• How Does Israel Restrict Its Media From Reporting On The Iran Conflict?

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 19 23:20:35 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    Israel is one of those countries that scores even lower than the USA
    on freedom of the press. The military censor is one way to play down
    the amount of damage those Iranian missiles are causing, I guess.
    Wouldn’t want ordinary citizens to think that this might be anything
    less than Israel asserting absolute military dominance.

    <https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/19/how-does-israel-restrict-its-media-from-reporting-on-the-iran-conflict>

    Quote:

    Specifically, journalists and editors are prohibited from:

    * Filming or broadcasting images from impact sites, particularly
    near military installations.
    * Using drones or wide-angle cameras to show impact areas.
    * Detailing the precise location of affected areas near security
    installations.
    * Broadcasting images of Israeli missiles being launched or of
    Iranian missiles being intercepted.
    * The directive also bans the sharing of videos from social
    media without prior review by the censor, cautioning – as a
    side note – that some may be “enemy-generated fake news”.

    The new restrictions have taken immediate effect. Photographers in
    the port city of Haifa were arrested in the early hours of Tuesday
    morning while setting up cameras to capture images of potential
    strikes on the port.

    Imagine that: civilians being arrested by the military in a civilian
    area, with only civilian things going on. That’s a “free, democratic society” for you.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Thu Jun 19 23:23:24 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <1032603$6iji$3@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Quote:

    Specifically, journalists and editors are prohibited from:

    * Filming or broadcasting images from impact sites, particularly
    near military installations.
    * Using drones or wide-angle cameras to show impact areas.
    * Detailing the precise location of affected areas near security
    installations.
    * Broadcasting images of Israeli missiles being launched or of
    Iranian missiles being intercepted.
    * The directive also bans the sharing of videos from social
    media without prior review by the censor, cautioning – as a
    side note – that some may be “enemy-generated fake news”.

    It's a country at WAR, Hamas bitch.

    Get a grip, you can't be that dumb... right?

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Fri Jun 20 01:03:30 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 23:23:24 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    It's a country at WAR ...

    A war that it started.

    “The only democracy in the Middle East”, it proclaims -- not like all
    those other authoritarian regimes, it keeps insisting ... only it’s not so different after all, is it?

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  • From David LaRue@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Jun 20 03:22:11 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in news:1032c12$81tr$1@dont-email.me:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 23:23:24 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    It's a country at WAR ...

    A war that it started.

    “The only democracy in the Middle East”, it proclaims -- not like
    all those other authoritarian regimes, it keeps insisting ... only
    it’s not so different after all, is it?

    Hamas attacked Israel. Hamas is funded by Iranian leaders. Israel is defending itself from Hamas and other Iranian terror groups. This has
    gone on so long that Israel will finish another fight that it didn't
    start. You can tell from all the responses that much planning has gone
    into this.

    IMHO they have been very tolerant and peaceful in their response to people
    all around them who want to murder them.

    I and my country are also hated by Iran. We side with Israel. Do not
    provoke us further. If you continue God will eventually help us. Accept
    peace so you can have tomorrow.

    How would you respond to an enemy that clearly wants to murder you?

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to David LaRue on Fri Jun 20 04:32:12 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 03:22:11 -0000 (UTC), David LaRue wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in news:1032c12$81tr$1@dont-email.me:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 23:23:24 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    It's a country at WAR ...

    A war that it started.

    “The only democracy in the Middle East”, it proclaims -- not like
    all those other authoritarian regimes, it keeps insisting ... only
    it’s not so different after all, is it?

    Hamas attacked Israel. Hamas is funded by Iranian leaders. Israel is defending itself from Hamas and other Iranian terror groups. This has
    gone on so long that Israel will finish another fight that it didn't
    start. You can tell from all the responses that much planning has gone
    into this.

