• Jan. 6 criminals are suing the DOJ

    From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 6 17:16:23 2025
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    Federal civil rights lawsuit seeks $100 million for men convicted in
    the Capitol attack, then pardoned by President Donald Trump.
    June 6, 2025 at 2:06 p.m. EDT
    By Ellie Silverman
    The Washington Post

    Five leaders of the Proud Boys, four of whom were found guilty of
    engaging in a seditious conspiracy to keep President Donald Trump in
    power on Jan. 6, 2021, want the government to pay them restitution over
    claims that their constitutional rights were violated, according to a
    federal lawsuit filed Friday in Florida.

    The lawsuit follows Trump's decision to pardon virtually all Jan. 6.
    defendants in one of his opening acts as president, an extraordinary
    attempt to recast the official public narrative about an attack that
    halted the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in American
    history. Its language echoes Trump's own claims that the investigation
    into that attack was illegitimate and politically motivated.

    Now, the suit could force the Trump administration to defend the
    prosecutions, or pay damages at taxpayers' expense to the Proud Boys, a far-right group with a history of violence, a decision historians warn
    could amount to an endorsement of using violence for political gain.

    "A settlement would suggest that the violence of January 6 was entirely justified," said Matthew Dallek, a political historian at George
    Washington University. "It would say to the country that these Proud
    Boys who were convicted in a court of law, in a fair trial, were
    wrongfully prosecuted and victims. It just turns the entire day on its
    head."

    The lawsuit -- filed by Henry "Enrique" Tarrio, Ethan Nordean, Joseph
    Biggs, Zachary Rehl and Dominic Pezzola and seeking $100 million --
    claims federal authorities violated the Constitution in an effort "to
    punish and oppress political allies of President Donald Trump, by any
    and all means necessary, legal, or illegal." It claims the five should
    be paid for violations of their constitutional rights ensuring due
    process and a speedy trial and barring unreasonable search and seizure,
    and that they were subject to malicious prosecution and false
    imprisonment.

    It resurfaces many of the arguments made by the Proud Boys
    unsuccessfully at trial: that Tarrio never read a document shared with
    him by a girlfriend calling for a "revolution" akin to 1776 or Russia's
    1917 coup; that FBI informants tainted the evidence against the Proud
    Boys; and that the government destroyed exculpatory evidence in the
    case. The suit says the judge, appointed by Trump in his first term,
    was biased in favor of the government.

    Tarrio, who was barred from the city on Jan. 6 due to a previous
    arrest, was convicted of plotting the attack on the U.S. Capitol and
    then watching it unfold from a hotel room in Baltimore.

    In his absence that day, prosecutors said Nordean, Biggs and Rehl
    stepped into leadership roles. They pushed through police onto Capitol
    grounds at the front of the crowd, with Rehl shouting, "Storm the
    Capitol!" Pezzola used a police riot shield to break through glass on
    the Capitol's West Terrace, enabling what prosecutors have said was the
    first breach of the building.

    "We made this happen," another Proud Boys leader, who pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy and cooperated with the government, told Tarrio in
    a text that evening.

    "I know," Tarrio replied, adding, "The Winter Palace," a reference to
    the Russian Revolution. To the Proud Boys leadership, Tarrio wrote,
    "Make no mistake ... We did this."

    The suit says the Proud Boys have been "subject to systemic harassment"
    by left-wing groups. But it also makes public the addresses, phone
    numbers and social security numbers of some of the plaintiffs and their associates.

    All five apologized at their sentencings for what happened at the
    Capitol, saying they were swept up in the same fervor as other Trump supporters. All were given punishments that, while steep, were far
    below federal guidelines.

    Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years in prison, the stiffest penalty of all
    Jan. 6 cases. The others received sentences ranging from 10 to 18
    years. Only Tarrio received a pardon from Trump, which does not erase
    his criminal conviction but stands as a formal "forgiveness" by the
    government and restores certain civil rights. The other four received commutations, which meant they were released from prison, but civil
    rights like voting and owning a gun were not restored.

    Trump and his administration have already signaled a willingness to
    ignore past investigative conclusions in a show of support to rioters.
    In addition to Trump's sweeping pardons, the U.S. Justice Department on
    Friday agreed to pay nearly $5 million to settle a wrongful death case
    brought by the family of Ashli Babbitt, who was fatally shot by police
    in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot as she tried to storm the House
    Speaker's Lobby.

    The Justice Department previously found insufficient evidence to prove Babbitt's civil rights had been violated, and a Capitol Police
    investigation cleared the officer involved. The Justice Department did
    not immediately respond to a request for comment Friday.

