• Re: Exclusive: US Marines carry out first known detention of ex-dogie i

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to thomas on Mon Jun 16 09:34:30 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to Los
    Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. military confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the first known detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President Donald
    Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command
    spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an
    individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian identified
    himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed a
    yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and
    Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 10:04:21 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to Los
    Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. military
    confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President Donald
    Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command
    spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an
    individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian identified
    himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed a
    yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and
    Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good.  Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jun 16 13:55:33 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to Los
    Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. military
    confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President Donald
    Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building earlier >>> on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command
    spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an
    individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian identified
    himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed a
    yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and
    Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jun 16 13:41:25 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to Los
    Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. military
    confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the first known >>>> detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President Donald
    Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los Angeles >>>> where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building
    earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of protests >>>> over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command
    spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an
    individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be >>>> safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian identified
    himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on his way >>>> to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed a
    yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, said he >>>> was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and
    Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good.  Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to exist
    for this situation.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Jun 17 07:53:40 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to Los
    Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. military >>>>> confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the first
    known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President Donald
    Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los
    Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building
    earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of
    protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command
    spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an
    individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can >>>>> be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian identified >>>>> himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on his
    way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed a >>>>> yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, said >>>>> he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and
    Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Jun 17 11:53:13 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102s174$2fek5$2@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-17 04:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to Los >>>>>>> Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. military >>>>>>> confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the first >>>>>>> known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President Donald >>>>>>> Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los
    Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building >>>>>>> earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of
    protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command
    spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an
    individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can >>>>>>> be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian identified >>>>>>> himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on his >>>>>>> way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed a >>>>>>> yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, said >>>>>>> he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and >>>>>>> Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to exist
    for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?
    Cite the text from the act that makes that matter.

    Federal property.. means federal control and thus authority. No different
    than a military base..

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jun 17 08:22:11 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 2025-06-17 04:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to Los >>>>>> Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. military >>>>>> confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the first
    known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President Donald >>>>>> Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los
    Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building
    earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of
    protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command
    spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an
    individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s)
    can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian identified >>>>>> himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on
    his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed a >>>>>> yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service,
    said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and
    Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good.  Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to exist
    for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?
    Cite the text from the act that makes that matter.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jun 17 10:40:54 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 2025-06-17 08:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102s174$2fek5$2@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-17 04:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to Los >>>>>>>> Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S.
    military
    confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the
    first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President Donald >>>>>>>> Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los >>>>>>>> Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building >>>>>>>> earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of >>>>>>>> protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command >>>>>>>> spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an >>>>>>>> individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) >>>>>>>> can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian
    identified
    himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on >>>>>>>> his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he
    crossed a
    yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, >>>>>>>> said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and >>>>>>>> Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good.  Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to
    exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?
    Cite the text from the act that makes that matter.

    Federal property.. means federal control and thus authority. No
    different than a military base..
    Sorry, but you need to try again.

    That is not text from the Posse Comitatus Act.

    And you haven't even proven that a federal property is "no different
    than a military base".

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Jun 18 08:48:51 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102s9b6$2hdi4$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-17 08:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102s174$2fek5$2@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-17 04:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont- >>>>>> email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to >>>>>>>>> Los
    Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S.
    military
    confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the first >>>>>>>>> known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President Donald >>>>>>>>> Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los >>>>>>>>> Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building >>>>>>>>> earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of >>>>>>>>> protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command >>>>>>>>> spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an >>>>>>>>> individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) >>>>>>>>> can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law >>>>>>>>> enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian
    identified
    himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on >>>>>>>>> his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed >>>>>>>>> a
    yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, >>>>>>>>> said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and >>>>>>>>> Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to exist >>>>> for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?
    Cite the text from the act that makes that matter.

    Federal property.. means federal control and thus authority. No different
    than a military base..
    Sorry, but you need to try again.

    That is not text from the Posse Comitatus Act.

    I didn't say it was.


    And you haven't even proven that a federal property is "no different than
    a military base".

