• Re: We Have A Murder Problem In America - Especially In Red States

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    Red States Have Higher Gun Death Rates Than Blue States. Heres Why

    ByArianna Johnson,

    Former Staff.
    Johnson is a Forbes news reporter covering health & science trends.
    Apr 28, 2023, 09:22am EDTApr 28, 2023, 12:26pm EDT
    This article is more than 2 years old.
    Topline

    A new study published in Journal of the American Medical Associations
    Surgery found that firearm deaths are more likely in small rural towns than
    in major urban cities, adding to research that contradicts common belief
    that Democratic blue areas have higher incidences of gun-related deaths
    than do Republican red districts.
    Firearm Laws To Be Tightened In Britain
    Firearms on display.
    Getty Images
    Key Facts

    Researchers from Childrens Hospital Philadelphia, Columbia University
    Mailman School of Public Health and the University of California examined
    two decades of mortality rates and cause-of-death data from the National
    Center for Health Statistics National Vital Statistics System to compile
    the study.

    A Third Way report found that between 2000 and 2020, Trump-voting states
    had 12% higher murder rates than did Biden-voting cities.

    Data shows that in 2020, eight of the ten states with the highest murder
    rates voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election in
    this century.

    In the past, Republicans have made crime a major campaign talking pointin October 2022, one quarter of attack ads on Democrats focused on crime, and
    in the two months leading up to the midterms, Fox aired about 141 crime segments on weekdays, according to the report.

    A report published in the New England Journal of Medicine found guns became
    the leading cause of death for children starting in 2017motor vehicle-
    related deaths held the number one spot for 60 years prior.
    Surprising Fact

    The JAMA Surgery study also found that gun suicides are more common than
    gun homicides, with gun suicides accounting for a large increase in gun
    deaths in recent years.
    Big Number

    45,222. Thats how many people died in the U. S. due to gun-related injuries
    in 2020, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Of
    that number, gun suicides account for 54%.
    Crucial Quote

    Despite the pervasive nature of gun violence, high rates of gun homicide in urban centers have been the sole focus of many policymakers and used as justification to loosen gun laws, when in fact gun violence is an issue in counties of all sizes, the researchers of the JAMA Surgery study said.
    PROMOTED
    States With The Highest Gun Death Rates

    According to data from the CDC, these are the states with the highest
    firearm mortality rates per 100,000 in 2021:

    Mississippi had a firearm mortality rate of 33.9, making it the state with
    the highest rate in 2021. The state also used its electoral votes to vote
    for then President Trump in the 2020 election.
    Louisiana had a firearm mortality rate of 29.1 and voted for Trump.
    New Mexico had a firearm mortality rate of 27.8 and voted for President
    Biden.
    Alabama had a firearm mortality rate of 26.4 and voted for Trump.
    Wyoming had a firearm mortality rate of 26.1 and voted for Trump.
    Alaska had a firearm mortality rate of 25.2 and voted for Trump.
    Montana had a firearm mortality rate of 25.1 and voted for Trump.
    Arkansas had a firearm mortality rate of 23.3 and voted for Trump.
    Missouri had a firearm mortality rate of 23.2 and voted for Trump.
    Tennessee had a firearm mortality rate of 22.8 and voted for Trump.
    South Carolina had a firearm mortality rate of 22.4 and voted for Trump. Oklahoma had a firearm mortality rate of 21.2 and voted for Trump.
    Georgia had a firearm mortality rate of 20.3 and voted for Biden.
    Nevada had a firearm mortality rate of 19.8 and voted for Biden.
    Indiana had a firearm mortality rate of 18.4 and voted for Trump.

    States With The Lowest Gun Death Rates

    Massachusetts has a firearm mortality rate of 3.4 and voted for Biden.
    Hawaii has a firearm mortality rate of 4.8 and voted for Biden.
    New Jersey has a firearm mortality rate of 5.2 and voted for Biden.
    New York has a firearm mortality rate of 5.4 and voted for Biden.
    Rhode Island has a firearm mortality rate of 5.6 and voted for Biden. Connecticut has a firearm mortality rate of 6.7 and voted for Biden.
    New Hampshire has a firearm mortality rate of 8.3 and voted for Biden. California has a firearm mortality rate of 9.0 and voted for Biden.
    Minnesota has a firearm mortality rate of 10.0 and voted for Biden.
    Nebraska has a firearm mortality rate of 10.3 and voted for Trump.
    Iowa has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and voted for Trump.
    Washington has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and voted for Biden.
    Vermont has a firearm mortality rate of 11.9 and voted for Biden.
    Maine has a firearm mortality rate of 12.6 and voted for Biden.
    Wisconsin has a firearm mortality rate of 13.5 and voted for Biden.

