• Crude oil prices up, world markets down, Trump screwed

    From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 13 01:50:08 2025
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    Big Guy shouldn't have torn up that anti-proliferation agreement
    negotiated by Obama for no other reason than it was negotiated by Obama.

    Although as belligerent as Israel has become lately it might not have
    made any difference anyway.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 13 13:50:14 2025
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    super70s wrote:

    Big Guy shouldn't have torn up that anti-proliferation agreement
    negotiated by Obama for no other reason than it was negotiated by Obama.

    Although as belligerent as Israel has become lately it might not have
    made any difference anyway.



    Trump's going to force the oil companies to DRILL BABY DRILL.

    It will be by order from on high signed by Trump himself, they don't have a choice.


    Welcome to Trump style capitalism.


    The Fuehrer is making America great again.

    It will be the America of 1782 not today, but nobody asked him that.

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  • From Pierre Delecto@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 13 10:29:18 2025
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    On 6/13/25 2:50 AM, super70s wrote:
    Big Guy shouldn't have torn up that anti-proliferation agreement
    negotiated by Obama for no other reason than it was negotiated by Obama.

    Although as belligerent as Israel has become lately it might not have
    made any difference anyway.


    He tore nothing up. He withdrew from JCPOA, while other signatories (EU,
    China, Russia) remained. To no one's surprise (except braindead
    democrats) Iran breached its terms limits, and that's when Trump found
    it pointless to remain in a one-sided agreement with no teeth. That's
    when he implemented sanctions, which were working until Biden undermined
    it, thereby helping Iran to fund it's nuclear activities.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Pierre Delecto on Fri Jun 13 11:15:08 2025
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    Pierre Delecto wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 6/13/25 2:50 AM, super70s wrote:
    Big Guy shouldn't have torn up that anti-proliferation agreement
    negotiated by Obama for no other reason than it was negotiated by Obama.

    Although as belligerent as Israel has become lately it might not have
    made any difference anyway.

    He tore nothing up. He withdrew from JCPOA, while other signatories (EU, China, Russia) remained. To no one's surprise (except braindead
    democrats) Iran breached its terms limits, and that's when Trump found
    it pointless to remain in a one-sided agreement with no teeth. That's
    when he implemented sanctions, which were working until Biden undermined
    it, thereby helping Iran to fund it's nuclear activities.

    <https://armscontrolcenter.org/a-worthless-withdrawal-two-years-since-president-trump-abandoned-the-jcpoa/>

    A worthless withdrawal: Two years since President Trump abandoned the JCPOA

    In retaliation for the Trump Administration’s decision to leave the JCPOA,
    Iran incrementally stepped back from compliance with the deal one year
    later — beginning in May 2019 — and our allies have resisted calls to
    punish Iran over its legitimate grievances. Iran’s proximity to a nuclear
    weapon capability has gradually increased due to the Trump Administration’s
    policies, and Iran is now roughly six months away from having enough
    weapons-grade fissile material for a nuclear bomb. When President Trump
    took office, Iran was about a year from that milestone. As a whole, the
    Trump Administration’s withdrawal from the JCPOA and “maximum pressure”
    strategy has gotten the United States no closer to its stated goals.

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  • From Pierre Delecto@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri Jun 13 11:54:05 2025
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    On 6/13/25 11:15 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Pierre Delecto wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 6/13/25 2:50 AM, super70s wrote:
    Big Guy shouldn't have torn up that anti-proliferation agreement
    negotiated by Obama for no other reason than it was negotiated by Obama. >>>
    Although as belligerent as Israel has become lately it might not have
    made any difference anyway.

    He tore nothing up. He withdrew from JCPOA, while other signatories (EU,
    China, Russia) remained. To no one's surprise (except braindead
    democrats) Iran breached its terms limits, and that's when Trump found
    it pointless to remain in a one-sided agreement with no teeth. That's
    when he implemented sanctions, which were working until Biden undermined
    it, thereby helping Iran to fund it's nuclear activities.

    <https://armscontrolcenter.org/a-worthless-withdrawal-two-years-since-president-trump-abandoned-the-jcpoa/>

    A worthless withdrawal: Two years since President Trump abandoned the JCPOA

    In retaliation for the Trump Administration’s decision to leave the JCPOA,
    Iran incrementally stepped back from compliance with the deal one year
    later —

    So let me get this straight - Iran, who wants to develop nuclear
    weapons, is angry that the U.S., who said “it is the policy of the
    United States that Iran be denied a nuclear weapon and intercontinental ballistic missiles,” and has left the room clearing the way for it to
    develop nuclear weapons, has withdrawn from the deal? By that logic I
    guess Russia is angry at Trump for getting the U.S. out of its Ukraine conflict.

    With that silliness of that reasoning from an op-ed I'm not even going
    to bother with the rest of it.

    beginning in May 2019 — and our allies have resisted calls to
    punish Iran over its legitimate grievances. Iran’s proximity to a nuclear
    weapon capability has gradually increased due to the Trump Administration’s
    policies, and Iran is now roughly six months away from having enough
    weapons-grade fissile material for a nuclear bomb. When President Trump
    took office, Iran was about a year from that milestone. As a whole, the
    Trump Administration’s withdrawal from the JCPOA and “maximum pressure”
    strategy has gotten the United States no closer to its stated goals.


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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Pierre Delecto on Fri Jun 13 13:58:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats.d

    Pierre Delecto wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 6/13/25 11:15 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Pierre Delecto wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 6/13/25 2:50 AM, super70s wrote:
    Big Guy shouldn't have torn up that anti-proliferation agreement
    negotiated by Obama for no other reason than it was negotiated by Obama. >>>>
    Although as belligerent as Israel has become lately it might not have
    made any difference anyway.

    He tore nothing up. He withdrew from JCPOA, while other signatories (EU, >>> China, Russia) remained. To no one's surprise (except braindead
    democrats) Iran breached its terms limits, and that's when Trump found
    it pointless to remain in a one-sided agreement with no teeth. That's
    when he implemented sanctions, which were working until Biden undermined >>> it, thereby helping Iran to fund it's nuclear activities.

    <https://armscontrolcenter.org/a-worthless-withdrawal-two-years-since-president-trump-abandoned-the-jcpoa/>

    A worthless withdrawal: Two years since President Trump abandoned the JCPOA

    In retaliation for the Trump Administration’s decision to leave the JCPOA,
    Iran incrementally stepped back from compliance with the deal one year >> later —

    So let me get this straight - Iran, who wants to develop nuclear
    weapons, is angry that the U.S., who said “it is the policy of the
    United States that Iran be denied a nuclear weapon and intercontinental ballistic missiles,” and has left the room clearing the way for it to develop nuclear weapons, has withdrawn from the deal? By that logic I
    guess Russia is angry at Trump for getting the U.S. out of its Ukraine conflict.

    With that silliness of that reasoning from an op-ed I'm not even going
    to bother with the rest of it.

    :-D You are incoherent.

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    get parts.

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