• Re: Dork Thinks Biden's Immigration Wasn't a Negative Sum Game

    From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sat Aug 9 15:51:19 2025
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    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sun Aug 10 10:42:06 2025
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    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 17:08:05 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:


    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Good job, President Zombie!

    https://i.imgur.com/jwiaJHD.mp4

    Well Gronk is mentally defective so there's that too.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Aug 10 10:46:59 2025
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    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
    million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's
    probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sun Aug 10 13:22:08 2025
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    On 2025-08-09 18:49, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    Yes, there is... many.

    I don't have a cite.

    (IHM)

    "how many illegal crossings since 2021"

    duckduckgo

    google
    Sorry, but that 11,000,000 figure is for "encounters" and not all those
    who were encountered ended up in the US.

    Google it.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Aug 10 13:26:32 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
    million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been
    released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or
    report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Aug 11 07:26:18 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
    million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's
    probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been >released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or
    report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other >classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend
    that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened
    to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Aug 11 11:37:15 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
    million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's
    probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/ >>>
    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been
    released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or
    report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other
    classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend
    that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened
    to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 12 06:23:34 2025
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    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
    million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's >>>> probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/ >>>>
    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been
    released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or
    report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other
    classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend
    that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened
    to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Aug 12 05:59:05 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5 >>>>> million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's >>>>> probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/ >>>>>
    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been
    released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or
    report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other
    classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend
    that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened
    to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

    They do mention what the deportation number actually is.

    Hint: pie chart.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Aug 12 09:17:04 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-12 07:59, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5 >>>>>>> million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's >>>>>>> probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been >>>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or >>>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other >>>>>> classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend >>>>> that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened >>>>> to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

    They do mention what the deportation number actually is.

    Hint: pie chart.

    Who CARES?

    It wasn't anywhere NEAR those who had made it in and stayed,
    And then... ...reality:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been
    released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or
    report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other classifications, such as parole.'

    So, 6.5 million minus 2.5 million is how many, Phil?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Aug 12 10:01:59 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-11 13:31, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan says...


    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people
    have been released into the U.S. with notices to appear in
    immigration court or report to Immigration and Customs
    Enforcement in the future, or other classifications, such as
    parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a
    trend that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to
    what happened to the others you mention above, they don't
    mention what the deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    And you lacked the wit to rebut my "encounters" burn.

    You tucked tail, ran and then whined about my use of the word
    "PLONK!" (see below)

    "Encounters" in Mexico, if they ever happen, don't count... only
    when the illegals cross OUR border, are they then deemed
    "encounters", so YOUR bullshit argument, is just that.

    Except no one has been discussing encounters in Mexico, Phil.

    That's another straw man.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Aug 12 10:45:04 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-12 10:13, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 09:17:04 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-12 07:59, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
    million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's
    probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been >>>>>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or >>>>>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other >>>>>>>> classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend >>>>>>> that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened >>>>>>> to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

    They do mention what the deportation number actually is.

    Hint: pie chart.

    Who CARES?

    It wasn't anywhere NEAR those who had made it in and stayed,
    And then... ...reality:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP

    Update your numbers, disingenuous faggot.
    Put back the text that followed, you scared little pussy.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Aug 12 23:13:54 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-12, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 09:17:04 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-12 07:59, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
    million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's
    probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been >> >>>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or >> >>>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other >> >>>>>> classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend >> >>>>> that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened >> >>>>> to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

    They do mention what the deportation number actually is.

    Hint: pie chart.

    Who CARES?

    It wasn't anywhere NEAR those who had made it in and stayed,
    And then... ...reality:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP

    Update your numbers, disingenuous faggot.

    And this is only to Sept. 30.

    The claim is misleading. According to to CBP's Nationwide Encounter data, a total of 1,956,519 nationwide encounters occurred
    during FY 2021. Similarly, the same data shows a total of 2,766,582 nationwide encounters occurred during FY 2022, while a total of
    3,201,144 nationwide encounters occurred during FY 2023. A total of 2,756,646 encounters have occurred during FY 2024 to date. The
    CBP website indicates nationwide encounter data includes Title 8 Apprehensions, Office of Field Operations (OFO) Title 8
    Inadmissibles, and Title 42 Expulsions for FY 2020 to FY 2023. Demographics included in the data represent accompanied minors,
    individuals in a family unit, single adults, and unaccompanied children/single minors.