    Republicans On Gun Crimes

    Contrary to popular belief, the South is the geographical region with the highest gun-related crime rates, and these states largely have been Republican-run for years. Fifteen of the 20 states with the highest firearm mortality rates are led by Republicans. However, Republican lawmakers have historically used gun-related crime rates against Democrats. After the May
    2, 2022, Robb Elementary school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, that left 21
    people dead, Gov. Greg Abbott dismissed suggestions that the state could
    save lives by implementing stricter gun laws by saying, Chicago and L. A.
    and New York disprove that thesis. In July 2022, Trump called the U. S. a cesspool since he left office, pinpointing New York, Chicago and Los
    Angeles, and explaining these were places where the middle class used to
    flock to live the American dream (but) are now war zones, literal war
    zones. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis criticized New York for allowing criminals
    to run wild, while praising Florida for having a stricter crime policy.



    Data suggests New York saw significant drops in homicides between 2021 and 2022, while Florida saw significant increases. According to Third Way, some Republicans argue crime rates in their states are only high because of the
    blue cities within them. But murder rates have increased in rural, urban
    and suburban locales.


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have- higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/

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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    What did I supposedly write here?



    Red States Have Higher Gun Death Rates Than Blue States. Heres Why

    ByArianna Johnson,

    Former Staff.
    Johnson is a Forbes news reporter covering health & science trends.
    Apr 28, 2023, 09:22am EDTApr 28, 2023, 12:26pm EDT
    This article is more than 2 years old.
    Topline

    A new study published in Journal of the American Medical Associations
    Surgery found that firearm deaths are more likely in small rural towns than in major urban cities, adding to research that contradicts common belief
    that Democratic blue areas have higher incidences of gun-related deaths
    than do Republican red districts.
    Firearm Laws To Be Tightened In Britain
    Firearms on display.
    Getty Images
    Key Facts

    Researchers from Childrens Hospital Philadelphia, Columbia University
    Mailman School of Public Health and the University of California examined
    two decades of mortality rates and cause-of-death data from the National Center for Health Statistics National Vital Statistics System to compile
    the study.

    A Third Way report found that between 2000 and 2020, Trump-voting states
    had 12% higher murder rates than did Biden-voting cities.

    Data shows that in 2020, eight of the ten states with the highest murder rates voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election in
    this century.

    In the past, Republicans have made crime a major campaign talking pointin October 2022, one quarter of attack ads on Democrats focused on crime, and
    in the two months leading up to the midterms, Fox aired about 141 crime segments on weekdays, according to the report.

    A report published in the New England Journal of Medicine found guns became the leading cause of death for children starting in 2017motor vehicle- related deaths held the number one spot for 60 years prior.
    Surprising Fact

    The JAMA Surgery study also found that gun suicides are more common than
    gun homicides, with gun suicides accounting for a large increase in gun deaths in recent years.
    Big Number

    45,222. Thats how many people died in the U. S. due to gun-related injuries in 2020, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Of
    that number, gun suicides account for 54%.
    Crucial Quote

    Despite the pervasive nature of gun violence, high rates of gun homicide in urban centers have been the sole focus of many policymakers and used as justification to loosen gun laws, when in fact gun violence is an issue in counties of all sizes, the researchers of the JAMA Surgery study said. PROMOTED
    States With The Highest Gun Death Rates

    According to data from the CDC, these are the states with the highest
    firearm mortality rates per 100,000 in 2021:

    Mississippi had a firearm mortality rate of 33.9, making it the state with the highest rate in 2021. The state also used its electoral votes to vote
    for then President Trump in the 2020 election.
    Louisiana had a firearm mortality rate of 29.1 and voted for Trump.
    New Mexico had a firearm mortality rate of 27.8 and voted for President Biden.
    Alabama had a firearm mortality rate of 26.4 and voted for Trump.
    Wyoming had a firearm mortality rate of 26.1 and voted for Trump.
    Alaska had a firearm mortality rate of 25.2 and voted for Trump.
    Montana had a firearm mortality rate of 25.1 and voted for Trump.
    Arkansas had a firearm mortality rate of 23.3 and voted for Trump.
    Missouri had a firearm mortality rate of 23.2 and voted for Trump.
    Tennessee had a firearm mortality rate of 22.8 and voted for Trump.
    South Carolina had a firearm mortality rate of 22.4 and voted for Trump. Oklahoma had a firearm mortality rate of 21.2 and voted for Trump.
    Georgia had a firearm mortality rate of 20.3 and voted for Biden.
    Nevada had a firearm mortality rate of 19.8 and voted for Biden.
    Indiana had a firearm mortality rate of 18.4 and voted for Trump.

