Trump seizes on videos of a fringe South African politician as evidence of threats to white farmers
Trump seizes on videos of a fringe South African politician as evidence of threats to white farmers
Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval Office meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of Ramaphosas party,
is not part of the coalition that governs the country.
Updated 10 hrs ago
May 21, 2025
<snip>
President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense words
in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the systematic killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video of white
crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were killed.
Marmalade King wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
Trump seizes on videos of a fringe South African politician as evidence of >> threats to white farmers
Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval Office
meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of Ramaphosas party,
is not part of the coalition that governs the country.
Updated 10 hrs ago
May 21, 2025
<snip>
President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense words
in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the systematic >> killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video of white
crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0eZAdbcO94
'I Don't Have Plane To Give': South Africa's Ramaphosa Mocks Qatar's Jet
Gift On Trump's Face
:-D
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
Marmalade King wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
Trump seizes on videos of a fringe South African politician as evidence of threats to white farmers
Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval Office meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of Ramaphosas party, is not part of the coalition that governs the country.
Updated 10 hrs ago
May 21, 2025
<snip>
President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense words in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the systematic killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video of white crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0eZAdbcO94
'I Don't Have Plane To Give': South Africa's Ramaphosa Mocks Qatar's Jet
Gift On Trump's Face
:-D
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
Evan Vucci / The Associated Press
By Nicholas Riccardi, Ali Swenson And Mogomotsi Magome The Associated Press
NEW YORK (AP) President Donald Trump confronted South African President Cyril Ramaphosa on Wednesday with claims that white farmers are being targeted and killed in the country.
Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval Office meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of Ramaphosas party,
is not part of the coalition that governs the country and whose own
political movement garnered less than 10% of the vote in last years elections.
President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense words
in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the systematic killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video of white
crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were killed.
The Trump administration has used the rhetoric of a fringe politician and South Africas endemic violence as justification for allowing white South Africans to apply to become refugees in the United States
Freedom Fighters to argue that South Africa is engaged in genocide against white farmers, a contention that seemed to baffle Malemas main political rival, Ramaphosa, during his Oval Office visit. Ramaphosa repeatedly
stressed that EFF is a small minority party.
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Marmalade King wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
Trump seizes on videos of a fringe South African politician as evidence of
threats to white farmers
Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval Office >> > meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of Ramaphosas party, >> > is not part of the coalition that governs the country.
Updated 10 hrs ago
May 21, 2025
<snip>
President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense words >> > in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the
systematic
killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video of white
crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0eZAdbcO94
'I Don't Have Plane To Give': South Africa's Ramaphosa Mocks Qatar's Jet
Gift On Trump's Face
:-D
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising >> an
experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't
want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Marmalade King wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
Trump seizes on videos of a fringe South African politician as evidence of >>> threats to white farmers
Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval Office >>> meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of Ramaphosas party, >>> is not part of the coalition that governs the country.
Updated 10 hrs ago
May 21, 2025
President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense words >>> in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the systematic >>> killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video of white
crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0eZAdbcO94
'I Don't Have Plane To Give': South Africa's Ramaphosa Mocks Qatar's Jet
Gift On Trump's Face
:-D
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising >> an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of >autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't
want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own >constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of
autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't
want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own
constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy, last I >checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are there because >they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that 'democracy' has >disappeared.
On May 22, 2025 at 6:32:48 AM PDT, "Marmalade King" <x@y.com> wrote:
NEW YORK (AP) President Donald Trump confronted South African President
Cyril Ramaphosa on Wednesday with claims that white farmers are being
targeted and killed in the country.
Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval Office
meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of Ramaphosas party,
is not part of the coalition that governs the country and whose own
political movement garnered less than 10% of the vote in last years
elections.
President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense words
in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the systematic >> killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video of white
crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were killed.
The Trump administration has used the rhetoric of a fringe politician and
South Africas endemic violence as justification for allowing white South
Africans to apply to become refugees in the United States
Fifty-nine people. The same people who had no problem with Biden throwing >open the border and allowing 15 *million* to flood into the country unchecked >and unvetted, breaking the budgets of the major cities, are suddenly running >for the fainting couch over 59 people for no other reason than that they're >white.
On May 22, 2025 at 9:00:45 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Marmalade King wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
Trump seizes on videos of a fringe South African politician as evidence of >>>> threats to white farmers
Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval Office >>>> meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of Ramaphosas party, >>>> is not part of the coalition that governs the country.
Updated 10 hrs ago
May 21, 2025
<snip>
President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense words >>>> in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the
systematic
killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video of white
crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0eZAdbcO94
'I Don't Have Plane To Give': South Africa's Ramaphosa Mocks Qatar's Jet >>> Gift On Trump's Face
:-D
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising >>> an
experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of
autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't
want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own
constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy,
last I
checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are there because they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that 'democracy' has disappeared.
