ingredients and cooking is beyond them.

    Diced celery, broccoli stems, ginger root, cayenne pepper,
    mushroom stems, water. Stew in pot in for an hour. Drain the
    liquid, add soy sauce.

    Slice beef into thin strips. Add sesame oil to wok. Add the beef,
    stirring rapidly. The water will boil out of beef. Once it turns
    a pretty brown, add the liquid. When the liquid is nearly boiled
    off, add broccoli spears, mushroom caps, snow peas, sliced water
    chestnuts, etc. Stir frequently until the water from the veggies
    boils off. Serve on white rice.

    Even easier: Eat little else but potatoes. It worked great for Ireland.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Wed Apr 30 14:58:26 2025
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    On 30/4/25 9:01, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Siri Cruz wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 29/4/25 8:24, Governor Swill wrote:
    People are set in their tastes. They want what they want. They don't
    know how to cook, only how to follow directions on a package. This is
    expensive. Buying basic ingredients and cooking is beyond them.

    Diced celery, broccoli stems, ginger root, cayenne pepper,
    mushroom stems, water. Stew in pot in for an hour. Drain the
    liquid, add soy sauce.

    Slice beef into thin strips. Add sesame oil to wok. Add the beef,
    stirring rapidly. The water will boil out of beef. Once it turns
    a pretty brown, add the liquid. When the liquid is nearly boiled
    off, add broccoli spears, mushroom caps, snow peas, sliced water
    chestnuts, etc. Stir frequently until the water from the veggies
    boils off. Serve on white rice.

    Even easier: Eat little else but potatoes. It worked great for Ireland.


    Wet thoroughly and wrap very tightly in foil. Back a while. The
    steam pressure turns the baked potato into a mashed potato.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 1 09:32:34 2025
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    On 4/29/25 23:43, c186282 wrote:
    On 4/29/25 7:06 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 29/4/25 8:24, Governor Swill wrote:
    People are set in their tastes.  They want what they want.  They don't >>> know how to cook, only how to follow directions on a package.  This is
    expensive.  Buying basic ingredients and cooking is beyond them.

    Diced celery, broccoli stems, ginger root, cayenne pepper, mushroom
    stems, water. Stew in pot in for an hour. Drain the liquid, add soy
    sauce.

    Slice beef into thin strips. Add sesame oil to wok. Add the beef,
    stirring rapidly. The water will boil out of beef. Once it turns a
    pretty brown, add the liquid. When the liquid is nearly boiled off,
    add broccoli spears, mushroom caps, snow peas, sliced water chestnuts,
    etc. Stir frequently until the water from the veggies boils off. Serve
    on white rice.

      Yes, there are MANY ways to get by just fine
      with US-grown foods.

      Consumers aren't USED to this - but I think
      they're gonna LEARN real quick. Life does not
      begin and end with Grey Poupon and Mex avocado.

      The COFFEE thing may be the worst bit. Except
      for Hawaii, NONE of the USA is suitable for
      growing good coffee. Yea yea, Florida is warm
      enough - but it's mostly SAND soil. NOT what's
      needed for decent coffee. Hydroponics CAN fill
      in, a LITTLE, but ......

    Even if we had suitable land (needs tropics & altitude, which FL lacks),
    it still requires 3+ years to grow a coffee plant to enough maturity for
    it to start to make beans.

    Tea can be grown in some parts of the US, but takes 3-4 years to mature
    enough to begin harvesting.

    In the meantime, coffee's may not even the worst bit, because guess
    where cacao grows to make chocolate? There are portions of HI and FL
    where it can be grown (less restrictive than coffee), it takes 5 years
    before starting to produce.

    And none of it would end up being as cheap as today's products. If we
    use Kona coffee as a benchmark, figure retail prices at 5x-12x higher.


    -hh

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Thu May 1 11:32:45 2025
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    Siri Cruz wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 30/4/25 9:01, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Siri Cruz wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 29/4/25 8:24, Governor Swill wrote:
    People are set in their tastes. They want what they want. They don't >>>> know how to cook, only how to follow directions on a package. This is >>>> expensive. Buying basic ingredients and cooking is beyond them.

    Diced celery, broccoli stems, ginger root, cayenne pepper,
    mushroom stems, water. Stew in pot in for an hour. Drain the
    liquid, add soy sauce.

    Slice beef into thin strips. Add sesame oil to wok. Add the beef,
    stirring rapidly. The water will boil out of beef. Once it turns
    a pretty brown, add the liquid. When the liquid is nearly boiled
    off, add broccoli spears, mushroom caps, snow peas, sliced water
    chestnuts, etc. Stir frequently until the water from the veggies
    boils off. Serve on white rice.

