useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
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As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.
Funny that conservative politicians
all send THEIR darlings to college. And
elite private colleges at that.
Perhaps they know the limits of a
high school education better than you?
People with educations mostly vote Democrats unless they're Jews with
useless law degrees
jojo wrote:
Leper wrote:
useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.
Funny that conservative politicians
all send THEIR darlings to college. And
elite private colleges at that.
Perhaps they know the limits of a
high school education better than you?
People with educations mostly vote Democrats unless they're
Jews with
useless law degrees
the most useless degree is liberal arts. anyway, college only
makes sense if you want to get into a stem career or medicine
or law. for everything else its a giant waste of money and a
useless credential.
i'm glad i went
jojo wrote:
% wrote:
jojo wrote:
Leper wrote:
useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and
enter
adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.
Funny that conservative politicians
all send THEIR darlings to college. And
elite private colleges at that.
Perhaps they know the limits of a
high school education better than you?
People with educations mostly vote Democrats unless they're
Jews with
useless law degrees
the most useless degree is liberal arts. anyway, college only
makes sense if you want to get into a stem career or medicine
or law. for everything else its a giant waste of money and a
useless credential.
i'm glad i went
i could go, but dont want to.
no you can't you don't have the philosophy for college
jojo wrote:
% wrote:
jojo wrote:
% wrote:
jojo wrote:
Leper wrote:
useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and
enter
adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.
Funny that conservative politicians
all send THEIR darlings to college. And
elite private colleges at that.
Perhaps they know the limits of a
high school education better than you?
People with educations mostly vote Democrats unless
they're Jews with
useless law degrees
the most useless degree is liberal arts. anyway, college
only makes sense if you want to get into a stem career or
medicine or law. for everything else its a giant waste of
money and a useless credential.
i'm glad i went
i could go, but dont want to.
no you can't you don't have the philosophy for college
yeah i guess, i barely made it through high school.
i can see that
jojo wrote:
% wrote:
jojo wrote:
% wrote:
jojo wrote:
% wrote:
jojo wrote:
Leper wrote:
useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school
and enter
adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college
degrees.
Funny that conservative politicians
all send THEIR darlings to college. And
elite private colleges at that.
Perhaps they know the limits of a
high school education better than you?
People with educations mostly vote Democrats unless
they're Jews with
useless law degrees
the most useless degree is liberal arts. anyway, college
only makes sense if you want to get into a stem career or
medicine or law. for everything else its a giant waste of
money and a useless credential.
i'm glad i went
i could go, but dont want to.
no you can't you don't have the philosophy for college
yeah i guess, i barely made it through high school.
i can see that
what do people like me usually do? its 2025, i am looking
forward to AI and robotics creating a HUGE useless class just
like me.
then i wont be so alone and judged.
you'll be part of a clan of 1 mg ants
useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.
Funny that conservative politicians
all send THEIR darlings to college.
On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter
adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.
Funny that conservative politicians
all send THEIR darlings to college. And
elite private colleges at that.
Perhaps they know the limits of a
high school education better than you?
Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma that
higher education is the only way to go. There are plenty high school graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures. I have
yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan debt forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind of thing.
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On 5/1/2025 11:26 PM, useapen wrote:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and
No one "graduates high school." In this context, it is an intransitive
verb that requires a preposition: "As members of Gen Z continue to
graduate *from* high school..."
Why are all right-wingnuts in Usenet functionally illiterate?
On 5/2/2025 8:14 AM, J Carlson wrote:
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On 5/1/2025 11:26 PM, useapen wrote:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and
No one "graduates high school." In this context, it is an intransitive
verb that requires a preposition: "As members of Gen Z continue to
graduate *from* high school..."
If you want to be that anal about it,
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useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
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As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter >>>>>>>> adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.
Funny that conservative politicians
all send THEIR darlings to college. And
elite private colleges at that.
Perhaps they know the limits of a
high school education better than you?
Well?
Limits? Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma
that higher education is the only way to go.
If a college degree isn't important
why do all conservative politicians have
one?
Well?
Who ever said it wasn't important?
Just answer the question.
Sure, once you answer mine.
I asked first.
If I want to be a physician, it's
important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.
Plumbers shouldn't be educated? Why?
I never said they shouldn't be educated. Nevertheless, your premise is
faulty. One doesn't necessarily need a college degree to be educated.
Then why do all conservative politicians
get a college education? AND make sure their
children get one.....
There are plenty high school
graduates who are electricians, plumbers, etc. making 6-figures.
Wealth is not the goal of education.
I never said anything about wealth.
Your quote:
"....making 6-figures"
Right. I never said anything about wealth. That's salary.
thing.
I have
yet to hear even one of them whining about getting student loan
debt forgiveness. You should give Mike Rowe a listen on this kind
of
Mike Rowe?
Yes, Mike Rowe.
College graduate Mike Rowe?
Yes, college graduate, Mike Rowe.
HE is your example of why kids
shouldn't go to college?
He is the best example.
Of what?
Of negating the perception that the only way to 'make it' is by
getting a college degree.
What do you mean by "make it"?
There is no one more on the forefront of
articulating the value of the trades, and that they can be tickets to
a very good living.
Rowe preaches the value of hard
work, not ignorance. Even he got a college
degree.
Furthermore, he does quite a bit to dispell theWhat "stigma"?
stigma of foregoing a college degree. Go read some of this -
https://mikeroweworks.org/. It's fantastic what he's doing.
