• Major win for Democracy!

    From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 27 13:20:36 2025
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    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Jun 27 11:46:39 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to
    get it right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE
    injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction
    in one part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the
    country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jun 28 00:35:03 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Sat Jun 28 09:21:16 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide >injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    This is clearly lost on Alan.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jun 28 09:20:46 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 11:46:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to
    get it right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE >injunctions.

    Which is the win since the district courts have been acting like
    kings.

    Perhaps you should reread the article because the importance was
    clearly lost on you.


    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction
    in one part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the >country...


    Because it forces the judges to operate with only the powers they
    actually have??

    Dang dude...

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Jun 30 12:14:17 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen >>>> a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits- >>>> colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during
    Obama's years.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Mon Jun 30 12:13:49 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-06-27 21:35, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-
    limits- colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News
    to get it right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE
    injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an
    injunction in one part of the country that doesn't apply in other
    parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    So, during the Obama administration, you seemed to feel differently:

    The Fifth Circuit upheld a nationwide injunction initially issued by
    Judge Andrew Hanen of the Southern District of Texas against the federal government's implementation of DAPA in United States v. Texas.

    Judge Reed O'Connor of the Northern District of Texas issued a
    nationwide injunction to prevent the Obama administration from issuing
    its guidance that Title IX required institutions to allocate bathroom accessibility based on gender identity rather than biological sex. When
    the Department of Justice requested that Judge O'Connor narrow relief to
    the plaintiff states, he declined to do so.

    Judge Sam R. Cummings of the Northern District of Texas issued a
    nationwide injunction to prevent the Obama Administration from issuing a
    rule that would require employers to disclose certain activities with
    third parties related to dissuading labor unions.

    And Judge Virginia A. Phillips of the Central District of California
    held in 2010 that the federal government's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
    policy was unconstitutional and permanently enjoined the Secretary of
    Defense from enforcing it.

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jun 30 17:38:22 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 21:35, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen >>>> a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court- limits- >>>> colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get >>> it right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in >>> one part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country... >>>
    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    So, during the Obama administration, you seemed to feel differently:

    Quote me, with the message ID.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Jul 1 07:20:42 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that >>>>> had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal >>>>> abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen >>>>> a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts >>>>> to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits- >>>>> colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country... >>>>
    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during >Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking
    the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims
    like this, you should be able to support it.

    Also note that the Obama didn't challenge nationwide orders as Trump
    did.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Jul 1 10:51:34 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to >>>>>> block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that >>>>>> had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal >>>>>> abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen >>>>>> a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump >>>>>> said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law >>>>>> for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them. >>>>>>
    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts >>>>>> to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits- >>>>>> colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country... >>>>>
    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide >>>> injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during
    Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking
    the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims
    like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...


    Also note that the Obama didn't challenge nationwide orders as Trump
    did.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Tue Jul 1 14:18:43 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 6/28/25 00:35, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-
    limits- colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News
    to get it right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE
    injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an
    injunction in one part of the country that doesn't apply in other
    parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide injunctions.

    So what? Are you making an "absence of evidence" type of argument, or
    can you cite where Congress specifically restricted the authority of
    said lower Federal courts to only apply within their district?


    The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    Time will tell.


    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Jul 1 14:22:30 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 7/1/25 13:51, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to >>>>>>> block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something >>>>>>> that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal >>>>>>> abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've >>>>>>> seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from >>>>>>> getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump >>>>>>> said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law >>>>>>> for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them. >>>>>>>
    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower
    courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling >>>>>>> leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court- >>>>>>> limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox
    News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE
    injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an
    injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the
    country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such
    nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during
    Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it.  I'm asking
    the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims
    like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Precisely. Because a "zero" can't logically be proven, the burden for
    disprove Alan's "zero" is by NoBody showing instances where they've made
    an objection in the past (e.g. Obama administration).

    It only takes one such example to disprove Alan, but citing a handful of examples would make for a stronger case by revealing a pattern of
    consistency in position, instead of an isolated anomaly.


    -hh

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  • From cameron@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue Jul 1 19:36:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    -hh wrote:

    Time will tell.


    -hh



    In the USA, the final decision isn't up to anybody who is qualified, it's a bunch of appointed dip shits on the SCOTUS.

    What a shithole. They take fucking BRIBES!


