Donald Trump has sued Rupert Murdoch and two Wall Street Journal
newspaper reporters for libel and slander over claims that he sent the
sex offender Jeffrey Epstein a lewd letter and sketch of a naked woman.
Trump’s lawsuit on Friday, which also targets Dow Jones and News Corp,
was filed in the southern district of Florida federal court in Miami.
The lawsuit seeks at least $10bn in damages.
It came after the Journal reported on a 50th birthday greeting that
Trump allegedly sent to Epstein in 2003 that included a sexually
suggestive drawing and reference to secrets they shared.
It was reportedly a contribution to a birthday album compiled by
Ghislaine Maxwell, who is serving a 20-year sentence in Florida after
being found guilty of sex-trafficking and other charges in 2021.
“A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly ‘Donald’ below her waist, mimicking pubic hair,” the Journal reported of the alleged drawing. The letter allegedly concluded: “Happy Birthday – and may every day be another wonderful secret.”
Trump vehemently denied the Journal report and claimed the letter was
fake. He said on Truth Social that he warned Murdoch, the founder of
News Corp, the newspaper’s parent company, that he planned to sue.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/18/trump-libel-lawsuit-wsj-d ow-jones-rupert-murdoch
He probably won't pursue it, that's what happens with a lot of his
impulsive lawsuits when he gets all hot & bothered over something.
He's going to have to sit for a deposition for hours before Murdoch's
lawyers and answer a lot of difficult questions, under oath and at risk
of perjury.
And no special treatment, it doesn't matter if he's the president of the
US or the Sheik of Araby.
Donald Trump has sued Rupert Murdoch and two Wall Street Journal
newspaper reporters for libel and slander over claims that he sent the
sex offender Jeffrey Epstein a lewd letter and sketch of a naked
woman.
Trump’s lawsuit on Friday, which also targets Dow Jones and News
Corp, was filed in the southern district of Florida federal court in
Miami.
The lawsuit seeks at least $10bn in damages.
It came after the Journal reported on a 50th birthday greeting that
Trump allegedly sent to Epstein in 2003 that included a sexually
suggestive drawing and reference to secrets they shared.
It was reportedly a contribution to a birthday album compiled by
Ghislaine Maxwell, who is serving a 20-year sentence in Florida after
being found guilty of sex-trafficking and other charges in 2021.
“A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future >president’s signature is a squiggly ‘Donald’ below her waist,
mimicking pubic hair,” the Journal reported of the alleged drawing.
The letter allegedly concluded: “Happy Birthday – and may every
day be another wonderful secret.”
Trump vehemently denied the Journal report and claimed the letter was
fake. He said on Truth Social that he warned Murdoch, the founder of
News Corp, the newspaper’s parent company, that he planned to sue.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/18/trump-libel-lawsuit-wsj
-d ow-jones-rupert-murdoch
super70s wrote:
He probably won't pursue it, that's what happens with a lot of his
impulsive lawsuits when he gets all hot & bothered over something.
He's going to have to sit for a deposition for hours before Murdoch's
lawyers and answer a lot of difficult questions, under oath and at risk
of perjury.
And no special treatment, it doesn't matter if he's the president of the
US or the Sheik of Araby.
In each of his ludicrous suits, TACO remembers he has to participate in discovery under oath. Then it is 'Never mind'.
On 7/19/2025 2:48 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
super70s wrote:
He probably won't pursue it, that's what happens with a lot of his
impulsive lawsuits when he gets all hot & bothered over something.
He's going to have to sit for a deposition for hours before
Murdoch's lawyers and answer a lot of difficult questions, under
oath and at risk of perjury.
And no special treatment, it doesn't matter if he's the president of
the US or the Sheik of Araby.
In each of his ludicrous suits, TACO remembers he has to participate
in discovery under oath. Then it is 'Never mind'.
Trump isn't the bad guy, the news sources who broke and ran with the
story are. The onus is on them to prove their case, not Trump. Looks
like a pretty clear case of slander and libel to me, but I'd only have
to sit on a jury.
On 7/19/2025 2:48 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
super70s wrote:
He probably won't pursue it, that's what happens with a lot of his
impulsive lawsuits when he gets all hot & bothered over something.
He's going to have to sit for a deposition for hours before
Murdoch's lawyers and answer a lot of difficult questions, under
oath and at risk of perjury.
And no special treatment, it doesn't matter if he's the president of
the US or the Sheik of Araby.
In each of his ludicrous suits, TACO remembers he has to participate
in discovery under oath. Then it is 'Never mind'.
Trump isn't the bad guy, the news sources who broke and ran with the
story are. The onus is on them to prove their case, not Trump. Looks
like a pretty clear case of slander and libel to me, but I'd only have
to sit on a jury.
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:@toxic.dizum.net:
Dave Cook <dc8@comcast.net> wrote in news:105hqju$4lt$3
of
On 7/19/2025 2:48 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
super70s wrote:
He probably won't pursue it, that's what happens with a lot of his
impulsive lawsuits when he gets all hot & bothered over something.
He's going to have to sit for a deposition for hours before
Murdoch's lawyers and answer a lot of difficult questions, under
oath and at risk of perjury.
And no special treatment, it doesn't matter if he's the president
Looksthe US or the Sheik of Araby.
In each of his ludicrous suits, TACO remembers he has to participate
in discovery under oath. Then it is 'Never mind'.
Trump isn't the bad guy, the news sources who broke and ran with the
story are. The onus is on them to prove their case, not Trump.
havelike a pretty clear case of slander and libel to me, but I'd only
to sit on a jury.You suck tRump's cock, do you lick his asshole too?
A typical Baxter counter-argument.
"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
-Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:wrote
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentter.@gmail.com>
hisin news:684q7kdabiuuuf16bjisvvj5nu7j89l7j5 >>@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com:
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:@toxic.dizum.net:
Dave Cook <dc8@comcast.net> wrote in news:105hqju$4lt$3
On 7/19/2025 2:48 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
super70s wrote:
He probably won't pursue it, that's what happens with a lot of
something.impulsive lawsuits when he gets all hot & bothered over
participateof
He's going to have to sit for a deposition for hours before
Murdoch's lawyers and answer a lot of difficult questions, under >>>>>>> oath and at risk of perjury.
And no special treatment, it doesn't matter if he's the president
the US or the Sheik of Araby.
In each of his ludicrous suits, TACO remembers he has to
thein discovery under oath. Then it is 'Never mind'.
Trump isn't the bad guy, the news sources who broke and ran with
Looksstory are. The onus is on them to prove their case, not Trump.
havelike a pretty clear case of slander and libel to me, but I'd only
to sit on a jury.You suck tRump's cock, do you lick his asshole too?
A typical Baxter counter-argument.
"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
-Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP
That's YOUR kind of "argument" -
Projection. That's what Baxter uses when he realizes he's been out maneuvered, out gunned, a day late, and caught lying again.
.
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentter.@gmail.com>
wrote in news:guaq7k9r65lcmpfvbufv0f9c1su52g7h3b@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksu
ck ing.dwarf.com:
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:wrote
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentter.@gmail.com>
hisin news:684q7kdabiuuuf16bjisvvj5nu7j89l7j5 >>>@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com:
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
Dave Cook <dc8@comcast.net> wrote in news:105hqju$4lt$3 >>>@toxic.dizum.net:
On 7/19/2025 2:48 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
super70s wrote:
He probably won't pursue it, that's what happens with a lot of
something.impulsive lawsuits when he gets all hot & bothered over
participateof
He's going to have to sit for a deposition for hours before
Murdoch's lawyers and answer a lot of difficult questions,
under oath and at risk of perjury.
And no special treatment, it doesn't matter if he's the
president
the US or the Sheik of Araby.
In each of his ludicrous suits, TACO remembers he has to
thein discovery under oath. Then it is 'Never mind'.
Trump isn't the bad guy, the news sources who broke and ran with
Looksstory are. The onus is on them to prove their case, not Trump.
like a pretty clear case of slander and libel to me, but I'd only >>>haveYou suck tRump's cock, do you lick his asshole too?
to sit on a jury.
A typical Baxter counter-argument.
"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
-Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP
That's YOUR kind of "argument" -
Projection. That's what Baxter uses when he realizes he's been out
maneuvered, out gunned, a day late, and caught lying again.
.
KKKlaun is not here to actually argue facts or merits, he's a troll
here to call people nasty names.
On 20 Jul 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:105jgrk$3h0at$2@dont-email.me:news:guaq7k9r65lcmpfvbufv0f9c1su52g7h3b@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksu
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentter.@gmail.com>
wrote in
ck ing.dwarf.com:
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:wrote
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentter.@gmail.com>
hisin news:684q7kdabiuuuf16bjisvvj5nu7j89l7j5 >>>>@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com:
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
Dave Cook <dc8@comcast.net> wrote in news:105hqju$4lt$3 >>>>@toxic.dizum.net:
On 7/19/2025 2:48 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
super70s wrote:
He probably won't pursue it, that's what happens with a lot of
something.impulsive lawsuits when he gets all hot & bothered over
participateof
He's going to have to sit for a deposition for hours before
Murdoch's lawyers and answer a lot of difficult questions,
under oath and at risk of perjury.
And no special treatment, it doesn't matter if he's the
president
the US or the Sheik of Araby.
In each of his ludicrous suits, TACO remembers he has to
thein discovery under oath. Then it is 'Never mind'.
Trump isn't the bad guy, the news sources who broke and ran with
story are. The onus is on them to prove their case, not Trump. >>>>LooksYou suck tRump's cock, do you lick his asshole too?
like a pretty clear case of slander and libel to me, but I'd only >>>>have
to sit on a jury.
A typical Baxter counter-argument.
"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
-Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP
That's YOUR kind of "argument" -
Projection. That's what Baxter uses when he realizes he's been out
maneuvered, out gunned, a day late, and caught lying again.
.
KKKlaun is not here to actually argue facts or merits, he's a troll
here to call people nasty names.
He called you Baxter.
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in news:ja- cnWQVSoqZdxv1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
The only thing Trump fights is his way
to the door when challenged over anything.
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:64dm8ktu46jvgdfg4i7127uf6gc44a4779@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:01:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>They
wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106e5ro$3esmq$1@dont- >>>email.me:
On 2025-07-30, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:v9sk8kpq4sbidu53g8g64qd12chtkig38k@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 18:51:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>>>>>news:106dc21$38kcu$3@dont-email.me:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>>Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away.
policy.don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff
253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=
So you like paying a Sales Tax?!
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break- >>>>> monthl
y-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%
along6888
daf402cd4b00019b7613>
Part of negotiating is adjusting the demands and concessions
water.the
way. Sometimes the baby needs to be thrown out with the bath
thatSometimes it's best to just walk away. Hamas is well known for
upThe short answer is all the things the Biden administration screwedLike what? What is getting "fixed"?one.
At least Trump is trying to fix things.
Actually, he's not - he's only interested in Grift.
Some policies will work and some may not.
The last thing this country needs is a do nothing POTUS.
But so much is getting fixed..
and the list is lengthy.
The Pothead Creed:
2021 - Look what Biden is doing!
2022 - Look what Biden is doing!
2023 - Look what Biden is doing!
2024 - Look what Biden is doing!
2025 - WHy are you so fixated the
current president? Let's talk about
Biden!
Everyone is talking about Trump. On the other hand, Democrats don't
want to talk about Biden....
tRump is pResident, Biden is not. Why should we be talking about Biden
and not tRump?
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:sddm8kpbtvbg2gsojnoa5ufn9mll06sqp1@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:46:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:fj8l8k5jjlikg47tn85b46k1eocokdg2mp@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
Let's start with the Border - yeah, immigration has been reduced, butLike what? What is getting "fixed"?
The border problem has been fixed
The illegals problem is getting fixed
The men in women's athletics is getting fixed
The trade deficits are getting fixed
The loss of US manufacturing is getting fixed
The IC vehicles problem is getting fixed
The gas and oil problems are getting fixed
Need I go on?
How are any of these problems? And, no, they're NOT "getting fixed".
<LOL> Explain how they're not getting fixed if you can't understand
how they're problems?
More actual problems are being created by these efforts to "fix".
