• The Lie That Might Bring Down the Spies: Comey and Brennan Are Finally

    From useapen@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 12 07:04:58 2025
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    Now we are finally getting somewhere. Hopefully. Influential independent investigative journalist Matt Taibbi ran a story on his Substack Racket
    News yesterday headlined, At Last: John Brennan and James Comey Under Criminal Investigation for Russiagate.

    In the rush and tumble of the tsunami of anticlimactic disappointment over
    the strangely sudden end of the official Epstein investigation, a speck of
    hope appeared in the waves. It appeared in the form of a Fox News
    exclusive (i.e., a friendly leak), announcing that FBI Director Kash Patel
    has opened formal criminal investigations into former FBI Director James
    Comey and former CIA Chief John Brennan, for their roles in manufacturing
    the RussiaGate hoax, interfering in elections, and for their seditious
    efforts to overthrow the American government.

    Haha! Sorry! I was just kidding. Its not for that stuff. The two men are
    under investigation only for lying to Congress. And possibly for
    conspiring to lie to Congress.

    Taibbi did not directly confront that painful shortcoming. But he nodded
    to it. One of his sources, presumably connected to the House Intelligence Committee, said he was not disappointed the charges only related to
    perjury. You have to understand, theres no statute that really fits what these people did, the source said. But there is one against lying to Congress, and given that thats what they have to work with, (it) makes
    more sense to me now.

    The charge has a storied history. Back in the late 1940s, furious
    Republicans couldnt prove that Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy at least, not
    in any way that satisfied strict evidentiary demands. Hiss, a top-ranking
    State Department official and darling of the New Deal set (he helped draft
    the UN Charter), denied under oath that hed ever passed secrets to the
    Soviets or ever met his accuser and handler, defected Soviet spymaster Whittaker Chambers.

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    But Chambers delivered the goods: typewritten documents, a dramatic, Hollywood-style courtroom unveiling of a secret cache of microfilm inside
    a pumpkin, and a slow-burning credibility that ultimately trumped Hisss polished, white-shoed denials. In the end, espionage didnt bring Hiss
    down. It was perjury two counts. Thats what the jury latched onto like a submerged mine clamping onto a disguised trawler. Hiss got ten years, and
    maybe more importantly, his insidious influence was finally neutralized.

    The political impact was seismic. The Hiss case detonated the Cold War consensus and helped launch Richard Nixons career. More importantly, it
    set a precedent: when the crime is too vast, too murky, or too
    institutionally protected to prosecute directly, perjury becomes the
    precision tool. It is a thin but devastating charge when properly brought;
    its the legal equivalent of slipping a shiv between the ribs.

    Though the new investigations into Brennan and Comey might look limited,
    they draw from that same Alger Hiss energy, which probably explains why Taibbis source said no when asked if he was disappointed.

    Following the Alger Hiss benchmark, perjury has become a sort of default fallback for when the real crime is too untouchable, too complicated, or
    too inconvenient. Just ask Martha Stewart. The government never proved
    insider trading but they pinned misleading federal investigators on her,
    and down she went.

    Or Scooter Libby, not charged for leaking CIA operative Valerie Plames identity (he didnt), but for giving conflicting testimony during the hunt
    for the leaker. Or Barry Bonds, who wasnt convicted for taking steroids
    or for illegal gambling, but for denying his steroid use too smoothly
    under oath.

    So, while perjury might sound like a consolation prize, it has a lot to
    offer. To prove that crime, prosecutors need only show knowingly false statements under oath. Thats it. They dont need to untangle the entire Russiagate narrative. They dont need to march into the foggy swamps of subjective motives and tradecraft principles violations. They dont need
    to wrestle with qualified immunities. They dont even need to use the
    words conspiracy or coup.

    In other words, perjury is a prosecutorial shortcut, like convicting Al
    Capone for tax evasion. A shortcut that is exactly what the Administration needs just now. And even as a shortcut, its no small deal. Convictions of either Comey or Brennan would make history. No former FBI or CIA Director
    has ever been criminally charged or convicted for misconduct in office.

    Actually, these new investigations are already historic. Comey and Brennan
    are, ingloriously, the first former directors of their respective agencies
    to officially fall under formal criminal investigation. Theyre also the
    first to face potential perjury charges for official conduct while in
    office. Welcome to the record books, gentlemen.

    I dont know who in the Administration needs to hear this: nice work and
    so forth but what you absolutely dont need is another unsigned memo
    abruptly ending the Comey and Brennan investigations. Just saying.

    https://floppingaces.net/most-wanted/the-lie-that-might-bring-down-the- spies-comey-and-brennan-are-finally-cornered/

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to useapen on Sat Jul 12 03:51:14 2025
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    useapen wrote:

    I don’t know who in the Administration needs to hear this: nice work and
    so forth— but what you absolutely don’t need is another unsigned memo abruptly ending the Comey and Brennan investigations. Just saying.