    BANANA REPUBLIC USA

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  • From Marmalade King@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Jul 1 19:23:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    NoBody wrote:

    Judges can no longer abuse their power:


    It's time for the Supreme Court to decide if we really need democracy or if it's just a waste of money.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Jul 2 12:18:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to >>>>>>> block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that >>>>>>> had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal >>>>>>> abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen >>>>>>> a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from >>>>>>> getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump >>>>>>> said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law >>>>>>> for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them. >>>>>>>
    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts >>>>>>> to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling >>>>>>> leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits- >>>>>>> colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country... >>>>>>
    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide >>>>> injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during
    Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking
    the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims
    like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure
    to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.



    Also note that the Obama didn't challenge nationwide orders as Trump
    did.


    Silence

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Jul 2 09:29:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-07-02 09:18, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote: >>>>>
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to >>>>>>>> block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that >>>>>>>> had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal >>>>>>>> abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen >>>>>>>> a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from >>>>>>>> getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump >>>>>>>> said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law >>>>>>>> for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them. >>>>>>>>
    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts >>>>>>>> to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling >>>>>>>> leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country... >>>>>>>
    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide >>>>>> injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during >>>> Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking
    the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims
    like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure
    to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.

    You moved it from me saying you didn't object to insisting I show you
    "cheered" it.




    Also note that the Obama didn't challenge nationwide orders as Trump
    did.


    Silence

    How about because he respected the rulings of FEDERAL courts.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Wed Jul 2 19:41:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    Anonymous wrote:
    Clue: It's a *federal* court.

    Clue: Lower federal courts are divided up into DISTRICTS, Governor Shill.

    Moron.

    Get shot, Governor Shill.

    If you lose a lawsuit in New York, you do not have to pay if you move to
    Omaha.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Wed Jul 2 21:54:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-07-02 18:49, Anonymous wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous wrote:

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions.

    Clue:  It's a *federal* court.

    Clue: Lower federal courts are divided up into DISTRICTS, Governor Shill.

    And where in the statutes does it say that the cases they rule on ONLY
    apply within those districts?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Wed Jul 2 21:55:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-07-02 19:04, Anonymous wrote:
    -hh wrote:
    On 6/28/25 00:35, Anonymous wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that >>>>> had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the
    ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal >>>>> abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen >>>>> a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the
    rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts >>>>> to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the
    birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-
    limits- colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News
    to get it right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE
    injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an
    injunction in one part of the country that doesn't apply in other
    parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions.

    So what?  Are you making an "absence of evidence" type of argument, or
    can you cite where Congress specifically restricted the authority of
    said lower Federal courts to only apply within their district?

    Then why are lower federal courts, which only exist at the whim of
    Congress,
    divided up into districts?

    Because people live in different parts of the country.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Jul 2 22:37:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    Alan wrote:

    Then why are lower federal courts, which only exist at the whim of
    Congress,
    divided up into districts?

    Because people live in different parts of the country.

    Under the Bill of Rights criminal trials have to be near the crime.
    Without districts, the Supremes would be the only appellate court for
    all trial courts. By making court districts Congress could insert an intermediate layer of appellate courts between the Supremes and trial
    courts.

    Criminal trial decisions below the Supremes are restricted to that district.

    Civil trials are wherever the plaintiff initiates the matter. Appeals
    are still in the original district, but decisions do not have to be.
    Defendants can span multiple districts, but you do not have pursue them
    each district in a separate trial. One civil trial judgement follows the plaintiff everywhere they are.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Jul 3 09:39:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:29:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 09:18, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote: >>>>>>
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to >>>>>>>>> block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that >>>>>>>>> had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal >>>>>>>>> abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from >>>>>>>>> getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump >>>>>>>>> said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law >>>>>>>>> for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them. >>>>>>>>>
    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts >>>>>>>>> to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling >>>>>>>>> leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the >>>>>>>>> birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide >>>>>>> injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during >>>>> Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking
    the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims
    like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure
    to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.

    You moved it from me saying you didn't object to insisting I show you >"cheered" it.


    Once again you can't prove a negative. If you would like to claim my
    position on something, you're welcome to cite it.




    Also note that the Obama didn't challenge nationwide orders as Trump
    did.


    Silence

    How about because he respected the rulings of FEDERAL courts.

    What rulings of FEDERAL courts has Trump ignored? Honestly given that
    the Supreme Court has ruled that Federal Courts can't make nationwide injunctions yet continue to do so, perhaps it's time that he did.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Jul 3 09:40:29 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 21:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 18:49, Anonymous wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous wrote:

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide >>>> injunctions.

