• Has Hamas Surrendered ???

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 05:50:27 2025
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15013087/Hamas-accepts-peace-deal-hostage-return-Israeli-Netanyahu-ahead-Gaza-City-offensive.html

    Hamas accepts peace deal and hostage return proposal - as
    Israeli PM Netanyahu vows to go ahead with Gaza City offensive

    Hamas said Monday it has accepted a new proposal from Arab
    mediators for a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip and a hostage
    'return deal as the Israeli Prime Minister vows to go ahead
    with the offensive on Gaza City.

    The deal - presented by Egyptian and Qatari mediators - involves
    a 60-day pause in fighting and the release of around half of
    the 50 remaining Israeli hostages, 20 of whom are believed to
    be alive, in exchange for 150 Palestinian security prisoners.

    . . .

    Ummmmmm ...... SOUNDS like Hamas is freaked by the new
    Israeli offensive - and will promise 'peace' - but NEVER
    really deliver it alas.

    Hamas must DIE ... and anyone who supports/tolerates it.

    Nasty yes, but we're talking FANATICS here.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOlivei@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Aug 20 00:37:19 2025
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    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 11:27:50 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On this point we are agreed. HAMAS must die.

    Israel’s own top military spokesman, Admiral Hagari, once admitted
    publicly that Hamas could never be destroyed. Maybe that’s why he’s not their top military spokesman any more.

    Did you hear about those new goals for the Gaza war that Netanyahu
    announced recently? One of them is to destroy Hamas. Because it seems they haven’t really been working on that in the two years up to now.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 22:22:26 2025
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    On 8/19/25 8:37 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 11:27:50 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On this point we are agreed. HAMAS must die.

    Israel’s own top military spokesman, Admiral Hagari, once admitted
    publicly that Hamas could never be destroyed. Maybe that’s why he’s not their top military spokesman any more.

    Well, there are shades of "destroyed" :-)

    Strictly, the Crusaders and Knights Templar are
    not "destroyed" ... just not many adherents to
    The Cause anymore.

    Did you hear about those new goals for the Gaza war that Netanyahu
    announced recently? One of them is to destroy Hamas. Because it seems they haven’t really been working on that in the two years up to now.

    The IDS should blast and burn as many working Hamas
    people as possible.

    Maybe some of the kiddies will later take up The Cause,
    but that'll be then and there won't be as much force
    behind it if Israel does its needed work.

    Israel has pretty much shredded today's Hamas - and
    intimidated Iran from re-supplying what remains. This
    seems pretty good.

    In the bad old days, you'd totally genocide an enemy,
    MAYbe keep the little kids and sell them as slaves.
    THAT got rid of the enemies. Today we're much more
    nicey-nice about things ... but it's also less
    effective. Tactical/strategic adjustments must be made.

    Mean talk ? Well, it's always been a mean world. Far
    more has remained the same than has changed in the
    past 10,000 years.

    A partial/full occupation of Gaza, a diaspora ?
    May not be the best thing but there does not seem
    to BE a 'best thing' - just fix to fix to fix.
    Sometimes it's just like that - neither logic
    or gods can chart the 'better' path.

    According to legend, if troubled, Israel would bring
    out The Ark and kinda Holy Laser-Beam its opponents
    en-masse.

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