What "actual problems" are being created?
drugs and criminals have not, and now we have the problem that Tourism
has also dropped - leading to job losses, and American hospitality
businesses failing.
You, on the other hand, cannot explain how immigration was ever a
problem. All you can do is lie about it.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:emdm8k54uamuo1ao3eenafd6r5j1n35i5u@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:48:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:h19l8k1kuunshouli9189aojlj2piha0tl@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 22:20:41 -0000 (UTC), potheadtRump doesn't know that Japanese brand cars are being made in the US.
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote inThe short answer is all the things the Biden administration screwed >>>>>up and the list is lengthy.
news:v9sk8kpq4sbidu53g8g64qd12chtkig38k@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 18:51:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxtermonthl
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:106dc21$38kcu$3@dont-email.me:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. >>>>>>>>>> They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff
policy.
So you like paying a Sales Tax?!
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break >>>>>>>>> -
6888y-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>>253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=
thedaf402cd4b00019b7613>
Part of negotiating is adjusting the demands and concessions >>>>>>>>> along
Like what? What is getting "fixed"?way. Sometimes the baby needs to be thrown out with the bath >>>water.
Sometimes it's best to just walk away. Hamas is well known for >>>that
one.
At least Trump is trying to fix things.
Actually, he's not - he's only interested in Grift.
Some policies will work and some may not.
The last thing this country needs is a do nothing POTUS.
But so much is getting fixed..
The "US President doesn't know is ass from a hole in the ground" has
been fixed.
He not only knows it, he's encouraging more of it with the trade
bargaining.
tRump: Try building your cars in the United States instead of shipping
them over, Trump implored during a briefing with business executives
before asking, Thats not rude?
Honda has factories building cars in 3 states.
Nor have you looked at his "trade bargaining" - If Honda builds the car
in Japan, US buyers pay a 15% sales tax, but if Honda continues to build
cars in the US, buyers will pay 50% sales tax on the steel used and parts >imported - parts that are not and cannot be made in the US.
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They
don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They
don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax and
an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales tax,
way to take care of your people Trump.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:48:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:h19l8k1kuunshouli9189aojlj2piha0tl@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 22:20:41 -0000 (UTC), pothead253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:v9sk8kpq4sbidu53g8g64qd12chtkig38k@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 18:51:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:106dc21$38kcu$3@dont-email.me:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), potheadSo you like paying a Sales Tax?!
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They >>>>>>>>> don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy. >>>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break- >>>>> monthl
y-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%
water.6888
daf402cd4b00019b7613>
Part of negotiating is adjusting the demands and concessions along >>>>> the
way. Sometimes the baby needs to be thrown out with the bath
thatSometimes it's best to just walk away. Hamas is well known for
tRump doesn't know that Japanese brand cars are being made in the US.The short answer is all the things the Biden administration screwed up >>>> and the list is lengthy.Like what? What is getting "fixed"?one.
At least Trump is trying to fix things.
Actually, he's not - he's only interested in Grift.
Some policies will work and some may not.
The last thing this country needs is a do nothing POTUS.
But so much is getting fixed..
The "US President doesn't know is ass from a hole in the ground" has
been fixed.
He not only knows it, he's encouraging more of it with the trade
bargaining.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:17:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:sddm8kpbtvbg2gsojnoa5ufn9mll06sqp1@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:46:59 -0000 (UTC), BaxterLet's start with the Border - yeah, immigration has been reduced, but
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:fj8l8k5jjlikg47tn85b46k1eocokdg2mp@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
Like what? What is getting "fixed"?
The border problem has been fixed
The illegals problem is getting fixed
The men in women's athletics is getting fixed
The trade deficits are getting fixed
The loss of US manufacturing is getting fixed
The IC vehicles problem is getting fixed
The gas and oil problems are getting fixed
Need I go on?
How are any of these problems? And, no, they're NOT "getting fixed".
<LOL> Explain how they're not getting fixed if you can't understand
how they're problems?
More actual problems are being created by these efforts to "fix".
What "actual problems" are being created?
drugs and criminals have not, and now we have the problem that Tourism
has also dropped - leading to job losses, and American hospitality
businesses failing.
You, on the other hand, cannot explain how immigration was ever a
problem. All you can do is lie about it.
<LOL> As if illegal border crossings doesn't create problems.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They
don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax and
an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales tax,
way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, the
more you pay.
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They >>>>>>> don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy. >>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax and
an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales tax,
way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, the
more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. They are >*proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are considered regressive with
respect to income because a given amount of tax represents a smaller percentage
of a high income than it does of a lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax >rate and something sells for $1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For
someone earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of
his income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you to, given >that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in number. >"LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either "LeftistsDon't," or >"LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just illiterate and stupid.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They >>>>>>>> don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy. >>>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax and >>>> an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales tax, >>>> way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, the
more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. They are
*proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are considered regressive with
respect to income because a given amount of tax represents a smaller percentage
of a high income than it does of a lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax >> rate and something sells for $1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For
someone earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of
his income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you to, given
that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in number.
"LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either "LeftistsDon't," or >> "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
The border problem has been fixed
The illegals problem is getting fixed
The men in women's athletics is getting fixed
The trade deficits are getting fixed
The loss of US manufacturing is getting fixed
The IC vehicles problem is getting fixed
The gas and oil problems are getting fixed
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:13:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:64dm8ktu46jvgdfg4i7127uf6gc44a4779@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:01:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>They
wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106e5ro$3esmq$1@dont- >>>>email.me:
On 2025-07-30, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:v9sk8kpq4sbidu53g8g64qd12chtkig38k@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 18:51:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:106dc21$38kcu$3@dont-email.me:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away.
policy.don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff
along6888
So you like paying a Sales Tax?!
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break- >>>>>> monthl
y-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=
daf402cd4b00019b7613>
Part of negotiating is adjusting the demands and concessions
water.the
way. Sometimes the baby needs to be thrown out with the bath
thatSometimes it's best to just walk away. Hamas is well known for
upThe short answer is all the things the Biden administration screwedLike what? What is getting "fixed"?one.
At least Trump is trying to fix things.
Actually, he's not - he's only interested in Grift.
Some policies will work and some may not.
The last thing this country needs is a do nothing POTUS.
But so much is getting fixed..
and the list is lengthy.
The Pothead Creed:
2021 - Look what Biden is doing!
2022 - Look what Biden is doing!
2023 - Look what Biden is doing!
2024 - Look what Biden is doing!
2025 - WHy are you so fixated the
current president? Let's talk about
Biden!
Everyone is talking about Trump. On the other hand, Democrats don't
want to talk about Biden....
tRump is pResident, Biden is not. Why should we be talking about Biden
and not tRump?
The Biden administration was a disaster. We need to examine it to make
sure we never again elect such incapable persons as Biden and Harris.
Baxter wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:sddm8kpbtvbg2gsojnoa5ufn9mll06sqp1@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:46:59 -0000 (UTC), BaxterLet's start with the Border - yeah, immigration has been reduced, but
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:fj8l8k5jjlikg47tn85b46k1eocokdg2mp@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
Like what? What is getting "fixed"?
The border problem has been fixed
The illegals problem is getting fixed
The men in women's athletics is getting fixed
The trade deficits are getting fixed
The loss of US manufacturing is getting fixed
The IC vehicles problem is getting fixed
The gas and oil problems are getting fixed
Need I go on?
How are any of these problems? And, no, they're NOT "getting fixed".
<LOL> Explain how they're not getting fixed if you can't understand
how they're problems?
More actual problems are being created by these efforts to "fix".
What "actual problems" are being created?
drugs and criminals have not, and now we have the problem that Tourism
has also dropped - leading to job losses, and American hospitality
businesses failing.
You, on the other hand, cannot explain how immigration was ever a
problem. All you can do is lie about it.
When white dudes are no longer the majority, the country is over.
On 7/31/25 11:27, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They
don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Oh, so you've already filed your 2026 federal income taxes?
-hh
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They >>>>>>>> don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy. >>>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax and >>>> an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales tax, >>>> way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, the
more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. They are
*proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are considered regressive with
respect to income because a given amount of tax represents a smaller percentage
of a high income than it does of a lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax >>rate and something sells for $1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For
someone earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of
his income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you to, given
that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in number. >>"LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either "LeftistsDon't," or >>"LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
On 2025-07-31, LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org>
wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:13:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter >><bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
The Pothead Creed:
2021 - Look what Biden is doing!
2022 - Look what Biden is doing!
2023 - Look what Biden is doing!
2024 - Look what Biden is doing!
2025 - WHy are you so fixated the
current president? Let's talk about
Biden!
Everyone is talking about Trump. On the other hand, Democrats don't
want to talk about Biden....
tRump is pResident, Biden is not. Why should we be talking about
Biden and not tRump?
The Biden administration was a disaster. We need to examine it to
make sure we never again elect such incapable persons as Biden and
Harris.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This....
Plus comparisons need to be made, both ways.
The good and the bad.
Talking about both is the only way to do that.
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They
don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-month >>>ly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=68 >>>88daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were +not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
Part of negotiating is adjusting the demands and concessions along
the way. Sometimes the baby needs to be thrown out with the bath
water. Sometimes it's best to just walk away. Hamas is well known for >>>that one.
At least Trump is trying to fix things.
Some policies will work and some may not.
The last thing this country needs is a do nothing POTUS.
So now Japan and the EU are limited to 15% tariffs while US
manufacturers face 50% tariffs on imported raw materials.
Gee whiz! Such a deal!
Time will tell how it all works out, including investment
in manufacturing in the US.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:17:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:sddm8kpbtvbg2gsojnoa5ufn9mll06sqp1@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:46:59 -0000 (UTC), BaxterLet's start with the Border - yeah, immigration has been reduced, but
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:fj8l8k5jjlikg47tn85b46k1eocokdg2mp@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
Like what? What is getting "fixed"?
The border problem has been fixed
The illegals problem is getting fixed
The men in women's athletics is getting fixed
The trade deficits are getting fixed
The loss of US manufacturing is getting fixed
The IC vehicles problem is getting fixed
The gas and oil problems are getting fixed
Need I go on?
How are any of these problems? And, no, they're NOT "getting fixed".
<LOL> Explain how they're not getting fixed if you can't understand
how they're problems?
More actual problems are being created by these efforts to "fix".
What "actual problems" are being created?
drugs and criminals have not, and now we have the problem that Tourism
has also dropped - leading to job losses, and American hospitality >>businesses failing.
You, on the other hand, cannot explain how immigration was ever a
problem. All you can do is lie about it.
<LOL> As if illegal border crossings doesn't create problems.
On 2025-07-30, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:106dc21$38kcu$3@dont-email.me:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They
don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy.
So you like paying a Sales Tax?!
No. I feel it's a ripoff.
As of today, I have not seen any increase in sales tax.
Have you?
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthl
y-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888
daf402cd4b00019b7613>
Part of negotiating is adjusting the demands and concessions along the
way. Sometimes the baby needs to be thrown out with the bath water.
Sometimes it's best to just walk away. Hamas is well known for that
one.
At least Trump is trying to fix things.
Actually, he's not - he's only interested in Grift.
Your TDS is showing.
Get it treated.
On 2025-07-31, LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote:
The Biden administration was a disaster. We need to examine it to make
sure we never again elect such incapable persons as Biden and Harris.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This....
Plus comparisons need to be made, both ways.
The good and the bad.
Talking about both is the only way to do that.
It's called sarcasm. Siri's wit can be extremely dry.When white dudes are no longer the majority, the country is over.
Wrong. I don't believe that at all and neither does anyone I know.
You are listening to MSDNC too much.
Meanwhile you are more than happy to ignore facts.Plus comparisons need to be made, both ways.
The good and the bad.
Talking about both is the only way to do that.
The WokieLeft was MORE than happy to totally
ignore Joe being a jelly-brain so long as their
Great Cause went forward.
In article <djjm8k9p0e2hfqj3mj7jecv04jsh7lpfa6@4ax.com>,
NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
At least Trump is trying to fix things.
Some policies will work and some may not.
The last thing this country needs is a do nothing POTUS.
We just had one of those.
