• Re: US expands militarized zones to 1/3 of southern border, stirring "c

    From c186282@21:1/5 to Doctor Fill on Sat Jul 5 01:44:06 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc XPost: misc.survivalism

    On 7/5/25 1:32 AM, Doctor Fill wrote:
    Typical of "legacy media" / "mainstream media", AP does the usual spin
    of painting border enforcement as somehow vaguely "eviL" and malevolent. Invaders, drug smugglers, and terrorists are all described as "migrants" while anti-white, anti-American organizations such as the ACLU are
    spoken of as if they were angels and saints.

    https://apnews.com/article/border-military-trump-national-defense-area-89f046e09809fe5b5071c6b9e1f48da9


    COLUMBUS, N.M. (AP) — Orange no-entry signs posted by the U.S. military
    in English and Spanish dot the New Mexico desert, where a border wall
    cuts past onion fields and parched ranches with tufts of tall grass
    growing amidst wiry brush and yucca trees.

    The Army has posted thousands of the warnings in New Mexico and western Texas, declaring a “restricted area by authority of the commander.” It’s
    part of a major shift that has thrust the military into border
    enforcement with Mexico like never before.

    The move places long stretches of the border under the supervision of
    nearby military bases, empowering U.S. troops to detain people who enter
    the country illegally and sidestep a law prohibiting military
    involvement in civilian law enforcement. It is done under the authority
    of the national emergency on the border declared by President Donald
    Trump on his first day in office.

    U.S. authorities say the zones are needed to close gaps in border
    enforcement and help in the wider fight against human smuggling networks
    and brutal drug cartels.

    The militarization is being challenged in court, and has been criticized
    by civil rights advocates, humanitarian aid groups and outdoor
    enthusiasts who object to being blocked from public lands while troops
    have free rein.

    Abbey Carpenter, a leader of a search-and-rescue group for missing
    migrants, said public access is being denied across sweltering stretches
    of desert where migrant deaths have surged.

    “Maybe there are more deaths, but we don’t know,” she said.

    Military expansion
    Two militarized zones form a buffer along 230 miles (370 kilometers) of border, from Fort Hancock, Texas, through El Paso and westward across
    vast New Mexico ranchlands.

    The Defense Department added an additional 250-mile (400-kilometer) zone
    last week in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley and plans another near Yuma,
    Arizona. Combined, the zones will cover nearly one-third of the U.S.
    border with Mexico.

    They are patrolled by at least 7,600 members of the armed forces, vastly expanding the U.S. government presence on the border.



    Reaction to the military buffer has been mixed among residents of New Mexico’s rural Luna County, where a strong culture of individual liberty
    is tempered by the desire to squelch networks bringing migrants and contraband across the border.

    “We as a family have always been very supportive of the mission, and
    very supportive of border security,” said James Johnson, a fourth-generation farmer overseeing seasonal laborers as they filled
    giant plastic crates with onions, earning $22 per container.

    Military deployments under prior presidents put “eyes and ears” on the border, Johnson said. This version is “trying to give some teeth.”

    But some hunters and hikers fear they’re being locked out of a rugged
    and cherished landscape.

    Tensions run high over management of federal public lands and wildlife
    at a Luna County Commission meeting in Deming, N.M., on June 12, 2025.
    (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)
    Tensions run high over management of federal public lands and wildlife
    at a Luna County Commission meeting in Deming, N.M., on June 12, 2025.
    (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)

    “I don’t want to go down there with my hunting rifle and all of a sudden somebody rolls up on me and says that I’m in a military zone,” said Ray Trejo, a coordinator for the New Mexico Wildlife Federation and a Luna
    County commissioner. “I don’t know if these folks have been taught to deescalate situations.”

    A former public school teacher of English as a second language, Trejo
    said military trespassing charges seem inhumane in an economy built on immigrant farm labor.

    “If the Army, Border Patrol, law enforcement in general are detaining people for reasons of transporting, of human smuggling, I don’t have a problem,” he said. “But people are coming into our country to work, stepping now all of a sudden into a military zone, and they have no idea.”

    Nicole Wieman, an Army command spokesperson, said the Army is
    negotiating possible public access for recreation and hunting, and will
    honor private rights to grazing and mining.

    Increased punishment
    More than 1,400 migrants have been charged with trespassing on military territory, facing a possible 18-month prison sentence for a first
    offense. That’s on top of an illegal entry charge that brings up to six months in custody. After that, most are turned over to U.S. Customs and Border Protection for likely deportation. There have been no apparent
    arrests of U.S. citizens.