    The attack, which interrupted Congress's certification of Joe Biden's
    election on Jan. 6, 2021, has become one of the most divisive chapters
    of recent U.S. history, with many Trump supporters -- and the president
    himself -- falsely recasting the violent mob as patriots justifiably
    protesting a stolen election. Five people died in or immediately after
    the violence, during which more than 140 officers were assaulted.

    At the time, the Proud Boys trial was seen as a victory for the Justice Department, which described the attack on the U.S. Capitol as a
    historic act of domestic terrorism. In total, 14 members of the Oath
    Keepers and the Proud Boys were convicted of seditious conspiracy,
    accounting for more people convicted of that offense than for any other criminal event since the Civil War, Matthew M. Graves, then- U.S.
    attorney for the District of Columbia, said at the time.

    Legal analysts said Trump has helped lay the groundwork for lawsuits
    like the one filed Friday, not only by granting pardons to nearly all
    of roughly 1,600 Capitol riot defendants, but also by calling the
    prosecutions in his pardon proclamation "a grave national injustice
    that has been perpetrated upon the American people over the last four
    years."

    Under an executive order targeting the "weaponization" of the Justice Department, Trump repeated misleading accusations against the Biden administration while prompting Attorney General Pamela Bondi to launch
    a "weaponization working group" to identify, among other things, "the
    pursuit of improper investigative tactics and unethical" Capitol riot prosecutions.

    Former interim U.S. attorney Ed Martin fired or demoted more than 20 prosecutors in his D.C. office involved in those cases or ones
    involving Trump and top aides. Martin, now in a DOJ position overseeing
    pardons and leading Bondi's weaponization group, has also conducted his
    own review of some riot prosecutions.

    Allan J. Lichtman, a history professor at American University, said
    settling the lawsuit would send a "horrendous" message to all
    Americans. He compared it to white supremacists during the Jim Crow era recasting Confederates who fought in the Civil War as "noble."

    "It would send the message that violent insurrections in American
    democracy are legitimized, even encouraged. That no matter what the
    truth of your grievances are, you're fully justified if you put it in
    the name of patriotism, saving America from the communists, the
    'socialists and the left wingers, it's okay," Lichtman said. "It would
    be a dramatic advance toward rewriting the past in order to control the future."

    Congress's audit arm has estimated that the cost of the Jan. 6 attack
    to taxpayers was $2.7 billion, including property damage and costs to
    improve security along with expenses incurred by the Capitol Police,
    the District of Columbia and federal agencies.

    CBS News reported last June that Jan. 6 offenders repaid only about
    $437,000 of nearly $3 million, or about 15 percent of the money owed in restitution for damage to the Capitol. Trump's pardons erased the
    requirement. And the Justice Department recently took the position that
    those who paid are entitled to a refund.

    Trump administration officials have spoken in favor of paying
    taxpayer-funded "reparations" to the rioters. In a Newsmax interview in
    March, Trump said he supported the idea of establishing a fund for the
    pardoned rioters.

    If the government settled the case with the Proud Boys convicted of the
    most serious crimes, there could be a cascading effect among the other
    Capitol riot defendants, said Randall Eliason, a former federal
    prosecutor who teaches law at George Washington University.

    "What stops the other 1,600 defendants from lining up behind them?"
    Eliason said. "Lawyers will be beating down their doors to file similar claims."

    Tarrio and his attorney, Thomas Ranieri, both said they want the
    lawsuit to clear the way for others.

    "I do hope it creates a crack in the dam," said Ranieri, whose firm
    Ranieri & Associates is based in Front Royal, Va.

    While standing outside the White House, they said they have not spoken
    with the DOJ or any representative of the Trump administration about
    the suit. Tarrio, who lives in Miami, ran into Trump at Mar-a-Lago last
    month and said on X that the two had "a great conversation."

    "He called me and my Mother over while we were at dinner and said he
    was sorry for what @JoeBiden did to all J6ers," Tarrio wrote. "He knew
    the hardships me and my family faced for 3 long years. He knew how many
    times they moved me. And he said he is working on making things right.
    I thanked him for giving me my life back. He replied with ... I Love
    You guys."

    Tarrio said he has not talked to the president since that encounter.
    When asked what message he hopes this suit sends to other Jan. 6
    defendants, he referenced Trump's words right after being shot at a Pennsylvania rally last year: "Fight, fight, fight," he said.

    Aaron Schaffer contributed to this report.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Sat Jun 7 02:07:37 2025
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    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in news:101vpbn$2h8ug$1@dont- email.me:

    Federal civil rights lawsuit seeks $100 million for men convicted in
    the Capitol attack, then pardoned by President Donald Trump.
    June 6, 2025 at 2:06 p.m. EDT
    By Ellie Silverman
    The Washington Post

    Five leaders of the Proud Boys, four of whom were found guilty of
    engaging in a seditious conspiracy to keep President Donald Trump in
    power on Jan. 6, 2021, want the government to pay them restitution over claims that their constitutional rights were violated, according to a
    federal lawsuit filed Friday in Florida.