"First, do no harm." - Hippocrates
"First, impose inflationary tariffs to prove how almighty I am." - Trump
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:sddm8kpbtvbg2gsojnoa5ufn9mll06sqp1@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:46:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:fj8l8k5jjlikg47tn85b46k1eocokdg2mp@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
Let's start with the Border - yeah, immigration has been reduced, butLike what? What is getting "fixed"?
The border problem has been fixed
The illegals problem is getting fixed
The men in women's athletics is getting fixed
The trade deficits are getting fixed
The loss of US manufacturing is getting fixed
The IC vehicles problem is getting fixed
The gas and oil problems are getting fixed
Need I go on?
How are any of these problems? And, no, they're NOT "getting fixed".
<LOL> Explain how they're not getting fixed if you can't understand
how they're problems?
More actual problems are being created by these efforts to "fix".
What "actual problems" are being created?
drugs and criminals have not, and now we have the problem that Tourism
has also dropped - leading to job losses, and American hospitality
businesses failing.
You, on the other hand, cannot explain how immigration was ever a
problem. All you can do is lie about it.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They >>>>>>>> don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy. >>>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax and >>>> an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales tax, >>>> way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, the
more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. They are
*proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are considered regressive with
respect to income because a given amount of tax represents a smaller percentage
of a high income than it does of a lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax >> rate and something sells for $1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For
someone earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of
his income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you to, given
that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in number.
"LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either "LeftistsDon't," or >> "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 23:54:18 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-31, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 7/31/25 11:27, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They >>>>>>> don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy. >>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Oh, so you've already filed your 2026 federal income taxes?
Of course not.
I never said I did.
I said was I haven't seen any tax increases and tax isn't exclusive to income tax.
Could be sales, property etc tax.
Tariffs.
On 2025-07-30 13:45, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:106dc21$38kcu$3@dont-email.me:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They
don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy.
So you like paying a Sales Tax?!
No. I feel it's a ripoff.
As of today, I have not seen any increase in sales tax.
Have you?
Wow.
Just how stupid ARE you?
On 7/31/25 18:12, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They >>>>>>>>> don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy. >>>>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax and >>>>> an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales tax, >>>>> way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, the
more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. They are
*proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are considered regressive with
respect to income because a given amount of tax represents a smaller percentage
of a high income than it does of a lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax
rate and something sells for $1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For
someone earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of
his income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you to, given
that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in number.
"LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either "LeftistsDon't," or >>> "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
Except that the sales tax rate doesn't increase when one buys more
goods, or more expensive goods.
context of percentage of total income it is functionally regressive.
Sounds like you never got to Algebra II in middle school to get to
learning how to solve "two equations, two unknowns". /s
-hh
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:l1cn8khhd8dpn4uiincqc4nrsj9usv653e@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:17:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:sddm8kpbtvbg2gsojnoa5ufn9mll06sqp1@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:46:59 -0000 (UTC), BaxterLet's start with the Border - yeah, immigration has been reduced, but >>>drugs and criminals have not, and now we have the problem that Tourism >>>has also dropped - leading to job losses, and American hospitality >>>businesses failing.
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:fj8l8k5jjlikg47tn85b46k1eocokdg2mp@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
Like what? What is getting "fixed"?
The border problem has been fixed
The illegals problem is getting fixed
The men in women's athletics is getting fixed
The trade deficits are getting fixed
The loss of US manufacturing is getting fixed
The IC vehicles problem is getting fixed
The gas and oil problems are getting fixed
Need I go on?
How are any of these problems? And, no, they're NOT "getting fixed".
<LOL> Explain how they're not getting fixed if you can't understand
how they're problems?
More actual problems are being created by these efforts to "fix".
What "actual problems" are being created?
You, on the other hand, cannot explain how immigration was ever a >>>problem. All you can do is lie about it.
<LOL> As if illegal border crossings doesn't create problems.
But somehow you can't explain what those problems are.
For most of it's
existence, the US has had little or no border control -
grew like gangbusters.
On 2025-07-31, LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They >>>>>>>>> don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy. >>>>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax and >>>>> an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales tax, >>>>> way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, the
more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. They are
*proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are considered regressive with
respect to income because a given amount of tax represents a smaller percentage
of a high income than it does of a lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax >>>rate and something sells for $1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For
someone earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of
his income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you to, given
that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in number. >>>"LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either "LeftistsDon't," or >>>"LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a claim like >the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say $50k while the average >middle class family will see a tax decrease of $1000 it needs to be put into >perspective, ie:percentages.
And as I have said dozens of times before, the tax system is heavily weighted >towards the wealthy.
They are able to take deductions the average person is not.
When you are struggling to put food on the table, sheltering money is not >really an option.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:06:57 -0400, LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:17:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:sddm8kpbtvbg2gsojnoa5ufn9mll06sqp1@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:46:59 -0000 (UTC), BaxterLet's start with the Border - yeah, immigration has been reduced, but
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:fj8l8k5jjlikg47tn85b46k1eocokdg2mp@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
<LOL> Explain how they're not getting fixed if you can't understandLike what? What is getting "fixed"?
The border problem has been fixed
The illegals problem is getting fixed
The men in women's athletics is getting fixed
The trade deficits are getting fixed
The loss of US manufacturing is getting fixed
The IC vehicles problem is getting fixed
The gas and oil problems are getting fixed
Need I go on?
How are any of these problems? And, no, they're NOT "getting fixed". >>>>
how they're problems?
More actual problems are being created by these efforts to "fix".
What "actual problems" are being created?
drugs and criminals have not, and now we have the problem that Tourism
has also dropped - leading to job losses, and American hospitality
businesses failing.
You, on the other hand, cannot explain how immigration was ever a
problem. All you can do is lie about it.
<LOL> As if illegal border crossings doesn't create problems.
Not as many problems as labor shortages.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:27:11 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They
don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
The tax increase is called "tariffs" and will be hidden in rising
prices. Trump has actually threatened legal action against any
retailer that specifies how much price increase is due to tariffs.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired. >><https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
Part of negotiating is adjusting the demands and concessions along the way. >>>>Sometimes the baby needs to be thrown out with the bath water. >>>>Sometimes it's best to just walk away. Hamas is well known for that one. >>>>
At least Trump is trying to fix things.
Some policies will work and some may not.
The last thing this country needs is a do nothing POTUS.
So now Japan and the EU are limited to 15% tariffs while US
manufacturers face 50% tariffs on imported raw materials.
Gee whiz! Such a deal!
Time will tell how it all works out, including investment
in manufacturing in the US.
A tariff based global trade economy will result in war.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 23:54:18 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-31, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 7/31/25 11:27, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They >>>>>>> don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy. >>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Oh, so you've already filed your 2026 federal income taxes?
Of course not.
I never said I did.
I said was I haven't seen any tax increases and tax isn't exclusive to income tax.
Could be sales, property etc tax.
Tariffs.
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a claim like >>the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say $50k while the average >>middle class family will see a tax decrease of $1000 it needs to be put into >>perspective, ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower income households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year income tax cut,
but that's precious little help when they're SNAP benefits are cut $50
a month or they lose their kids health care due to cuts in CHIP or
Medicaid.
And as I have said dozens of times before, the tax system is heavily weighted >>towards the wealthy.
They are able to take deductions the average person is not.
When you are struggling to put food on the table, sheltering money is not >>really an option.
Exactly. Mom, dad and two kids trying to make it on 50k aren't hiding wheelbarrows full of cash in the Cayman Islands.
On 2025-07-31, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 7/31/25 11:27, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. They
don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break-monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_fbn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Oh, so you've already filed your 2026 federal income taxes?
Of course not.
I never said I did.
I said was I haven't seen any tax increases and tax isn't exclusive to income tax.
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 23:54:18 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-31, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 7/31/25 11:27, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away.
They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff
policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break- >>>>>>> monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_f >>>>>>> bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Oh, so you've already filed your 2026 federal income taxes?
Of course not.
I never said I did.
I said was I haven't seen any tax increases and tax isn't exclusive
to income tax. Could be sales, property etc tax.
Tariffs.
Well I'm not seeing it, at least not yet.
Gas has increased a little but seems to be going down
a little at least near me.
Groceries are mixed, some things are up a little and others down.
My weekly grocery bill hasn't changed, overall.
At least not a noticeable amount.
Tariffs have been arund since the beginning of time.
What we need is global fair trade and let the market decide.
That's not going to work though with countries like China manipulating
their currency and dumping undervalued goods all over the globe.
The system is rigged in favor of the super wealthy.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away.
They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff
policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break- >>>>>>> monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_f >>>>>>> bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax
and an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales
tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend,
the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck.
They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are
considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount of
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does of a >>lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells for >>$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning
only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his
income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in
number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either >>"LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just
illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:106im28$di65$8@dont-email.me:
The system is rigged in favor of the super wealthy.
What do you think should be done about that?
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a claim like >>> the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say $50k while the average
middle class family will see a tax decrease of $1000 it needs to be put into
perspective, ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower income
households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year income tax cut,
but that's precious little help when they're SNAP benefits are cut $50
a month or they lose their kids health care due to cuts in CHIP or
Medicaid.
Cutting off benefits for people who are not eligible or gaming the system will result in more funds for the people who truly need them.
Trump has said this over and over again.
Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who can work but refuse to?
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>Which isn't anyone bragging about OBBB in these threads on USENET.
Oh and the doctors and medical facilities that are running Medicaid mills should also
be dealt with.And yet Rick Scott still hasn't gone to jail.
And as I have said dozens of times before, the tax system is heavily weighted
towards the wealthy.
They are able to take deductions the average person is not.
When you are struggling to put food on the table, sheltering money is not >>> really an option.
Exactly. Mom, dad and two kids trying to make it on 50k aren't hiding
wheelbarrows full of cash in the Cayman Islands.
I agree with that.
The system is rigged in favor of the super wealthy.
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a claim like >>>> the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say $50k while the average
middle class family will see a tax decrease of $1000 it needs to be put into
perspective, ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower income
households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year income tax cut,
but that's precious little help when they're SNAP benefits are cut $50
a month or they lose their kids health care due to cuts in CHIP or
Medicaid.
Cutting off benefits for people who are not eligible or gaming the system
will result in more funds for the people who truly need them.
Trump has said this over and over again.
And yet Rick Scott still hasn't gone to jail.
Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who can work but
refuse to?
Sure, but just what percentage of the losses are due to this one factor?
0.1%? Less?
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
"Verification systems like Georgia's can be expensive to implement and
run. In the two years since launching its program, Georgia has spent
more than $91 million in state & federal funds, according to state data."
<https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/07/28/nx-s1-5466338/georgia-work-requirements-medicaid-pathways>
And similarly, when such requirements are added, it creates a burden on
those who are legitimate claimants, which means that some percentage who legitimately should be getting care don't end up with said care: how
large is this loss and what are its consequences?
Because if you don't know or don't care, then its likely that the
so-called "work" qualification system may very well actually be just a
"I don't like poors" form of systematic and deliberate discrimination.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away.
They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff
policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-break- >>>>>>>> monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%253Fintcmp=tw_f >>>>>>>> bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+ >>>>>> were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax
and an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales
tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend,
the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. >>>They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are
considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount of >>>tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does of a >>>lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells for >>>$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning
only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his >>>income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in >>>number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either >>>"LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just
illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a
claim like the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say
$50k while the average middle class family will see a tax decrease
of $1000 it needs to be put into perspective, ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower
income households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year income
tax cut, but that's precious little help when they're SNAP benefits
are cut $50 a month or they lose their kids health care due to cuts
in CHIP or Medicaid.
Cutting off benefits for people who are not eligible or gaming the
system will result in more funds for the people who truly need them.
Trump has said this over and over again.
And yet Rick Scott still hasn't gone to jail.
Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who can
work but refuse to?
Sure, but just what percentage of the losses are due to this one
factor?
0.1%? Less?
That's the standard progressive answer.
But it's only xxx percentage.
