• Actually, Obama Can Be Indicted. Here's Why.

    From Obama Should Be Executed@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 26 15:42:38 2025
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    This week, investigative journalist John Solomon told Steve Bannon
    that despite all the evidence that has been declassified linking
    Barack Obama to the Russiagate hoax, Obama won’t and can't be
    indicted for his role in the Russian collusion hoax.

    “Anyone who thinks Barack Obama’s going to be indicted: It’s not
    going to happen,” Solomon admitted. “President Trump’s immunity
    victory last year in the Supreme Court’s gonna protect Barack
    Obama. Barack Obama should send a thank-you card to Donald Trump.”

    But is Solomon right?

    The case Solomon is referring to, Trump v. United States (2024),
    was, of course, extremely consequential, but also widely
    misunderstood. Democrats branded the ruling as the Supreme Court
    granting “blanket immunity” for presidents, but that’s not what it
    does at all. While the Court recognized a degree of immunity for
    official acts of the presidency, it drew a sharp line between what
    a president does in his constitutional role and what he does as a
    private individual or political actor.

    From the ruling itself:

    It is these enduring principles that guide our decision in this
    case. The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and
    not everything the President does is official. The President is not
    above the law.

    With that in mind, the ruling does not give presidents the power to
    break the law with impunity. If a president lies to federal
    investigators, commits fraud, or abuses power outside the scope of
    his official duties, he can still face prosecution.

    The Court explicitly left the door open for criminal charges—even
    against sitting or former presidents—if the conduct in question was
    personal, political, or unrelated to the legitimate functions of
    the presidency. And, let’s be honest: What Barack Obama did during
    the Russian collusion hoax wasn’t just political—it was a
    calculated abuse of power far outside the bounds of his official
    role.

    If a president lies to federal investigators, forges documents, or
    uses the office for personal or political revenge, those are not
    protected actions. He can be charged under the same criminal
    statutes as anyone else. For example, 18 U.S.C. § 1001 makes it a
    crime to lie to federal officials. Wire fraud, under 18 U.S.C. §
    1343, covers schemes involving deceit through electronic
    communication. Other statutes—like aiding and abetting (18 U.S.C. §
    2), being an accessory after the fact (18 U.S.C. § 3), or even
    seditious conspiracy (18 U.S.C.§ 2384)—can all apply if the
    president helps orchestrate or cover up unlawful acts.

    That brings us to the documents released by Director of National
    Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, which suggest Barack Obama may have
    done exactly that. The material is nothing short of explosive. It
    confirms that Obama’s inner circle—including James Clapper and John
    Brennan, under Obama’s direction—engineered a political smear
    campaign disguised as an intelligence assessment. According to the
    files, a high-level meeting in December 2016, led by Obama’s top
    national security officials, launched the coordinated leaks to the
    media about so-called Russian election interference—even though pre-
    election intelligence assessments found no such evidence.

    “The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly
    point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of this
    intelligence assessment,” Gabbard stated.

    So obviously, the evidence suggests Obama is not innocent. The only
    real question now is whether he’ll ever be held accountable—or if
    the system will once again protect one of its own. That’s an
    entirely different question.

    https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/07/25/actually-obama-can-be- indicted-heres-why-n4942091

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Obama Should Be Executed on Sat Jul 26 09:11:23 2025
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    On 2025-07-26 06:42, Obama Should Be Executed wrote:
    This week, investigative journalist John Solomon told Steve Bannon
    that despite all the evidence that has been declassified linking
    Barack Obama to the Russiagate hoax, Obama won’t and can't be
    indicted for his role in the Russian collusion hoax.

    “Anyone who thinks Barack Obama’s going to be indicted: It’s not
    going to happen,” Solomon admitted. “President Trump’s immunity
    victory last year in the Supreme Court’s gonna protect Barack
    Obama. Barack Obama should send a thank-you card to Donald Trump.”

    But is Solomon right?

    The case Solomon is referring to, Trump v. United States (2024),
    was, of course, extremely consequential, but also widely
    misunderstood. Democrats branded the ruling as the Supreme Court
    granting “blanket immunity” for presidents, but that’s not what it
    does at all. While the Court recognized a degree of immunity for
    official acts of the presidency, it drew a sharp line between what
    a president does in his constitutional role and what he does as a
    private individual or political actor.

    From the ruling itself:

    It is these enduring principles that guide our decision in this
    case. The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and
    not everything the President does is official. The President is not
    above the law.

    With that in mind, the ruling does not give presidents the power to
    break the law with impunity. If a president lies to federal
    investigators, commits fraud, or abuses power outside the scope of
    his official duties, he can still face prosecution.

    The Court explicitly left the door open for criminal charges—even
    against sitting or former presidents—if the conduct in question was personal, political, or unrelated to the legitimate functions of
    the presidency. And, let’s be honest: What Barack Obama did during
    the Russian collusion hoax wasn’t just political—it was a
    calculated abuse of power far outside the bounds of his official
    role.

    If a president lies to federal investigators, forges documents, or
    uses the office for personal or political revenge, those are not
    protected actions. He can be charged under the same criminal
    statutes as anyone else. For example, 18 U.S.C. § 1001 makes it a
    crime to lie to federal officials. Wire fraud, under 18 U.S.C. §
    1343, covers schemes involving deceit through electronic
    communication. Other statutes—like aiding and abetting (18 U.S.C. §
    2), being an accessory after the fact (18 U.S.C. § 3), or even
    seditious conspiracy (18 U.S.C.§ 2384)—can all apply if the
    president helps orchestrate or cover up unlawful acts.

    That brings us to the documents released by Director of National
    Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, which suggest Barack Obama may have
    done exactly that. The material is nothing short of explosive. It
    confirms that Obama’s inner circle—including James Clapper and John Brennan, under Obama’s direction—engineered a political smear
    campaign disguised as an intelligence assessment. According to the
    files, a high-level meeting in December 2016, led by Obama’s top
    national security officials, launched the coordinated leaks to the
    media about so-called Russian election interference—even though pre- election intelligence assessments found no such evidence.

    “The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly
    point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of this
    intelligence assessment,” Gabbard stated.

    So obviously, the evidence suggests Obama is not innocent. The only
    real question now is whether he’ll ever be held accountable—or if
    the system will once again protect one of its own. That’s an
    entirely different question.

    https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/07/25/actually-obama-can-be- indicted-heres-why-n4942091


    The whole Trump administration argument is a straw man.

    They present early assessments about the actual hacking of the voting
    machines (and/or the vote tallying) where the administration accepted
    reports that hadn't happened...

    ...and then try to say that investigations into OTHER ways of
    influencing the election were bogus.

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