• Re: Where Was Midget's Feigned Anger When...

    From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Aug 18 15:39:28 2025
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    On 2025-08-17 19:04, AlleyCat wrote:

    ... Biden LET the Russia/Ukraine War happen and failed to end it in the 1,061 days he was President?

    Biden Made Consequences Of Ukraine Invasion "Crystal Clear" In Call With Russia's Putin

    And war kept onnnnn going.
    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    ...and the war is still onnnnn going.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Aug 19 12:56:17 2025
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    On 2025-08-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could? What's wrong with being optimistic?

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been President. Why would he say that, if he didn't believe it to be
    true?

    Go ahead... rationalize. "Whah whah... Putin's lyyyinnnng!" Prove it.

    Still not Trump's fault the war started. That the war goes on, is still Biden's fault.

    Because Trump SAID he could stop it, makes him what, for not?

    Unlike you Drag Queen-loving left-wingers, he's an optimist. At least he's trying.

    Wanna know how many times Biden tried, and failed?


    It's all the left has to attack Trump with.
    They have no platform.
    No leadership.
    No solidarity like they used to. Fragmentation between extreme and moderate left.
    No viable candidate yet for 2028. Still time for that.

    And the best part is that no matter how hard the MSM tries to focus on attacking Trump
    it blows up in their faces. They are all spinning like tops at this point.



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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 19 10:46:42 2025
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    On 2025-08-18 22:39:28 +0000, Alan said:

    On 2025-08-17 19:04, AlleyCat wrote:

    ... Biden LET the Russia/Ukraine War happen and failed to end it in the
    1,061 days he was President?

    Biden Made Consequences Of Ukraine Invasion "Crystal Clear" In Call
    With Russia's Putin

    And war kept onnnnn going.
    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    ...and the war is still onnnnn going.

    Biden's consquences were sanctions, which he imposed to the tune of 500.

    Trump is limited to the same thing unless he wants to start World War III.

    His magnetic personality alone isn't going to cut it with Putin or Zelensky.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Aug 19 13:32:53 2025
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    On 2025-08-19 05:56, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could? What's wrong with being optimistic?

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been President. Why would he say that, if he didn't believe it to be
    true?

    Go ahead... rationalize. "Whah whah... Putin's lyyyinnnng!" Prove it.

    Still not Trump's fault the war started. That the war goes on, is still Biden's fault.

    Because Trump SAID he could stop it, makes him what, for not?

    Unlike you Drag Queen-loving left-wingers, he's an optimist. At least he's trying.

    Wanna know how many times Biden tried, and failed?


    It's all the left has to attack Trump with.

    "the left"?

    And you think attacking Trump for his lies is somehow unfair?

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 19 21:32:47 2025
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    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 05:56, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could? What's wrong with being optimistic?

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been President. Why would he say that, if he didn't believe it to be
    true?

    Go ahead... rationalize. "Whah whah... Putin's lyyyinnnng!" Prove it.

    Still not Trump's fault the war started. That the war goes on, is still Biden's fault.

    Because Trump SAID he could stop it, makes him what, for not?

    Unlike you Drag Queen-loving left-wingers, he's an optimist. At least he's trying.

    Wanna know how many times Biden tried, and failed?


    It's all the left has to attack Trump with.

    "the left"?

    And you think attacking Trump for his lies is somehow unfair?

    No.
    I think that attacking Trump for insignificant statements and holding him
    to them word for word is unfair especially when the left gave Biden a pass on all the idiocy he spewed for 4 years.
    You leftists have nothing else so you focus on minor semantic points.
    ie:I will reduce inflation on day one.

    Done with this topic.
    Move on because nobody but the left that have nothing to present care.



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    pothead

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    Then our choices make us."
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  • From Trump Is A Rapist@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Aug 19 14:44:14 2025
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    On 8/19/2025 2:32 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 05:56, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could? What's wrong with being optimistic?

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been President. Why would he say that, if he didn't believe it to be
    true?

    Go ahead... rationalize. "Whah whah... Putin's lyyyinnnng!" Prove it.

    Still not Trump's fault the war started. That the war goes on, is still Biden's fault.

    Because Trump SAID he could stop it, makes him what, for not?

    Unlike you Drag Queen-loving left-wingers, he's an optimist. At least he's trying.