On 2025-05-22 17:12:13 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 9:00:45 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >> wrote:
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising
an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of >>> autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't >>> want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own >>> constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy,
<roll eyes> One of those "America is a republic not a democracy" freaks.
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are there >> because
they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that 'democracy' has >> disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a
ranking of 176 countries.
On May 22, 2025 at 3:59:12 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-22 17:12:13 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 9:00:45 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>> wrote:
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising
an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of >>>> autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't >>>> want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own >>>> constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy,
<roll eyes> One of those "America is a republic not a democracy" freaks.
<burps> Yeah, one of those "let's call things what they actually are" freaks.
The U.S. is much more preferable than a democracy. Democracy as a form of government is only slightly better than a dictatorship. Reduced down to its essentials democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. The sheep isn't gonna like the result of that election even though it was arrived at democratically.
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are there >>> because
they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that 'democracy' has >>> disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a
ranking of 176 countries.
Classified by whom? What are their credentials? What are their biases? Why is their opinion supposed to be considered fact?
On Thu, 22 May 2025 10:35:15 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
The orangutan:
An international embarassment, every fscking day.-
America is the richest, most powerful, most inflential most a
dmired nation that has ever existed in the whole of human history.
Why can't MAGAs be satisfied with that?
On 2025-05-23 02:09:09 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 3:59:12 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >> wrote:
On 2025-05-22 17:12:13 +0000, BTR1701 said:<burps> Yeah, one of those "let's call things what they actually are"
On May 22, 2025 at 9:00:45 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>>> wrote:
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising
an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of >>>>> autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't >>>>> want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own >>>>> constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone >>>>> and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy,
<roll eyes> One of those "America is a republic not a democracy" freaks. >>
freaks.
The U.S. is much more preferable than a democracy. Democracy as a form of >> government is only slightly better than a dictatorship. Reduced down to its >> essentials democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. >> The sheep isn't gonna like the result of that election even though it was >> arrived at democratically.
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are there
because
they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that 'democracy' has
disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a
ranking of 176 countries.
Classified by whom? What are their credentials? What are their biases? Why >> is
their opinion supposed to be considered fact?
See for yourself. And do your own research, I'm not Google.
https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking
On May 23, 2025 at 12:19:07 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-23 02:09:09 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 3:59:12 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>> wrote:
On 2025-05-22 17:12:13 +0000, BTR1701 said:<burps> Yeah, one of those "let's call things what they actually are"
On May 22, 2025 at 9:00:45 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising
an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of
autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't
want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own
constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone >>>>>> and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy,
<roll eyes> One of those "America is a republic not a democracy" freaks. >>>
freaks.
The U.S. is much more preferable than a democracy. Democracy as a form of >>> government is only slightly better than a dictatorship. Reduced down to its
essentials democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
The sheep isn't gonna like the result of that election even though it was >>> arrived at democratically.
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are there
because
they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that 'democracy' has
disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a
ranking of 176 countries.
Classified by whom? What are their credentials? What are their biases? Why
is
their opinion supposed to be considered fact?
See for yourself. And do your own research, I'm not Google.
https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking
Well, if a bunch of leftist academics at Universitat Wurzburg say so, it must be true.
On 5/23/2025 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On May 23, 2025 at 12:19:07 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >> wrote:
On 2025-05-23 02:09:09 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 3:59:12 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>>> wrote:
On 2025-05-22 17:12:13 +0000, BTR1701 said:<burps> Yeah, one of those "let's call things what they actually are"
On May 22, 2025 at 9:00:45 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising
an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of
autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't >>>>>>> want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own
constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone >>>>>>> and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy,
<roll eyes> One of those "America is a republic not a democracy" freaks. >>>>
freaks.
The U.S. is much more preferable than a democracy. Democracy as a form of >>>> government is only slightly better than a dictatorship. Reduced down to its
essentials democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
The sheep isn't gonna like the result of that election even though it was >>>> arrived at democratically.
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are there
because
they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that 'democracy' has
disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a
ranking of 176 countries.
Classified by whom? What are their credentials? What are their biases? Why >>>> is
their opinion supposed to be considered fact?
See for yourself. And do your own research, I'm not Google.
https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking
Well, if a bunch of leftist academics at Universitat Wurzburg say so, it must
be true.
How are they "leftist"?
On 2025-05-23 18:34:51 +0000, moviePig said:
On 5/23/2025 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On May 23, 2025 at 12:19:07 AM PDT, "super70s"
<super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
On 2025-05-23 02:09:09 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 3:59:12 PM PDT, "super70s"
<super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
On 2025-05-22 17:12:13 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 9:00:45 AM PDT, "super70s"
<super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly >>>>>>>>> chastising
an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every >>>>>>>>> fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the
exception of
autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into).