    The lawsuit follows Trump's decision to pardon virtually all Jan. 6. defendants in one of his opening acts as president, an extraordinary
    attempt to recast the official public narrative about an attack that
    halted the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in American
    history. Its language echoes Trump's own claims that the investigation
    into that attack was illegitimate and politically motivated.

    Now, the suit could force the Trump administration to defend the prosecutions, or pay damages at taxpayers' expense to the Proud Boys, a far-right group with a history of violence, a decision historians warn
    could amount to an endorsement of using violence for political gain.

    "A settlement would suggest that the violence of January 6 was entirely justified," said Matthew Dallek, a political historian at George
    Washington University. "It would say to the country that these Proud
    Boys who were convicted in a court of law, in a fair trial, were
    wrongfully prosecuted and victims. It just turns the entire day on its
    head."


    When does crime pay?

    When it benefits Trump.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat Jun 7 04:39:35 2025
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    On 2025-06-07 02:07:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman said:

    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in news:101vpbn$2h8ug$1@dont- email.me:

    Federal civil rights lawsuit seeks $100 million for men convicted in
    the Capitol attack, then pardoned by President Donald Trump.
    June 6, 2025 at 2:06 p.m. EDT
    By Ellie Silverman
    The Washington Post

    Five leaders of the Proud Boys, four of whom were found guilty of
    engaging in a seditious conspiracy to keep President Donald Trump in
    power on Jan. 6, 2021, want the government to pay them restitution over
    claims that their constitutional rights were violated, according to a
    federal lawsuit filed Friday in Florida.

    The lawsuit follows Trump's decision to pardon virtually all Jan. 6.
    defendants in one of his opening acts as president, an extraordinary
    attempt to recast the official public narrative about an attack that
    halted the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in American
    history. Its language echoes Trump's own claims that the investigation
    into that attack was illegitimate and politically motivated.

    Now, the suit could force the Trump administration to defend the
    prosecutions, or pay damages at taxpayers' expense to the Proud Boys, a
    far-right group with a history of violence, a decision historians warn
    could amount to an endorsement of using violence for political gain.

    "A settlement would suggest that the violence of January 6 was entirely
    justified," said Matthew Dallek, a political historian at George
    Washington University. "It would say to the country that these Proud
    Boys who were convicted in a court of law, in a fair trial, were
    wrongfully prosecuted and victims. It just turns the entire day on its
    head."


    When does crime pay?

    When it benefits Trump.

    Trump will order Bondi to pay them like the outrageous Babbitt family
    payout, and eventually all the 1,600 other Jan. 6'ers.

    Because he's *so* concerned about wasteful government spending.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 7 06:48:53 2025
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    super70s wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 2025-06-07 02:07:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman said:

    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in news:101vpbn$2h8ug$1@dont-
    email.me:

    Federal civil rights lawsuit seeks $100 million for men convicted in
    the Capitol attack, then pardoned by President Donald Trump.
    June 6, 2025 at 2:06 p.m. EDT
    By Ellie Silverman
    The Washington Post

    Five leaders of the Proud Boys, four of whom were found guilty of
    engaging in a seditious conspiracy to keep President Donald Trump in
    power on Jan. 6, 2021, want the government to pay them restitution over
    claims that their constitutional rights were violated, according to a
    federal lawsuit filed Friday in Florida.

    The lawsuit follows Trump's decision to pardon virtually all Jan. 6.
    defendants in one of his opening acts as president, an extraordinary
    attempt to recast the official public narrative about an attack that
    halted the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in American
    history. Its language echoes Trump's own claims that the investigation
    into that attack was illegitimate and politically motivated.

    Now, the suit could force the Trump administration to defend the
    prosecutions, or pay damages at taxpayers' expense to the Proud Boys, a
    far-right group with a history of violence, a decision historians warn
    could amount to an endorsement of using violence for political gain.

    "A settlement would suggest that the violence of January 6 was entirely
    justified," said Matthew Dallek, a political historian at George
    Washington University. "It would say to the country that these Proud
    Boys who were convicted in a court of law, in a fair trial, were
    wrongfully prosecuted and victims. It just turns the entire day on its
    head."

    When does crime pay?

    When it benefits Trump.

    Trump will order Bondi to pay them like the outrageous Babbitt family
    payout, and eventually all the 1,600 other Jan. 6'ers.

    Because he's *so* concerned about wasteful government spending.

    Well, he'll need the votes for his 3rd term.

    --
    "All we are given is possibilities -- to make ourselves one thing or another."
    -- Ortega y Gasset

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