    Clue:  It's a *federal* court.

    Clue: Lower federal courts are divided up into DISTRICTS, Governor Shill.

    And where in the statutes does it say that the cases they rule on ONLY
    apply within those districts?

    See the most recent ruling from the Supreme Court for details.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Jul 3 07:55:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-07-03 06:39, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:29:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 09:18, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to >>>>>>>>>> block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal >>>>>>>>>> abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from >>>>>>>>>> getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump >>>>>>>>>> said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law >>>>>>>>>> for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them. >>>>>>>>>>
    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling >>>>>>>>>> leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the >>>>>>>>>> birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences.

    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct.

    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during >>>>>> Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking >>>>> the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims
    like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure
    to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.

    You moved it from me saying you didn't object to insisting I show you
    "cheered" it.


    Once again you can't prove a negative. If you would like to claim my position on something, you're welcome to cite it.

    Why don't you show where you ever ONCE objected.





    Also note that the Obama didn't challenge nationwide orders as Trump >>>>> did.


    Silence

    How about because he respected the rulings of FEDERAL courts.

    What rulings of FEDERAL courts has Trump ignored? Honestly given that
    the Supreme Court has ruled that Federal Courts can't make nationwide injunctions yet continue to do so, perhaps it's time that he did.

    What courts have "continue[d] to do so" after the USSC ruling?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Jul 4 09:02:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:55:45 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-03 06:40, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 21:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 18:49, Anonymous wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous wrote:

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide >>>>>> injunctions.

    Clue:  It's a *federal* court.

    Clue: Lower federal courts are divided up into DISTRICTS, Governor Shill. >>>
    And where in the statutes does it say that the cases they rule on ONLY
    apply within those districts?

    See the most recent ruling from the Supreme Court for details.

    I'm responding to the claim by Anonymous that CONGRESS is responsible.

    Actually he said that Congress did not authorize the lower courts to
    issue nationwide injunctions. He is correct and the Supreme Court has
    ruled that this authority does not exist. Thus, any judge that rules
    this way is acting in a lawless fashion.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Jul 4 09:08:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:55:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-03 06:39, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:29:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 09:18, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to >>>>>>>>>>> block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from >>>>>>>>>>> getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump >>>>>>>>>>> said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law >>>>>>>>>>> for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them. >>>>>>>>>>>
    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling >>>>>>>>>>> leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the >>>>>>>>>>> birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences. >>>>>>>>>>
    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct. >>>>>>>>
    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during >>>>>>> Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking >>>>>> the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims >>>>>> like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure >>>> to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.

    You moved it from me saying you didn't object to insisting I show you
    "cheered" it.


    Once again you can't prove a negative. If you would like to claim my
    position on something, you're welcome to cite it.

    Why don't you show where you ever ONCE objected.

    Once again you're asking me to prove a negative. Just because I
    haven't posted on something doesn't mean I approve of it.

    You've lost completely on this point. I think it's time for you to
    admit and move along.






    Also note that the Obama didn't challenge nationwide orders as Trump >>>>>> did.


    Silence

    How about because he respected the rulings of FEDERAL courts.

    What rulings of FEDERAL courts has Trump ignored? Honestly given that
    the Supreme Court has ruled that Federal Courts can't make nationwide
    injunctions yet continue to do so, perhaps it's time that he did.

    What courts have "continue[d] to do so" after the USSC ruling?


    "If the Supreme Court’s near-ban on nationwide injunctions was the earth-shattering victory President Donald Trump claimed, no one seems
    to have told his courtroom opponents.

    While the absence of that tool is clearly a sea change for the
    judiciary, early results indicate that judges see other paths to
    impose sweeping restrictions on government actions they deem unlawful.
    And those options remain viable in many major pending lawsuits against
    the administration.

    Since the high court’s ruling last Friday, U.S. District Judge
    Randolph Moss issued an extraordinary rejection of the president’s
    effort to ban asylum for most southern border-crossers, a ruling with nationwide effect."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/judges-still-broadly-blocking-trump-202312490.html

    "A federal judge in New York blocked the Trump administration from
    ending deportation protections for Haitians ahead of the date set
    under the Biden administration, the latest blow to efforts from
    Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem to end the legal status.

    U.S. District Court Judge Brian Cogan ruled Noem could not issue a
    “partial vacatur” of a decision by her predecessor that gave Haitians
    Temporary Protected Status (TPS) until February of next year.

    In February, Noem signed an order seeking to advance that date, moving
    to end protections for Haitians this August.

