FOAD!
I'm in Australia, from what I read here in the short time Trump has
been in your Nation has moved ahead in leaps and bounds
Here's the 12 month graph of the DJIA
https://tinyurl.com/mr42wzbm
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 01:04:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wroteThat's what you Gypsy lady tell you
I'm in Australia, from what I read here in the short time Trump has
been in your Nation has moved ahead in leaps and bounds
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys
Here's the 12 month graph of the DJIA
https://tinyurl.com/mr42wzbm
That says NOTHING about the state of the economy, fuckwit
Yes, the DJIA has gone up by +10.5% YoY...
But note that half of this YoY time period was under Biden, not Trump,
so looking at performance since 1/20/2025, the DJIA's up just +1%.
Yeah, that means that a political split breakdown for YoY is:
Total: +10.5% YoY
Biden: +9.5%
Trump: +1%
Similarly, for the SP500:
Total: +11.3% YoY
Biden: +7.7%
Trump: +3.6%
And for the NASDAQ:
Total: +11.7% YoY
Biden: +7.2%
Trump: +4.5%
Plus we're now TACO'ed back to ~1 August to see about the fiscal
impact
on the Tariff war. If April's market response was an indicator, we're looking at a 14%-22% drop if there's not yet another TACO.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 12:02:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 11:27:15 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 13:52:33 +0200, 2nd Shift <2ndshift@rccabal.org>
wrote:
On 15 Jul 2025, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> posted some
news:6lgd7k5dlr4fj10thqs3ng92jjsqgacuu3@4ax.com:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 01:04:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wroteThat's what you Gypsy lady tell you
I'm in Australia, from what I read here in the short time Trump has >>>>>>> been in your Nation has moved ahead in leaps and bounds
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys
Here's the 12 month graph of the DJIA
https://tinyurl.com/mr42wzbm
That says NOTHING about the state of the economy, fuckwit
Yes, the DJIA has gone up by +10.5% YoY...
But note that half of this YoY time period was under Biden, not Trump, >>>>> so looking at performance since 1/20/2025, the DJIA's up just +1%.
Yeah, that means that a political split breakdown for YoY is:
Total: +10.5% YoY
Biden: +9.5%
Trump: +1%
Similarly, for the SP500:
Total: +11.3% YoY
Biden: +7.7%
Trump: +3.6%
And for the NASDAQ:
Total: +11.7% YoY
Biden: +7.2%
Trump: +4.5%
Plus we're now TACO'ed back to ~1 August to see about the fiscal
impact
on the Tariff war. If April's market response was an indicator, we're >>>>> looking at a 14%-22% drop if there's not yet another TACO.
Some of my investments got a 12% bump last month. Quite happy with
that.
In Australia ALL superannuation's invest a lot,
All super funds also have cash funds
the DOW going up helps their retirement.
Our share market follows the DOW
Bullshit it does
Bigcharts link to Australian version of DOW
https://tinyurl.com/mvfjyppd
That's not our version of the DOW
It is believed why the DOW goes up is because it's a safe haven
Only by fools
because of threats from war and international markets pour investment
into America.
In fact they buy US federal bonds in that situation
Seems even overseas investors believe in Donald Trump.
Then you need to get your seems machinery seen to, as always
In reality they are in fact betting on what the stock markets will?
do and Trump's tariff stupiditys make it very easy to trade on
the dramatic gyrations in the stock market that produces
Rod Speed was a unemployable government servant
They are generally Flameproof (can't be fired) even though they are
bombastic and know ambrosially nothing useful
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:48:02 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
You probably know this
In reality they are in fact betting on what the stock markets will?
do and Trump's tariff stupiditys make it very easy to trade on
the dramatic gyrations in the stock market that produces
FYI, there's been some pretty compelling evidence that someone's making
some big profits on insider trading based on Trump's announcements, more
so than merely the power traders, because of huge calls/puts purchased
in the minutes before said announcements were made.
But always with Stocks someone knows something before anyone else
That why I set up big charts with
Parabolic SAR
P/E Ratio
MACD
Volume+
Good lie detectors or smell when something's going bad or good or
Great
Before any official company announcement
Australian market I know and have a grasp of American market not so.
On 7/17/25 20:00, Petzl wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:48:02 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
You probably know this
In reality they are in fact betting on what the stock markets will?
do and Trump's tariff stupiditys make it very easy to trade on
the dramatic gyrations in the stock market that produces
FYI, there's been some pretty compelling evidence that someone's making
some big profits on insider trading based on Trump's announcements, more >>> so than merely the power traders, because of huge calls/puts purchased
in the minutes before said announcements were made.
