• Re: Trump - Posted Bail, Now Bans Bail

    From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri Aug 29 07:21:38 2025
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    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:108qoah$1m0am$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-08-28, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    <brevsnip>

    Has the National Guard ventured into gangland yet? Or are they
    still patrolling common tourist sites?

    Base upon the number arrests, the crime stats they seem to be doing
    quite well. Even Bowser agrees.

    <https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/inside-trumps-dc-crackdown-swarms-agents-arrests-minor-offenses-2025-08-27/>

    Inside Trump's DC crackdown: Swarms of agents and arrests for
    minor offenses

    One night last week, police officers in Washington stopped a
    man carrying a designer handbag after spotting a small, clear
    plastic bag poking out of it, which they suspected might
    contain marijuana.

    It was the kind of encounter that is a staple of local police
    work, only this time the officers who asked to look inside the
    bag were accompanied by agents from five separate federal law
    enforcement agencies, including the FBI and the Secret
    Service, according to records filed in a local court.

    . . .

    While the two-week effort has turned up guns and drugs,
    records from Washington’s Superior Court show it has also
    included federal agents converging in large numbers on
    low-level crimes such as marijuana use and public alcohol
    consumption, cases that have seldom been a priority for U.S.
    law enforcement agencies tasked with targeting drug
    traffickers and gunrunners.

    <https://www.axios.com/2025/08/27/bowser-trump-dc-takeover-masked-ice-agents>

    D.C. mayor: "Masked ICE agents" and out-of-town National Guard
    are ineffective

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/bowser-trump-police-takeover-lower-dc-crime-national-guard-ice-rcna227582>

    Mayor Muriel Bowser says Trump's surge of federal law
    enforcement has lowered crime in D.C.

    The Democratic mayor also said the presence of masked ICE
    agents and National Guard members “is not working.”

    So which is it? Is the overwhelming surge in personnel worth it?

    If calling out the National Guard is so effective why didn't
    Trump do in on Jan 6?

    Trump watched Jan 6 US Capitol riot unfold
    on TV, ignored pleas to call for peace
    July 22, 2022

    --
    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri Aug 29 07:33:56 2025
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    Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <snip>

    By the way...

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/politics/trump-property-crime-crackdown.html>

    Sept. 30 2024

    Trump Says ‘One Really Violent Day’ Would End Property Crime

    The remarks were the latest example of his praise for
    executive power and force in imposing order, this time over
    crimes the F.B.I. said last week were falling.`

    Former President Donald J. Trump mused on Sunday about “one
    really violent day” as an answer to what he has described as a
    plague of unchecked property crime in American cities.

    “One rough hour — and I mean real rough,” Mr. Trump said. “The
    word will get out and it will end immediately.”

    The remarks, at a campaign rally in Erie, Pa., were the latest
    variation on a longtime theme for Mr. Trump: An explicit
    embrace of executive power and police force in the interest of
    imposing order, or suspending the rule of law to address
    various societal ills.

    He has in the past urged law enforcement to be rougher when
    making arrests, called for the summary execution of
    shoplifters, and said he would not be a dictator “except for
    Day 1.”


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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri Aug 29 07:58:47 2025
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    "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in message news:108s2g2$1uis5$3@dont-email.me...
    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:108qoah$1m0am$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-08-28, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    <brevsnip>

    Has the National Guard ventured into gangland yet? Or are they
    still patrolling common tourist sites?

    Base upon the number arrests, the crime stats they seem to be doing
    quite well. Even Bowser agrees.


    <https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/inside-trumps-dc-crackdown-swarms-agents-arrests-minor-offenses-2025-08-27/>

    Inside Trump's DC crackdown: Swarms of agents and arrests for
    minor offenses

    OMG.. Are you serious? Trump is actually enforcing the law?

    Yet, you have a problem with that?

    In a nut shell, that is the problem with liberals. they want all these
    laws...
    they just don't want them to actually apply unless and until they can use
    them against their political enemies.

    Because last time I looked the drug laws weren't "minor crimes" the least of them involves jail time.

    Sounds serious to me.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri Aug 29 08:05:15 2025
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    "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in message news:108s375$1v3p6$1@dont-email.me...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <snip>

    By the way...