    I forwarded this to the White House janitor & electrician. The
    electrician said he would put it up on his refrigerator.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Dutch@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 12 14:09:39 2025
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    On 12 Jul 2025, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> posted some news:XnsB31AD6BDBCCBX@135.181.20.170:

    Now we are finally getting somewhere. Hopefully. Influential
    independent investigative journalist Matt Taibbi ran a story on his
    Substack ‘Racket News’ yesterday headlined, “At Last: John Brennan and James Comey Under Criminal Investigation for Russiagate.”

    In the rush and tumble of the tsunami of anticlimactic disappointment
    over the strangely sudden end of the official Epstein investigation, a
    speck of hope appeared in the waves. It appeared in the form of a Fox
    News exclusive (i.e., a friendly leak), announcing that FBI Director
    Kash Patel has opened formal criminal investigations into former FBI
    Director James Comey and former CIA Chief John Brennan, for their
    roles in manufacturing the RussiaGate hoax, interfering in elections,
    and for their seditious efforts to overthrow the American government.

    Haha! Sorry! I was just kidding. It’s not for that stuff. The two men
    are under investigation only for lying to Congress. And possibly for conspiring to lie to Congress.

    Taibbi did not directly confront that painful shortcoming. But he
    nodded to it. One of his sources, presumably connected to the House Intelligence Committee, said he was not disappointed the charges only
    related to perjury. “You have to understand, there’s no statute that really fits what these people did,” the source said. “But there is one against lying to Congress, and given that that’s what they have to
    work with, (it) makes more sense to me now.”

    The charge has a storied history. Back in the late 1940s, furious
    Republicans couldn’t prove that Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy— at least, not in any way that satisfied strict evidentiary demands. Hiss, a
    top-ranking State Department official and darling of the New Deal set
    (he helped draft the UN Charter), denied under oath that he’d ever
    passed secrets to the Soviets or ever met his accuser and handler,
    defected Soviet spymaster Whittaker Chambers.

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!imY8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_a
    uto
    :good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-
    media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf703535-1a43-45da-b466- d30b7ffc03ee_668x306.png

    But Chambers delivered the goods: typewritten documents, a dramatic, Hollywood-style courtroom unveiling of a secret cache of microfilm
    inside a pumpkin, and a slow-burning credibility that ultimately
    trumped Hiss’s polished, white-shoed denials. In the end, espionage didn’t bring Hiss down. It was perjury— two counts. That’s what the jury latched onto like a submerged mine clamping onto a disguised
    trawler. Hiss got ten years, and maybe more importantly, his insidious influence was finally neutralized.

    The political impact was seismic. The Hiss case detonated the Cold War consensus and helped launch Richard Nixon’s career. More importantly,
    it set a precedent: when the crime is too vast, too murky, or too institutionally protected to prosecute directly, perjury becomes the precision tool. It is a thin but devastating charge when properly
    brought; it’s the legal equivalent of slipping a shiv between the
    ribs.

    Though the new investigations into Brennan and Comey might look
    limited, they draw from that same Alger Hiss energy, which probably
    explains why Taibbi’s source said ‘no’ when asked if he was disappointed.

    Following the Alger Hiss benchmark, perjury has become a sort of
    default fallback for when the real crime is too untouchable, too
    complicated, or too inconvenient. Just ask Martha Stewart. The
    government never proved insider trading— but they pinned misleading
    federal investigators on her, and down she went.

    Or Scooter Libby, not charged for leaking CIA operative Valerie
    Plame’s identity (he didn’t), but for giving conflicting testimony
    during the hunt for the leaker. Or Barry Bonds, who wasn’t convicted
    for taking steroids or for illegal gambling, but for denying his
    steroid use too smoothly under oath.

    So, while perjury might sound like a consolation prize, it has a lot
    to offer. To prove that crime, prosecutors need only show knowingly
    false statements under oath. That’s it. They don’t need to untangle
    the entire Russiagate narrative. They don’t need to march into the
    foggy swamps of subjective motives and “tradecraft principles violations.” They don’t need to wrestle with qualified immunities.
    They don’t even need to use the words ‘conspiracy’ or ‘coup.’

    In other words, perjury is a prosecutorial shortcut, like convicting
    Al Capone for tax evasion. A shortcut that is exactly what the
    Administration needs just now. And even as a shortcut, it’s no small
    deal. Convictions of either Comey or Brennan would make history. No
    former FBI or CIA Director has ever been criminally charged or
    convicted for misconduct in office.

    Actually, these new investigations are already historic. Comey and
    Brennan are, ingloriously, the first former directors of their
    respective agencies to officially fall under formal criminal
    investigation. They’re also the first to face potential perjury
    charges for official conduct while in office. Welcome to the record
    books, gentlemen.

    I don’t know who in the Administration needs to hear this: nice work
    and so forth— but what you absolutely don’t need is another unsigned
    memo abruptly ending the Comey and Brennan investigations. Just
    saying.

    https://floppingaces.net/most-wanted/the-lie-that-might-bring-down-the- spies-comey-and-brennan-are-finally-cornered/

    Good. Both those two disloyal assholes need to leave this world
    swinging at the end of ropes.

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