But always with Stocks someone knows something before anyone else
That why I set up big charts with
Parabolic SAR
P/E Ratio
MACD
Volume+
Good lie detectors or smell when something's going bad or good or
Great
Before any official company announcement
Australian market I know and have a grasp of American market not so.
A friend who's more engaged than I am has done some statistical analysis
and their summary conclusion is that roughly 30% of a Stock's price in
the USA is due to some amount of price manipulation. Therefore, the
best strategy for the small guy is to "not play", which basically means
to not make trade: just buy & hold.
In any event, for the US market, its been 6 months since Trump's inauguration, so even the laziest/least capable investors can look to
their favorite market tracker tool/website and hit the "6 months" button
to see what that equity's performance has been.
For example, DJIA's at +0.63% ... that's an annualized rate of ~1.2%
Versus its long term average annual return of 10.46%, we see that
Trump's market is grossly under-performing vs its historical norm.
And FYI, its even worse so for the recent 10- and 5-year period averages (11.0% and 12.5%):
-hh
On 2025-07-18, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 7/17/25 20:00, Petzl wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:48:02 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
You probably know this
In reality they are in fact betting on what the stock markets will >>>>>> do and Trump's tariff stupiditys make it very easy to trade on?
the dramatic gyrations in the stock market that produces
FYI, there's been some pretty compelling evidence that someone's making >>>> some big profits on insider trading based on Trump's announcements, more >>>> so than merely the power traders, because of huge calls/puts purchased >>>> in the minutes before said announcements were made.
But always with Stocks someone knows something before anyone else
That why I set up big charts with
Parabolic SAR
P/E Ratio
MACD
Volume+
Good lie detectors or smell when something's going bad or good or
Great
Before any official company announcement
Australian market I know and have a grasp of American market not so.
A friend who's more engaged than I am has done some statistical analysis
and their summary conclusion is that roughly 30% of a Stock's price in
the USA is due to some amount of price manipulation. Therefore, the
best strategy for the small guy is to "not play", which basically means
to not make trade: just buy & hold.
You must be an absolute riot on the cocktail circuit.
OMG!
In any event, for the US market, its been 6 months since Trump's
inauguration, so even the laziest/least capable investors can look to
their favorite market tracker tool/website and hit the "6 months" button
to see what that equity's performance has been.
And the financial experts who predicted Trump's tariffs and other policies would sink the economy were wrong, once again.
For example, DJIA's at +0.63% ... that's an annualized rate of ~1.2%
Versus its long term average annual return of 10.46%, we see that
Trump's market is grossly under-performing vs its historical norm.
And FYI, its even worse so for the recent 10- and 5-year period averages
(11.0% and 12.5%):
-hh
Yawn.
If finance were such a science why are stock brokers and financial advisors still working as such?
Answer = it's more voodo than science and while some factors can be predicted with reasonable accuracy, most cannot.
Sit 10 financial experts in a room and ask them a finance question and you will
get 12 different answers.
My advice is to mimic what Pelosi is doing as she beat out the majority
of the top hedge fund and finance firms, by far.
Not bad for an alcoholic, corpse.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 15:52:39 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 7/17/25 20:00, Petzl wrote:good advice I'm retired getting a it doddery don't invest any more but
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:48:02 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
You probably know this
In reality they are in fact betting on what the stock markets will >>>>>> do and Trump's tariff stupiditys make it very easy to trade on?
the dramatic gyrations in the stock market that produces
FYI, there's been some pretty compelling evidence that someone's making >>>> some big profits on insider trading based on Trump's announcements, more >>>> so than merely the power traders, because of huge calls/puts purchased >>>> in the minutes before said announcements were made.
But always with Stocks someone knows something before anyone else
That why I set up big charts with
Parabolic SAR
P/E Ratio
MACD
Volume+
Good lie detectors or smell when something's going bad or good or
Great
Before any official company announcement
Australian market I know and have a grasp of American market not so.
A friend who's more engaged than I am has done some statistical analysis
and their summary conclusion is that roughly 30% of a Stock's price in
the USA is due to some amount of price manipulation. Therefore, the
best strategy for the small guy is to "not play", which basically means
to not make trade: just buy & hold.