They don't
want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have >>>>>>>> their own
constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office >>>>>>>> alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy,
<roll eyes> One of those "America is a republic not a democracy"
freaks.
<burps> Yeah, one of those "let's call things what they actually are" >>>>> freaks.
The U.S. is much more preferable than a democracy. Democracy as a
form of
government is only slightly better than a dictatorship. Reduced
down to its
essentials democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for
dinner.
The sheep isn't gonna like the result of that election even though
it was
arrived at democratically.
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew >>>>>>> are there
because
they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that
'democracy' has
disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a >>>>>> ranking of 176 countries.
Classified by whom? What are their credentials? What are their
biases? Why
is
their opinion supposed to be considered fact?
See for yourself. And do your own research, I'm not Google.
https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking
Well, if a bunch of leftist academics at Universitat Wurzburg say so,
it must
be true.
How are they "leftist"?
They're serious and scholarly so obviously they can't be rightists.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2025 10:35:15 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
The orangutan:
An international embarassment, every fscking day.-
America is the richest, most powerful, most inflential most a
dmired nation that has ever existed in the whole of human history.
Why can't MAGAs be satisfied with that?
Why do the globalist Deep State mRNA Democrats want to destroy the USA?
pothead wrote:
<crocksnip>
See UK, Germany, France for examples of how to destroy a country.the usa is doing it right
Control.
They want a socialist, 2 class society. The elites and the rest of us.
And had Kamala won the election we would be well on our way towards destruction.
See UK, Germany, France for examples of how to destroy a country.
On Sun, 25 May 2025 11:11:22 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
% wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
pothead wrote:
<crocksnip>
See UK, Germany, France for examples of how to destroy a country.the usa is doing it right
:-D
Good joke, Mr. %! Or should I call you Mr. Modulo Operator?
Destroyed countries shown in sig.
--
Rank Country GDP (USD)
1 United States (U.S) $30.507 trillion
2 China $19.231 trillion
3 Germany $4.744 trillion
4 India $4.187 trillion
5 Japan $4.186 trillion
6 United Kingdom (U.K.) $3.839 trillion
7 France $3.211 trillion
Is that ALL the countries that have destroyed themselves?
I'd hate to think your list was incomplete. /s
On 2025-05-22 17:12:13 +0000, BTR1701 said:
"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Marmalade King wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
Trump seizes on videos of a fringe South African politician as evidence >>>>> of threats to white farmers
Trumps main evidence, compiled in a video shown during their Oval
Office meeting: Speeches by a politician who was kicked out of
Ramaphosas party, is not part of the coalition that governs the
country.
President Donald Trump and South Africa's president exchanged tense
words in the Oval Office Wednedsay over Trump's baseless claims of the >>>>> systematic killing of white farmers. At one point Trump showed a video >>>>> of white crosses, which he said memorialized white farmers who were
killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0eZAdbcO94
'I Don't Have Plane To Give': South Africa's Ramaphosa Mocks Qatar's Jet >>>> Gift On Trump's Face
:-D
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly
chastising an experienced reporter. An international embarassment,
every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of >>> autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't
want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own >>> constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy,
<roll eyes> One of those "America is a republic not a democracy" freaks.
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are
there because they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence
that 'democracy' has disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a
ranking of 176 countries.
And the 47th Reich still has 3 1/2 years to go.
On 5/23/2025 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On May 23, 2025 at 12:19:07 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >> wrote:
On 2025-05-23 02:09:09 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 3:59:12 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
On 2025-05-22 17:12:13 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 9:00:45 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising
an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of
autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't
want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own
constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy,
<roll eyes> One of those "America is a republic not a democracy" freaks.
<burps> Yeah, one of those "let's call things what they actually are" >>>> freaks.
The U.S. is much more preferable than a democracy. Democracy as a form of
government is only slightly better than a dictatorship. Reduced down to >>>> its
essentials democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for >>>> dinner.
The sheep isn't gonna like the result of that election even though it was
arrived at democratically.
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are >>>>>> there
because
they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that
'democracy' has
disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a >>>>> ranking of 176 countries.
Classified by whom? What are their credentials? What are their biases? Why
is
their opinion supposed to be considered fact?
See for yourself. And do your own research, I'm not Google.
https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking
Well, if a bunch of leftist academics at Universitat Wurzburg say so, it
must
be true.
How are they "leftist"?