    A sign warns against unauthorized entry into a militarized zone along
    the southern U.S. border in New Mexico on June 12, 2025. (AP
    Photo/Morgan Lee)
    A sign warns against unauthorized entry into a militarized zone along
    the southern U.S. border in New Mexico on June 12, 2025. (AP
    Photo/Morgan Lee)

    At a federal courthouse in Las Cruces, New Mexico, on the banks of the
    Upper Rio Grande, migrants in drab county jail jumpsuits and chains
    filed before a magistrate judge on a recent weekday.

    A 29-year-old Guatemalan woman struggled to understand instructions
    through a Spanish interpreter as she pleaded guilty to illegal entry. A
    judge set aside military trespassing charges for lack of evidence, but sentenced her to two weeks in jail before being transferred for likely deportation.

    “She sells pottery, she’s a very simple woman with a sixth-grade education,” a public defense attorney told the judge. “She told me she’s
    going back and she’s going to stay there.”

    Border crossings
    Border Patrol arrests along the southern border this year have dropped
    to the lowest level in six decades, including a 30% decrease in June
    from the prior month as attempted crossings dwindle. On June 28, the
    Border Patrol made only 137 arrests, a stark contrast with late 2023,
    when arrests topped 10,000 on the busiest days.

    The first militarized zones, introduced in April and May, extend west of
    El Paso past factories and cattle yards to partially encircle the New
    Mexico border village of Columbus, and its 1,450 residents. It was here
    that Mexican revolutionary forces led by Pancho Villa crossed into the
    U.S. in a deadly 1916 raid.

    Seasonal laborers harvest onions on a privately owned ranch along the southern U.S. border in an unincorporated area 15 miles west of
    Columbus, N.M., on June 12, 2025. (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)
    Seasonal laborers harvest onions on a privately owned ranch along the southern U.S. border in an unincorporated area 15 miles west of
    Columbus, N.M., on June 12, 2025. (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)

    These days, a port of entry at Columbus is where hundreds of children
    with U.S. citizenship cross daily from a bedroom community in Mexico to
    board public school buses and attend classes nearby.

    Columbus Mayor Philip Skinner, a Republican, says he’s seen the
    occasional military vehicle but no evidence of disruption in an area
    where illegal crossings have been rare.

    “We’re kind of not tuned in to this national politics,” Skinner said.

    Oversight is divided between U.S. Army commands in Fort Bliss, Texas,
    and Fort Huachuca, Arizona. The militarized zones sidestep the Posse Comitatus Act, an 1878 law that prohibits the military from conducting civilian law enforcement on U.S. soil.

    Russell Johnson, a rancher and former Border Patrol agent, said he
    welcomes the new militarized zone where his ranch borders Mexico on land leased from the Bureau of Land Management.

    “We have seen absolutely almost everything imaginable that can happen on the border, and most of it’s bad,” he said, recalling off-road vehicle chases on his ranch and lifeless bodies recovered by Border Patrol.

    A military transport and surveillance vehicle is parked in a newly
    designated national defense area on June 11, 2025, along the southern
    U.S. border in El Paso, Texas. (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)
    A military transport and surveillance vehicle is parked in a newly
    designated national defense area on June 11, 2025, along the southern
    U.S. border in El Paso, Texas. (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)

    In late April, he said, five armored military vehicles spent several
    days at a gap in the border wall, where construction was suspended at
    the outset of the Biden presidency. But, he said, he hasn’t seen much of the military in recent weeks.

    “The only thing that’s really changed is the little extra signage,” he said. “We’re not seeing the military presence out here like we kind of anticipated.”

    Court challenges
    Federal public defenders have challenged the military’s new oversight of public land in New Mexico, seizing on the arrest of a Mexican man for trespassing through remote terrain to test the legal waters.

    They decried the designation of a new military zone without
    congressional authorization “for the sole purpose of enabling military action on American soil” as “a matter of staggering and unpreceded political significance.” A judge has not ruled on the issue.


    The Joe/K "No Border" policy has to be aggressively
    reversed immediately. It won't always 'look good',
    but it HAS to be done.