In any event, for the US market, its been 6 months since Trump's
inauguration, so even the laziest/least capable investors can look to
their favorite market tracker tool/website and hit the "6 months" button
to see what that equity's performance has been.
For example, DJIA's at +0.63% ... that's an annualized rate of ~1.2%
Versus its long term average annual return of 10.46%, we see that
Trump's market is grossly under-performing vs its historical norm.
And FYI, its even worse so for the recent 10- and 5-year period averages
(11.0% and 12.5%):
-hh
did well on the Australian market.
After Covid all western economies have been impacted and in recovery
mode.
My reckoning on
Trumps "Big Beautiful Bill" is needed to try and stop the USA from
Going into a sovereign default
(when sovereign state fails or refuses to repay its debt in full when
it is due)
Hopefully Trump's bill is a success, but it is risky, and can turn
from "think big" to sink big
Australian government is full of multi-$billion losing sink big
schemes, like Solar, Wind generators, Snowy 2, now hydrogen, are all
showing that they are nothing but financial sink big schemes.
Then we also have politicians making fraud scams and milking our tax
dollars.
This is just one the two politicians Barnaby Joyce
(Coalition/Republican) Angus Taylor (Coalition/Republican)
No charges made all $80 million tax payers money went to Angus
Taylor's Cayman Islands account, no money recovered? <https://michaelwest.com.au/barnaby-joyce-80m-valuation-discrepancy/>
https://tinyurl.com/7ahnwzkb
Barnaby Joyce signed off $80m for Angus Taylor’s old company after
zero was paid for same sort of water nearby
snout and trotters in trough
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 21:32:05 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And the financial experts who predicted Trump's tariffs and other policies would
sink the economy were wrong, once again.
The tariffs have't been implemented yet but the economy has already
suffered a slowdown on the threat of them.
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 14:49:54 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
reset back to aus.politics,alt.politics.republicans,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump,sac.politics,talk.politics.guns
I'm in aus.politics
This is a different man at the wheel though?[various snips]
The BBB cuts revenue, so the risk of sovereign default is made higher,
not lower.
History shows you are right on "trickle-down" economics Trump's hasHopefully Trump's bill is a success, but it is risky, and can turn
from "think big" to sink big
From a fundamentals standpoint, its best argument attempt is merely
another rerun of "trickle-down" economics which has never delivered.
variants though?
Australian government is full of multi-$billion losing sink big
schemes, like Solar, Wind generators, Snowy 2, now hydrogen, are all
showing that they are nothing but financial sink big schemes.
It depends on what the accounting books really show. The power industry
cross-compares technological solutions with what's known as the LCOE -
Levelized Costs of Energy. For their commercial power generation, this
captures not only the cost of building the infrastructure, but also the
lifetime costs of operation and fuel.
The green energy promotion is leaving out the BIG transmission lines
cost on small power generation <https://www.perplexity.ai/search/the-green-energy-promotion-is-DCB3s82.StmXHyTECTfiRA>
https://tinyurl.com/yzayjnb5
"Promoting green energy—especially wind and solar—often emphasizes the low costs of generation but tends to downplay or omit the significant
expense of building large transmission lines required to deliver this
energy to where it’s needed. This is particularly relevant for small
or distributed power generation projects, where the costs may be disproportionately high compared to the scale of generation"
This paper is now dated (2019) but it shows that for the US power
market, solar/wind's LCOE's are literally half that of coal. Similarly,
they're even 25% cheaper than combined cycle natural gas:
<https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/repost-why-im-so-excited-about-solar>
...and while one can say "but what about batteries?", they've had a
similarly steep cost curve, such that with the above report's LCOE costs
now being five years old, there can be some battery capacity added to
solar/wind at effectively these same cost savings ratios.
TL;DR: green has a compelling life cycle cost advantage; its why China
has been going gangbusters on installing it for themselves...anyone in
the West who's not seeing these savings is probably being grifted.
Everything China and or Russia needs confirming, ..
Most Chinese don't have fridges yet the are being made there!
...
"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists.
Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.
When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying?
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 15:42:52 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-19, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 21:32:05 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And the financial experts who predicted Trump's tariffs and other policies would
sink the economy were wrong, once again.
The tariffs have't been implemented yet but the economy has already
suffered a slowdown on the threat of them.
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trumps-tariff-revenue-hit-another-monthly-record-june>
Looks to me like tariffs are generating income.
Tax increases are expected to generate revenue. Pity it's a tax on
the middle and working classes while the affluent and rich classes
skate.
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