    Even easier: Eat little else but potatoes. It worked great for Ireland.

    Wet thoroughly and wrap very tightly in foil. Back a while. The
    steam pressure turns the baked potato into a mashed potato.

    I see that Kroger has "Grill Ready" potatoes, already foil-wrapped.

    --
    Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.
    -- motto of the Christopher Society

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu May 1 18:19:47 2025
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    On 1/5/25 5:34, Governor Swill wrote:
    Consumers aren't USED to this - but I think
    they're gonna LEARN real quick. Life does not
    begin and end with Grey Poupon and Mex avocado.
    So we have the freedom to eat anything we like of which you approve?


    Real American MEN do not eat quinoa.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri May 2 04:01:30 2025
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    On 5/1/25 11:32 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Siri Cruz wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 30/4/25 9:01, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Siri Cruz wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 29/4/25 8:24, Governor Swill wrote:
    People are set in their tastes. They want what they want. They don't >>>>> know how to cook, only how to follow directions on a package. This is >>>>> expensive. Buying basic ingredients and cooking is beyond them.

    Diced celery, broccoli stems, ginger root, cayenne pepper,
    mushroom stems, water. Stew in pot in for an hour. Drain the
    liquid, add soy sauce.

    Slice beef into thin strips. Add sesame oil to wok. Add the beef,
    stirring rapidly. The water will boil out of beef. Once it turns
    a pretty brown, add the liquid. When the liquid is nearly boiled
    off, add broccoli spears, mushroom caps, snow peas, sliced water
    chestnuts, etc. Stir frequently until the water from the veggies
    boils off. Serve on white rice.

    Even easier: Eat little else but potatoes. It worked great for Ireland.

    Wet thoroughly and wrap very tightly in foil. Back a while. The
    steam pressure turns the baked potato into a mashed potato.

    I see that Kroger has "Grill Ready" potatoes, already foil-wrapped.


    Yikes ! Not only pure carbs but also sounds like
    a true BacteriaPalooza .......

    Oh, and the acidity will give ya a huge dose
    of aluminum.

    If you don't want to be one of those people who can
    literally be rolled down a hill, I'd strongly suggest
    staying AWAY from taters and pretty much all breads
    and pastas. Been doing that for over half a dozen
    years now, lost 50 lbs - sugar level and BP went WAY
    down too. Saw doc the other day, BP 109/70 via an
    expensive machine - and I'm in my late 60s and a
    longtime geek desk jockey.

    A couple years ago there were news stories from a little
    town (W.Virginia?) where storms had washed out the roads.
    Video from a big town meeting - everybody freaking about
    the supply cut-off. Almost EVERYONE there was ROUND -
    like roll-down-the-hill round. Men, women, kids. The
    thought of a nacho shortage - biblical disaster !!!

    The American obsession with mega-carbs dipped in nasty
    oils ... NOT great. Do NOT rec forbidding - the whole
    Free Country paradigm - but VERY plain warnings from
    State and health agencies and alts VERY much recommended.
    Fuck tobacco - the FOOD is a MUCH WORSE health problem.
    Cheezy-Greasy-Salty is more addictive than heroin.

    Smarter eating beats burning out your innards with
    Ozempic and related - serious effects now becoming
    too hard to ignore.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri May 2 22:03:55 2025
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    On 5/1/25 8:34 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 23:43:06 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    Yes, there are MANY ways to get by just fine
    with US-grown foods.

    <laughs and points> Yah, we could go hungry.

    Consumers aren't USED to this - but I think
    they're gonna LEARN real quick. Life does not
    begin and end with Grey Poupon and Mex avocado.

    So we have the freedom to eat anything we like of which you approve?


    Yep ...

    There is no "Right To Cheap Mexican Avocados".

    Eat what's there to eat. Plenty enough and
    pretty tasty overall.

    And if you HAVE to have those avocados - well -
    cough up the extra $$$. They're not forbidden.
    The avocado police aren't gonna be body-searching
    you in the market parking lot.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 2 20:43:37 2025
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    On 2/5/25 19:03, c186282 wrote:
    There is no "Right To Cheap Mexican Avocados".

    And no right to cheap American wheat.

    Eat what's there to eat. Plenty enough and
    pretty tasty overall.

    Due to farm labour shortage, there will be plenty nothing.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Sun May 4 01:52:31 2025
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    On 5/3/25 2:35 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 2/5/25 19:03, c186282 wrote:
       There is no "Right To Cheap Mexican Avocados".

    And no right to cheap American wheat.

       Eat what's there to eat. Plenty enough and
       pretty tasty overall.

    Due to farm labour shortage, there will be plenty nothing.

    There will be PLENTY.

    Oh, note that LEGIT work visas remain
    easy to get.

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