    “Plaintiffs’ injuries far outweigh any harm to the Government from a postponement. Without a postponement, plaintiffs face the termination
    of Haiti’s TPS designation on September 2, 2025 and the subsequent
    loss of their legal right to live and work in the United States,
    despite this Court’s finding that Secretary Noem’s partial vacatur of
    Haiti’s TPS designation was unlawful,” Cogan wrote."

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5381448-federal-judge-blocks-haiti-tps-end/

    Once again, you appear to think I don't come prepared for class.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dhu on Gate@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Jul 4 15:19:27 2025
    XPost: can.politics, alt.politics

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 09:08:06 -0400, NoBody wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:55:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-03 06:39, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:29:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 09:18, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from >>>>>>>>>>>> getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump >>>>>>>>>>>> said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling >>>>>>>>>>>> leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the >>>>>>>>>>>> birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case." >>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct. >>>>>>>>>
    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during >>>>>>>> Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking >>>>>>> the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims >>>>>>> like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure >>>>> to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.

    You moved it from me saying you didn't object to insisting I show you
    "cheered" it.


    Once again you can't prove a negative. If you would like to claim my
    position on something, you're welcome to cite it.

    Why don't you show where you ever ONCE objected.

    Once again you're asking me to prove a negative. Just because I
    haven't posted on something doesn't mean I approve of it.

    You've lost completely on this point. I think it's time for you to
    admit and move along.

    Don't hold your breath there. Alan is a 'crat-bot (like a crackpot but
    with a lot more endurance) of somekind.

    Dhu







    Also note that the Obama didn't challenge nationwide orders as Trump >>>>>>> did.


    Silence

    How about because he respected the rulings of FEDERAL courts.

    What rulings of FEDERAL courts has Trump ignored? Honestly given that
    the Supreme Court has ruled that Federal Courts can't make nationwide
    injunctions yet continue to do so, perhaps it's time that he did.

    What courts have "continue[d] to do so" after the USSC ruling?


    "If the Supreme CourtÂ’s near-ban on nationwide injunctions was the earth-shattering victory President Donald Trump claimed, no one seems
    to have told his courtroom opponents.

    While the absence of that tool is clearly a sea change for the
    judiciary, early results indicate that judges see other paths to
    impose sweeping restrictions on government actions they deem unlawful.
    And those options remain viable in many major pending lawsuits against
    the administration.

    Since the high courtÂ’s ruling last Friday, U.S. District Judge
    Randolph Moss issued an extraordinary rejection of the presidentÂ’s
    effort to ban asylum for most southern border-crossers, a ruling with nationwide effect."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/judges-still-broadly-blocking-trump-202312490.html

    "A federal judge in New York blocked the Trump administration from
    ending deportation protections for Haitians ahead of the date set
    under the Biden administration, the latest blow to efforts from
    Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem to end the legal status.

    U.S. District Court Judge Brian Cogan ruled Noem could not issue a
    “partial vacatur” of a decision by her predecessor that gave Haitians Temporary Protected Status (TPS) until February of next year.

    In February, Noem signed an order seeking to advance that date, moving
    to end protections for Haitians this August.

    “Plaintiffs’ injuries far outweigh any harm to the Government from a postponement. Without a postponement, plaintiffs face the termination
    of HaitiÂ’s TPS designation on September 2, 2025 and the subsequent
    loss of their legal right to live and work in the United States,
    despite this Court’s finding that Secretary Noem’s partial vacatur of Haiti’s TPS designation was unlawful,” Cogan wrote."

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5381448-federal-judge-blocks-haiti-tps-end/

    Once again, you appear to think I don't come prepared for class.

    --
    Je suis Canadien:
    Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais,
    C'est une esp`ece de sauvage.
    Ne obliviscaris: vix ea nostra voco!

    *A mari ad mari ad mari*

    Duncan Patton a Campbell

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Jul 4 09:30:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-07-04 06:08, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:55:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-03 06:39, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:29:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 09:18, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from >>>>>>>>>>>> getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump >>>>>>>>>>>> said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling >>>>>>>>>>>> leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the >>>>>>>>>>>> birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case." >>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct. >>>>>>>>>
    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during >>>>>>>> Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking >>>>>>> the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims >>>>>>> like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure >>>>> to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.

    You moved it from me saying you didn't object to insisting I show you
    "cheered" it.


    Once again you can't prove a negative. If you would like to claim my
    position on something, you're welcome to cite it.