    1,956,519
    2,766,582
    3,201,144
    2,756,646
    _________

    10,680,891

    Again... that's only to Sept.

    Extrapolate another 3+ months in there, and?

    ELEVEN MILLION.

    Check Your Fact added the total number of nationwide encounters representing FY 2021 to FY 2024 to date and arrived at 10,680,891.
    Back in May 2024, the Republican-led House Committee on Homeland Security issued a press release stating the Biden-Harris
    administration was "on track" to reach 10 million nationwide encounters "well before the end of the fiscal year" on September 30.



    Here are statistics from today august 12, 2025.

    <https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/another-record-setting-month-cbp-border-continues-be-most-secure>

    """Another record-setting month at CBP: Border continues to be most secure in history
    Release Date Tue, 08/12/2025
    Zero illegal aliens released into the country for the third consecutive month

    WASHINGTON — U.S. Customs and Border Protection today released finalized operational statistics for July 2025, recording another historic performance across the agency’s core missions.

    “History made, again. The numbers don’t lie—this is the most secure the border has ever been. President Donald J. Trump didn’t just manage the crisis—he obliterated it. No more excuses. No more releases. We’ve put the cartels on defense and
    taken our border back.” –Secretary Kristi Noem

    “CBP shut down illegal crossings again this month, setting enforcement records and collecting billions in tariffs. This is what making America great and safe again looks like.” – CBP Commissioner Rodney Scott

    Below is a snapshot of July’s key figures. Full monthly reporting can be viewed on CBP’s Stats and Summaries webpage.

    Border Enforcement at Historic Levels
    Illegal crossings in July dropped to the lowest level ever recorded – just a fraction of what they were under the previous administration.

    24,628 total encounters nationwide — the lowest monthly total in CBP history for the second consecutive month
    6,177 U.S. Border Patrol apprehensions nationwide — 23% lower than the previous record low in June of 8,018, and 90% down from July 2024 with 59,655 illegal aliens
    4,601 southwest border apprehensions — 24% lower than the previous record low in June of 6,070, and 92% down from July 2024 with 56,400 illegal aliens
    116 apprehensions on July 20 — the lowest single-day total in agency history Zero parole releases — compared to 12,365 released by the Border Patrol under the Biden Administration along the southwest border in July 2024
    Visit for more encounter statistics.

    Drug Interdictions That Save Lives
    As the largest law enforcement agency in the United States, CBP is uniquely positioned to detect, identify, and seize illicit drugs like fentanyl before they enter our communities. In July, CBP seized 968 pounds of fentanyl, an increase of 30% from June.

    Additional breakdown by substance (compared to June):

    Heroin seizures surged 86%
    Marijuana seizures rose 32%
    Additional CBP drug seizure statistics can be found on the Drug Seizure Statistics webpage.

    Tariff Enforcement & Economic Security
    Holistic border security drives economic security. CBP plays a central role in enforcing U.S. trade law at the border, including the implementation of 25 presidential tariff actions directed by the Trump administration. In July 2025 alone, CBP:

    Processed $307 billion in imports
    Identified $30.4 billion in duties owed
    From January 20 through July 31, CBP has collected:

    $140.8 billion from all tariffs, taxes, and fees
    Through audits, targeting, and frontline import reviews, CBP is enforcing trade law and safeguarding America’s economic sovereignty.

    Visit our CBP’s tariff implementation page for more"""


    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 13 06:59:12 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5 >>>>>> million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's >>>>>> probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/ >>>>>>
    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been >>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or >>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other >>>>> classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend
    that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened
    to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

    They do mention what the deportation number actually is.

    Hint: pie chart.

    Percentage not a number.

    But interesting that you've tacitly admitted that the number of border
    crossing claimed is pretty much on target. That's what I originally
    commented and you've been replying about something I didn't comment on
    to divert from that.


