• Illinois governer rebuffs federal intervention to prevent Chicago murde

    From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 1 10:05:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
    wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Sep 1 10:53:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent manslaughter?

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>

    If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
    people to where they will do the most good?

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 1 19:03:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
    wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent manslaughter?

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>

    If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
    people to where they will do the most good?

    The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing
    from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
    They are both disgusting.

    They have a serious problem in Chicago.
    Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.
    Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.

    And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
    crime rates" and so forth.

    Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
    seemingly every weekend.

    Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
    their own communities?
    It makes no sense at all.

    This is why the democrat party is cratering.

    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 1 19:05:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
    wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    And Italy has some fine wine and Vermont has some fine cheese.
    Your point?



    --
    pothead

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    Then our choices make us."
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  • From Ken@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Sep 1 14:39:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    pothead wrote:
    On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
    wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
    manslaughter?

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate> >>
    If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
    people to where they will do the most good?

    The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
    They are both disgusting.

    They have a serious problem in Chicago.
    Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.
    Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.

    And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
    crime rates" and so forth.

    Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
    seemingly every weekend.

    Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
    their own communities?
    It makes no sense at all.

    This is why the democrat party is cratering.


    This issue, as well as just about every other issue Trump addresses, is categorically opposed by the Dems. It is not whether his proposal would improve a situation, but *who* it came from. It is called TDS!! Trump
    could erase the national debt, and they would blame him for getting rid
    of government bonds and the interest they pay. If everything is so rosy
    in the large cities, why are so many leaving them for others, or other
    states??

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Sep 1 16:10:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On 2025-09-01 15:03, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
    wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
    manslaughter?

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate> >>
    If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
    people to where they will do the most good?

    The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
    They are both disgusting.

    The federal government under Donald Trump IS a threat to democracy.


    They have a serious problem in Chicago.
    Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.

    Cite, please!

    Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.

    And yet less crime than many, many other US cities.


    And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
    crime rates" and so forth.

    Yes. Because that's valid.

    If Trump is actually trying to address the problem of crime (he's not),
    then why isn't he starting where crime is worst?


    Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
    seemingly every weekend.

    Tell it to the families where it's happening more often that aren't
    getting this "support".


    Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
    their own communities?
    It makes no sense at all.

    This is why the democrat party is cratering.
    It puzzles me why you can't see the danger here.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Ken on Mon Sep 1 20:11:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On 2025-09-01, Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote:
    pothead wrote:
    On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims >>>> wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
    manslaughter?

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate> >>>
    If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
    people to where they will do the most good?

    The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing
    from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
    They are both disgusting.

    They have a serious problem in Chicago.
    Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.
    Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.

    And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
    crime rates" and so forth.

    Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
    seemingly every weekend.

    Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
    their own communities?
    It makes no sense at all.

    This is why the democrat party is cratering.


    This issue, as well as just about every other issue Trump addresses, is categorically opposed by the Dems. It is not whether his proposal would improve a situation, but *who* it came from. It is called TDS!! Trump
    could erase the national debt, and they would blame him for getting rid
    of government bonds and the interest they pay. If everything is so rosy
    in the large cities, why are so many leaving them for others, or other states??

    +1

    It's the only logical explanation.
    The left hates everything Trump and doesn't give a hoot about the people.

    The good news is that because of these type of policies the democrat/left
    are cratering and hemorrhaging voters and supporters.
    They need to collectively find a clinic specialing in TDS deprogramming and enroll in the intense therapy course.

    Of course they could also hit the pavement and actually listen to what their constituents want.


    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Sep 1 16:11:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On 2025-09-01 15:05, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
    wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    And Italy has some fine wine and Vermont has some fine cheese.
    Your point?
    My point is that if he's truly trying to do the most for the people of
    the United States, why isn't he starting off where the problem is worst?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Sep 2 10:39:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 10:53:14 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
    wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent >manslaughter?

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>

    If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
    people to where they will do the most good?


    It's certainly something I wouldn't object to. Now please explain why
    you have no problem with Chicago's massive murder problem, the
    governor doing nothing about it and actively rebelling against an
    offer of help.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to pothead@snakebite.com on Tue Sep 2 10:40:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 19:03:47 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
    wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
    manslaughter?

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>

    If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
    people to where they will do the most good?

    The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing >from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
    They are both disgusting.

    It seems they actually *want* people dead.


    They have a serious problem in Chicago.
    Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.
    Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.

    And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
    crime rates" and so forth.

    Yep. Diversions all.


    Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
    seemingly every weekend.

    Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
    their own communities?
    It makes no sense at all.


    The politicians want their communities to be hellholes. It's the only
    possible answer.

    This is why the democrat party is cratering.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Sep 2 14:51:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On 2025-09-02, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 10:53:14 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
    wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent >>manslaughter?

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>

    If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending >>people to where they will do the most good?


    It's certainly something I wouldn't object to. Now please explain why
    you have no problem with Chicago's massive murder problem, the
    governor doing nothing about it and actively rebelling against an
    offer of help.

    Bingo.

    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Sep 2 10:47:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 16:10:50 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-09-01 15:03, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?

    At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
    Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims >>>> wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
    threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
    over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
    Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
    media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
    Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

    Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
    earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
    D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
    unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
    un-American."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744

    Yeah cause crime and murder is better....


    So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
    that have higher rates of violent crime?

    Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
    manslaughter?

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate> >>>
    If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
    people to where they will do the most good?

    The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing
    from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
    They are both disgusting.

    The federal government under Donald Trump IS a threat to democracy.


    Laughter!

    As opposed to the previous administration that did everything they
    could to prosecute Trump for absolutely nothing.


    They have a serious problem in Chicago.
    Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.

    Cite, please!


    Really?