    Not sure it has. The pretext for the attack on Iran was to stop them
    developing a nuclear weapon -- but both US intelligence and the IAEA are
    agreed that Iran is nowhere near capable of doing such a thing. It is only Netanyahu who continues to insist (and has insisted for the past 30
    years!) that this is somehow close to happening.

    Butcher Bibi is betting the future of his country on the assumption that
    Trump will bring the USA into the war and save him. Meanwhile, Israel is continuing to get a battering from those Iranian missiles.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com on Fri Jun 20 08:16:57 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <XnsB303EDAF89A75hueydlltampabayrrcom@135.181.20.170>,
    David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

    Hamas attacked Israel. Hamas is funded by Iranian leaders. Israel is defending itself from Hamas and other Iranian terror groups. This has
    gone on so long that Israel will finish another fight that it didn't
    start. You can tell from all the responses that much planning has gone
    into this.

    IMHO they have been very tolerant and peaceful in their response to people all around them who want to murder them.

    I and my country are also hated by Iran. We side with Israel. Do not provoke us further. If you continue God will eventually help us. Accept peace so you can have tomorrow.

    How would you respond to an enemy that clearly wants to murder you?

    Well said Sir.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Fri Jun 20 08:28:23 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <1032o8b$e9r1$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Not sure it has. The pretext for the attack on Iran was to stop them developing a nuclear weapon -- but both US intelligence and the IAEA are agreed that Iran is nowhere near capable of doing such a thing.

    That's BS.

    "Findings include 2003 tests of detonator for nuclear bomb; UN watchdog also says Tehran now has enough uranium, if enriched further, for 9 bombs."

    etc. etc. etc.

    They are clearly going for a bomb, there's no "peaceful purpose" this enrichment program serves.

    I'm no Netanyahu fan, but he's not the major problem.

    The major problem is a nation which declared, 46 years ago, that
    its most important goal is to annihilate Israel, and which had
    been working towards that goal ever since.

    So far they did it by proxy, making others suffer, laughing on the
    sidelines while others die -- in Israel, Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen...

    No more.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Fri Jun 20 08:15:40 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <1032c12$81tr$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 23:23:24 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    It's a country at WAR ...

    A war that it started.

    A lie, and irrelevant even if it were true.

    These are the people you're working for, Hamas bitch? For shame.

    Iran's use of criminal networks as terrorist proxies in Europe -------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-10-2024-002059_EN.html
    The Iranian regime's use of criminal networks as terrorist proxies in Europe poses a
    grave threat to our internal security.

    Iran behind AMIA bombing
    ------------------------
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing

    Threading a Precarious Geopolitical Posture, Iran Seeks to Wreak Havoc in Europe
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    https://thesoufancenter.org/intelbrief-2025-may-7/

    Iran behind basically every terror organization in the Middle East ------------------------------------------------------------------ https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2021/iran/

    Iran behind attack on Saudi-Arabia oil facilities ------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abqaiq%E2%80%93Khurais_attack

    Iran's antisemitism and Holocaust denial ---------------------------------------- https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion/holocaust-denial-antisemitism-iran

    Iran's security service behind a special operation against targets in Sweden ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.rferl.org/a/sweden-blames-iranian-hackers-for-attack-urging-revenge-for-koran-burnings/33131987.html

    Iran, for years, sacrificed numerous Lebanese in pointless wars
    with Israel, by backing and arming Hezbollah ---------------------------------------------------------------
    "During the 2006 Lebanon War, Iranian Revolutionary Guards were believed
    to have directly assisted Hezbollah fighters in their attacks on Israel. Multiple sources suggested that hundreds of Revolutionary Guard operatives participated in the firing of rockets into Israel during the war, and
    secured Hezbollah's long-range missiles."

    Iran's oppression and mass executions
    ------------------------------------- https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/04/iran-executes-853-people-in-eight-year-high-amid-relentless-repression-and-renewed-war-on-drugs/
    https://theconversation.com/despite-un-warnings-irans-execution-of-kurds-and-political-dissidents-continues-unchecked-223138#:~:text=In%20the%20first%2011%20months,prisoners%2C%20including%20four%20on%20Jan.