    Why don't you show where you ever ONCE objected.

    Once again you're asking me to prove a negative. Just because I
    haven't posted on something doesn't mean I approve of it.

    You really haven't studied logic, have you?

    I'm asking you to DISPROVE a negative.


    You've lost completely on this point. I think it's time for you to
    admit and move along.

    Irony.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Jul 5 08:50:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 09:02:07 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:55:45 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-03 06:40, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 21:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 18:49, Anonymous wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous wrote:

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide >>>>>>> injunctions.

    Clue:  It's a *federal* court.

    Clue: Lower federal courts are divided up into DISTRICTS, Governor Shill. >>>>
    And where in the statutes does it say that the cases they rule on ONLY >>>> apply within those districts?

    See the most recent ruling from the Supreme Court for details.

    I'm responding to the claim by Anonymous that CONGRESS is responsible.

    Actually he said that Congress did not authorize the lower courts to
    issue nationwide injunctions. He is correct and the Supreme Court has
    ruled that this authority does not exist. Thus, any judge that rules
    this way is acting in a lawless fashion.

    <crickets.wav>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jul 5 08:49:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 09:30:01 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-04 06:08, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:55:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-03 06:39, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:29:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 09:18, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>>>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>>>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from >>>>>>>>>>>>> getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling >>>>>>>>>>>>> leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case." >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct. >>>>>>>>>>
    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during
    Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking >>>>>>>> the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims >>>>>>>> like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure >>>>>> to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.

    You moved it from me saying you didn't object to insisting I show you >>>>> "cheered" it.


    Once again you can't prove a negative. If you would like to claim my
    position on something, you're welcome to cite it.

    Why don't you show where you ever ONCE objected.

    Once again you're asking me to prove a negative. Just because I
    haven't posted on something doesn't mean I approve of it.

    You really haven't studied logic, have you?

    I'm asking you to DISPROVE a negative.


    Not posting something does not imply approval nor disapproval of a
    policy. You're still asking the same thing in a slightly different
    way.


    You've lost completely on this point. I think it's time for you to
    admit and move along.

    Irony.

    I see you are unable to understand basic logic.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Jul 6 09:28:44 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 08:49:15 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 09:30:01 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-04 06:08, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:55:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-03 06:39, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:29:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 09:18, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct. >>>>>>>>>>>
    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during
    Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking >>>>>>>>> the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims >>>>>>>>> like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure >>>>>>> to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.

    You moved it from me saying you didn't object to insisting I show you >>>>>> "cheered" it.


    Once again you can't prove a negative. If you would like to claim my >>>>> position on something, you're welcome to cite it.

    Why don't you show where you ever ONCE objected.

    Once again you're asking me to prove a negative. Just because I
    haven't posted on something doesn't mean I approve of it.

    You really haven't studied logic, have you?

    I'm asking you to DISPROVE a negative.


    Not posting something does not imply approval nor disapproval of a
    policy. You're still asking the same thing in a slightly different
    way.


    You've lost completely on this point. I think it's time for you to
    admit and move along.

    Irony.

    I see you are unable to understand basic logic.

    <crickets.wav>

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Jul 7 15:57:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-07-04 09:08, NoBody wrote:
    "If the Supreme Court’s near-ban on nationwide injunctions was the earth-shattering victory President Donald Trump claimed, no one seems
    to have told his courtroom opponents.

    While the absence of that tool is clearly a sea change for the
    judiciary, early results indicate that judges see other paths to
    impose sweeping restrictions on government actions they deem unlawful.
    And those options remain viable in many major pending lawsuits against
    the administration.

    Since the high court’s ruling last Friday, U.S. District Judge
    Randolph Moss issued an extraordinary rejection of the president’s
    effort to ban asylum for most southern border-crossers, a ruling with nationwide effect."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/judges-still-broadly-blocking- trump-202312490.html

    "A federal judge in New York blocked the Trump administration from
    ending deportation protections for Haitians ahead of the date set
    under the Biden administration, the latest blow to efforts from
    Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem to end the legal status.

    U.S. District Court Judge Brian Cogan ruled Noem could not issue a
    “partial vacatur” of a decision by her predecessor that gave Haitians Temporary Protected Status (TPS) until February of next year.

    In February, Noem signed an order seeking to advance that date, moving
    to end protections for Haitians this August.

    “Plaintiffs’ injuries far outweigh any harm to the Government from a postponement. Without a postponement, plaintiffs face the termination
    of Haiti’s TPS designation on September 2, 2025 and the subsequent
    loss of their legal right to live and work in the United States,
    despite this Court’s finding that Secretary Noem’s partial vacatur of Haiti’s TPS designation was unlawful,” Cogan wrote."