    "One-fifth of Illinois adults are functionally illiterate, according
    to the National Center for Education Statistics. That means they
    cannot understand the meaning of sentences, locate information on
    pages or complete simple forms, all of which would affect their
    abilities to hold many jobs.

    In Cook County, 25% of adults are functionally illiterate."

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/1-in-5-illinois-adults-is-illiterate-but-its-1-in-4-in-cook-county/

    " Chicago Public Schools third- through eighth-grade state test scores increased in 2024, with reading finally surpassing 2019 levels. But
    for Chicago’s 11th grade students, both reading and math remained
    below pre-pandemic levels.

    State test scores are in for Chicago Public Schools, and fewer than
    1-in-3 students could read and fewer than 1-in-5 do math at their
    elementary grade level in 2024.

    It was worse for the district’s 11th graders: fewer than 1 in 4 could
    read and math scores dropped nearly a percentage point from 2023.

    The Illinois Report Card released Oct. 30 showed 30.5% of CPS students
    in third through eighth grade read at grade level in 2024 compared to
    25.9% the previous school year. Math proficiency increased to 18.3% in
    2024 from 17.5% in 2023.

    Among Chicago’s 11th graders, only 22.4% could read at grade level in
    2024 and 18.6% performed math proficiently, up just one-tenth of a
    percentage point in reading since the previous school year and down
    nearly one percentage point in math. Both reading and math proficiency
    for Chicago 11th graders remained below 2019 levels."

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/fewer-than-1-in-3-chicago-public-schools-students-read-at-grade-level/

    And no it's not good news as the authors try to portray.



    Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.

    And yet less crime than many, many other US cities.

    So?



    And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
    crime rates" and so forth.

    Yes. Because that's valid.

    No it isn't.


    If Trump is actually trying to address the problem of crime (he's not),
    then why isn't he starting where crime is worst?

    If you're going after a huge problem, why wouldn't you start with the
    most notorious areas?




    Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
    seemingly every weekend.

    Tell it to the families where it's happening more often that aren't
    getting this "support".

    Somehow in your mind that is an answer.
    It's not.



    Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
    their own communities?
    It makes no sense at all.

    This is why the democrat party is cratering.
    It puzzles me why you can't see the danger here.

    Here's an easy solution: Tell the damn governor to do something so
    that these steps wouldn't be necessary.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Sep 2 11:08:44 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    Alan wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 2025-09-01 15:03, pothead wrote:

    <shit etc. snip>

    They have a serious problem in Chicago.

    AI Overview

    Chicago is not ranked among the cities with the highest crime
    rates in 2025, with recent FBI data showing it ranking 29th
    among cities with at least 500,000 residents, according to The
    Hill. In fact, Chicago has experienced historic reductions in
    violent crime in the first half of 2025, with homicides down
    significantly compared to previous years.

    It puzzles me why you can't see the danger here.

    Crockpot's pushing the false narrative of Trump and his
    administration.

    --
    squatcho, n.:
    The button at the top of a baseball cap.
    -- "Sniglets", Rich Hall & Friends

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  • From Marmalade King@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Tue Sep 2 15:44:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    Alan wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 2025-09-01 15:03, pothead wrote:

    <shit etc. snip>

    They have a serious problem in Chicago.

    AI Overview

    Chicago is not ranked among the cities with the highest crime
    rates in 2025, with recent FBI data showing it ranking 29th
    among cities with at least 500,000 residents, according to The
    Hill. In fact, Chicago has experienced historic reductions in
    violent crime in the first half of 2025, with homicides down
    significantly compared to previous years.

    It puzzles me why you can't see the danger here.

    Crockpot's pushing the false narrative of Trump and his
    administration.


    It always helps to be a gullible clown when supporting "Trump-Epstein's
    police state agenda"

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  • From Max Collins@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Sep 3 03:55:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.liberalism, rec.arts.tv
    XPost: alt.atheism

    NoBody wrote:

    Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?


    I want to know when Trump's going to grow a pair of balls, send the marines into the red states and and start shooting all the white skinned, white
    trash, drug addicted Trump voters who are setting yearly records murdering their fellow Trump supporters. Why just the other day a Trump supporting
    gun owner shot an 11 year-old white boy in the back, killing him.


    A dead rightist may still be the best kind of rightist but Trump needs to buckle up and protect the lives of the America hating, pro-pedophile
    dirtbags who elected him or his party is toast.


    I guess it won't matter by next year anyway because the Repubs are going to
    be shown the door and Trump, who turns 80 and is in severly ill health, is expected to die.


    Rightist Shithole Memphis, The Second-biggest City In The Red State Of Tennessee, Tops The List For Crime With 2,501 Violent Crimes Per 100,000 People, According To Data From The FBI.

    Here are cities with the highest crime rates


    Below are the 10 big cities with the highest rate of crime per 100,000
    people, based on FBI data from 2024 on murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault.
    Memphis, Tenn.

    Memphis, the second-biggest city in the red state of Tennessee, tops the
    list with 2,501 violent crimes per 100,000 people, according to data from
    the FBI.

    The city has recorded 145 murder victims in the first eight months of the
    year. Last year, it experienced 40.6 homicides per 100,000, placing it
    fourth among cities with at least 100,000 residents.


    Instead of accepting the offer, Trump told Moore to focus on driving down
    the crime rate, indicating he wouldnt join him for a walk before that.

    As of July 1, the city had recorded 68 homicides this year. Police said
    that reflected a 22 percent year-over-year decrease in homicides and a 19 percent decrease in nonfatal shootings.
    Kansas City, Mo.

    Kansas City, Mo. , saw 1,547 violent offenses per 100,000 people in 2024.
    Last year, the city saw a 12 percent increase in nonfatal shootings and
    tallied 144 homicide cases.

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