Actually $100 billion is a lot of money
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became -a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxterbreak-
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. >>>>>>>>>> They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff
policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-
253Fintcmp=tw_fmonthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%
q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?
ofwere+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax >>>>>> and an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales >>>>>> tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend,
the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. >>>>They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount
atax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does of
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning >>>>only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his >>>>income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you >>>>to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in >>>>number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either >>>>"LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just
illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:You didn't read your own link - that $100B is corporate fraud - zero from people who could werk but refuse to.
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a
claim like the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say
$50k while the average middle class family will see a tax decrease >>>>>> of $1000 it needs to be put into perspective, ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower
income households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year income
tax cut, but that's precious little help when they're SNAP benefits
are cut $50 a month or they lose their kids health care due to cuts
in CHIP or Medicaid.
Cutting off benefits for people who are not eligible or gaming the
system will result in more funds for the people who truly need them.
Trump has said this over and over again.
And yet Rick Scott still hasn't gone to jail.
Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who can
work but refuse to?
Sure, but just what percentage of the losses are due to this one
factor?
0.1%? Less?
That's the standard progressive answer.
But it's only xxx percentage.
Actually $100 billion is a lot of money
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became
-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
So you're going to punish patients for fake doctors!
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxterbreak-
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. >>>>>>>>>>> They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-
253Fintcmp=tw_fmonthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%
q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?
ofwere+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax >>>>>>> and an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales >>>>>>> tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend,
the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. >>>>>They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount
atax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does of
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning >>>>>only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his >>>>>income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you >>>>>to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in >>>>>number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either >>>>>"LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just >>>>>illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd who
REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a claim like
the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say $50k while the average
middle class family will see a tax decrease of $1000 it needs to be put into
perspective, ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower income
households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year income tax cut,
but that's precious little help when they're SNAP benefits are cut $50 >>>> a month or they lose their kids health care due to cuts in CHIP or
Medicaid.
Cutting off benefits for people who are not eligible or gaming the system >>> will result in more funds for the people who truly need them.
Trump has said this over and over again.
And yet Rick Scott still hasn't gone to jail.
That parameterizes the grand sum total of *all* fraud, but your pointWhy should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who can work but >>> refuse to?
Sure, but just what percentage of the losses are due to this one factor?
0.1%? Less?
That's the standard progressive answer.
But it's only xxx percentage.
Actually $100 billion is a lot of money
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost money?
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less than
xx dollars.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright as long
as you follow the rules.
Bad idea.
"Verification systems like Georgia's can be expensive to implement and
run. In the two years since launching its program, Georgia has spent
more than $91 million in state & federal funds, according to state data."
<https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/07/28/nx-s1-5466338/georgia-work-requirements-medicaid-pathways>
So is having a police force responding to shoplifting crimes.
It sends a message and the perps will move elsewhere.
Same with government programs.
Oh, so then you'll be perfectly fine to be similarly required to pass a detailed authorization audit before receiving your Social Security checkAnd similarly, when such requirements are added, it creates a burden on
those who are legitimate claimants, which means that some percentage who
legitimately should be getting care don't end up with said care: how
large is this loss and what are its consequences?
Too bad.
That's life.
Methods can certainly be worked out for the truly disabled, and should.
And the cost savings by eliminating fraud from the system can help
offset that cost.
Because if you don't know or don't care, then its likely that the
so-called "work" qualification system may very well actually be just a
"I don't like poors" form of systematic and deliberate discrimination.
Ahhh, here it comes.
The discrimination card.
Progressives like to resort to those type of accusations when theyTranslation: nailed pothead's hypocrisy, so they've run away. Again.
are confronted with common sense like defrauding government programs is
a crime and should not be ignored like it has been.
Back in the -9999 file with you.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
On 2025-08-01, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote inAnd you didn't read my OP where I clearly stated doctors and medical facilities should be investigated and if need be prosecuted as well.
news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:You didn't read your own link - that $100B is corporate fraud - zero
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a
claim like the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of
say $50k while the average middle class family will see a tax
decrease of $1000 it needs to be put into perspective,
ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower
income households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year
income tax cut, but that's precious little help when they're SNAP
benefits are cut $50 a month or they lose their kids health care
due to cuts in CHIP or Medicaid.
Cutting off benefits for people who are not eligible or gaming the
system will result in more funds for the people who truly need
them.
Trump has said this over and over again.
And yet Rick Scott still hasn't gone to jail.
Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who can
work but refuse to?
Sure, but just what percentage of the losses are due to this one
factor?
0.1%? Less?
That's the standard progressive answer.
But it's only xxx percentage.
Actually $100 billion is a lot of money
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-beca
me -a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
from people who could werk but refuse to.
So you're going to punish patients for fake doctors!
Fraud is fraud is fraud.
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxterbreak-
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. >>>>>>>>>>>> They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-
253Fintcmp=tw_fmonthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%
q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired. >>>>>>>>> <https://duckduckgo.com/?
ofwere+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax >>>>>>>> and an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales >>>>>>>> tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, >>>>>>> the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. >>>>>> They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are
considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount
atax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does of
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning >>>>>> only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his >>>>>> income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you >>>>>> to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in >>>>>> number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either
"LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just
illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd who
REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost
money?
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less
than xx dollars.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright as
long as you follow the rules.
Bad idea.
"Verification systems like Georgia's can be expensive to implement
and run. In the two years since launching its program, Georgia has
spent more than $91 million in state & federal funds, according to
state data."
<https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/07/28/nx-s1-546633 >>8/georgia-work-requirements-medicaid-pathways>
So is having a police force responding to shoplifting crimes.
It sends a message and the perps will move elsewhere.
Same with government programs.
And similarly, when such requirements are added, it creates a burden
on those who are legitimate claimants, which means that some
percentage who legitimately should be getting care don't end up with
said care: how large is this loss and what are its consequences?
Too bad.
That's life.
Methods can certainly be worked out for the truly disabled, and
should. And the cost savings by eliminating fraud from the system can
help offset that cost.
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxterwrote:
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
back.On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right
taxMost other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. >>>>>>>>>>>> They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues- >>break-
monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>253Fintcmp=tw_f
bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired. >>>>>>>>> <https://duckduckgo.com/? >>q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income
salesand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local
fuck.tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, >>>>>>> the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid
ofofThey are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>>considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does
youa
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning >>>>>>only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his >>>>>>income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in >>>>>>number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either >>>>>>"LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just >>>>>>illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd who >>REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Fraud is fraud is fraud.
On 8/1/25 18:32, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxterbreak-
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. >>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-
253Fintcmp=tw_fmonthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%
q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired. >>>>>>>>>> <https://duckduckgo.com/?
ofwere+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax >>>>>>>>> and an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales >>>>>>>>> tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, >>>>>>>> the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. >>>>>>> They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are
considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount
fortax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does of >>> a
lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning >>>>>>> only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his >>>>>>> income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you >>>>>>> to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in >>>>>>> number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either
"LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just
illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive, >>>>>> therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd who
REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Buying something for their business to get the tax write-off and then >diverting it (immediately, or later) to personal use.
A classical one is a laptop for the business, but coincident to when the >daughter needed one for going to college: golly, how convenient! /s
-hh
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:i1gq8k1a5o3bd6b3mitmn87mks3ql2fhtb@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxterwrote:
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
back.On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right
taxMost other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing
Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. >>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues- >>>break-
monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>>253Fintcmp=tw_f
bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired. >>>>>>>>>> <https://duckduckgo.com/? >>>q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income
salesand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local
fuck.tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, >>>>>>>> the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid
ofThey are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>>>considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount >>>of
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does
youa
lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells >>>for
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning >>>>>>>only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his >>>>>>>income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in >>>>>>>number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either >>>>>>>"LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just >>>>>>>illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive, >>>>>> therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd who >>>REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
You're trying to redefine the terms. "Progressive taxation" is based on >Percentage of Income and not on the actual amount of tax (which can vary >because of other factors).
Anybody who has the means to produce/grow/etc the items being taxed. A >rancher isn't going to pay one cent in taxes on the meat he consumes.
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:06:57 -0400, LeftistDon'tMatter
<IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:17:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:sddm8kpbtvbg2gsojnoa5ufn9mll06sqp1@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:46:59 -0000 (UTC), BaxterLet's start with the Border - yeah, immigration has been reduced, but
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:fj8l8k5jjlikg47tn85b46k1eocokdg2mp@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
<LOL> Explain how they're not getting fixed if you can't understandLike what? What is getting "fixed"?
The border problem has been fixed
The illegals problem is getting fixed
The men in women's athletics is getting fixed
The trade deficits are getting fixed
The loss of US manufacturing is getting fixed
The IC vehicles problem is getting fixed
The gas and oil problems are getting fixed
Need I go on?
How are any of these problems? And, no, they're NOT "getting fixed". >>>>>
how they're problems?
More actual problems are being created by these efforts to "fix".
What "actual problems" are being created?
drugs and criminals have not, and now we have the problem that Tourism >>>> has also dropped - leading to job losses, and American hospitality
businesses failing.
You, on the other hand, cannot explain how immigration was ever a
problem. All you can do is lie about it.
<LOL> As if illegal border crossings doesn't create problems.
Not as many problems as labor shortages.
Taco Tits is violating 8 USC 1158. It is in the courts but once it gets
to the Supremes, the injustics will ignore the law.
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a claim like
the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say $50k while the average
middle class family will see a tax decrease of $1000 it needs to be put into
perspective, ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower income
households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year income tax cut,
but that's precious little help when they're SNAP benefits are cut $50 >>>> a month or they lose their kids health care due to cuts in CHIP or
Medicaid.
Cutting off benefits for people who are not eligible or gaming the system >>> will result in more funds for the people who truly need them.
Trump has said this over and over again.
And yet Rick Scott still hasn't gone to jail.
Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who can work but >>> refuse to?
Sure, but just what percentage of the losses are due to this one factor?
0.1%? Less?
That's the standard progressive answer.
But it's only xxx percentage.
Actually $100 billion is a lot of money
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost money?
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less than
xx dollars.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright as long
as you follow the rules.
Bad idea.
"Verification systems like Georgia's can be expensive to implement and
run. In the two years since launching its program, Georgia has spent
more than $91 million in state & federal funds, according to state data."
<https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/07/28/nx-s1-5466338/georgia-work-requirements-medicaid-pathways>
So is having a police force responding to shoplifting crimes.
It sends a message and the perps will move elsewhere.
Same with government programs.
And similarly, when such requirements are added, it creates a burden on
those who are legitimate claimants, which means that some percentage who
legitimately should be getting care don't end up with said care: how
large is this loss and what are its consequences?
Too bad.
That's life.
Methods can certainly be worked out for the truly disabled, and should.
And the cost savings by eliminating fraud from the system can help
offset that cost.
Because if you don't know or don't care, then its likely that the
so-called "work" qualification system may very well actually be just a
"I don't like poors" form of systematic and deliberate discrimination.
Ahhh, here it comes.
The discrimination card.
Progressives like to resort to those type of accusations when they
are confronted with common sense like defrauding government programs is
a crime and should not be ignored like it has been.
Back in the -9999 file with you.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 20:44:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a claim like
the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say $50k while the average
middle class family will see a tax decrease of $1000 it needs to be put into
perspective, ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower income >>>>> households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year income tax cut, >>>>> but that's precious little help when they're SNAP benefits are cut $50 >>>>> a month or they lose their kids health care due to cuts in CHIP or
Medicaid.
Cutting off benefits for people who are not eligible or gaming the system >>>> will result in more funds for the people who truly need them.
Trump has said this over and over again.
And yet Rick Scott still hasn't gone to jail.
Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who can work but >>>> refuse to?
Sure, but just what percentage of the losses are due to this one factor? >>> 0.1%? Less?
That's the standard progressive answer.
But it's only xxx percentage.
Actually $100 billion is a lot of money
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost money?
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less than
xx dollars.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright as long >> as you follow the rules.
Bad idea.
"Verification systems like Georgia's can be expensive to implement and
run. In the two years since launching its program, Georgia has spent
more than $91 million in state & federal funds, according to state data." >>>
<https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/07/28/nx-s1-5466338/georgia-work-requirements-medicaid-pathways>
So is having a police force responding to shoplifting crimes.