    I don't need to, if you feel one piece of federal property is different
    under the law that another piece of federal property.. then it's up to you
    to establish that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Scout on Wed Jun 18 12:42:38 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 2025-06-18 05:48, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102s9b6$2hdi4$1@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-17 08:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102s174$2fek5$2@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-17 04:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed >>>>>>>>>> to Los
    Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. >>>>>>>>>> military
    confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the >>>>>>>>>> first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President >>>>>>>>>> Donald
    Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in >>>>>>>>>> Los Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the
    building earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of >>>>>>>>>> protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command >>>>>>>>>> spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an >>>>>>>>>> individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the
    individual(s) can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law >>>>>>>>>> enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian
    identified
    himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran >>>>>>>>>> on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he >>>>>>>>>> crossed a
    yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military
    service, said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and >>>>>>>>>> Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good.  Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to
    exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?
    Cite the text from the act that makes that matter.

    Federal property.. means federal control and thus authority. No
    different than a military base..
    Sorry, but you need to try again.

    That is not text from the Posse Comitatus Act.

    I didn't say it was.

    Then you haven't cited anything that makes what Trump is doing legal.



    And you haven't even proven that a federal property is "no different
    than a military base".

    I don't need to, if you feel one piece of federal property is different
    under the law that another piece of federal property.. then it's up to
    you to establish that.
    Post offices are federal property, are they not?

    The public is allowed unfettered access to post offices...

    ...but not military bases.

    Ergo, the two are different.

    A post office is not "no different than a military base".

    My job is done.

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  • From slimer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 18 21:48:00 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 17 Jun 2025, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted some news:102rl9n$2ca4n$4@dont-email.me:



    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to
    Los Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S.
    military confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in
    the first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President
    Donald Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los
    Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building
    earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of
    protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command
    spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an
    individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s)
    can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian
    identified himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army
    veteran on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he
    crossed a yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service,
    said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and
    Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to
    exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?

    The insurrection part has always confused Democrats.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to slimer on Wed Jun 18 15:43:55 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 2025-06-18 14:48, slimer wrote:
    On 17 Jun 2025, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted some news:102rl9n$2ca4n$4@dont-email.me:



    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to
    Los Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S.
    military confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in >>>>>>> the first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President
    Donald Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los
    Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building >>>>>>> earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of
    protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command
    spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an
    individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) >>>>>>> can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian
    identified himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army
    veteran on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he
    crossed a yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service,
    said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and >>>>>>> Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to
    exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?

    The insurrection part has always confused Democrats.

    There was no insurrection.

    A protest is NOT an insurrection.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Jun 19 11:17:19 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102v4rf$3aq0n$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-18 05:48, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102s9b6$2hdi4$1@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-17 08:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102s174$2fek5$2@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-17 04:53, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont- >>>>>> email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to >>>>>>>>>>> Los
    Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. >>>>>>>>>>> military
    confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in the >>>>>>>>>>> first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President >>>>>>>>>>> Donald
    Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los >>>>>>>>>>> Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building >>>>>>>>>>> earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of >>>>>>>>>>> protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command >>>>>>>>>>> spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an >>>>>>>>>>> individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) >>>>>>>>>>> can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law >>>>>>>>>>> enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian >>>>>>>>>>> identified
    himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on >>>>>>>>>>> his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he >>>>>>>>>>> crossed a
    yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, >>>>>>>>>>> said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and >>>>>>>>>>> Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to >>>>>>> exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?
    Cite the text from the act that makes that matter.

    Federal property.. means federal control and thus authority. No
    different than a military base..
    Sorry, but you need to try again.

    That is not text from the Posse Comitatus Act.

    I didn't say it was.

    Then you haven't cited anything that makes what Trump is doing legal.

    Sure I have... the military can serve to protect and enforce conduct on
    federal property.

    It would now be up to you to show they couldn't for this specific example.

    And you haven't even proven that a federal property is "no different
    than a military base".

    I don't need to, if you feel one piece of federal property is different
    under the law that another piece of federal property.. then it's up to
    you to establish that.
    Post offices are federal property, are they not?

    Yep, and as such the military could be used in them.


    The public is allowed unfettered access to post offices...

    No they aren't.

    However, even by your own language you admit my point.. "is ALLOWED".

    If something is being allowed.. then that also means it can be denied.

    Point, Set, Match.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Jun 19 11:22:24 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102vffb$3e5ij$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-18 14:48, slimer wrote:
    On 17 Jun 2025, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted some news:102rl9n$2ca4n$4@dont-email.me:



    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont- >>>>> email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to >>>>>>>> Los Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. >>>>>>>> military confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in >>>>>>>> the first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President
    Donald Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los >>>>>>>> Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building >>>>>>>> earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of >>>>>>>> protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command >>>>>>>> spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an >>>>>>>> individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) >>>>>>>> can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law
    enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian
    identified himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army >>>>>>>> veteran on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he
    crossed a yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, >>>>>>>> said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and >>>>>>>> Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to
    exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?