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5381448-federal-judge- blocks-haiti-tps-end/


    Once again, you appear to think I don't come prepared for class.

    Because in each of those cases, the judges didn't use nationwide
    injunctions, but avenues that the USSC ruling explicitly left available.

    So you really didn't prepare well at all, now did you?

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Jul 7 16:02:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-07-04 09:02, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:55:45 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-03 06:40, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 21:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 18:49, Anonymous wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous wrote:

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide >>>>>>> injunctions.

    Clue:  It's a *federal* court.

    Clue: Lower federal courts are divided up into DISTRICTS, Governor Shill. >>>>
    And where in the statutes does it say that the cases they rule on ONLY >>>> apply within those districts?

    See the most recent ruling from the Supreme Court for details.

    I'm responding to the claim by Anonymous that CONGRESS is responsible.

    Actually he said that Congress did not authorize the lower courts to
    issue nationwide injunctions. He is correct and the Supreme Court has
    ruled that this authority does not exist. Thus, any judge that rules
    this way is acting in a lawless fashion.

    So you think that federal law should vary from district to district?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Jul 7 16:01:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-07-05 08:49, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 09:30:01 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-04 06:08, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:55:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-03 06:39, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 09:29:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-02 09:18, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 10:51:34 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-07-01 04:20, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:14:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-06-28 06:21, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 00:35:03 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-27 10:20, NoBody wrote:
    Judges can no longer abuse their power:

    "President Donald Trump celebrated after the Supreme Court moved to
    block lower courts from issuing universal injunctions, something that
    had impacted his executive orders.

    The president held a news conference just over an hour after the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ruling was issued and said the Supreme Court had stopped a "colossal
    abuse of power."

    "I was elected on a historic mandate, but in recent months, we've seen
    a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rightful powers of the president to stop the American people from
    getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers," Trump
    said on Friday.

    Trump also accused lower court judges of trying to "dictate the law
    for the entire nation" rather than ruling on the cases before them.

    On Friday, Supreme Court Justices ruled 6-3 to allow the lower courts
    to issue injunctions only in limited instances, though the ruling
    leaves open the question of how the ruling will apply to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> birthright citizenship order at the heart of the case." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-celebrates-supreme-court-limits-
    colossal-abuse-power-federal-judges

    Count down for Lying Lee and Bradley's whining commences. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Wow. You read poorly. Or perhaps it's just that you trusted Fox News to get it
    right?

    The USSC only said federal district courts can't issue NATIONWIDE injunctions.

    And how is it a "win for democracy" that a court can grant an injunction in one
    part of the country that doesn't apply in other parts of the country...

    ...operating under the same federal laws?

    Congress never authorized lower federal courts to issue such nationwide
    injunctions. The Supreme Court's majority opinion was correct. >>>>>>>>>>>
    This is clearly lost on Alan.

    It's not lost on me that you didn't object when they were ruled during
    Obama's years.

    Quote me and include the message ID's where I cheered it. I'm asking >>>>>>>>> the same thing as Anonymous because if you're going to make claims >>>>>>>>> like this, you should be able to support it.

    Notice the little goalpost move...

    Not a goalpost move at all. You can't prove a negative. Your failure >>>>>>> to show y position during the Obama years is so noted.

    You moved it from me saying you didn't object to insisting I show you >>>>>> "cheered" it.


    Once again you can't prove a negative. If you would like to claim my >>>>> position on something, you're welcome to cite it.

    Why don't you show where you ever ONCE objected.

    Once again you're asking me to prove a negative. Just because I
    haven't posted on something doesn't mean I approve of it.

    You really haven't studied logic, have you?

    I'm asking you to DISPROVE a negative.


    Not posting something does not imply approval nor disapproval of a
    policy. You're still asking the same thing in a slightly different
    way.

    Nope. I'm pointing out the fact that you've never objected to this
    situation until it was applied against a Republican administration.



    You've lost completely on this point. I think it's time for you to
    admit and move along.

    Irony.

    I see you are unable to understand basic logic.

    I'm afraid that's YOU sunshine.

    Not posting in one circumstance where you whine loudly about the same
    basic issue when the political shoe is on the other foot implies your
    current stance is hypocritical.

    But you could clear all of this up by simply posting a single instance
    where you objected to nationwide injunctions imposed against Democratic policies, executive orders etc.

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