    Mass rape, torture in Iranian jails
    ----------------------------------- https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20231206-rape-torture-used-to-silence-iran-s-mahsa-amini-protesters-amnesty-says

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  • From David LaRue@21:1/5 to hello there on Fri Jun 20 13:49:20 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    hello there <no-spam-thank-you@not.home> wrote in news:1033637$78f$3 @pcls7.std.com:


    In article <1032o8b$e9r1$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Not sure it has. The pretext for the attack on Iran was to stop them
    developing a nuclear weapon -- but both US intelligence and the IAEA are
    agreed that Iran is nowhere near capable of doing such a thing.

    That's BS.

    "Findings include 2003 tests of detonator for nuclear bomb; UN watchdog
    also
    says Tehran now has enough uranium, if enriched further, for 9 bombs."

    etc. etc. etc.

    They are clearly going for a bomb, there's no "peaceful purpose" this enrichment program serves.

    I'm no Netanyahu fan, but he's not the major problem.

    The major problem is a nation which declared, 46 years ago, that
    its most important goal is to annihilate Israel, and which had
    been working towards that goal ever since.

    So far they did it by proxy, making others suffer, laughing on the
    sidelines while others die -- in Israel, Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen...

    No more.

    It does look like they could build a bomb. Delivery by any means is unacceptable to the region.

    However, what should the world do besides pray? See this excellent video
    from Thursday and think about it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDJ0SAEru4&ab_channel=ThePatriotNurse

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to David LaRue on Fri Jun 20 23:54:26 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 13:49:20 -0000 (UTC), David LaRue wrote:

    It does look like [Iran] could build a bomb.

    US Intelligence and the IAEA are agreed in saying they have no such
    capability. It is only Netanyahu who has kept insisting that Iran will
    achieve such a capability soon, likely in a matter of months -- for the
    past 30 years.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Fri Jun 20 23:55:14 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 08:15:40 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    In article <1032c12$81tr$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 23:23:24 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    It's a country at WAR ...

    A war that it started.

    A lie, and irrelevant even if it were true.

    Trying to have it both ways?

    It was Israel that launched an unprovoked attack on Iran.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Fri Jun 20 23:58:47 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 08:28:23 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    In article <1032o8b$e9r1$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Not sure it has. The pretext for the attack on Iran was to stop them
    developing a nuclear weapon -- but both US intelligence and the IAEA
    are agreed that Iran is nowhere near capable of doing such a thing.

    That's BS.

    "Findings include 2003 tests of detonator for nuclear bomb..."

    That was the program that was suspended in 2003, with agreement to IAEA inspections thereafter. And then the deal that Obama engineered to keep
    them peaceful. Which Trump walked away from.

    Both US intelligence and the IAEA show no signs of getting anywhere close
    to a bomb since then.

    But of course Trump insists his own intelligence services are wrong,
    because he’d rather listen to Netanyahu and his made-up megalomaniacal fantasies. I guess that’s because one megalomaniac knows how to strike a chord with another ...

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Sat Jun 21 08:22:31 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <1034sd1$amsq$5@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    It was Israel

    It is Iran which had declared, in 1979, that it wants to destroy
    Israel, and which had been working towards that goal ever since.

    Iran is behind all the death and destruction in the Middle East.

    You can foolishly keep ignoring these facts, but they will not
    go away.

    Here, listen to what a smart person has to say about the issue.