    States With The Lowest Gun Death Rates

    Massachusetts has a firearm mortality rate of 3.4 and voted for Biden.
    Hawaii has a firearm mortality rate of 4.8 and voted for Biden.
    New Jersey has a firearm mortality rate of 5.2 and voted for Biden.
    New York has a firearm mortality rate of 5.4 and voted for Biden.
    Rhode Island has a firearm mortality rate of 5.6 and voted for Biden. Connecticut has a firearm mortality rate of 6.7 and voted for Biden.
    New Hampshire has a firearm mortality rate of 8.3 and voted for Biden. California has a firearm mortality rate of 9.0 and voted for Biden.
    Minnesota has a firearm mortality rate of 10.0 and voted for Biden.
    Nebraska has a firearm mortality rate of 10.3 and voted for Trump.
    Iowa has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and voted for Trump.
    Washington has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and voted for Biden.
    Vermont has a firearm mortality rate of 11.9 and voted for Biden.
    Maine has a firearm mortality rate of 12.6 and voted for Biden.
    Wisconsin has a firearm mortality rate of 13.5 and voted for Biden.

    Republicans On Gun Crimes

    Contrary to popular belief, the South is the geographical region with the highest gun-related crime rates, and these states largely have been Republican-run for years. Fifteen of the 20 states with the highest firearm mortality rates are led by Republicans. However, Republican lawmakers have historically used gun-related crime rates against Democrats. After the May
    2, 2022, Robb Elementary school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, that left 21 people dead, Gov. Greg Abbott dismissed suggestions that the state could
    save lives by implementing stricter gun laws by saying, Chicago and L. A.
    and New York disprove that thesis. In July 2022, Trump called the U. S. a cesspool since he left office, pinpointing New York, Chicago and Los
    Angeles, and explaining these were places where the middle class used to flock to live the American dream (but) are now war zones, literal war
    zones. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis criticized New York for allowing criminals to run wild, while praising Florida for having a stricter crime policy.



    Data suggests New York saw significant drops in homicides between 2021 and 2022, while Florida saw significant increases. According to Third Way, some Republicans argue crime rates in their states are only high because of the blue cities within them. But murder rates have increased in rural, urban
    and suburban locales.


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have- higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/




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  • From tRUMP-WATCH@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 17 17:28:52 2025
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    The murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Donald Trump has
    exceeded the murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Joe Biden in
    every
    year from 2000 to 2020.
    Over this 21-year span, this Red State murder gap has steadily widened
    from a low of 9% more per capita red state murders in 2003 and 2004 to 44%
    more per capita red state murders in 2019, before settling back to 43% in
    2020.
    Altogether, the per capita Red State murder rate was 23% higher than
    the Blue State murder rate when all 21 years were combined.
    If Blue State murder rates were as high as Red State murder rates, Biden-voting states would have suffered over 45,000 more murders between
    2000 and 2020.
    Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed,
    overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-
    voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21
    years observed.


    Takeaways

    The red state murder rate was 33% higher than the blue state murder
    rate in both 2021 and 2022. 2022 was the 23rd consecutive year that
    murder plagued Trump-voting states at far higher levels than
    Biden-voting states. 8 out of the 10 states with the highest murder
    rates in 2022 voted for Donald Trump in both 2016 and 2020. From 2000
    to 2022, the average red state murder rate was 24% higher than the
    average blue state murder rate. Red states like Mississippi,
    Louisiana, and Alabama are America’s murder capitals and have had the
    highest three murder rates for 15 of the last 23 years. The excuse
    that sky high red state murder rates are because of their blue cities
    is without merit. Even after removing the county with the largest city
    from red states, and not from blue states, red state murder rates were
    still 20% higher in 2021 and 16% higher in 2022.

    House Republicans held three field hearings on violent crime last year in
    New York City, Chicago, and Washington DC. These hearings should have been
    held in the murder-plagued states of Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama.
    In 2023, Speaker Johnson’s hometown of Shreveport, Louisiana had a murder
    rate 8 times higher (41.1) than Minority Leader Jeffries’ hometown of
    Brooklyn, New York (5.0), 6 times higher than Nancy Pelosi’s San
    Francisco, California (6.6), and more than 7 times higher than the
    national average (5.5). Our 2023 report in the Red State Murder Problem
    series found that murder rates were significantly higher in red states
    than blue states every year from 2000 to 2020. Over these 21 years, the
    red state murder rate was 23% higher than the blue state murder rate. Our analysis of the latest CDC data found that 2021 and 2022 were no
    exception.