    Wanna know how many times Biden tried, and failed?


    It's all the left has to attack Trump with.

    "the left"?

    And you think attacking Trump for his lies is somehow unfair?

    No.
    I think that attacking Trump for insignificant statements and holding him
    to them word for word is unfair

    He said literally *dozens* of times he was going to end the war in less than 24 hours. He's been in office for 210 days and the war is still raging unabated.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Aug 19 14:50:50 2025
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    On 2025-08-19 14:32, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 05:56, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could? What's wrong with being optimistic?

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been
    President. Why would he say that, if he didn't believe it to
    be true?

    Go ahead... rationalize. "Whah whah... Putin's lyyyinnnng!"
    Prove it.

    Still not Trump's fault the war started. That the war goes on,
    is still Biden's fault.

    Because Trump SAID he could stop it, makes him what, for not?

    Unlike you Drag Queen-loving left-wingers, he's an optimist.
    At least he's trying.

    Wanna know how many times Biden tried, and failed?


    It's all the left has to attack Trump with.

    "the left"?

    And you think attacking Trump for his lies is somehow unfair?

    No. I think that attacking Trump for insignificant statements and
    holding him to them word for word is unfair especially when the left
    gave Biden a pass on all the idiocy he spewed for 4 years. You
    leftists have nothing else so you focus on minor semantic points.
    ie:I will reduce inflation on day one.

    Whenever one of his statements becomes obviously a lie, you say it's insignificant.


    Done with this topic. Move on because nobody but the left that have
    nothing to present care.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 19 22:13:14 2025
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    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 14:32, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 05:56, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could? What's wrong with being optimistic?

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been
    President. Why would he say that, if he didn't believe it to
    be true?

    Go ahead... rationalize. "Whah whah... Putin's lyyyinnnng!"
    Prove it.

    Still not Trump's fault the war started. That the war goes on,
    is still Biden's fault.

    Because Trump SAID he could stop it, makes him what, for not?

    Unlike you Drag Queen-loving left-wingers, he's an optimist.
    At least he's trying.

    Wanna know how many times Biden tried, and failed?


    It's all the left has to attack Trump with.

    "the left"?

    And you think attacking Trump for his lies is somehow unfair?

    No. I think that attacking Trump for insignificant statements and
    holding him to them word for word is unfair especially when the left
    gave Biden a pass on all the idiocy he spewed for 4 years. You
    leftists have nothing else so you focus on minor semantic points.
    ie:I will reduce inflation on day one.

    Whenever one of his statements becomes obviously a lie, you say it's insignificant.

    Yawwn.
    Nope.
    Example: I will end the war in Ukraine on day one.
    Only you leftists take that literally.
    He began working on ending the war in Ukraine on day one and here we are today. If he fails to end the war, he owns it.

    Same for inflation day one.
    Prices day one.
    etc.

    You leftist lunatics are playing word for word instead of looking at what
    Trump is doing and trying to do.

    It's pathetic that this is all you have.
    You simply cannot name a single POTUS in history who has come out of the gate on day one working on fulfilling his promises.
    You can't and THAT is what is driving you left wing lunatics crazy.

    And I'll tell ya, it's fun to watch.
    Nicole Wallace on MSNBC is literally breaking down on the air.
    Get your popcorn and take a gander.






    Done with this topic. Move on because nobody but the left that have
    nothing to present care.


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    pothead

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    Then our choices make us."
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Aug 19 15:31:25 2025
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    On 2025-08-19 15:13, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 14:32, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 05:56, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could? What's wrong with being optimistic?

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been
    President. Why would he say that, if he didn't believe it to
    be true?

    Go ahead... rationalize. "Whah whah... Putin's lyyyinnnng!"
    Prove it.

    Still not Trump's fault the war started. That the war goes on,
    is still Biden's fault.

    Because Trump SAID he could stop it, makes him what, for not?

    Unlike you Drag Queen-loving left-wingers, he's an optimist.
    At least he's trying.

    Wanna know how many times Biden tried, and failed?


    It's all the left has to attack Trump with.

    "the left"?

    And you think attacking Trump for his lies is somehow unfair?

    No. I think that attacking Trump for insignificant statements and
    holding him to them word for word is unfair especially when the left
    gave Biden a pass on all the idiocy he spewed for 4 years. You
    leftists have nothing else so you focus on minor semantic points.
    ie:I will reduce inflation on day one.

