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On 2025-07-10 23:06, AlleyCat wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 15:37:42 +0000, Lee says...
Pam Bondi has tried to explained what happened to the missing
minute of footage from outside Jeffrey Epstein?s jail cell.
Didn't the Democrats have access to the Epstein files and videos
along with the Republicans at various times since they started being gathered?
No. Prove me wrong.
Why don't/didn't THEY expose the "missing minute"? If Democrats had
access to this video, wouldn't they have made copies and/or had seen
what seems to be missing now?
Shouldn't they KNOW what's on that tape? Why or why not?
If there's "dirt" on someone Republican, WHY didn't the Democrats
release all of the Epstein files and videos when THEY had control of
them?
They never had control of them.
Prove me wrong.
If you think Epstein didn't kill himself, then WHY did the Democrats
cover it up "too"?
Here's a general timeline of when Epstein files were gathered and
when significant portions became public:
You seem to have left out a few things...
2005-2008: Initial investigations by Palm Beach police and the FBI
began in 2005, leading to Epstein's arrest and a controversial plea
deal in Florida in 2008. Files from these law enforcement
investigations would have been gathered during this period.
2015-2017: Civil lawsuits, most notably the one filed by Virginia
Giuffre against Ghislaine Maxwell, led to extensive discovery
processes where many documents, depositions, and other pieces of
evidence were collected. These documents were often under seal or
heavily redacted at the time.
2019: Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on new federal sex trafficking
charges in New York. This initiated a new federal criminal
investigation, leading to the gathering of additional evidence and
files by federal authorities. He died in jail in August 2019.
June 2021:
'"Remember when we learned that our wealthiest and most powerful people
were connected to a guy who ran a literal child sex trafficking ring?
And then that guy died mysteriously in a jail? And now we just don't
talk about it," the future vice president [JD Vance] posted on X on June
4, 2021'
December 2021:
'"What possible interest would the US government have in keeping
Epstein’s clients secret? Oh…" Vance said in a post on X on Dec. 30, 2021.'
May 2023:
'"There are a lot of people who are knee-deep in the Washington swamp
who are not telling you the truth about serious allegations out there
that Epstein may have had video and audio of people out there doing
things they shouldn't have been doing," said Bongino, who was speaking
on the "The Dan Bongino Show"'
June 2023: Thousands of pages of records shedding light on Epstein's
final days in jail were obtained by The Associated Press, including
emails, psychological evaluations, and internal reports.
December 2023:
'Kash Patel, who would become Trump's FBI director, told right-wing
media personality Glenn Beck on Dec. 13, 2023, that the head of the FBI
under Biden had direct control of Epstein's "black book." "That's why
you don't have the black book," Patel added. "And, to me, that's a thing
I think President Trump should run on. On Day 1, roll out the 'black
book.'"'
'"It's the same thing with Epstein's list. It's like, what the hell are
these Republicans doing?" Patel said to right-wing media personality
Benny Johnson on Dec. 19, 2023, a few months after his "Government
Gangsters" book on an alleged anti-Trump "deep state" was published. He
said, "I don't care about the (Epstein) list itself, but release the
names, right? What the hell are the House Republicans doing? They have
the majority.'
'Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told Fox News' Jesse Watters on Dec. 5, 2023,
during his 2024 presidential election campaign: "We should get real
answers on what happened to Jeffrey Epstein and any of the high-level
political people that he was involved with. All of that should be open
to the public. It should be absolutely transparent." RFK Jr. now serves
as Trump's secretary for the U.S. Department of Health and Human
Services. He also told Watters, "I don't see why any of those records
would have any redactions in them. Why would we be hiding that from the American public? I think that's outrageous."'
January 2024: A federal court in New York ordered the unsealing of a
large trove of documents that had been collected as evidence in
Virginia Giuffre's civil lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell. This led
to the public release of hundreds of pages of previously sealed or
redacted documents, which is what many people refer to when they
talk about "the Epstein files" being released.
June 2024:
'"Yeah, yeah, I would (declassify the Epstein files)," Trump said on Fox
& Friends Weekend on June 3, 2024. "I think that less so because, you
know, you don't know if, you don't want to affect people's lives if it's
phony stuff in there, cause there's a lot of phony stuff with that whole
world. But I think I would." He also said, "Certainly about the way he (Epstein) died, it would be interesting to find out what happened there
because that was a weird situation and the cameras didn't happen to be
working, etcetera, etcetera. But yeah, I'd go a long way toward that one."'
'"How is it that my father can be convicted of 34 crimes, but no one on Epstein's list has even been brought to light?" Donald Trump Jr. said at
a Turning Point Action convention on June 17, 2024, as he was
campaigning on behalf of his father. "It's almost like they're trying to protect those pedophiles for some reason. I can't imagine why. We're not allowed to say they're groomers, but when they act a lot like groomers
(it) sort of tells you everything you need to know, right?"'
September 2024:
'"A lot of big people went to that island. But fortunately, I was not
one of them," former President Donald Trump said on podcaster Lex
Fridman's show on Sept. 3, 2024. Trump added that the list of Epstein's
clients who went to that island "probably will be" made public. "I'd
certainly take a look at it."'
October 2024:
'"Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list, Vance, then a U.S.
Senator and Trump's vice presidential pick, said on Oct. 22, 2024, on
podcaster Theo Von's show. "That, that is an important thing."'
February 2025:
'Asked whether the Justice Department might release the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients, Attorney General Pam Bondi told Fox News host John
Roberts Feb. 21, 2025, "It's sitting on my desk right now to review.
That's been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that."'
February 2025 (recent context): The Justice Department under
Attorney General Pam Bondi released a "first phase of declassified
Epstein files, " though reports indicated these largely contained
documents already in the public domain. The DOJ also stated that no
"client list" was found.
February 2025:
'Asked about Bondi's promise to release the Jeffrey Epstein files, then-counselor to the president Alina Habba said, "We are going to be
promises made, promises kept," in comments on Piers Morgan's show on
Feb. 27, 2025. "In this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly
disturbing. We have flight logs, we have information, names that will
come out." Habba, who is now the acting U.S. attorney for New Jersey,
also said, "I won't say they're guilty until they go through their time
in court, but again, now it's time for accountability."'
In summary, the gathering of "Epstein files" began with police
investigations in 2005 and continued through various criminal and
civil proceedings over nearly two decades. The most significant
public release of court-related documents occurred in January 2024.
So... if the democrats had access to these files and videos, WHY
haven't they exposed anyone of importance?
If you're naive enough to think that only Republicans are being
protected, I have some swampland...
'On July 7, the Justice Department, which Bondi leads as attorney
general, released a memo stating that a "systematic review revealed no incriminating 'client list'" and that Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide. "Perpetuating unfounded theories about Epstein serves neither" to combat
child exploitation nor bring justice to victims, according to the memo.
"No further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted," it said.'
I know whose in charge right now.
I know what the promised to do.
I know they haven't done it.
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