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  • From Doctor Fill@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 10:30:47 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc XPost: misc.survivalism

    On 7/4/2025 11:44 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 7/5/25 1:32 AM, Doctor Fill wrote:
    Typical of "legacy media" / "mainstream media", AP does the usual spin
    of painting border enforcement as somehow vaguely "eviL" and
    malevolent. Invaders, drug smugglers, and terrorists are all described
    as "migrants" while anti-white, anti-American organizations such as
    the ACLU are spoken of as if they were angels and saints.

    https://apnews.com/article/border-military-trump-national-defense-
    area-89f046e09809fe5b5071c6b9e1f48da9

    COLUMBUS, N.M. (AP) — Orange no-entry signs posted by the U.S.
    military in English and Spanish dot the New Mexico desert, where a
    border wall cuts past onion fields and parched ranches with tufts of
    tall grass growing amidst wiry brush and yucca trees.

    The Army has posted thousands of the warnings in New Mexico and
    western Texas, declaring a “restricted area by authority of the
    commander.” It’s part of a major shift that has thrust the military
    into border enforcement with Mexico like never before.

    The move places long stretches of the border under the supervision of
    nearby military bases, empowering U.S. troops to detain people who
    enter the country illegally and sidestep a law prohibiting military
    involvement in civilian law enforcement. It is done under the
    authority of the national emergency on the border declared by
    President Donald Trump on his first day in office.

    U.S. authorities say the zones are needed to close gaps in border
    enforcement and help in the wider fight against human smuggling
    networks and brutal drug cartels.

    The militarization is being challenged in court, and has been
    criticized by civil rights advocates, humanitarian aid groups and
    outdoor enthusiasts who object to being blocked from public lands
    while troops have free rein.

    Abbey Carpenter, a leader of a search-and-rescue group for missing
    migrants, said public access is being denied across sweltering
    stretches of desert where migrant deaths have surged.

    “Maybe there are more deaths, but we don’t know,” she said.

    Military expansion
    Two militarized zones form a buffer along 230 miles (370 kilometers)
    of border, from Fort Hancock, Texas, through El Paso and westward
    across vast New Mexico ranchlands.

    The Defense Department added an additional 250-mile (400-kilometer)
    zone last week in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley and plans another near
    Yuma, Arizona. Combined, the zones will cover nearly one-third of the
    U.S. border with Mexico.

    They are patrolled by at least 7,600 members of the armed forces,
    vastly expanding the U.S. government presence on the border.



    Reaction to the military buffer has been mixed among residents of New
    Mexico’s rural Luna County, where a strong culture of individual
    liberty is tempered by the desire to squelch networks bringing
    migrants and contraband across the border.

    “We as a family have always been very supportive of the mission, and
    very supportive of border security,” said James Johnson, a fourth-
    generation farmer overseeing seasonal laborers as they filled giant
    plastic crates with onions, earning $22 per container.

    Military deployments under prior presidents put “eyes and ears” on the >> border, Johnson said. This version is “trying to give some teeth.”

    But some hunters and hikers fear they’re being locked out of a rugged
    and cherished landscape.

    Tensions run high over management of federal public lands and wildlife
    at a Luna County Commission meeting in Deming, N.M., on June 12, 2025.
    (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)
    Tensions run high over management of federal public lands and wildlife
    at a Luna County Commission meeting in Deming, N.M., on June 12, 2025.
    (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)

    “I don’t want to go down there with my hunting rifle and all of a
    sudden somebody rolls up on me and says that I’m in a military zone,”
    said Ray Trejo, a coordinator for the New Mexico Wildlife Federation
    and a Luna County commissioner. “I don’t know if these folks have been >> taught to deescalate situations.”

    A former public school teacher of English as a second language, Trejo
    said military trespassing charges seem inhumane in an economy built on
    immigrant farm labor.

    “If the Army, Border Patrol, law enforcement in general are detaining
    people for reasons of transporting, of human smuggling, I don’t have a
    problem,” he said. “But people are coming into our country to work,
    stepping now all of a sudden into a military zone, and they have no
    idea.”

    Nicole Wieman, an Army command spokesperson, said the Army is
    negotiating possible public access for recreation and hunting, and
    will honor private rights to grazing and mining.

    Increased punishment
    More than 1,400 migrants have been charged with trespassing on
    military territory, facing a possible 18-month prison sentence for a
    first offense. That’s on top of an illegal entry charge that brings up
    to six months in custody. After that, most are turned over to U.S.
    Customs and Border Protection for likely deportation. There have been
    no apparent arrests of U.S. citizens.

