• How Trump can turn the tables on the pollsters

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    President Trump has a problem with pollsters. But rather than berate them
    as “negative criminals” and call for their investigation, the president
    should pursue a more rational, record-based case against them — if, that
    is, he is able to tone down the hyperbole and focus on the facts.

    Trump assailed pollsters in bombastic terms following the release of
    surveys indicating his approval rating has plunged to levels seldom
    matched by a U.S. president three months into his term. Trump specifically attacked the New York Times-Siena College poll, which had reported that,
    by 54 percent to 42 percent, respondents disapprove of the president’s “handling” of his job. He also singled out for scorn the results reported
    in a Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos survey that showed only 39 percent of respondents approve of his performance.

    There were plenty of other unfavorable assessments, too, released to mark
    the passing of 100 days of Trump’s second term.

    CNN reported the president’s approval rating was underwater, at 41 percent
    to 59 percent disapproval, and declared the result “the lowest for any
    newly elected president at 100 days dating back at least to Dwight
    Eisenhower — including Trump’s own first term.”

    And a Marist College survey, conducted for PBS and NPR, reported 45
    percent of respondents said Trump deserves an “F” for his job performance
    so far. About half that number (23 percent) said Trump merits an “A.” Just
    42 percent overall approve of Trump’s job performance, according to
    Marist.

    Were he to choose a more focused, accountability-driven response, Trump
    could readily point to flawed poll results reported in the 2024
    presidential campaign. Given that many of them erred in estimating the
    election outcome, he could pose a simple question: What makes them
    believable now?

    Trump, in short, could argue pollsters have persistent credibility
    problems and point to vulnerabilities exposed in recent elections.

    Traditionally, pre-election polls have been regarded as representing what George Gallup, a founding figure of survey research, called an “acid test”
    of the soundness of polling techniques. “The only justification of an
    election forecast,” Gallup once declared, “is to test polling methods.”

    The late Philip Meyer, a well-regarded journalist, educator and past
    president of the American Association for Public Opinion Research,
    essentially agreed with Gallup’s characterization, noting: “A poll is an estimating device while an election is an exact measurement of the real
    world. By holding the device against the reality, we can learn how well
    the device is working.”

    The reality revealed in the three most recent U.S. presidential elections
    was that pollsters were unable to measure with accuracy Trump’s popular backing. They collectively understated support for Trump in each election, despite having made methodological adjustments following the 2016 and 2020 campaigns — adjustments specifically intended to measure Trump’s popular backing more accurately.

    Just one pollster — AtlasIntel, a Brazilian firm — accurately projected
    Trump’s winning all seven states where the election turned in 2024. Those
    swing states were Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

    The final New York Times-Siena College pre-election poll showed Trump
    ahead in just one swing state, Arizona. His Democratic rival, Kamala
    Harris, led in four of those states, and the race was tied in the other
    two. Some of the errors were not close: The Times-Siena poll missed the
    final outcome in North Carolina by 5.3 points and in Nevada by 6.1 points.

    The Washington Post developed a poll-based election model which, as the
    2024 campaign closed, showed Harris leading narrowly in four swing states
    and holding a lead of 2 points nationally. The Post claimed its model
    “only includes polls that are transparent about how they are conducted …
    and use methods that have demonstrated accuracy.”

    CNN’s polling, which is conducted by the SSRS research firm in suburban Philadelphia, was especially off-target. Its final pre-election polling
    gave Harris leads of 6 percentage points in Wisconsin and 5 points in
    Michigan — polling errors of nearly 7 points and 6.5 points, respectively. CNN’s polling showed Harris carrying four swing states: Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and North Carolina. Had she won them, Harris would have been
    elected president.

    CNN’s performance was especially striking because the network had
    announced modifications to its polling methods following the 2020
    campaign. That year, CNN’s final poll erroneously indicated Joe Biden led
    Trump by 12 percentage points. Biden won that election by just 4.5 points.

    In 2024, the Marist/PBS/NPR poll estimated Harris led Trump by 4
    percentage points at the end of the campaign. Trump won the popular vote
    by 1.5 points — which meant the Marist poll was off by 5.5 points.
    According to data compiled by RealClearPolitics, no national pollster in
    2024 misfired as badly as Marist.

    And no statewide poll in 2024 was more dramatically in error than the
    once-well regarded Iowa Poll, conducted by J. Ann Selzer for the Des
    Moines Register newspaper. Selzer’s final pre-election poll reported that Harris was ahead by 3 points in what has become a decidedly Republican
    state — a finding enthusiastically embraced by Trump foes, as it suggested Harris was on her way to the Oval Office.

    Trump went on to win Iowa by 13 points, implying a 16-point error for
    Selzer’s poll.

    Before taking office, Trump sued the Iowa Poll for fraud, claiming the erroneous poll “was no ‘miss’ but rather an attempt to influence the
    outcome of the 2024 presidential election” by projecting “a false
    narrative of inevitability” about Harris’s candidacy.

    Instead of suing and haranguing pollsters, Trump might well turn survey
    results back on them. For example, a Marist survey last year reported that
    61 percent of respondents said they had little or no trust in polls; 38
    percent claimed to have a great deal or a “good amount” of confidence in
    them. It would not be too outlandish to argue that pollsters’ approval
    ratings, at least according to Marist, are worse than Trump’s.

    Or, the president might point to a recent Emerson College poll, which
    indicated that voters, by a margin of 48 percent to 47 percent, would
    choose Trump over Harris in a rematch.

    The data are plentiful for a dispassionate, critical assessment of recent polling performance. Of course, dispassionate assessment has never been
    Trump’s favored approach.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5285860-trump-poll-accuracy-attack/

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