    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/politics/trump-property-crime-crackdown.html>

    Sept. 30 2024

    Trump Says ‘One Really Violent Day’ Would End Property Crime

    The remarks were the latest example of his praise for
    executive power and force in imposing order, this time over
    crimes the F.B.I. said last week were falling.`

    Well he has a point. The liberal policy of just letting them steal whatever they want certainly hasn't reduced crime. If anything it's given people the power to steal basically at will while their victims can do nothing about
    it. Did it reduce such occurrences of theft.. or compounded by basically
    giving people a license to steal?

    Yea, I can see where liberals might have an issue with the rule of law and actually applying and enforcing the law.

    If you're so opposed to it.. then get with your buddies and introduce legislation decriminalizing such crimes. Then I can legally rip off Walmart
    and drive under the influence as well.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Aug 29 17:48:23 2025
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    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:108sk4f$23n4f$1@dont-email.me:



    "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in message news:108s2g2$1uis5$3@dont-email.me...
    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:108qoah$1m0am$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-08-28, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    <brevsnip>

    Has the National Guard ventured into gangland yet? Or are they
    still patrolling common tourist sites?

    Base upon the number arrests, the crime stats they seem to be doing
    quite well. Even Bowser agrees.


    <https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/inside-trumps-dc-crackdown-s
    warms-agents-arrests-minor-offenses-2025-08-27/>

    Inside Trump's DC crackdown: Swarms of agents and arrests for
    minor offenses

    OMG.. Are you serious? Trump is actually enforcing the law?

    Yet, you have a problem with that?


    Where is the Trump law enforment
    for the Jan 6 felons?



    In a nut shell, that is the problem with liberals. they want all these laws...
    they just don't want them to actually apply unless and until they can
    use them against their political enemies.



    They just need to break into the
    Capitol and smear their shit on the walls,
    THEN they can only of "American patiriot"
    pins and a pardon to go with it.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Aug 29 18:18:35 2025
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    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:108sk4i$23n4f$2@dont-email.me:



    "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in message news:108s375$1v3p6$1@dont-email.me...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <snip>

    By the way...


    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/politics/trump-property-crime-c
    rackdown.html>

    Sept. 30 2024

    Trump Says ‘One Really Violent Day’ Would End Property Crime

    The remarks were the latest example of his praise for
    executive power and force in imposing order, this time over
    crimes the F.B.I. said last week were falling.`

    Well he has a point. The liberal policy of just letting them steal
    whatever they want


    Like thd 73 boxes of government
    documents Trump STOLE from the White
    House?




    certainly hasn't reduced crime. If anything it's
    given people the power to steal basically at will while their victims
    can do nothing about it. Did it reduce such occurrences of theft.. or compounded by basically giving people a license to steal?


    How mucu of what the Jan 6 crowd
    stole from the Capitol ever got recovered?

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Aug 30 09:22:19 2025
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    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 07:21:38 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    So which is it? Is the overwhelming surge in personnel worth it?

    If I were a Washingtonian who'd ever been carjacked, I'd probably say,
    "yes."

    Confirmation bias! :-D

    Same if shot by a gun, eh? And yet America remains gun-soaked.

    --
    The cart has no place where a fifth wheel could be used.
    -- Herbert von Fritzlar

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Aug 30 14:11:57 2025
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    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:1285bk94hgtu33qjstj3ufcq4v2ri0nn2g@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 07:33:56 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    One rough hour and I mean real rough, Mr. Trump said. The
    word will get out and it will end immediately.

    He also said he'd end the Ukraine war in 24 hours.



    Remember how Trump told police
    to "rough'em up" when making arrests?

    Funny the MAGAs weren't echoing
    that when Trump was being arrested......





    Trump tells cops they should rough people
    up more during arrests. "Please, dont be
    too nice," he said, to laughter from the crowd.
    Jul 28, 2017

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/28/16059536/trump-cops- speech-gang-violence-long-island

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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 1 11:13:20 2025
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    On 29 Aug 2025, jon ball posted some
    news:mIlsQ.150573$gVwb.15746@fx48.iad:

    [Nazi

    Most Democrats are.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Tue Sep 2 12:10:57 2025
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    "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in message news:108utuc$2jtcg$5@dont-email.me...
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 07:21:38 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    So which is it? Is the overwhelming surge in personnel worth it?

    If I were a Washingtonian who'd ever been carjacked, I'd probably say,
    "yes."

    Confirmation bias! :-D

    Same if shot by a gun, eh? And yet America remains gun-soaked.

    Yep, most people who shoot others with a gun are denied bail.

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