• Re: Unlawful presence is not a crime

    From Oven Repair@21:1/5 to Brandon Clark on Sat May 31 13:29:52 2025
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    On 5/31/2025 10:52 AM, Brandon Clark wrote:
    From the Supreme Court:

        As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain
        in the United States.

    Crossing the border illegally into the United States is a federal crime. Specifically, it is a violation of 8 U.S.C. § 1325, which criminalizes unlawful entry into the country.

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  • From Porkopolis@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 3 07:38:27 2025
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    On 02 Jun 2025, J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> posted some news:101knr5$3do59$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/31/2025 1:29 PM, Oven Repair, stupid mewling shitworm,
    bullshitted:
    On 5/31/2025 10:52 AM, Brandon Clark wrote:
     From the Supreme Court:

         As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien
    to remain      in the United States.

    Crossing the border illegally into the United States is a federal
    crime. Specifically,

    Overstaying a visa is not a crime, you stupid fucktard.

    What the OP stated is correct, dwarf.

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  • From Max Boot@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 4 20:52:58 2025
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    On 04 Jun 2025, Rudy <katt@gmail.com> posted some news:8U%%P.10540$cr96.233@fx44.iad:

    On 6/4/2025 6:05 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Clave" <ChrisShitbagious@TheMonastery.com> wrote in message
    news:tJL%P.372612$K3w3.134218@fx05.iad...
    Blowjob *still* doesn't know what his tell is.

    On 6/3/2025 12:38 AM,  Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 02 Jun 2025, J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> posted some
    news:101knr5$3do59$1@dont-email.me:

    On 5/31/2025 1:29 PM, Oven Repair, stupid mewling shitworm,
    bullshitted:
    On 5/31/2025 10:52 AM, Brandon Clark wrote:
      From the Supreme Court:

          As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable
    alien to remain      in the United States.

    Crossing the border illegally into the United States is a federal
    crime. Specifically,

    Overstaying a visa is not a crime, you stupid fucktard.

    What the OP stated is correct

    I know, Blowjob â€" I am the OP, and what I stated is correct:
    unlawful presence is not a crime.

    What part of "unlawful" do you think means it isn’t a crime?

    unlawful
    adjective
    No dictionaries, scooter. Literate people â€" me, in this thread â€" don't need them.

    You're a dwarf not a "people."

    We've been through this many times already, scooter. *Every* crime in
    the U.S.C. specifies a potential period of incarceration if convicted.
    The specification of unlawful presence does *not*, scooter.

    It says we can kick whoever it is out and ban them for up to ten years.

    If we catch them breaking into our house we can shoot them.

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  • From Timmy's Tampons@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 00:53:16 2025
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    On 30 Jun 2025, "Royce C. Lamberth" <judge@us.district.gob> posted some news:V6F8Q.602522$sxI1.578974@fx11.iad:

    On 6/30/2025 9:43 AM, jojo wrote:
    Royce C. Lamberth wrote:
    On 6/29/2025 1:56 PM, jojo wrote:
    Royce C. Lamberth wrote:
     From the Supreme Court:

         As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable
    alien to remain      in the United States.

         United States Supreme Court - Arizona v. United States
         https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182


    Unlawful presence:

         https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227


    It is not a crime. Improper entry is a crime, but unlawful
    presence is not.

    This is settled.

    it should not be called unlawful then, unlawful means criminal,
    right?

    No, that's wrong. Unlawful does *not* always mean criminal. There
    are myriad unlawful things that are not criminal. If you make a
    major addition to your house for which you did not get a permit,
    that is unlawful but not criminal. You may be fined or ordered to
    remove the addition, but you face no risk of prison for doing the
    addition without a permit.

    If you slander or libel someone, that is unlawful but not criminal.
    He may sue you and win damages, but you cannot be put in prison for
    it.

    If you enter into a contract with another party and then do not
    abide the terms of the contract, i.e. breach of contract, you may be
    sued for damages and/or an order to perform, but it is not a crime
    and you cannot go to jail for it.

    Every statutory crime specified a potential period of incarceration
    (jail or prison). Civil violations (torts, regulatory violations,
    etc.) do not. If an alien is found to be unlawfully present, the
    worst he can suffer is removal (deportation). He cannot be
    imprisoned for it.

    So, what did you learn today? Criminal equals unlawful, but unlawful
    does not always equal criminal.

    it should be made simple then, jail is level 1 criminal and no jail
    is level 2 criminal.
    All crimes specify a potential period of incarceration.

    No they don't. Bunch of bs flushed.

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