On May 23, 2025 at 11:34:51 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 5/23/2025 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On May 23, 2025 at 12:19:07 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
On 2025-05-23 02:09:09 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 3:59:12 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
On 2025-05-22 17:12:13 +0000, BTR1701 said:
On May 22, 2025 at 9:00:45 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid><roll eyes> One of those "America is a republic not a democracy" freaks.
wrote:
In article <100ncn3$3gior$2@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Foolish old Orange Grandpa playing "fake news" while churlishly chastising
an experienced reporter. An international embarassment, every fscking day.
No world leader is going to want to meet with him (with the exception of
autocracies like the one he's hellbent to turn the US into). They don't
want to be a pawn in his messaging to his base. Also they have their own
constituents back home to consider.
Maybe him and Vance and Rubio can sit around in the Oval Office alone
and lament the tragedy of American democracy.
Despite your inaccurate description of the U.S. as a democracy, >>>>>>
<burps> Yeah, one of those "let's call things what they actually are" >>>>> freaks.
The U.S. is much more preferable than a democracy. Democracy as a form of
government is only slightly better than a dictatorship. Reduced down to
its
essentials democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for >>>>> dinner.
The sheep isn't gonna like the result of that election even though it was
arrived at democratically.
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are
there
because
they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that
'democracy' has
disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a >>>>>> ranking of 176 countries.
Classified by whom? What are their credentials? What are their biases? Why
is
their opinion supposed to be considered fact?
See for yourself. And do your own research, I'm not Google.
https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking
Well, if a bunch of leftist academics at Universitat Wurzburg say so, it >>> must
be true.
How are they "leftist"?
Oh, you mean they're the rare conservative university faculty? Much rumored to
exist but rarely, if ever, seen in the wild.
On 5/29/2025 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On May 23, 2025 at 11:34:51 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 5/23/2025 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On May 23, 2025 at 12:19:07 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
On 2025-05-23 02:09:09 +0000, BTR1701 said:
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are >>>>>>>> there because they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that
'democracy' has disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a >>>>>>> ranking of 176 countries.
Classified by whom? What are their credentials? What are their biases? Why
is their opinion supposed to be considered fact?
See for yourself. And do your own research, I'm not Google.
https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking
Well, if a bunch of leftist academics at Universitat Wurzburg say so, it >>>> must be true.
How are they "leftist"?
Oh, you mean they're the rare conservative university faculty? Much rumored >> to
exist but rarely, if ever, seen in the wild.
So, you mean "leftist academics" to be a tautology ...got it.
Let's just ignore how their report appears to be transparently objective and unbiased because, after all, it *couldn't* be, right?
On May 29, 2025 at 2:34:51 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 5/29/2025 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On May 23, 2025 at 11:34:51 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 5/23/2025 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On May 23, 2025 at 12:19:07 AM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
On 2025-05-23 02:09:09 +0000, BTR1701 said:
last I checked, we're still having elections and the current crew are >>>>>>>>> there because they were voted in 'democratically'. I see no evidence that
'democracy' has disappeared.
The US is now classified as a "deficient democracy," number 36 in a >>>>>>>> ranking of 176 countries.
Classified by whom? What are their credentials? What are their biases? Why
is their opinion supposed to be considered fact?
See for yourself. And do your own research, I'm not Google.
https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking
Well, if a bunch of leftist academics at Universitat Wurzburg say so, it
must be true.
How are they "leftist"?
Oh, you mean they're the rare conservative university faculty? Much rumored
to
exist but rarely, if ever, seen in the wild.
So, you mean "leftist academics" to be a tautology ...got it.
What is it you people have against pattern recognition? Every time an overwhelming pattern presents itself, we're chastised by the Left for noticing
it.
Let's just ignore how their report appears to be transparently objective and >> unbiased because, after all, it *couldn't* be, right?
No, it couldn't be. I have the same access to ballot box now that I did under Biden and Obama and Bush and Clinton. No one has been disenfranchised. In fact, the opposite is true. People are being franchised these days who shouldn't be. More and more localities in blue states are giving illegal aliens the right to vote. If *that's* what Wurzburg means by a "deficient democracy", then I retract my criticism and agree, but somehow I doubt they see that as a bad thing.
On Sun, 25 May 2025 11:11:22 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
% wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
pothead wrote:
<crocksnip>
See UK, Germany, France for examples of how to destroy a country.the usa is doing it right
:-D
Good joke, Mr. %! Or should I call you Mr. Modulo Operator?
Destroyed countries shown in sig.
--
Rank Country GDP (USD)
1 United States (U.S) $30.507 trillion
2 China $19.231 trillion
3 Germany $4.744 trillion
4 India $4.187 trillion
5 Japan $4.186 trillion
6 United Kingdom (U.K.) $3.839 trillion
7 France $3.211 trillion
Is that ALL the countries that have destroyed themselves?
I'd hate to think your list was incomplete. /s
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