It sends a message and the perps will move elsewhere.
Same with government programs.
And similarly, when such requirements are added, it creates a burden on
those who are legitimate claimants, which means that some percentage who >>> legitimately should be getting care don't end up with said care: how
large is this loss and what are its consequences?
Too bad.
That's life.
Methods can certainly be worked out for the truly disabled, and should.
And the cost savings by eliminating fraud from the system can help
offset that cost.
Because if you don't know or don't care, then its likely that the
so-called "work" qualification system may very well actually be just a
"I don't like poors" form of systematic and deliberate discrimination.
Ahhh, here it comes.
The discrimination card.
Progressives like to resort to those type of accusations when they
are confronted with common sense like defrauding government programs is
a crime and should not be ignored like it has been.
Back in the -9999 file with you.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
He does seem to be reading right out of the leftie playbook doesn't
he?
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:46:28 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 18:32, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxterbreak-
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-
253Fintcmp=tw_fmonthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%
q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired. >>>>>>>>>>> <https://duckduckgo.com/?
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income tax >>>>>>>>>> and an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local sales >>>>>>>>>> tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, >>>>>>>>> the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid fuck. >>>>>>>> They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>>>> considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount >>>> of
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does of >>>> a
lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells >>>> for
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning >>>>>>>> only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his >>>>>>>> income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect you >>>>>>>> to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in >>>>>>>> number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either >>>>>>>> "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just
illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive, >>>>>>> therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd who
REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Buying something for their business to get the tax write-off and then
diverting it (immediately, or later) to personal use.
A classical one is a laptop for the business, but coincident to when the
daughter needed one for going to college: golly, how convenient! /s
-hh
Pay attention... The subject here is sales tax.
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:48:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:i1gq8k1a5o3bd6b3mitmn87mks3ql2fhtb@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxterwrote:
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
back.On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right
taxbreak-Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs away. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-
253Fintcmp=tw_fmonthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%
q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts expired. >>>>>>>>>>> <https://duckduckgo.com/?
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state income
salesand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local
fuck.tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you spend, >>>>>>>>> the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid
ofThey are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>>>> considered regressive with respect to income because a given amount >>>> of
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it does
youa
lower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something sells >>>> for
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone earning >>>>>>>> only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher percentage of his >>>>>>>> income than it does of someone earning $5 million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree in >>>>>>>> number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be either >>>>>>>> "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is just
illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive, >>>>>>> therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd who
REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
You're trying to redefine the terms. "Progressive taxation" is based on
Percentage of Income and not on the actual amount of tax (which can vary
because of other factors).
Anybody who has the means to produce/grow/etc the items being taxed. A
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
rancher isn't going to pay one cent in taxes on the meat he consumes.
Most states do not tax groceries, Dummy
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:46:28 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 18:32, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxterbreak-
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in
news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back. Most other presidents weren't like that and it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HURT them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> away. They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues-
253Fintcmp=tw_fmonthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?%
q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts
expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/?
ofwere+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state
income tax and an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local >>>>>>>>>> sales tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you
spend, the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid >>>>>>>> fuck. They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base.
They are considered regressive with respect to income because a >>>>>>>> given amount
atax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it
does of
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something
sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone
earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher
percentage of his income than it does of someone earning $5
million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't
expect you to, given that you don't know how to make subject
and verb agree in number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate.
It should be either "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't."
"LeftistDon't" is just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more
expensive, therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd
who REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Buying something for their business to get the tax write-off and then >>diverting it (immediately, or later) to personal use.
A classical one is a laptop for the business, but coincident to when
the daughter needed one for going to college: golly, how convenient!
/s
-hh
Pay attention... The subject here is sales tax.
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:48:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:i1gq8k1a5o3bd6b3mitmn87mks3ql2fhtb@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxterwrote:
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
back.On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right
taxMost other presidents weren't like that and it HURT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> away. They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues- >>>>break-
monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>>>253Fintcmp=tw_f
bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts
expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/? >>>>q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state
income
salesand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local
fuck.tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you
spend, the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid
ofofThey are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>>>>considered regressive with respect to income because a given >>>>>>>>amount
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it >>>>>>>>does
youa
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something >>>>>>>>sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone >>>>>>>>earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher >>>>>>>>percentage of his income than it does of someone earning $5 >>>>>>>>million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree >>>>>>>>in number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be >>>>>>>>either "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is >>>>>>>>just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more
expensive, therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd
who REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
You're trying to redefine the terms. "Progressive taxation" is based
on Percentage of Income and not on the actual amount of tax (which can
vary because of other factors).
Anybody who has the means to produce/grow/etc the items being taxed. A >>rancher isn't going to pay one cent in taxes on the meat he consumes.
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Most states do not tax groceries, Dummy
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 15:10:18 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Tariffs.
Well I'm not seeing it, at least not yet.
You will. By Christmas inflation will be evident and you'll be making
up ways to blame Biden, Obama and the DNC.
On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 16:58:25 -0400, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:<snip>
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more expensive,
therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
Because relative to their incomes, the wealthy buy less "stuff" than
the working classes.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote:
-hh wrote:
On 8/1/25 18:32, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
Baxter wrote:
[snip]
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Buying something for their business to get the tax write-off and then
diverting it (immediately, or later) to personal use.
A classical one is a laptop for the business, but coincident to when
the daughter needed one for going to college: golly, how convenient!
Pay attention... The subject here is sales tax.
LOL. What an idot!!
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:bnlr8kdetcg4l9td33gup0g0vg4ja97jgk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:48:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:i1gq8k1a5o3bd6b3mitmn87mks3ql2fhtb@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxtertax
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right >>>back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away. They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the trade/tariff >>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenues- >>>>>break-
monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>>>>253Fintcmp=tw_f
bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts
expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/? >>>>>q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state
income
ofofand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + local >>>sales
tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are
straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you >>>>>>>>>> spend, the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you stupid >>>fuck.
They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>>>>>considered regressive with respect to income because a given >>>>>>>>>amount
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it >>>>>>>>>does
a
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something >>>>>>>>>sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone >>>>>>>>>earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher >>>>>>>>>percentage of his income than it does of someone earning $5 >>>>>>>>>million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't expect >>>you
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb agree >>>>>>>>>in number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should be >>>>>>>>>either "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" is >>>>>>>>>just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more
expensive, therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd
who REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
You're trying to redefine the terms. "Progressive taxation" is based
on Percentage of Income and not on the actual amount of tax (which can >>>vary because of other factors).
He still doesn't understand!
But some do. And the same principle applies to ANYTHING a person has the >means to manufacture - for instance, with a 3-D printer. Cust down a tree
Anybody who has the means to produce/grow/etc the items being taxed. A >>>rancher isn't going to pay one cent in taxes on the meat he consumes.
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Most states do not tax groceries, Dummy
in your yard and make it furniture. Etc.
Gawd you're dense!
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 14:59:18 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:bnlr8kdetcg4l9td33gup0g0vg4ja97jgk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:48:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:i1gq8k1a5o3bd6b3mitmn87mks3ql2fhtb@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxtertax
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxterbreak-
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right >>>>back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away. They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the
trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s-
monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>>>>>253Fintcmp=tw_f
bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts >>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/? >>>>>>q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state >>>>>>>>>>>> income
salesand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + >>>>>>>>>>>> local
fuck.tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are >>>>>>>>>>> straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you >>>>>>>>>>> spend, the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you >>>>>>>>>>stupid
ofofThey are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>>>>>>considered regressive with respect to income because a given >>>>>>>>>>amount
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it >>>>>>>>>>does
youa
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something >>>>>>>>>>sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone >>>>>>>>>>earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher >>>>>>>>>>percentage of his income than it does of someone earning $5 >>>>>>>>>>million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>expect
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb >>>>>>>>>>agree in number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should >>>>>>>>>>be either "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" >>>>>>>>>>is just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more
expensive, therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd >>>>>>who REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
You're trying to redefine the terms. "Progressive taxation" is based
on Percentage of Income and not on the actual amount of tax (which
can vary because of other factors).
He still doesn't understand!
But some do. And the same principle applies to ANYTHING a person has
Anybody who has the means to produce/grow/etc the items being taxed.
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
A rancher isn't going to pay one cent in taxes on the meat he
consumes.
Most states do not tax groceries, Dummy
the means to manufacture - for instance, with a 3-D printer. Cust down
a tree in your yard and make it furniture. Etc.
Gawd you're dense!
<chuckle> People who build their own stuff and live off the land avoid
income tax, too, Dumbass.
Gawd you're dense!
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:2oss8kd3i095ep60r9st57pml9vtg643dv@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 14:59:18 -0000 (UTC), BaxterAnd you'd be wrong. My grandparents had a farm and were employed too.
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:bnlr8kdetcg4l9td33gup0g0vg4ja97jgk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:48:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:i1gq8k1a5o3bd6b3mitmn87mks3ql2fhtb@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxtertax
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxterbreak-
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right >>>>>back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away. They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the
trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s-
monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>>>>>>253Fintcmp=tw_f
bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/? >>>>>>>q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state >>>>>>>>>>>>> income
salesand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + >>>>>>>>>>>>> local
fuck.tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are >>>>>>>>>>>> straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you >>>>>>>>>>>> spend, the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you >>>>>>>>>>>stupid
ofofThey are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>>>>>>>considered regressive with respect to income because a given >>>>>>>>>>>amount
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it >>>>>>>>>>>does
youa
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something >>>>>>>>>>>sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone >>>>>>>>>>>earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher >>>>>>>>>>>percentage of his income than it does of someone earning $5 >>>>>>>>>>>million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>expect
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb >>>>>>>>>>>agree in number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should >>>>>>>>>>>be either "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" >>>>>>>>>>>is just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more
expensive, therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd >>>>>>>who REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
You're trying to redefine the terms. "Progressive taxation" is based >>>>>on Percentage of Income and not on the actual amount of tax (which >>>>>can vary because of other factors).
He still doesn't understand!
But some do. And the same principle applies to ANYTHING a person has
Anybody who has the means to produce/grow/etc the items being taxed. >>>>>A rancher isn't going to pay one cent in taxes on the meat he >>>>>consumes.
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Most states do not tax groceries, Dummy
the means to manufacture - for instance, with a 3-D printer. Cust down
a tree in your yard and make it furniture. Etc.
Gawd you're dense!
<chuckle> People who build their own stuff and live off the land avoid
income tax, too, Dumbass.
Gawd you're dense!
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in news:2oss8kd3i095ep60r9st57pml9vtg643dv@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 14:59:18 -0000 (UTC), BaxterAnd you'd be wrong. My grandparents had a farm and were employed too.
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:bnlr8kdetcg4l9td33gup0g0vg4ja97jgk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:48:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:i1gq8k1a5o3bd6b3mitmn87mks3ql2fhtb@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxtertax
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxterbreak-
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit right >>>>>back.
Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away. They don't call him TACO for nothing.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the
trade/tariff policy.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-revenue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s-
monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>>>>>>253Fintcmp=tw_f
bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/? >>>>>>>q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state >>>>>>>>>>>>> income
salesand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + >>>>>>>>>>>>> local
fuck.tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are >>>>>>>>>>>> straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you >>>>>>>>>>>> spend, the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you >>>>>>>>>>>stupid
ofofThey are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They are >>>>>>>>>>>considered regressive with respect to income because a given >>>>>>>>>>>amount
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it >>>>>>>>>>>does
youa
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something >>>>>>>>>>>sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone >>>>>>>>>>>earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher >>>>>>>>>>>percentage of his income than it does of someone earning $5 >>>>>>>>>>>million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>expect
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb >>>>>>>>>>>agree in number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It should >>>>>>>>>>>be either "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't." "LeftistDon't" >>>>>>>>>>>is just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more
expensive, therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd >>>>>>>who REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
You're trying to redefine the terms. "Progressive taxation" is based >>>>>on Percentage of Income and not on the actual amount of tax (which >>>>>can vary because of other factors).