    Whenever one of his statements becomes obviously a lie, you say it's
    insignificant.

    Yawwn.
    Nope.
    Example: I will end the war in Ukraine on day one.
    Only you leftists take that literally.
    He began working on ending the war in Ukraine on day one and here we are today.
    If he fails to end the war, he owns it.

    You think that the same people who post that he's new Messiah didn't
    believe it?


    Same for inflation day one.
    Prices day one.
    etc.

    You leftist lunatics are playing word for word instead of looking at what Trump is doing and trying to do.

    You mean taxing ordinary citizens in the form of tariffs?

    Or cutting Medicare while giving huge tax breaks to the rich?


    It's pathetic that this is all you have.
    You simply cannot name a single POTUS in history who has come out of the gate on day one working on fulfilling his promises.
    You can't and THAT is what is driving you left wing lunatics crazy.

    Is that what he's doing on all those weekends he spends playing golf?

    'Donald Trump has golfed 51 days out of 212 days since returning to
    office (24.1% of the presidency spent golfing).'

    <https://didtrumpgolftoday.com/>

    You do admit that he said he'd be far too busy to play golf, right?

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Trump Is A Rapist on Tue Aug 19 15:40:10 2025
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    Trump Is A Rapist wrote:
    I think that attacking Trump for insignificant statements and holding him
    to them word for word is unfair

    He said literally *dozens* of times he was going to end the war in less
    than 24 hours. He's been in office for 210 days and the war is still
    raging unabated.

    Épouvantable! Expect a person to keep their word? Integrity is a failed concept of those commie liberals.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 19 23:06:44 2025
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    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 15:13, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 14:32, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 05:56, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could? What's wrong with being optimistic?

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been
    President. Why would he say that, if he didn't believe it to
    be true?

    Go ahead... rationalize. "Whah whah... Putin's lyyyinnnng!"
    Prove it.

    Still not Trump's fault the war started. That the war goes on,
    is still Biden's fault.

    Because Trump SAID he could stop it, makes him what, for not?

    Unlike you Drag Queen-loving left-wingers, he's an optimist.
    At least he's trying.

    Wanna know how many times Biden tried, and failed?


    It's all the left has to attack Trump with.

    "the left"?

    And you think attacking Trump for his lies is somehow unfair?

    No. I think that attacking Trump for insignificant statements and
    holding him to them word for word is unfair especially when the left
    gave Biden a pass on all the idiocy he spewed for 4 years. You
    leftists have nothing else so you focus on minor semantic points.
    ie:I will reduce inflation on day one.

    Whenever one of his statements becomes obviously a lie, you say it's
    insignificant.

    Yawwn.
    Nope.
    Example: I will end the war in Ukraine on day one.
    Only you leftists take that literally.
    He began working on ending the war in Ukraine on day one and here we are today.
    If he fails to end the war, he owns it.

    You think that the same people who post that he's new Messiah didn't
    believe it?


    I speak for myself.
    I don't care what others think.
    Stop moving the goal posts.

    Both parties have their fair share of crazys.
    Here is one of yours. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/new-york-woman-was-dc-attending-far-left/



    Same for inflation day one.
    Prices day one.
    etc.

    You leftist lunatics are playing word for word instead of looking at what
    Trump is doing and trying to do.

    You mean taxing ordinary citizens in the form of tariffs?

    Tariffs are necessary in order to level set and return to fair trade.
    Up until this point, the US has been paying far higher tariffs than they
    have been charging imports.
    Wake up.

    Or cutting Medicare while giving huge tax breaks to the rich?

    Are you still pushing that ancient nugget?
    Tossing people, illegals, fraudsters and so forth off the system does not effect those legally entitled to the program.
    In fact, it allows for more funding to go to those who actually need the help.

    You sound like an NPR house organ.



    It's pathetic that this is all you have.
    You simply cannot name a single POTUS in history who has come out of the gate
    on day one working on fulfilling his promises.
    You can't and THAT is what is driving you left wing lunatics crazy.

    Is that what he's doing on all those weekends he spends playing golf?

    ROTFLMAO!
    You just proved my points.


    'Donald Trump has golfed 51 days out of 212 days since returning to
    office (24.1% of the presidency spent golfing).'