    Sebastiaan Stoteler, on behalf of the PfE Group. --Madam President, the title of this
    so-called joint debate is a Christmas tree that perfectly demonstrates this Parliament's cluelessness when it comes to what's going on in the Middle East. Israel
    attacking nuclear facilities and military targets in Iran isn't causing instability.
    On the contrary, by removing the offensive and world-destructive nuclear capabilities
    of the repressive Islamist and terror regime of the IRGC, Israel is stabilising the
    region and safeguarding the world. You'd better believe the ayatollahs when they
    chant 'Death to Israel!', 'Death to America!' and 'Death to the West!', that it is
    their goal, their sole purpose.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Sat Jun 21 08:26:22 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <1034sjn$amsq$6@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Both US intelligence and the IAEA show no signs of getting anywhere close
    to a bomb since then.

    Liar.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Sat Jun 21 21:45:52 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 08:26:22 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    In article <1034sjn$amsq$6@dont-email.me>, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Both US intelligence and the IAEA show no signs of getting anywhere
    close to a bomb since then.

    Liar.

    Are you really that incapable of reading news reports for yourself?

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c056zqn6vvyo> <https://www.aljazeera.com/video/talk-to-al-jazeera/2025/6/19/iaea-chief-no-evidence-iran-is-building-a-nuclear-weapon>

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Sat Jun 21 21:59:49 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <103796g$19q5v$5@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Both US intelligence and the IAEA show no signs of getting anywhere
    close to a bomb since then.

    Liar.

    Are you really that incapable of reading news reports for yourself?

    Are you really stupid enough to believe that Iran isn't pursuing
    a nuclear weapon?

    https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/analysis-of-iaea-iran-verification-and-monitoring-report-may-2025/

    Iran can convert its current stock of 60 percent enriched uranium into 233 kg of WGU
    in three weeks at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP), enough for 9 nuclear weapons, taken as 25 kg of weapon-grade uranium (WGU) per weapon.
    Iran could produce its first quantity of 25 kg of WGU in Fordow in as little as two
    to three days.

    Breaking out in both Fordow and the Natanz Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP), the two facilities together could produce enough WGU for 11 nuclear weapons in the first
    month, enough for 15 nuclear weapons by the end of the second month, 19 by the end of
    the third month, 21 by the end of the fourth month, and 22 by the end of the fifth
    month.

    In front of the inspectors’ eyes, Iran is undertaking the near-final step of breaking
    out, now converting its 20 percent stock of enriched uranium into 60 percent enriched
    uranium at a greatly expanded rate, although this rate cannot be sustained much longer (see below).

    Iran has no civilian use or justification for its production of 60 percent enriched
    uranium, particularly at the level of hundreds of kilograms.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 21 22:01:24 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <10379bk$19q5v$6@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    [yawn]

    Iran's use of criminal networks as terrorist proxies in Europe -------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-10-2024-002059_EN.html
    The Iranian regime's use of criminal networks as terrorist proxies in Europe poses a
    grave threat to our internal security.

    Iran behind AMIA bombing
    ------------------------
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing

    Threading a Precarious Geopolitical Posture, Iran Seeks to Wreak Havoc in Europe
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    https://thesoufancenter.org/intelbrief-2025-may-7/

    Iran behind basically every terror organization in the Middle East ------------------------------------------------------------------ https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2021/iran/

    Iran behind attack on Saudi-Arabia oil facilities ------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abqaiq%E2%80%93Khurais_attack

    Iran's antisemitism and Holocaust denial ---------------------------------------- https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion/holocaust-denial-antisemitism-iran

    Iran's security service behind a special operation against targets in Sweden ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.rferl.org/a/sweden-blames-iranian-hackers-for-attack-urging-revenge-for-koran-burnings/33131987.html

    Iran, for years, sacrificed numerous Lebanese in pointless wars
    with Israel, by backing and arming Hezbollah ---------------------------------------------------------------
    "During the 2006 Lebanon War, Iranian Revolutionary Guards were believed
    to have directly assisted Hezbollah fighters in their attacks on Israel. Multiple sources suggested that hundreds of Revolutionary Guard operatives participated in the firing of rockets into Israel during the war, and
    secured Hezbollah's long-range missiles."