He still doesn't understand!
But some do. And the same principle applies to ANYTHING a person has
Anybody who has the means to produce/grow/etc the items being taxed. >>>>>A rancher isn't going to pay one cent in taxes on the meat he >>>>>consumes.
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
Most states do not tax groceries, Dummy
the means to manufacture - for instance, with a 3-D printer. Cust down
a tree in your yard and make it furniture. Etc.
Gawd you're dense!
<chuckle> People who build their own stuff and live off the land avoid
income tax, too, Dumbass.
Gawd you're dense!
...
My grandparents came over in the 1900's from western Europe, LEGALLY.
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 20:44:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
They also make more money, obviously, so when the libbys make a claim like
the average billionaire will see a tax decrease of say $50k while the average
middle class family will see a tax decrease of $1000 it needs to be put into
perspective, ie:percentages.
Consider also that spending cuts will eat into benefits lower income >>>>> households depend on. A family may get a $150 a year income tax cut, >>>>> but that's precious little help when they're SNAP benefits are cut $50 >>>>> a month or they lose their kids health care due to cuts in CHIP or
Medicaid.
Cutting off benefits for people who are not eligible or gaming the system >>>> will result in more funds for the people who truly need them.
Trump has said this over and over again.
And yet Rick Scott still hasn't gone to jail.
Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who can work but >>>> refuse to?
Sure, but just what percentage of the losses are due to this one factor? >>> 0.1%? Less?
That's the standard progressive answer.
But it's only xxx percentage.
Actually $100 billion is a lot of money
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost money?
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less than
xx dollars.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright as long >>as you follow the rules.
Bad idea.
"Verification systems like Georgia's can be expensive to implement and
run. In the two years since launching its program, Georgia has spent
more than $91 million in state & federal funds, according to state data." >>> >>><https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/07/28/nx-s1-5466338/georgia-work-requirements-medicaid-pathways>
So is having a police force responding to shoplifting crimes.
It sends a message and the perps will move elsewhere.
Same with government programs.
And similarly, when such requirements are added, it creates a burden on
those who are legitimate claimants, which means that some percentage who >>> legitimately should be getting care don't end up with said care: how
large is this loss and what are its consequences?
Too bad.
That's life.
Methods can certainly be worked out for the truly disabled, and should.
And the cost savings by eliminating fraud from the system can help
offset that cost.
Because if you don't know or don't care, then its likely that the
so-called "work" qualification system may very well actually be just a
"I don't like poors" form of systematic and deliberate discrimination.
Ahhh, here it comes.
The discrimination card.
Progressives like to resort to those type of accusations when they
are confronted with common sense like defrauding government programs is
a crime and should not be ignored like it has been.
Back in the -9999 file with you.
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
He does seem to be reading right out of the leftie playbook doesn't
he?
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 20:44:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
Actually $100 billion is a lot of money
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html>
Not when it costs 150B to save that much.
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 22:16:52 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
And you didn't read my OP where I clearly stated doctors and medical facilities
should be investigated and if need be prosecuted as well.
Over and over you disagree with Trump yet still support him.
That fascinates me.
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:47:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost
money?
Crime is allowed when the cost of the crime is less than the cost of enforcement.
That is an odd question for a defender
of the Trump pardons to ask.
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less
than xx dollars.
Exactly. If shoplifting is costing local businesses 5M a year but the
cost of reducing that to zero is 10M a year, the shoplifting is
tolerated - it's the lesser of two costs of doing business.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright as
long as you follow the rules.
There are no absolutes. You can't stop crime completely not even with
eighth amendment violations.
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:as
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:47:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost
money?
Crime is allowed when the cost of the crime is less than the cost of
enforcement.
That is an odd question for a defender
of the Trump pardons to ask.
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less
than xx dollars.
Exactly. If shoplifting is costing local businesses 5M a year but the
cost of reducing that to zero is 10M a year, the shoplifting is
tolerated - it's the lesser of two costs of doing business.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright
long as you follow the rules.
There are no absolutes. You can't stop crime completely not even with
eighth amendment violations.
Not true.
You can pretty much stop crime with severe penalties that are
used.
Guilani used this method and it worked.
Bottom line, do the crime and you will do the time.
No exceptions.
As for enforcement costs, people pay taxes and they are entitled
to protection regardless of cost.
Under all this democrat defund the police garbage the honest business
owners are suffering.
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 22:07:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter<governor.swill@gmail.com>
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:2oss8kd3i095ep60r9st57pml9vtg643dv@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 14:59:18 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:bnlr8kdetcg4l9td33gup0g0vg4ja97jgk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:48:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>news:i1gq8k1a5o3bd6b3mitmn87mks3ql2fhtb@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill
rightwrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit
revenueback.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trade/tariff policy.Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away. They don't call him TACO for nothing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-
aretaxbreak-s-
monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>>>>>>>253Fintcmp=tw_f
bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/? >>>>>>>>q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state >>>>>>>>>>>>>> income
salesand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + >>>>>>>>>>>>>> local
fuck.tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are >>>>>>>>>>>>> straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you >>>>>>>>>>>>> spend, the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you >>>>>>>>>>>>stupid
They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They
shouldofofconsidered regressive with respect to income because a given >>>>>>>>>>>>amount
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it >>>>>>>>>>>>does
youa
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something >>>>>>>>>>>>sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone >>>>>>>>>>>>earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher >>>>>>>>>>>>percentage of his income than it does of someone earning $5 >>>>>>>>>>>>million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>expect
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb >>>>>>>>>>>>agree in number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It
"LeftistDon't"be either "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't."
basedis just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more
expensive, therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd >>>>>>>>who REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
You're trying to redefine the terms. "Progressive taxation" is
taxed.on Percentage of Income and not on the actual amount of tax (which >>>>>>can vary because of other factors).
He still doesn't understand!
Anybody who has the means to produce/grow/etc the items being
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
downBut some do. And the same principle applies to ANYTHING a person has >>>>the means to manufacture - for instance, with a 3-D printer. CustA rancher isn't going to pay one cent in taxes on the meat he >>>>>>consumes.
Most states do not tax groceries, Dummy
avoida tree in your yard and make it furniture. Etc.
Gawd you're dense!
<chuckle> People who build their own stuff and live off the land
income tax, too, Dumbass.And you'd be wrong. My grandparents had a farm and were employed too.
Gawd you're dense!
That would be rare...
Both my grandparents and my parents had farms or ranches and did not
have jobs.
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:as
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:47:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost
money?
Crime is allowed when the cost of the crime is less than the cost of
enforcement.
That is an odd question for a defender
of the Trump pardons to ask.
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less
than xx dollars.
Exactly. If shoplifting is costing local businesses 5M a year but the
cost of reducing that to zero is 10M a year, the shoplifting is
tolerated - it's the lesser of two costs of doing business.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright
long as you follow the rules.
There are no absolutes. You can't stop crime completely not even with
eighth amendment violations.
Not true.
You can pretty much stop crime with severe penalties that are
used.
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106mbv3$1bqel$5@dont-
email.me:
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:as
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:47:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>>news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost
money?
Crime is allowed when the cost of the crime is less than the cost of
enforcement.
That is an odd question for a defender
of the Trump pardons to ask.
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less
than xx dollars.
Exactly. If shoplifting is costing local businesses 5M a year but the
cost of reducing that to zero is 10M a year, the shoplifting is
tolerated - it's the lesser of two costs of doing business.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright
In all of history that has never happened anywhere in the world.long as you follow the rules.
There are no absolutes. You can't stop crime completely not even with
eighth amendment violations.
Not true.
You can pretty much stop crime with severe penalties that are
used.
On 2025-08-03, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:<noemail@aol.com>
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106mbv3$1bqel$5@dont-
email.me:
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:47:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman
money.wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>>>news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money? >>>>>>> Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost
the
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost
money?
Crime is allowed when the cost of the crime is less than the cost of
enforcement.
That is an odd question for a defender
of the Trump pardons to ask.
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less >>>>>> than xx dollars.
Exactly. If shoplifting is costing local businesses 5M a year but
withascost of reducing that to zero is 10M a year, the shoplifting is
tolerated - it's the lesser of two costs of doing business.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright
long as you follow the rules.
There are no absolutes. You can't stop crime completely not even
Wrong.In all of history that has never happened anywhere in the world.eighth amendment violations.
Not true.
You can pretty much stop crime with severe penalties that are
used.
Guilani did just that in NYC and crime disappeared.
Stop following the liberal POV of coddling criminals.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:jo4t8khas5tvenekb52nf811c654sk0c60@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 22:07:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter<governor.swill@gmail.com>
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:2oss8kd3i095ep60r9st57pml9vtg643dv@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 14:59:18 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:bnlr8kdetcg4l9td33gup0g0vg4ja97jgk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:48:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>news:i1gq8k1a5o3bd6b3mitmn87mks3ql2fhtb@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 21:57:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:vhaq8kdg6oq95369p6rvqnil7f6adr1rvl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 18:40:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>news:3cqn8kdd3uqokv8ii3b2rifgp060q35nt0@4ax.com:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:02:05 -0700, pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 7/31/2025 1:18 PM, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:55:19 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31 15:27:11 +0000, pothead said:
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill
rightwrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:42:25 -0000 (UTC), pothead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:09:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, Trump is a fighter. Hit him and he'll hit
revenueback.
Still, he seems to be doing quite well in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trade/tariff policy.Most other presidents weren't like that and it HURT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
"Fighter" does not equal "winner".
True.
But it's better than rolling over and succumbing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go down fighting if necessary.
The issue isn't defense, Trump picks fights then runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away. They don't call him TACO for nothing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/july-tariff-
aretaxbreak-s-
monthly-record-150-billion-collected-so-far-2025?% >>>>>>>>>253Fintcmp=tw_f
bn&taid=6888daf402cd4b00019b7613>
So you don't mind the tax increase?
I haven't seen any.
Have you?
Still, it would be much worse had the Trump tax cuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. <https://duckduckgo.com/? >>>>>>>>>q=what+would+happen+if+the+trump+tax+cuts+
were+not+renewed&t=brave&ia=web>
I'm in one of those (mostly red) 9 states with no state >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> income
salesand an obscene state sales tax, even on food.
So pile a "tariff tax" on top of an almost 10% state + >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local
fuck.tax, way to take care of your people Trump.
Income taxes are too easily manipulated. Sales taxes are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> straightfoward and are naturally progressive. The more you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend, the more you pay.
Sales taxes are *regressive* with respect to income, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>stupid
They are *proportional* with respect to the tax base. They
shouldofofconsidered regressive with respect to income because a given >>>>>>>>>>>>>amount
tax represents a smaller percentage of a high income than it >>>>>>>>>>>>>does
youa
forlower income. If there is an 8% sales tax rate and something >>>>>>>>>>>>>sells
$1000, $80 dollars is paid by the buyer in tax. For someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>earning only $25,000 a year, that $80 represents a higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>percentage of his income than it does of someone earning $5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>million a year.
You don't know what you're talking about, and we wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>expect
to, given that you don't know how to make subject and verb >>>>>>>>>>>>>agree in number. "LeftistDon'tMatter" is illiterate. It
"LeftistDon't"be either "LeftistsDon't," or "LeftistDoesn't."
basedis just illiterate and stupid.
Rich people buy more stuff, and the stuff is often more >>>>>>>>>>>> expensive, therefore they pay more sales tax.
Nope, not how it works.
Explain why you think that's not how it works....
It's already been explained to you. Are you another conservaturd >>>>>>>>>who REFUSES to understand, REFUSES to learn?
<LOL> Baxter ducks and runs....
You're trying to redefine the terms. "Progressive taxation" is
taxed.on Percentage of Income and not on the actual amount of tax (which >>>>>>>can vary because of other factors).
He still doesn't understand!
Anybody who has the means to produce/grow/etc the items being
Also rich people buy stuff from sources that don't tax.
Such as?
downBut some do. And the same principle applies to ANYTHING a person has >>>>>the means to manufacture - for instance, with a 3-D printer. CustA rancher isn't going to pay one cent in taxes on the meat he >>>>>>>consumes.