On 5/2/2025 3:32 PM, Club Foote wrote:
On 5/2/2025 8:14 AM, J Carlson wrote:
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On 5/1/2025 11:26 PM, useapen wrote:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and
No one "graduates high school." In this context, it is an intransitive
verb that requires a preposition: "As members of Gen Z continue to
graduate *from* high school..."
If you want to be that anal about it,
Jon Ball loves all things anal.
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees.
That's in part because of the cost of getting a bachelor's degree, they
tell CNBC Make It. The annual cost of attending a four-year, in-state
public college increased by about 30% between 2011 and 2023, according to Make It calculations based on data from the Education Data Initiative, and went up by 42% at private, nonprofit four-year colleges.
"There are about 2 million fewer students in a traditional four-year university now than in 2011," says Nich Tremper, senior economist at
payroll and benefits platform Gusto.
Instead, many young peopleare entering skilled trades like construction, plumbing, electrical contracting and automotive repair. In the first
quarter of 2024, Gen Z made up 18% of the workforce, according to the Department of Labor, but 18- to 25-year-olds made up nearly 25% of all new hires in skilled trade industries that year, according to Gusto.
Here's how Gen Zers are finding their place in blue collar work and what could be in store for them given the Trump administration's latest
tariffs.
'I'm not going to go stop my business and pay for college'
Morgan Bradbury, 21, first tried welding in high school. She loved it.
"I just immediately was mesmerized by the fact that I could have the
ability to build things with my own hands," she says. After graduating
high school, Bradbury took a nine-month welding certification course at Universal Technical Institute for about $21,000.
She got a job at military and information security company BAE Systems
before even completing her course with a starting salary of about $57,000
per year. She's now a second-class welder on U.S. Navy ships in Norfolk, Virginia.
Chase Gallagher, 24, began landscaping when he was just 12 or 13, he says.
He registered his landscaping company, CMG Landscaping, in 2015. By 18, he had as many as 82 clients. "I just kind of looked at the numbers and said, 'Listen, I'm not going to go stop my business and pay for college,'" he
says.
In 2024, Gallagher's business brought in $1,085,000 in sales. He earned
just under $500,000 through his salary and his owner share of the
business.
The average starting salary for workers in the skilled trades is about $23 per hour, according to Gusto. Electricians make a median annual salary of $62,350 per year, plumbers make a median of $62,970 per year and
construction workers make a median of $46,050 per year, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Despite the high costs of education, wages for college graduates still
tend to be higher. The median wage for college graduates in 2024 was
$80,000, according to recent data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New
York. College graduates also get a median 12.5% return on their
investment.
'They're adding to the dynamism of the economy'
President Donald Trump's latest tariffs might present some challenges for
Gen Zers opting into blue collar work, says Tremper, like those opting
into manufacturing or construction, for example.
Trump has imposed a 10% tariff on "all countries," according to the White House, plus steeper tariffs on various products from Mexico and Canada. Canadian soft lumber, used in home construction, for example, currently
has a tariff of 14.54%.
"We definitely need to think that tariffs on soft lumber coming into the country will hurt opportunities for these people to work and to grow their skills," Tremper says, adding that "increased costs on home building can
lead to lower demand, which will limit the amount of construction trades
jobs available."
Still, "in recent months, job security has been stronger in the trades
than in many traditional white collar jobs," Tremper says. That's
according to BLS data measuring termination rates, or people who left
their jobs because of layoffs and discharges.
"Industries like construction, manufacturing, and trade, transportation,
and utilities have had lower termination rates than sectors where many
white collar workers are concentrated, like professional and business services," he says.
And with Baby Boomers slowly exiting the workforce, more opportunities
could open up. "As these folks age out," says Tremper, "Gen Z workers are going to be able to move into a space where they're building their own businesses, adding to the dynamism of the economy and really providing a
lot more opportunity for themselves financially."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/gen-z-workers-increasingly-opt- out-of-college-and-into-the-trades-there-are-about-2-million-fewer- students-says-expert/ar-AA1DxOzU
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On 5/2/2025 9:13 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in
news:XnsB2D2EE8B125CEBX@135.181.20.170:
As members of Gen Z continue to graduate high school and enter >>>>>>>>>> adulthood, many elect to forgo traditional college degrees. >>>>>>>>>>
Funny that conservative politicians
all send THEIR darlings to college. And
elite private colleges at that.
Perhaps they know the limits of a
high school education better than you?
Well?
Limits?
Well?
Perhaps they are morons who perpetuate a stupid stigma
that higher education is the only way to go.
If a college degree isn't important
why do all conservative politicians have
one?
Well?
Well, what?
Who ever said it wasn't important?
Just answer the question.
Sure, once you answer mine.
I asked first.
No, I asked first. Go back and review.
If I want to be a physician, it's
important. If I want to be a plumber, it's not.
Plumbers shouldn't be educated? Why?
I never said they shouldn't be educated. Nevertheless, your premise
faulty. One doesn't necessarily need a college degree to be educated.
Then why do all conservative politicians
get a college education? AND make sure their
children get one.....
They don't.
Name a Republican Congressman or governor
without a college degree.
On Mon, 5 May 2025 08:27:06 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Lauren Bobert, Jerry Carl, Madison Cawthorn, Matt Rosendale, Steve
King, Doc Hastings, Lloyd Smucker, Markwayne Mullin, Rand Paul (no >>undergrad degree).
Evidence enough that education should be a requirement to public
office.
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