    This report analyzes homicide data from 2021 and 2022 for all 50 states
    from the Center of Disease Control Wonder’s National Center for Health Statistics Mortality Data. Data is based on death certificates collected
    by state registries and provided to the National Vital Statistics System.
    Like in our previous report, we chose CDC data over FBI data because it’s
    more up to date and does not rely on voluntary reporting from counties and states. All states are required to report mortality data to the CDC while they’re only encouraged to report crime data to the FBI. To allow for comparison across states, we calculated the state’s per capita murder
    rate, the number of murders per 100,000 residents, and categorized states
    by their presidential vote in the 2020 election, resulting in an even
    25-25 state split.

    We found that murder rates were down 5% nationwide in 2022, but a red
    state murder gap still persists. Murder rates in red states were 33%
    higher than in blue states in both 2021 and 2022. As in 2019 and 2020, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama hold the first, second, and third
    highest murder rates in the country, respectively. The rest of the 10
    states with the highest murder rates include the usual suspects—South
    Carolina, Missouri, Tennessee, New Mexico, and Georgia. States with the
    highest murder rates continue to be dominated by red states, not perennial
    blue states like New York and California. Even when we removed the county
    with the largest city in red states (and kept them in for blue states),
    murder rates in red states were still 20% higher in 2021 and 16% higher in 2022. This is not a blue cities in red states problem.

    Our analysis confirms that murder rates have been higher in red states
    than blue states every year this century. Yet, the prevalent media and political narrative is that crime is rampant in Democrat-run states and
    cities when the reality is that people are far safer in New York City than
    in over a dozen red states. The murder crisis continues to be far higher
    in red states in 2021 and 2022.

    Murder rates in red states were 33% higher than in blue states in both
    2021 and 2022. In 2021, the average red state murder rate was 9.0 per
    100,000 residents while the average blue state murder rate was 6.8 per
    100,000. In 2022, both these numbers dropped slightly to 8.5 per 100,000 residents and 6.4 per 100,000 residents, respectively. If blue states had
    a murder rate as high as red states, they would have seen 4,255 additional murders in 2021 and 3,971 additional murders in 2022.

    While murder rates thankfully dropped in both red and blue states in 2022,
    red states still see a murder rate significantly higher than blue states
    have ever seen. Over the past 23 years, the murder rate in blue states hit
    its peak in 2021 at 6.8, significantly lower than red states’ peak at 9.0
    the same year. Red states haven’t seen a murder rate under 6.8 since 2015,
    when the murder rate was 6.4. Red states clearly have a murder problem
    that defies the easy media narrative prevalent today. Mississippi,
    Louisiana, and Alabama continue to dominate the top three spots.

    Since 2016, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have had the three highest murder rates in the country. This trend actually goes back to 2008, with
    just one year, 2015, where Maryland replaced Alabama in the top three.
    These three red states have consistently had the highest murder rates for
    over 15 years now. You would never know it based on the media.

    For example, Republicans and the media constantly talk about rampant crime
    in California and New York, but those two states’ murder rates don’t even
    crack the top 25. In 2021, California had the 26th highest murder rate and
    New York had the 33rd highest rate. In 2022, California had the 30th and
    New York had the 35th highest murder rates. Mississippi and Louisiana’s
    murder rates have been more than three times California’s over the past
    two years. And more than four times New York’s. If California had the same murder rate as Mississippi, 5,101 more people would have been killed in
    2022. If New York had the same murder rate as Louisiana, 2,814 more people would have died.

    The rest of the top 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2021 and
    2022 include usual suspects like New Mexico, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia. In 2021, 6 out of the 10 states with the highest
    murder rates voted for Donald Trump in 2020. In 2022, 8 out of 10 voted
    for Donald Trump. Red states like Tennessee and South Carolina have consistently been in the top 10 since 2000, with Arkansas joining the mix
    in 2004 and Missouri in 2008. Blue states like New Mexico and Georgia have consistently been in the top 10 since 2000. Maryland and Illinois were in
    the top 10 in 2021 but dropped off in 2022 when their murder rates
    decreased by 16% and 15%, respectively. They were replaced in the top 10
    by Arkansas and Alaska. Alaska saw an unexpected 51% increase in homicides
    from 2021 to 2022, bringing them from the 24th highest murder rate to the
    10th highest.