Most states do not tax groceries, Dummy
avoida tree in your yard and make it furniture. Etc.
Gawd you're dense!
<chuckle> People who build their own stuff and live off the land
income tax, too, Dumbass.And you'd be wrong. My grandparents had a farm and were employed too.
Gawd you're dense!
That would be rare...
Both my grandparents and my parents had farms or ranches and did not
have jobs.
Nope. pretty common. She was schoolteacher, he was logger.
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 22:16:52 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
And you didn't read my OP where I clearly stated doctors and medical facilities
should be investigated and if need be prosecuted as well.
Over and over you disagree with Trump yet still support him.
That fascinates me.
That's because I am an independent. My voting record shows that.
Unlike democrats I don't follow along aimlessly in lockstep.
From my POV, no candidate is perfect.
I look at what is important to ME and support accordingly.
Call it selfish but it is what I say for me.
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:47:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money?
Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost money.
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost
money?
Crime is allowed when the cost of the crime is less than the cost of
enforcement.
That is an odd question for a defender
of the Trump pardons to ask.
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less
than xx dollars.
Exactly. If shoplifting is costing local businesses 5M a year but the
cost of reducing that to zero is 10M a year, the shoplifting is
tolerated - it's the lesser of two costs of doing business.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright as
long as you follow the rules.
There are no absolutes. You can't stop crime completely not even with
eighth amendment violations.
Not true.
You can pretty much stop crime with severe penalties that are
used.
Guilani used this method and it worked.
Bottom line, do the crime and you will do the time.
No exceptions.
As for enforcement costs, people pay taxes and they are entitled
to protection regardless of cost.
Under all this democrat defund the police garbage the honest business
owners are suffering.
How is this right?
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106mg36$1ckkt$2@dont-
email.me:
On 2025-08-03, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:<noemail@aol.com>
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106mbv3$1bqel$5@dont-
email.me:
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:47:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman
money.wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>>>>news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money? >>>>>>>> Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost
the
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost >>>>>>> money?
Crime is allowed when the cost of the crime is less than the cost of >>>>> enforcement.
That is an odd question for a defender
of the Trump pardons to ask.
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less >>>>>>> than xx dollars.
Exactly. If shoplifting is costing local businesses 5M a year but
withascost of reducing that to zero is 10M a year, the shoplifting is
tolerated - it's the lesser of two costs of doing business.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright
long as you follow the rules.
There are no absolutes. You can't stop crime completely not even
It didn't "disappear". And the reduction in crime was due less toWrong.In all of history that has never happened anywhere in the world.eighth amendment violations.
Not true.
You can pretty much stop crime with severe penalties that are
used.
Guilani did just that in NYC and crime disappeared.
Stop following the liberal POV of coddling criminals.
Guliani's "tough on crime" than upon overall economic improvement.
On 2025-08-03, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:<noemail@aol.com>
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106mbv3$1bqel$5@dont-
email.me:
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:47:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman
money.wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>>>news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money? >>>>>>> Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost
the
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost
money?
Crime is allowed when the cost of the crime is less than the cost of
enforcement.
That is an odd question for a defender
of the Trump pardons to ask.
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less >>>>>> than xx dollars.
Exactly. If shoplifting is costing local businesses 5M a year but
withascost of reducing that to zero is 10M a year, the shoplifting is
tolerated - it's the lesser of two costs of doing business.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright
long as you follow the rules.
There are no absolutes. You can't stop crime completely not even
Wrong.In all of history that has never happened anywhere in the world.eighth amendment violations.
Not true.
You can pretty much stop crime with severe penalties that are
used.
Guilani did just that in NYC and crime disappeared.
Stop following the liberal POV of coddling criminals.
On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 03:45:47 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106mg36$1ckkt$2@dont- >>email.me:
On 2025-08-03, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:<noemail@aol.com>
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106mbv3$1bqel$5@dont-
email.me:
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:47:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman
money.wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in >>>>>>>news:106j8uj$kglb$1@dont-email.me:
On 2025-08-01, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 8/1/25 11:21, pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-01, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:00:50 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
And more importantly, will it actually net out to save any money? >>>>>>>>> Because any sort of qualification/tracking system will cost
the
Another classic progressive answer.
So crime is allowed because the return on tracking etc will cost >>>>>>>> money?
Crime is allowed when the cost of the crime is less than the cost of >>>>>> enforcement.
That is an odd question for a defender
of the Trump pardons to ask.
This is just like ignoring shoplifting as long as the take is less >>>>>>>> than xx dollars.
Exactly. If shoplifting is costing local businesses 5M a year but
withcost of reducing that to zero is 10M a year, the shoplifting is
tolerated - it's the lesser of two costs of doing business.
It's ridiculous because it says to the perps that crime is alright >>>> as
long as you follow the rules.
There are no absolutes. You can't stop crime completely not even
It didn't "disappear". And the reduction in crime was due less to >>Guliani's "tough on crime" than upon overall economic improvement.Wrong.In all of history that has never happened anywhere in the world.eighth amendment violations.
Not true.
You can pretty much stop crime with severe penalties that are
used.
Guilani did just that in NYC and crime disappeared.
Stop following the liberal POV of coddling criminals.
Laughter!
That makes no sense whatsoever.
On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 00:49:32 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 22:16:52 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
And you didn't read my OP where I clearly stated doctors and medical facilities
should be investigated and if need be prosecuted as well.
Over and over you disagree with Trump yet still support him.
That fascinates me.
That's because I am an independent. My voting record shows that.
Unlike democrats I don't follow along aimlessly in lockstep.
From my POV, no candidate is perfect.
I look at what is important to ME and support accordingly.
Call it selfish but it is what I say for me.
How is it that people don't understand that one can support a
President for being aggressive and having mostly good ideas but still disagree with some ideas? We aren't monoliths and actually think for ourselves.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and
intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have no need
for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that more than
once.
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and
intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have no need
for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that more than >>once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I care
what you believe.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), BaxterSo you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone else says.
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and
intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have no need
for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that more than >>>once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I care
what you believe.
Good to know.
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), BaxterSo you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone else says.
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and
intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have no
need for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that more
than once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I care
what you believe.
Good to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:epo89k94aq0q9kjmmvnd2heqmb20le29ho@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), BaxterSo you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone else says.
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and
intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have no
need for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that more >>>>>than once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I care
what you believe.
Good to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide.
We're laughing AT you - not with you.
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:08:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxtersays.
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:epo89k94aq0q9kjmmvnd2heqmb20le29ho@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), BaxterSo you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone else
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and
intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have no >>>>>>> need for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that more >>>>>>than once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I care
what you believe.
Good to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide.
We're laughing AT you - not with you.
<LOL> You're doing neither... You're expressing your hatred towards
me because I'm laughing at you.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:vgg99kdjv2tg5hq1o95mvt8h01qgba53qe@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:08:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxtersays.
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:epo89k94aq0q9kjmmvnd2heqmb20le29ho@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), BaxterSo you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone else
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and
intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have no >>>>>>>> need for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that more >>>>>>>than once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I care >>>>>> what you believe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure that floats your boat. Anything to save face.Good to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide.
We're laughing AT you - not with you.
<LOL> You're doing neither... You're expressing your hatred towards
me because I'm laughing at you.
<laughs and points>
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
!
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 03:36:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxterno
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:vgg99kdjv2tg5hq1o95mvt8h01qgba53qe@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:08:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:epo89k94aq0q9kjmmvnd2heqmb20le29ho@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and
intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have
moreneed for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that
carethan once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I
face.says.what you believe.So you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone else
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure that floats your boat. Anything to saveGood to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide.
We're laughing AT you - not with you.
<LOL> You're doing neither... You're expressing your hatred towards
me because I'm laughing at you.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
<laughs and points>
!
<LOL> It's you that's unhappy with the current situation and want it
to change. I'm a happy guy. I approve of the current situation.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:r90c9kleh8sc86hibl969p51buup5j2b5r@4ax.com:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 03:36:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxterno
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:vgg99kdjv2tg5hq1o95mvt8h01qgba53qe@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:08:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:epo89k94aq0q9kjmmvnd2heqmb20le29ho@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and >>>>>>>>>> intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have
moreneed for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that
carethan once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I
face.Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure that floats your boat. Anything to savewhat you believe.So you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone else >>>says.
Good to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide.
We're laughing AT you - not with you.
<LOL> You're doing neither... You're expressing your hatred towards
me because I'm laughing at you.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
<laughs and points>
!
<LOL> It's you that's unhappy with the current situation and want it
to change. I'm a happy guy. I approve of the current situation.
Really?! You approve of jailing political opponents?
shutting down factories and increasing unemployment?
You approve of
higher taxes and inflation?
You approve of glorifying Confederate
traitors?
You approve of kidnappings?
You approve of ignoring the
Constitution
and Due Process?
You approve of taking away people's food
and medical care?
<laughs and points>
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
!
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 15:09:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxtertowards
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:r90c9kleh8sc86hibl969p51buup5j2b5r@4ax.com:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 03:36:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxterno
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:vgg99kdjv2tg5hq1o95mvt8h01qgba53qe@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:08:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>news:epo89k94aq0q9kjmmvnd2heqmb20le29ho@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and >>>>>>>>>>> intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have
moreneed for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that
carethan once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I
what you believe.So you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone else >>>>says.
Good to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide.
We're laughing AT you - not with you.
<LOL> You're doing neither... You're expressing your hatred
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAface.me because I'm laughing at you.Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure that floats your boat. Anything to save
<laughs and points>
it!
<LOL> It's you that's unhappy with the current situation and want
to change. I'm a happy guy. I approve of the current situation.
Really?! You approve of jailing political opponents?
I actually argued against that back when the Democrats attempted it.
But it's not happening today.
You approve of=========
shutting down factories and increasing unemployment?
I've been arguing against that for years. Thank goodness it's not
happening today.
You approve of
higher taxes and inflation?
I'm very much in favor of Trump's reducing taxes and putting an end to
the Biden's inflation.
You approve of glorifying Confederate
traitors?
They weren't any more traitors than were our founding fathers. So, no honoring Cofederates doesn't bother me a bit. They're all dead now,
anyway.
You approve of kidnappings?
Only for crooks and illegals.
You approve of ignoring the
Constitution
The Democrats should stop doing it.
and Due Process?
There's been no due process problems.
You approve of taking away people's food
and medical care?
Absolutely... moochers should get jobs and support thrmselves.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<laughs and points>
!
I'm also happy that the leftists have taken over the Democrat party.
It's a loser's move.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:rtac9klclan22rnajocfratu4bnngln867@4ax.com:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 15:09:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxtertowards
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:r90c9kleh8sc86hibl969p51buup5j2b5r@4ax.com:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 03:36:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:vgg99kdjv2tg5hq1o95mvt8h01qgba53qe@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:08:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>news:epo89k94aq0q9kjmmvnd2heqmb20le29ho@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), BaxterSo you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone else >>>>>says.
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically and >>>>>>>>>>>> intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but I have >>>no
need for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen that >>>more
than once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think I >>>care
what you believe.
Good to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide. >>>>>>>>
We're laughing AT you - not with you.
<LOL> You're doing neither... You're expressing your hatred
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >>>>>!me because I'm laughing at you.Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure that floats your boat. Anything to save >>>face.
<laughs and points>
it
<LOL> It's you that's unhappy with the current situation and want
to change. I'm a happy guy. I approve of the current situation.
Really?! You approve of jailing political opponents?
I actually argued against that back when the Democrats attempted it.
But it's not happening today.
Yes, it IS happening today.
You approve of=========
shutting down factories and increasing unemployment?
I've been arguing against that for years. Thank goodness it's not
happening today.
Made in America Era Abruptly Ends as 7 Factories Shut Down with Mass >Layoffs Confirmed
https://www.newsbreak.com/the-coconut-mama-317784482/4143349084250-made- >in-america-era-abruptly-ends-as-7-factories-shut-down-with-mass-layoffs- >confirmed
==========
more besides these.
You approve of
higher taxes and inflation?
I'm very much in favor of Trump's reducing taxes and putting an end to
the Biden's inflation.
He's only reducing taxes for the morbidly rich - not for you and me.
