• After Going To The Gaza Border And Seeing Aid Get Turned Back, Helen Cl

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 12 01:11:06 2025
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    Former 🇳🇿 PM Helen Clark, along with former 🇮🇪 President Mary Robinson, paid a visit to the Rafah crossing and witnessed first-hand Israel’s systematic blocking of desperately-needed aid shipments into
    Gaza <https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360788445/after-going-gaza-border-and-seeing-aid-get-turned-back-helen-clark-had-withering-words-nz>.

    Twice in the time I’ve been in NZ, I have witnessed this country take
    a courageously independent stand against the wishes of the USA and our
    own neighbour Australia. The last example was in 2003, when Clark was
    our Prime Minister; she refused to have us jump into the disastrous
    Iraq invasion that George W Bush and Tony Blair were trying to coax
    everybody into joining in. Certainly the Aussies were keen on that
    one.

    I’ve said more than once, that Australia would like to be the US when
    it grows up. But here, we have the issue of the recognition of a
    Palestinian state, where for once the Aussies are ahead of us, having
    already announced their decision while our own Government is still
    hemming and hawing over whether it’s a good idea.

    The right of self-determination of a nation is a non-negotiable right.
    It is not some bargaining chip to be used to “reward” anybody for
    behaving like obedient, subservient colonized subjects of repressive
    and brutal colonizers.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Cai@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Thu Aug 21 14:10:03 2025
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    On Tue, 12 Aug 2025, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
    |"The last example was in 2003, when Clark was our Prime Minister; she| |refused to have us jump into the disastrous Iraq invasion that George|
    |W Bush and Tony Blair were trying to coax everybody into joining in."| |---------------------------------------------------------------------|

    Cf. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/drochdhliodoiri/mu/na_Staitean_Aonaichte_Aimeireaga/George_Walker_Bush/George_Walker_Bush_about_a_war.webm
    via "Have I Got News For You" (
    HTTPS://WWW.BBC.co.UK/programmes/b006mkw3
    ).

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