    <https://didtrumpgolftoday.com/>

    You do admit that he said he'd be far too busy to play golf, right?

    Again ROTFLMAO!!!

    You have nothing.
    And I could bring up the past POTUS lying on the beach weekend after weekend like a beached whale but there is no need to.

    As I have stated, you left wing lunatics have ZERO to campaign on other than attacking
    Trump for trivial crap that nobody but you lunatics cares about.

    Why not tell us all what your democrat party is doing / going to do?
    ROTFLMAO!
    I dare you.


    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Aug 19 16:13:29 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-19 16:06, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 15:13, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 14:32, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 05:56, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could? What's wrong with being optimistic?

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been >>>>>>>> President. Why would he say that, if he didn't believe it to
    be true?

    Go ahead... rationalize. "Whah whah... Putin's lyyyinnnng!"
    Prove it.

    Still not Trump's fault the war started. That the war goes on, >>>>>>>> is still Biden's fault.

    Because Trump SAID he could stop it, makes him what, for not?

    Unlike you Drag Queen-loving left-wingers, he's an optimist.
    At least he's trying.

    Wanna know how many times Biden tried, and failed?


    It's all the left has to attack Trump with.

    "the left"?

    And you think attacking Trump for his lies is somehow unfair?

    No. I think that attacking Trump for insignificant statements and
    holding him to them word for word is unfair especially when the left >>>>> gave Biden a pass on all the idiocy he spewed for 4 years. You
    leftists have nothing else so you focus on minor semantic points.
    ie:I will reduce inflation on day one.

    Whenever one of his statements becomes obviously a lie, you say it's
    insignificant.

    Yawwn.
    Nope.
    Example: I will end the war in Ukraine on day one.
    Only you leftists take that literally.
    He began working on ending the war in Ukraine on day one and here we are today.
    If he fails to end the war, he owns it.

    You think that the same people who post that he's new Messiah didn't
    believe it?


    I speak for myself.
    I don't care what others think.
    Stop moving the goal posts.

    Both parties have their fair share of crazys.
    Here is one of yours. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/new-york-woman-was-dc-attending-far-left/



    Same for inflation day one.
    Prices day one.
    etc.

    You leftist lunatics are playing word for word instead of looking at what >>> Trump is doing and trying to do.

    You mean taxing ordinary citizens in the form of tariffs?

    Tariffs are necessary in order to level set and return to fair trade.

    Against nations with which the US has no trade deficit, but rather a
    surplus?

    Up until this point, the US has been paying far higher tariffs than they
    have been charging imports.

    Cite some examples.

    Wake up.

    Or cutting Medicare while giving huge tax breaks to the rich?

    Are you still pushing that ancient nugget?
    Tossing people, illegals, fraudsters and so forth off the system does not effect those legally entitled to the program.

    That's not what is happening and if you don't know it, you're being
    wilfully blind.

    In fact, it allows for more funding to go to those who actually need the help.

    You sound like an NPR house organ.



    It's pathetic that this is all you have.
    You simply cannot name a single POTUS in history who has come out of the gate
    on day one working on fulfilling his promises.
    You can't and THAT is what is driving you left wing lunatics crazy.

    Is that what he's doing on all those weekends he spends playing golf?

    ROTFLMAO!
    You just proved my points.


    'Donald Trump has golfed 51 days out of 212 days since returning to
    office (24.1% of the presidency spent golfing).'

    <https://didtrumpgolftoday.com/>

    You do admit that he said he'd be far too busy to play golf, right?

    Again ROTFLMAO!!!

    You have nothing.
    And I could bring up the past POTUS lying on the beach weekend after weekend like a beached whale but there is no need to.

    Did he though? Show the numbers.


    As I have stated, you left wing lunatics have ZERO to campaign on other than attacking
    Trump for trivial crap that nobody but you lunatics cares about.

    Why not tell us all what your democrat party is doing / going to do? ROTFLMAO!
    I dare you.
    They're not my party, asshole.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Aug 19 17:35:07 2025
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    On 2025-08-19 17:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:55:37 -0700, Rudy the Runt Canoza says...

    He said literally *dozens* of times he was going to end the war in less than 24
    hours

    Prove it.