    The bottom line is that red states have dominated, and continue to
    dominate, the top 10 states with the highest murder rates since 2000.

    Even when large cities are removed from red states, murder rates are still higher.

    Red states have a ready excuse for their high murder rates: the blue
    cities located within them. This is laughable. First of all, blue states
    have more blue cities than red states. That’s what makes them blue.
    Second, the numbers don’t lie even when giving red states some extra help.

    We removed all of the murders in the county with the largest city for 22
    of 25 red states. Three red states—North Dakota, Wyoming, and Idaho—didn’t
    have large enough cities to perform this exercise, so we used their
    original rate. We did not give this advantage to blue states. Even with
    this special help, the red state murder problem still persisted.
    (Information on which counties were removed is in the methods section
    below.)

    In 2021, after removing the largest cities, red states still had a murder
    rate 20% higher than blue states. Even after removing Jackson and New
    Orleans, Mississippi and Louisiana still had the two highest murder rates
    in the country. Alabama still held the number three spot, and South
    Carolina the number five spot. Removing big blue cities from red states
    didn’t make much of a difference in state rankings.

    In 2022, red states still had a murder rate 16% higher than blue states
    after removing their largest cities. Alabama actually jumped from the
    number three spot to the number one spot. Mississippi held the second
    spot, New Mexico (a blue state that did not get added help) the third, and Louisiana the fourth. So, while there was some small movement of states in
    this exercise, the theme stayed the same: red states continued to dominate
    the states with the highest murder rates, even after we gave them the
    advantage of removing their largest city.

    But we shouldn’t have to remove these cities from our analysis because
    blue cities in red states are still beholden to red state laws. Laws that
    make it easy for criminals to traffic and buy guns (86% of homicides are committed with a gun). Laws that underinvest in cities, law enforcement,
    and social programs. Laws that are responsible for the highest poverty
    rates and the highest gun violence rates in the country. The fact that
    murder rates are high all across red states, not just in cities, tells us
    that state laws play a part in their crime problem. Blue states spend 33%
    more money per capita on policing than red states.

    For years, Republicans have struck political gold by accusing Democrats of “defunding the police.” And for many voters, those accusations have stuck.
    In 2022, 48% of voters believed that the Democratic party supports
    defunding the police. But the data tells a different story.

    Using the 2021 Annual Survey of State and Local Government Finances from
    the US Census Bureau, we analyzed police spending in all 50 states. We
    found that blue states spent 33% more money per capita on policing than
    red states. In 2021, blue states on average spent $453.67 per resident on policing while red states only spent $341.37 per resident.

    Many of the states accused of “defunding the police,” like California, New York, and Illinois, actually spent the most on policing. California spent
    the most on policing at $634.53 per resident. New York spent the third
    most at $539.92. And Illinois came in sixth place at $471.26. Eight out of
    10 states spending the most on policing are blue states, joined by red
    states Alaska and Florida. And those blue states aren’t just blue, they’re
    the bluest of states—California, New York, Maryland, Illinois, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Minnesota.

    In 2021, states on average spent $406.68 per resident on policing. Out of
    the 25 red states, 23 spent less than the national average. About half of
    blue states spent more or the same and half spent less than the national average. High crime states like Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama aren’t investing in policing at the same level as blue states. Mississippi came
    in the 44th spot out of 50, spending 34% less than the national average. Louisiana did a bit better, coming in 27th place spending 15% less than
    the national average. Alabama took the 39th spot, spending 29% less than
    the average. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home state of
    Kentucky came in dead last, spending 43% less than the national average.
    For perspective, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s home state of New
    York came in third place, spending 33% more on policing than the average
    state and 173% more than Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home state. And
    it’s not because there’s more crime in New York—quite the opposite.
    Kentucky’s 2021 homicide rate was double New York’s, 9.0 compared to 4.5.
    It’s ironic that Republicans accuse Democrats of defunding the police when their states are the ones spending the least on policing. Conclusion

    Violent crime and homicide rates both fell in 2022. Preliminary data for
    2023 shows that hopeful trend accelerating. But if you listened to
    Republicans, you would think crime is skyrocketing, specifically in blue
    states and cities. While murder rates have fallen, they’re still
    significantly higher in red states than blue states. There are several
    reasons for high crime rates—poverty, lax gun laws, a lack of social services—but voting for Democrats is not one of them.

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