You approve of glorifying Confederate
traitors?
They weren't any more traitors than were our founding fathers. So, no
honoring Cofederates doesn't bother me a bit. They're all dead now,
anyway.
Founding Fathers might have been traitors to King George, but the >Confederates were traitors to the US.
You approve of kidnappings?
Only for crooks and illegals.
So immigrants are all criminals to you.
You approve of ignoring the
Constitution
The Democrats should stop doing it.
It's MAGA that is ignoring the Constitution
and Due Process?
There's been no due process problems.
Yes, there has been. In the news every day.
You approve of taking away people's food
and medical care?
Absolutely... moochers should get jobs and support thrmselves.
Yeah, you're definitely a MAGAt
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<laughs and points>
tRump is so afraid of losing he's demanding Red states gerrymander more!
I'm also happy that the leftists have taken over the Democrat party.
It's a loser's move.
safe Repug seats.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 03:15:16 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:rtac9klclan22rnajocfratu4bnngln867@4ax.com:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 15:09:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxtertowards
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>news:r90c9kleh8sc86hibl969p51buup5j2b5r@4ax.com:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 03:36:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxterno
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>news:vgg99kdjv2tg5hq1o95mvt8h01qgba53qe@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:08:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:epo89k94aq0q9kjmmvnd2heqmb20le29ho@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>in news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically >>>>>>>>>>>>> and intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have
moreneed for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen >>>>>>>>>>>>that
carethan once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think >>>>>>>>>>> I
says.what you believe.So you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone >>>>>>>>>>else
Good to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide. >>>>>>>>>
We're laughing AT you - not with you.
<LOL> You're doing neither... You're expressing your hatred
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAface.me because I'm laughing at you.Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure that floats your boat. Anything to
save
<laughs and points>
HA
it!
<LOL> It's you that's unhappy with the current situation and
want
to change. I'm a happy guy. I approve of the current situation.
Really?! You approve of jailing political opponents?
I actually argued against that back when the Democrats attempted it.
But it's not happening today.
Yes, it IS happening today.
Your fantasies don't count
You approve of=========
shutting down factories and increasing unemployment?
I've been arguing against that for years. Thank goodness it's not
happening today.
Made in America Era Abruptly Ends as 7 Factories Shut Down with Mass >>Layoffs Confirmed
https://www.newsbreak.com/the-coconut-mama-317784482/4143349084250-made
-
in-america-era-abruptly-ends-as-7-factories-shut-down-with-mass-layoffs
- confirmed
==========
more besides these.
https://www.investing.com/news/politics-news/investment-commitments-in- us-nears-3-trillion-since-trump-took-office-3945050
You approve of
higher taxes and inflation?
I'm very much in favor of Trump's reducing taxes and putting an end
to the Biden's inflation.
He's only reducing taxes for the morbidly rich - not for you and me.
I don't pay any income tax, as it is.
You approve of glorifying Confederate
traitors?
They weren't any more traitors than were our founding fathers. So,
no honoring Cofederates doesn't bother me a bit. They're all dead
now, anyway.
Founding Fathers might have been traitors to King George, but the >>Confederates were traitors to the US.
Back then, the union was nothing more than a loose collection of
sovereign states. There was no Constitutional stipulation barring
secession, you pathetically ignorant moron... still isn't...
You approve of kidnappings?
Only for crooks and illegals.
So immigrants are all criminals to you.
Illegal immigrants are.
You approve of ignoring the
Constitution
The Democrats should stop doing it.
It's MAGA that is ignoring the Constitution
How so?
and Due Process?
There's been no due process problems.
Yes, there has been. In the news every day.
More nonsense.. The illegals right to Due Process is very limited.
You approve of taking away people's food
and medical care?
Absolutely... moochers should get jobs and support thrmselves.
Yeah, you're definitely a MAGAt
Yeah, you're definately a moocher.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<laughs and points>
HA
tRump is so afraid of losing he's demanding Red states gerrymander!
I'm also happy that the leftists have taken over the Democrat party.
It's a loser's move.
more safe Repug seats.
Gerrymandering is legal.
The Democrats have been doing it for decades,
but now thay are unhappy because they've already just about exhausted
their ability to get more seats via gerrymandering.
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:3lvd9khg0ftrga2fj1941cu2kh17ur8vv9@4ax.com:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 03:15:16 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:rtac9klclan22rnajocfratu4bnngln867@4ax.com:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 15:09:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxterit
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>news:r90c9kleh8sc86hibl969p51buup5j2b5r@4ax.com:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 03:36:03 -0000 (UTC), Baxterno
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>news:vgg99kdjv2tg5hq1o95mvt8h01qgba53qe@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:08:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:epo89k94aq0q9kjmmvnd2heqmb20le29ho@4ax.com:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 01:21:27 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>news:71o79kl75bogb4hugn4bon322gmg6uhead@4ax.com:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 21:39:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>in news:luf79k9rv7lerheg98j9dlpii5rmd5skuh@4ax.com:
Being on welfare is disgusting unless one is physically >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and intellectually incapable of supporting themselves, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have
moreneed for a job.
IOW, you tried to get on welfare and got rejected. Seen >>>>>>>>>>>>>that
carethan once.
I know you don't believe that. You say it because you think >>>>>>>>>>>> I
face.says.what you believe.So you're just here to pontificate and ignore what everyone >>>>>>>>>>>else
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure that floats your boat. Anything to >>>>>>>saveGood to know.
I'm here for the entertainment you leftist fruitcakes provide. >>>>>>>>>>
We're laughing AT you - not with you.
<LOL> You're doing neither... You're expressing your hatred >>>towards
me because I'm laughing at you.
<laughs and points>
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >>>HA!
<LOL> It's you that's unhappy with the current situation and
want
to change. I'm a happy guy. I approve of the current situation.
Really?! You approve of jailing political opponents?
I actually argued against that back when the Democrats attempted it.
But it's not happening today.
Yes, it IS happening today.
Your fantasies don't count
You approve of=========
shutting down factories and increasing unemployment?
I've been arguing against that for years. Thank goodness it's not
happening today.
Made in America Era Abruptly Ends as 7 Factories Shut Down with Mass >>>Layoffs Confirmed
https://www.newsbreak.com/the-coconut-mama-317784482/4143349084250-made
-
in-america-era-abruptly-ends-as-7-factories-shut-down-with-mass-layoffs
- confirmed
==========
more besides these.
https://www.investing.com/news/politics-news/investment-commitments-in-
us-nears-3-trillion-since-trump-took-office-3945050
You approve of
higher taxes and inflation?
I'm very much in favor of Trump's reducing taxes and putting an end
to the Biden's inflation.
He's only reducing taxes for the morbidly rich - not for you and me.
I don't pay any income tax, as it is.
You approve of glorifying Confederate
traitors?
They weren't any more traitors than were our founding fathers. So,
no honoring Cofederates doesn't bother me a bit. They're all dead
now, anyway.
Founding Fathers might have been traitors to King George, but the >>>Confederates were traitors to the US.
Back then, the union was nothing more than a loose collection of
sovereign states. There was no Constitutional stipulation barring
secession, you pathetically ignorant moron... still isn't...
There was the king, and the king was the Law.
You approve of kidnappings?
Only for crooks and illegals.
So immigrants are all criminals to you.
Illegal immigrants are.
Civil infraction - on par with a speeding ticket. By your logic, YOU are
a criminal.
You approve of ignoring the
Constitution
The Democrats should stop doing it.
It's MAGA that is ignoring the Constitution
How so?
Haven't you followed any news?
==========
Donald Trumps rapid-fire and controversial moves that have ranged from >banning birthright citizenship to firing 18 inspectors general means the
US president has shown a greater willingness than his predecessors to
violate the constitution and federal law, some historians and legal
scholars say.
These scholars pointed to other Trump actions they say blatantly broke
the law, such as freezing trillions of dollar in federal spending and >dismissing members of the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) and Equal >Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), even though they were confirmed
by the Senate and had several years left in their terms.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/01/trump-executive-orders- >constitution-law
and Due Process?
There's been no due process problems.
Yes, there has been. In the news every day.
More nonsense.. The illegals right to Due Process is very limited.
No it's not.
You approve of taking away people's food
and medical care?
Absolutely... moochers should get jobs and support thrmselves.
Yeah, you're definitely a MAGAt
Yeah, you're definately a moocher.
Riched nation on the planet, and refuses take care of it's people like
every other developed nation does. Instead takes food from the mouths of >children, medicine from the sick. MAGAts claim the US is a "Christian >Nation", yet do the opposite of Christ's commandments and teachings.
tRump is so afraid of losing he's demanding Red states gerrymander<laughs and points>
!BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >>>HA
I'm also happy that the leftists have taken over the Democrat party.
It's a loser's move.
more safe Repug seats.
Gerrymandering is legal.
It may be legal, but it's not moral, and it violates the spirit of
Equality in the Constitution.
The Democrats have been doing it for decades,Dems voted for Independant Commissions to set fair districts.
but now thay are unhappy because they've already just about exhausted
their ability to get more seats via gerrymandering.
simply POWER. You think the Dems can't gerrymander to counter the
Repugs? FAFO.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:15:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>news:3lvd9khg0ftrga2fj1941cu2kh17ur8vv9@4ax.com:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 03:15:16 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
Founding Fathers might have been traitors to King George, but the >>>>Confederates were traitors to the US.
Back then, the union was nothing more than a loose collection of
sovereign states. There was no Constitutional stipulation barring
secession, you pathetically ignorant moron... still isn't...
There was the king, and the king was the Law.
Like I said, back then (before the civil war) the union was nothing
more than a loose collection of sovereign states. There was no Constitutional stipulation barring secession, you pathetically
ignorant moron... still isn't...
Confederate View:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >news:k00f9k9k0174asmd7cebihj9g4dqo5h1ub@4ax.com:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:15:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote in >>>news:3lvd9khg0ftrga2fj1941cu2kh17ur8vv9@4ax.com:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 03:15:16 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
===========Founding Fathers might have been traitors to King George, but the >>>>>Confederates were traitors to the US.
Back then, the union was nothing more than a loose collection of
sovereign states. There was no Constitutional stipulation barring
secession, you pathetically ignorant moron... still isn't...
There was the king, and the king was the Law.
Like I said, back then (before the civil war) the union was nothing
more than a loose collection of sovereign states. There was no
Constitutional stipulation barring secession, you pathetically
ignorant moron... still isn't...
AI Overview
The Civil War was fought, in part, because of the issue of whether states
had the right to secede from the United States, a right that was
ultimately denied by the war. The Confederate states believed they had
the right to secede, while the Union maintained that states could not
leave the nation. The war resolved this issue, with the Union victory >establishing that states do not have the right to secede.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Confederate View:
.
Southern states, believing in the principle of states' rights, argued
that they had the right to secede from the Union because they had
voluntarily joined it and could therefore voluntarily leave. They cited >historical arguments and a belief in the sovereignty of individual
states.
Union View:
.
The Union, particularly after the election of Abraham Lincoln, maintained >that the Constitution did not allow for secession and that the United
States was an indivisible nation. The Union's victory in the Civil War >effectively cemented this view.
The Texas v. White Supreme Court Case:
.
In 1869, the Supreme Court case Texas v. White affirmed that states did
not have the right to secede.
The Legal Argument:
.
While some legal scholars argue that the legality of secession was never >definitively settled, the Civil War and subsequent Supreme Court decision >effectively established that states cannot unilaterally leave the Union.
Texas can't secede from the U.S. Here's why.
Jan 29, 2021 Become one. If there were any doubt remaining after
this matter, the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia set it ...
The Texas Tribune
Three Arguments of the Right to Secession in the Civil War
Nov 27, 2017 * Three Arguments of Right to Secession in the Civil
War: International Perspectives. * Abstract. Secession becomes...
UC Law SF Scholarship Repository
Texas v. White | 74 U.S. 700 (1868) | Justia U.S. Supreme Court Center
White, 74 U.S. 700 (1868) ... States do not have the right to
unilaterally secede from the United States, so the Confederate state... >Justia U.S. Supreme Court Center
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Baxter wrote:
Confederate View:
It is okay to reduce human beings to mere property.
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