    A sign warns against unauthorized entry into a militarized zone along
    the southern U.S. border in New Mexico on June 12, 2025. (AP Photo/
    Morgan Lee)
    A sign warns against unauthorized entry into a militarized zone along
    the southern U.S. border in New Mexico on June 12, 2025. (AP Photo/
    Morgan Lee)

    At a federal courthouse in Las Cruces, New Mexico, on the banks of the
    Upper Rio Grande, migrants in drab county jail jumpsuits and chains
    filed before a magistrate judge on a recent weekday.

    A 29-year-old Guatemalan woman struggled to understand instructions
    through a Spanish interpreter as she pleaded guilty to illegal entry.
    A judge set aside military trespassing charges for lack of evidence,
    but sentenced her to two weeks in jail before being transferred for
    likely deportation.

    “She sells pottery, she’s a very simple woman with a sixth-grade
    education,” a public defense attorney told the judge. “She told me
    she’s going back and she’s going to stay there.”

    Border crossings
    Border Patrol arrests along the southern border this year have dropped
    to the lowest level in six decades, including a 30% decrease in June
    from the prior month as attempted crossings dwindle. On June 28, the
    Border Patrol made only 137 arrests, a stark contrast with late 2023,
    when arrests topped 10,000 on the busiest days.

    The first militarized zones, introduced in April and May, extend west
    of El Paso past factories and cattle yards to partially encircle the
    New Mexico border village of Columbus, and its 1,450 residents. It was
    here that Mexican revolutionary forces led by Pancho Villa crossed
    into the U.S. in a deadly 1916 raid.

    Seasonal laborers harvest onions on a privately owned ranch along the
    southern U.S. border in an unincorporated area 15 miles west of
    Columbus, N.M., on June 12, 2025. (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)
    Seasonal laborers harvest onions on a privately owned ranch along the
    southern U.S. border in an unincorporated area 15 miles west of
    Columbus, N.M., on June 12, 2025. (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)

    These days, a port of entry at Columbus is where hundreds of children
    with U.S. citizenship cross daily from a bedroom community in Mexico
    to board public school buses and attend classes nearby.

    Columbus Mayor Philip Skinner, a Republican, says he’s seen the
    occasional military vehicle but no evidence of disruption in an area
    where illegal crossings have been rare.

    “We’re kind of not tuned in to this national politics,” Skinner said. >>
    Oversight is divided between U.S. Army commands in Fort Bliss, Texas,
    and Fort Huachuca, Arizona. The militarized zones sidestep the Posse
    Comitatus Act, an 1878 law that prohibits the military from conducting
    civilian law enforcement on U.S. soil.

    Russell Johnson, a rancher and former Border Patrol agent, said he
    welcomes the new militarized zone where his ranch borders Mexico on
    land leased from the Bureau of Land Management.

    “We have seen absolutely almost everything imaginable that can happen
    on the border, and most of it’s bad,” he said, recalling off-road
    vehicle chases on his ranch and lifeless bodies recovered by Border
    Patrol.

    A military transport and surveillance vehicle is parked in a newly
    designated national defense area on June 11, 2025, along the southern
    U.S. border in El Paso, Texas. (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)
    A military transport and surveillance vehicle is parked in a newly
    designated national defense area on June 11, 2025, along the southern
    U.S. border in El Paso, Texas. (AP Photo/Morgan Lee)

    In late April, he said, five armored military vehicles spent several
    days at a gap in the border wall, where construction was suspended at
    the outset of the Biden presidency. But, he said, he hasn’t seen much
    of the military in recent weeks.

    “The only thing that’s really changed is the little extra signage,” he >> said. “We’re not seeing the military presence out here like we kind of >> anticipated.”

    Court challenges
    Federal public defenders have challenged the military’s new oversight
    of public land in New Mexico, seizing on the arrest of a Mexican man
    for trespassing through remote terrain to test the legal waters.

    They decried the designation of a new military zone without
    congressional authorization “for the sole purpose of enabling military
    action on American soil” as “a matter of staggering and unpreceded
    political significance.” A judge has not ruled on the issue.


      The Joe/K "No Border" policy has to be aggressively
      reversed immediately. It won't always 'look good',
      but it HAS to be done.



    Agreed.

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    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.

    ‘The quiet that follows an exchange of missiles should not be mistaken
    for peace. It is often the eye of the storm.’

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  • From Peter Kent Navarro@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 17:05:50 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, misc.survivalism

    All that military setting foot in Red State USA will lower the soaring
    violent crime in those ghastly shithole states.

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