    Iran's oppression and mass executions
    ------------------------------------- https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/04/iran-executes-853-people-in-eight-year-high-amid-relentless-repression-and-renewed-war-on-drugs/
    https://theconversation.com/despite-un-warnings-irans-execution-of-kurds-and-political-dissidents-continues-unchecked-223138#:~:text=In%20the%20first%2011%20months,prisoners%2C%20including%20four%20on%20Jan.

    Mass rape, torture in Iranian jails
    ----------------------------------- https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20231206-rape-torture-used-to-silence-iran-s-mahsa-amini-protesters-amnesty-says

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Sat Jun 21 21:48:36 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 08:22:31 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    Iran is behind all the death and destruction in the Middle East.

    Who is the one invading most of its neighbours?

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Loose Cannon on Sat Jun 21 23:36:06 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 21:59:49 +0000 (UTC), Loose Cannon wrote:

    Are you really stupid enough to believe that Iran isn't pursuing a
    nuclear weapon?

    US intelligence and the IAEA both together, seem unable to find any
    evidence that it *is*. I figure if anybody ought to know, they would,
    don’t you?

    The only “evidence” that Iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb seems to
    be emanating solely from one source: Benjamin Netanyahu.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Sat Jun 21 23:37:52 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 22:01:24 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    Iran's use of criminal networks as terrorist proxies in Europe

    ...

    Iran behind basically every terror organization in the Middle East

    [blah blah blah]

    Except Netanyahu didn’t cite any of this in his pretext for going to war
    with Iran. Why not? He was concentrating on just one thing: Iran’s
    supposed attempts to build a nuclear bomb.

    Did any of your cited articles offer any evidence of that?

    Nope.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 05:22:22 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <1037fof$1bgm9$4@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    [sigh]

    Egad, you're a boring, stupid troll, if I've ever sen one.

    https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/analysis-of-iaea-iran-verification-and-monitoring-report-may-2025/

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 06:34:11 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <10387dk$cb84$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    [moronic trolling flushed]

    https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/analysis-of-iaea-iran-verification-and-monitoring-report-may-2025/

    Iran can convert its current stock of 60 percent enriched uranium into 233 kg of WGU
    in three weeks at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP), enough for 9 nuclear weapons, taken as 25 kg of weapon-grade uranium (WGU) per weapon.

    Iran could produce its first quantity of 25 kg of WGU in Fordow in as little as two
    to three days.

    Breaking out in both Fordow and the Natanz Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP), the two facilities together could produce enough WGU for 11 nuclear weapons in the first
    month, enough for 15 nuclear weapons by the end of the second month, 19 by the end of
    the third month, 21 by the end of the fourth month, and 22 by the end of the fifth
    month.

    In front of the inspectors eyes, Iran is undertaking the near-final step of breaking
    out, now converting its 20 percent stock of enriched uranium into 60 percent enriched
    uranium at a greatly expanded rate, although this rate cannot be sustained much longer (see below).

    Iran has no civilian use or justification for its production of 60 percent enriched
    uranium, particularly at the level of hundreds of kilograms.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 06:54:00 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 06:21:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 05:22:22 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/analysis-of-iaea-iran-verification-and-monitoring-report-may-2025/

    Where do they get info that US intelligence doesn’t have?

    [no answer]

    As I thought.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Sun Jun 22 06:21:41 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 05:22:22 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/analysis-of-iaea-iran-verification-and-monitoring-report-may-2025/

    Where do they get info that US intelligence doesn’t have?

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 07:40:51 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    In article <10389a8$cnol$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    [trolling flushed]

    Do you believe Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons?

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Loose Cannon on Fri Jun 27 05:44:35 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, soc.culture.israel

    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 07:40:51 +0000 (UTC), Loose Cannon wrote:

    Do you believe Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons?

    Let’s just say, now that they’ve been attacked by *two* nuclear-weapon-equipped countries, any discouragement that they have
    been under *not* to develop a nuclear weapon themselves, has just gone
    out the window.

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