    Typical.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Aug 13 07:01:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-13 03:59, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5 >>>>>>> million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's >>>>>>> probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been >>>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or >>>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other >>>>>> classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend >>>>> that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened >>>>> to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

    They do mention what the deportation number actually is.

    Hint: pie chart.

    Percentage not a number.

    Hint: percentages can be multiplied by a number.


    But interesting that you've tacitly admitted that the number of border crossing claimed is pretty much on target. That's what I originally commented and you've been replying about something I didn't comment on
    to divert from that.

    Interesting that you've "forgotten" how to multiply percentages.



    Typical.

    Indeed.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 13 22:22:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-13, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-13 03:59, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5 >>>>>>>> million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's >>>>>>>> probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been >>>>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or >>>>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other >>>>>>> classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend >>>>>> that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened >>>>>> to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

    They do mention what the deportation number actually is.

    Hint: pie chart.

    Percentage not a number.

    Hint: percentages can be multiplied by a number.


    But interesting that you've tacitly admitted that the number of border
    crossing claimed is pretty much on target. That's what I originally
    commented and you've been replying about something I didn't comment on
    to divert from that.

    Interesting that you've "forgotten" how to multiply percentages.



    Typical.

    Indeed.

    The left can play the numbers/semantics game all they want but the facts are that under
    Trump, the border is secure.

    See masses of migrants lined up to enter the country?
    See masses of people camping out under highway overpasses?
    See masses of migrants being transported in the middle of the night to
    places in the USA?

    Nope.

    That is all gone, along with Joe Biden.
    Now the next stage is to deport the worst of the worst and that is being done. Hey, maybe they can be deported to Canada?
    Now that's a great idea.



    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 14 06:54:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 07:01:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-13 03:59, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5 >>>>>>>> million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's >>>>>>>> probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been >>>>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or >>>>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other >>>>>>> classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend >>>>>> that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened >>>>>> to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

    They do mention what the deportation number actually is.

    Hint: pie chart.

    Percentage not a number.

    Hint: percentages can be multiplied by a number.

    Laughter!

    My original statment stands.



    But interesting that you've tacitly admitted that the number of border
    crossing claimed is pretty much on target. That's what I originally
    commented and you've been replying about something I didn't comment on
    to divert from that.

    Interesting that you've "forgotten" how to multiply percentages.

    Why are you still talking about deportations when I'm talking about
    encounters?




    Typical.

    Indeed.

    Yep. You're clueless.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Aug 15 07:03:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 06:54:58 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 07:01:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-13 03:59, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 05:59:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-12 03:23, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:37:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-11 04:26, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 13:26:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-10 07:46, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-09 15:08, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:51:02 -0600, Gronk says...

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from
    the US over the last fiscal year

    vs.

    11,000,000 illegal border crossings from 2021 to 2025.

    Cite for that figure?

    From 2021 to 2023 using the likely underrported numbers it was 6.5
    million. Extrapolate that out to cover the missing two years and it's
    probably not too far off.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

    Do you have something different to offer?

    How about your own source:

    'Of those 6.5 million encounters by CBP, 2.5 million people have been >>>>>>>> released into the U.S. with notices to appear in immigration court or >>>>>>>> report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other >>>>>>>> classifications, such as parole.'

    Oops.

    Clearly you misunderstood what I said. The information shows a trend >>>>>>> that supports his claim of 11,000,000 crossings. As to what happened >>>>>>> to the others you mention above, they don't mention what the
    deportation number actually was.

    Actually, they do. You just lacked the wit to see it.

    You may "explain" it to me.

    This should be good....

    They do mention what the deportation number actually is.

    Hint: pie chart.

    Percentage not a number.

    Hint: percentages can be multiplied by a number.

    Laughter!

    My original statment stands.



    But interesting that you've tacitly admitted that the number of border
    crossing claimed is pretty much on target. That's what I originally
    commented and you've been replying about something I didn't comment on
    to divert from that.

    Interesting that you've "forgotten" how to multiply percentages.

    Why are you still talking about deportations when I'm talking about >encounters?




    Typical.

    Indeed.

    Yep. You're clueless.

    And crickets.wav....

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