    Let's see those "dozens" of times in videos.
    You can Google it.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Aug 19 17:47:37 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-19 17:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:39:28 -0700, Alan says...

    And war kept onnnnn going.

    And Trump claimed he could end the war in 24 hours...

    Did you believe he could?
    You did:

    'Trump Says He Could End War Between Russia And Ukraine Within 24 Hours
    In Response To Drone Attack on Kremlin

    "I will end that war in one day," Trump said.

    In light of the recent drone attack on the Kremlin, former president
    Donald Trump stated on Wednesday that he would end the war in Ukraine in
    "one day" if he were in charge."'

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Aug 20 04:20:12 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 22:09:26 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:


    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 02:16:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...


    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:1083024$nbh$1@dont-email.me:



    Tariffs are necessary in order to level set and return to fair trade.
    Up until this point, the US has been paying far higher tariffs than
    they have been charging imports.

    We enjoy a trade SURPLUS with Brazil!

    Why is Trump slapping tariffs on them?

    To KEEP it that way.

    So . . . you penalize a country that sells you too much stuff. Then
    you penalize them for not selling you enough stuff?
    <snip>


    All around the world now
    Like a big bright cherry cloud
    Traveling from home to home
    TV sets and telephones
    Here it comes just like a storm
    Bathe in it and be reborn
    Time to let the world know
    Welcome madness, ...say hello...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ZENwvesAI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW0v-NuudQw
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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Aug 20 07:16:12 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 8/20/25 04:47, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 22:09:26 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:


    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 02:16:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...


    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:1083024$nbh$1@dont-email.me:



    Tariffs are necessary in order to level set and return to fair trade.
    Up until this point, the US has been paying far higher tariffs than
    they have been charging imports.

    We enjoy a trade SURPLUS with Brazil!

    Why is Trump slapping tariffs on them?

    To KEEP it that way.

    So . . . you penalize a country that sells you too much stuff. Then
    you penalize them for not selling you enough stuff?
    <snip>

    Still waiting for the justification for Trump's Tariff on Penguins...

    More seriously, why impose any tariff on goods which Americans want but
    which can't be commercially produced at scale in the USA? Because when
    there is no feasible "on-shoring" opportunity, it is purely a tax grab.


    -hh

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Aug 20 22:36:59 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-20, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 02:16:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...


    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:1083024$nbh$1@dont-email.me:



    Tariffs are necessary in order to level set and return to fair trade.
    Up until this point, the US has been paying far higher tariffs than
    they have been charging imports.

    We enjoy a trade SURPLUS with Brazil!

    Why is Trump slapping tariffs on them?

    To KEEP it that way.

    Are there no tariffs on US goods going into Brazil?

    Nope.

    What are the current tariffs imposed by Brazil on goods and products imported from the U.S.?

    As of the latest available information, Brazil imposes tariffs on various goods and products imported from the U.S. The specific
    tariff rates can vary depending on the type of product, but some examples include:

    1. Brazil imposes a 20% tariff on imported motor vehicles from the U.S.
    2. There is a 14% tariff on imported pharmaceutical products.
    3. Agricultural products such as soybeans can face tariffs of up to 8%.
    4. Machinery and equipment may be subject to tariffs ranging from 14% to 16%.

    It's essential for businesses and individuals engaging in trade between the U.S. and Brazil to be aware of these tariff rates to
    accurately assess the cost implications of importing goods into Brazil. Additionally, staying up-to-date with any changes in tariff
    rates is crucial for effective trade planning and compliance with import regulations.

    Brazil's tariff policy is largely determined by its membership in Mercosur, and it applies a Common External Tariff (CET) to most
    imports. However, in response to recent U.S. tariffs, Brazil has implemented new reciprocal measures.

    Based on the latest available information, here are the current tariffs imposed by Brazil on goods and products imported from the
    U.S.:

    Reciprocal Tariffs: Brazil's President has stated that the country will likely impose a 50% reciprocal tariff on U.S.-origin goods
    if the United States proceeds with its 50% tariffs. This is based on Brazil's Economic Reciprocity Act, which allows for matching
    retaliatory measures.

    Motor Vehicles: Tariffs on motor vehicles imported into Brazil, which were already high, could now be subject to this retaliatory
    rate. While the user-provided figure of 20% was a previous rate, the new, threatened reciprocal tariff would likely be much higher.