    The insurrection part has always confused Democrats.

    There was no insurrection.

    A protest is NOT an insurrection.

    It was according to the standards previously set by liberals.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Scout on Thu Jun 19 11:06:14 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 2025-06-19 08:22, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102vffb$3e5ij$1@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-18 14:48, slimer wrote:
    On 17 Jun 2025, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted some news:102rl9n$2ca4n$4@dont-email.me:



    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont- >>>>>> email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to >>>>>>>>> Los Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. >>>>>>>>> military confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in >>>>>>>>> the first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President
    Donald Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los >>>>>>>>> Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building >>>>>>>>> earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of >>>>>>>>> protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command >>>>>>>>> spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an >>>>>>>>> individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) >>>>>>>>> can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law >>>>>>>>> enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian
    identified himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army >>>>>>>>> veteran on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he
    crossed a yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, >>>>>>>>> said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and >>>>>>>>> Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good.  Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to
    exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?

    The insurrection part has always confused Democrats.

    There was no insurrection.

    A protest is NOT an insurrection.

    It was according to the standards previously set by liberals.




    Really?

    When was that?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Jun 20 10:01:28 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:1031jin$1l8t$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-19 08:22, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102vffb$3e5ij$1@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-18 14:48, slimer wrote:
    On 17 Jun 2025, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted some news:102rl9n$2ca4n$4@dont-email.me:



    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont- >>>>>>> email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed to >>>>>>>>>> Los Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, the U.S. >>>>>>>>>> military confirmed after being presented with Reuters images, in >>>>>>>>>> the first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President >>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los >>>>>>>>>> Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building >>>>>>>>>> earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of >>>>>>>>>> protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command >>>>>>>>>> spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an >>>>>>>>>> individual in specific circumstances."

    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) >>>>>>>>>> can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law >>>>>>>>>> enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian
    identified himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army >>>>>>>>>> veteran on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he >>>>>>>>>> crossed a yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, >>>>>>>>>> said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and >>>>>>>>>> Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to
    exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?

    The insurrection part has always confused Democrats.

    There was no insurrection.

    A protest is NOT an insurrection.

    It was according to the standards previously set by liberals.




    Really?

    When was that?

    Jan 6th

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  • From Jon Brady@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 20 21:02:02 2025
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, sci.military.naval, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 20 Jun 2025, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted some news:1033qmh$2is9$4@dont-email.me:



    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:1031jin$1l8t$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-19 08:22, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:102vffb$3e5ij$1@dont-
    email.me...
    On 2025-06-18 14:48, slimer wrote:
    On 17 Jun 2025, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> posted some
    news:102rl9n$2ca4n$4@dont-email.me:



    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102pvhl$1s2ev$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 10:55, Scout wrote:


    "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
    news:102piql$1npc7$2@dont- email.me...
    On 2025-06-16 09:34, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/13/25 18:36, thomas wrote:
    LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON, June 13 (Reuters) - Marines deployed >>>>>>>>>>> to Los Angeles temporarily detained a civilian on Friday, >>>>>>>>>>> the U.S. military confirmed after being presented with
    Reuters images, in the first known
    detention by active-duty troops deployed there by President >>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump.

    The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in >>>>>>>>>>> Los Angeles
    where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the
    building earlier
    on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days >>>>>>>>>>> of protests
    over immigration raids.
    -----

    Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern
    Command spokesperson said active duty forces "may
    temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances." >>>>>>>>>>>
    "Any temporary detention ends immediately when the
    individual(s) can be
    safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian >>>>>>>>>>> law enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian >>>>>>>>>>> identified himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an >>>>>>>>>>> Army veteran on his way
    to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he >>>>>>>>>>> crossed a yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.

    Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military
    service, said he
    was treated "very fairly."

    "They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan >>>>>>>>>>> and Portuguese descent. ----

    All is good. Semper Fi!


    All is not good:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act>

    Keyword you apparently missed "limits" not "excludes"




    Nope.

    Because the limits are clear, and no exception has been shown to >>>>>>> exist for this situation.

    "Wilshire Federal Building"

    What part of that do you not understand?

    The insurrection part has always confused Democrats.

    There was no insurrection.

    A protest is NOT an insurrection.

    It was according to the standards previously set by liberals.




    Really?

    When was that?

    Jan 6th

    Touché.

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