    Agricultural Products: The tariff on agricultural goods like soybeans can vary. While Brazil often imports very few soybeans from
    the U.S., as it is a major producer itself, tariffs on many agricultural goods, including beef and coffee, are now subject to the
    potential 50% reciprocal tariff as a retaliatory measure. The 8% tariff you mentioned is an outdated figure.

    Pharmaceuticals: The tariff on imported pharmaceutical products is generally around 14%, but this could also be impacted by the new
    reciprocal tariff regime.

    Machinery and Equipment: Tariffs on machinery and equipment can vary widely depending on the specific product. These products may
    also be subject to the new reciprocal tariff, which could increase the rate significantly from the 14-16% range you mentioned.

    In short, the overall tariff situation has become highly volatile due to the new trade dispute. Brazil's current tariffs on U.S.
    goods are in a state of flux, but they are generally expected to be much higher than historical norms due to a planned retaliatory
    50% reciprocal tariff.


    All good points Alley.
    I am for fair/free trade but when that is not a viable option then the playing field needs
    to be leveled.
    You tariff us, we will respond in like.

    This will all settle down but doing nothing like the last administration did is not acceptable.

    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Thu Aug 21 15:07:14 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 8/20/25 21:22, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 07:16:12 -0400, -hh says...

    So . . . you penalize a country that sells you too much stuff. Then
    you penalize them for not selling you enough stuff?
    <snip>

    Still waiting for the justification for Trump's Tariff on Penguins...

    This has already been explained to you, through this group. I can't help it if you missed it.

    Oh, I already know the explanation: the "geniuses" who originally put
    together the list used AI to generate countries, which used the domain
    registry list instead of actual real countries. That's how they got an uninhabited island.

    Now MAGAs did try to spin a defense by postulating that countries could
    dodge tariffs by passing goods through that remote destination. The
    problem with this narrative attempt is that it doesn't work, because
    tariffs are based on origin. Examples have already been noted on
    Vietnam exports which have high China content levels.


    This has already been explain to you and the others, pretending to be economically stupid. If you don't tariff those you have a trade surplus
    with, or tariff them with a very low number, or not at all, countries
    that ARE tariffed higher, will simply sell their goods to THOSE countries
    and go around paying America the tariffs.

    So is this word salad simply trying to own what I wrote above? Or is it
    trying to claim (incorrectly BTW) that trade imbalances are supposed to
    be equalized through tariffs?



    (I know it's the importers who actually pay the tariffs, but there's nothing to prevent them from countries, like China, from selling to the Penguin Islands
    and the importers buying from them)

    Except that this strategy doesn't work: trying to cheat the system via
    third party transshipment requires obtaining a fraudulent certificate of origin, by unloading/reloading cargo in that country. One can't do that
    with an uninhabited island which lacks a port.


    Remember the idiots who cried when Trump tariffed the Penguin Islands?

    "If you leave (any countries) off the list, countries that try to basically arbitrage America, will go through those (countries) to us." - Howard Lutnick

    Lutnick is wrong & lying to you because the world is already savvy to
    the ways to cheat; see above for a specific debunking.

    The legal method to change country of origin requires a significant
    enough value-added step to the goods called "substantial ransformation".
    Its a (significant enough) value-added step to the product, such as by
    smelting ore into that metal, making raw cotton into cloth, or to make
    cloth into clothing.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Aug 21 12:17:49 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-21 12:07, -hh wrote:
    On 8/20/25 21:22, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 07:16:12 -0400, -hh says...

    So . . . you penalize a country that sells you too much
    stuff. Then you penalize them for not selling you enough
    stuff? <snip>

    Still waiting for the justification for Trump's Tariff on
    Penguins...

    This has already been explained to you, through this group. I
    can't help it if you missed it.

    Oh, I already know the explanation: the "geniuses" who originally
    put together the list used AI to generate countries, which used the
    domain registry list instead of actual real countries. That's how
    they got an uninhabited island.

    Now MAGAs did try to spin a defense by postulating that countries
    could dodge tariffs by passing goods through that remote
    destination. The problem with this narrative attempt is that it
    doesn't work, because tariffs are based on origin. Examples have
    already been noted on Vietnam exports which have high China content
    levels.
    Don't forget their bonkers "formula" for calculating tariff rates.

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